Re: [CinCVS] my cinelerra involvement

2007-04-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
Hi,

> I've just finished writing a patch to add full HDV read support to
> dvgrab and am about to send that off to their mailing list, so my next
> project was going to be working some more on cinelerra, since I use it
> exclusively for video editing...so, I'll be glad to help as much as I
> can.  Probably not at a super fast pace, but I can provide some help.
> I was planning next on adding direct support for reading files with
> ffmpeg (libavcodec/libavformat).


this sounds very interesting. I'll be glad to help on that also.

there are a few other things I'd like to improve :
- libquicktime support (not as easy as it seems to be imho)
- ffmpeg swscale support (i had submitted the patches)
- perhaps using system toolame rather than rebuilding it
- cinelerra contains some executables stacks, I had tracked it to the
way images are packed in the executable in guicast but didn't fix them
- cinelerra contains text relocations on x86 when compiled with mmx in
libmpeg3 iirc, I have some patches against libmpeg3 asm, I could
contact the author to see if he wants this to be integrated here (of
course removing the need for textrels usually makes the asm slower so it
is only acceptable with a "notextrel" option)


Anyway, since cinelerra is my favorite soft for video editing I'd like
to help you by contributing a bit more, perhaps starting by trying to
track the bugs you mentioned. The only problem being I don't have as
much time as I'd like to to play with video, but that's life ;)

Regards,

Alexis


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Re: [CinCVS] my cinelerra involvement

2007-04-18 Thread Aaron Newcomb

That's great Dan! I was just reading some of your posts over on
kino-dev. I use dvgrab to capture my footage via live stream from my
camera, and I am thinking of upgrading to an HD camera so this is
great news. I know that Dan Dennedy mentioned this capability on The
Linux Link Tech Show a few weeks ago. Perhaps your patch was what he
was talking about. Anyway, I am glad to see that you are thinking of
helping with Cinelerra!!

On 4/18/07, Dan Streetman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've just finished writing a patch to add full HDV read support to
dvgrab and am about to send that off to their mailing list, so my next
project was going to be working some more on cinelerra, since I use it
exclusively for video editing...so, I'll be glad to help as much as I
can.  Probably not at a super fast pace, but I can provide some help.
I was planning next on adding direct support for reading files with
ffmpeg (libavcodec/libavformat).




--
Thanks,
Aaron Newcomb
http://www.thesourceshow.org
http://www.opennewsshow.org

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Re: [CinCVS] my cinelerra involvement

2007-04-18 Thread Dan Streetman

I've just finished writing a patch to add full HDV read support to
dvgrab and am about to send that off to their mailing list, so my next
project was going to be working some more on cinelerra, since I use it
exclusively for video editing...so, I'll be glad to help as much as I
can.  Probably not at a super fast pace, but I can provide some help.
I was planning next on adding direct support for reading files with
ffmpeg (libavcodec/libavformat).

On 4/16/07, Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Lately i had almost no time to hack on cinelerra and it doesn't seem
that situation will improve in forseeable future.

Therefore, I'd like to point out that cinelerra is in need of new
manpower to keep it in good condition. Currently there are at least a
few grave bugs that have to be fixed, but are quite hard to track down
(freezing when moving edits when having multiple tracks being one of
them)

I believe we can be a bit more liberal with svn access, since we really
have a big problem at hand...

so please, if you have any time to work on cinelerra, stand up...

bye
andraz


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Re: [CinCVS] my cinelerra involvement

2007-04-17 Thread Christian Thaeter
Andraž Tori wrote:
> Lately i had almost no time to hack on cinelerra and it doesn't seem
> that situation will improve in forseeable future.
> 
> Therefore, I'd like to point out that cinelerra is in need of new
> manpower to keep it in good condition. Currently there are at least a
> few grave bugs that have to be fixed, but are quite hard to track down
> (freezing when moving edits when having multiple tracks being one of
> them)
I'm back from vacation, working on my cinelerra branch now. Currently I
rather care more for infrastructure enhancements and cleanup than
outstanding bugfixes but I believe that this will pave the road to
find/fix bugs much easier in future (at least for me).
> 
> I believe we can be a bit more liberal with svn access, since we really
> have a big problem at hand... 
I think so far the git way worked well, looking at the repositories
which are mirrored here, there are people actively working on cinelerra
on their git branches. For me hosting git mirrors from pipapo.org turned
out to be less problematic than I expected (bandwidth/traffic/support
wise). Imo it would be nice to bless the git repos more official, maybe
even phase out SVN and turn over to git entirely. This gives much more
freedom in workflow since anyone can hack in his own branches. We could
pick up Linux kernel like policies and add 'Signed-off' comments to
reviewed commits etc.

Some ideas/notes:
 - Would it be possible to run a git mirror service on
   cvs.cinelerra.org?
 - Anyone else having a server which can offer git mirroring?
 - There is repo.or.cz which offers free mirroring too.
 - a anonymous (untrusted) pushable git repo on pipapo.org
   (how about such on cinelerra.org?)
 - I would offer some help when setting up git things on cinelerra.org
 - How about a monthly developer meeting on IRC, 1 hour where we can
discuss who works on what, where progress is made, who needs help with
something and so on. Exact time&date acknowledged on the mailinglist,
Someone makes a protocol about the outcome and puts it online and so on?
 - when will then entire cinelerra.org site be a wiki? :)

Christian

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Re: [CinCVS] my cinelerra involvement

2007-04-16 Thread flavio


(freezing when moving edits when having multiple tracks being one of
them)



andraz, just for you to have a small feedback on this, since i've been
pretty much working exclusively with cinelerra and depend on it to be very
stable, i've been using a rafael2k debian-stable package for version v2.0,
which is the most stable release i've seen. especially due to what you
mention above - it doesn't happen there. here in brazil, even though i do
have an hdv camera, about 95% of everything being done here is still dv, so
v2.0 is already very fine to do about anything (usually, people get
surprised when I say that, but also usually the don't edit videos that last
longer than 5min).

i said that to say that i don't program (been trying to help on other
fronts), so what i'm going to say is based simply on a 'feeling': from what
i got of cinelerra the 2.1 versions I used, it seems that every playback is
being done by openGL, no matter what option you choose on preferences (X11,
XV, etc). even though we had many machines on hand to test this when I was
working closer to the estudiolivre.org 's government-funded branch, all
those machines' video cards did not support openGL 2.0. so editing videos
there (on 2.1) became unthinkable, because we couldn't work around this
freezing issue - playback then would be very very slow (on DV videos, we
only worked with DV there). we were installing jahshaka on those machines as
well and jahshaka would present the very same problem - very slow playback
for pretty much everything. unless, of course, if this freezing problem
would happen even in case you chose X11-XV, which then would mean it was a
more general issue than just involving openGL - as i said, this is just a
feeling I have, based on some months watching this happening and trying to
figure what that could be; but it was interesting to see jahshaka and
cinelerra presenting the same problem. my (personal) video card now supports
opengl 2.0 so i'll update the cv-cinelerra and jahshaka on my
debian-unstable partition as soon as i have time to see if i can give any
more feedback on this.