Re: can't ping the Sc0 interface ip address [7:58383]

2002-12-01 Thread guy shurki
try to check layr 1 and 2 of the physical port 3/1, and the vlans that they
are in, check the show int 3/1 command, and please post it.

guy


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Passed Cisco IP Telephony [7:58386]

2002-12-01 Thread THANGAVEL VISHNUKUMAR MUDALIAR
Hi Group,

Today I passed the Cisco IP Telephony Exam.I used the cisco Press book by
David Lovell and I had a bad experience with this book.The cover page of the
book is misleading as it says prepare for IP telephony Certification with
this
book.
To my experience this book is not sufficient for passing the exam as it does
not cover all the topics probed in the exam.
There is PDF on IP telephony design guide on cisco's web site,I feel the book
is a copy of that.The design guide has more than what is covered in this
book.I feel spending $60 on this book is not worth as same information you
can
find on
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/network/.

About the exam,It has 70 questions, passing score is 699 and have 2 hrs to
answer them.I used cisco site extensively for preparing for this exam.


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Re: can't ping the Sc0 interface ip address [7:58383]

2002-12-01 Thread Larry Letterman
are both sc0 interfaces in the same vlan...
is the trunk carrying all the vlans ?


Kevin GU wrote:

>Hi,
>I have a C4006 in the Local LAN already, all the while it is working fine. I
>need more ports for user device, so add one more c5009 switch.
>I've connected a C5009 and a C4006 switches with a cross cable on port 3/1.
>Set ip address 53.245.35.6/24 for C4006's Sc0 interface. Set ip address
>53.245.35.3/24 for C5009's Sc0 interface. But I can't ping each other. I set
>the port to trunk. so the users connected to C5009 are able to access the
>whole network. But I still can't ping the Sc0 management IP address.
>Any one can help me?




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640-604 Switching [7:58384]

2002-12-01 Thread bob bob
Anyone interested on trading study questions .. I have a new pdf file for
routing...  looking for a pdf for switching


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can't ping the Sc0 interface ip address [7:58383]

2002-12-01 Thread Kevin GU
Hi,
I have a C4006 in the Local LAN already, all the while it is working fine. I
need more ports for user device, so add one more c5009 switch.
I've connected a C5009 and a C4006 switches with a cross cable on port 3/1.
Set ip address 53.245.35.6/24 for C4006's Sc0 interface. Set ip address
53.245.35.3/24 for C5009's Sc0 interface. But I can't ping each other. I set
the port to trunk. so the users connected to C5009 are able to access the
whole network. But I still can't ping the Sc0 management IP address.
Any one can help me? 


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RE: Support Exam [7:58366]

2002-12-01 Thread John McCartney
Passing score is 776, I failed by 6 points and taking it in 2 weeks again.
Look at cisco outline and know in depth what output of commands look like
and tell you...know IP cmds/diags inside/out.
Good luck!


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Re: CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]

2002-12-01 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi
Yeah I agree, because even cisco's website is not good about it. This will 
give your book an edge plus a great resource on the job and CCIE Security Lab.
Thanks,
Shahid
 Richard Deal  wrote:Shahid,

Unlike the CiscoPress book which omits this very important configuration
component, I've spent some time in by book about dealing with multiple
interfaces as it relates to address translation AND filtering, like ACLs and
conduits. Probably one of the most difficult configuration tasks on a PIX is
dealing with a PIX with muliple interfaces, especially when it comes to
address translation. So I definitely spent some time talking about these
topics and how to configure your PIX in this situation. Hope this helps. If
you have any other questions, don't hesitate to holler.

Cheers!
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Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch Configuration
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Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive Cisco
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> Hey Richard,
> I am about to purchase ur book but just one quick question: Did u cover
any
> details regarding multiple interfaces configuration examples like 0,100,99
> and 70. Thanks
> Shahid
> Richard Deal wrote:Mark,
>
> Actually, Mark, I'm one step ahead of you :-). My PIX book came out at the
> end of October from McGraw-Hill/Osborne. I wrote it as a non-certification
> book, but it covers everything you'd see on the new PIX exam. You can
check
> out a free chapter on Osborne's web site:
> http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/osborne/0072225238.html (watch the wrap!).
>
> I also have some extra stuff on my web site that I couldn't fit in the
book
> because of page constraints. Just vist my home page below.
>
> Cheers!
> --
>
> Richard A. Deal
>
> Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
>
> Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP Remote Access
> Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch
Configuration
> Exam Cram
>
> Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive
Cisco
> exams on the market.
>
>
>
> ""Mark Smith"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > So when are you going to write one, Rich?
> > We're waiting. :)
> >
> >
> > Quoting Richard Deal :
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > The CSS1 exams are valid until the end of January,
> > > upon which you must take
> > > the new exams. CiscoPress doesn't have any books out
> > > yet on the new tests.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > --
> > >
> > > Richard A. Deal
> > >
> > > Visit my home page at
> > > http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
> > >
> > > Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!,
> > > CCNP Remote Access
> > > Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco
> > > LAN Switch Configuration
> > > Exam Cram
> > >
> > > Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the
> > > most comprehensive Cisco
> > > exams on the market.
> > >
> > >
> > > ""John Cianfarani"" wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Can we still write CSS1 or has it been replaced with
> > > the CCSP?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:30 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]
> > > >
> > > > I havent take the new CSI exam, but for CSS1 i
> > > suggest you do the
> > > > following
> > > > : MCNS - PIX - VPN - IDS, and if you already pass
> > > all of them, i dont
> > > > think
> > > > you would have problems with CSI.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ardi
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Qos wred !? [7:58243]

2002-12-01 Thread Jeff Specoli
can you please explain this:

random-detect precedence 5 200 1000 100 where the should bee every 100
packet.

"where the should be every 100 packet"  the what?

in your example, 200 is the min, 1000 is the max and 100 is the
exceed-threshold meaning that 1 packet out of 100 will be dropped if the
avergage queue size is greater than 1000?  Am I understanding this correctly?

Thanks,


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RE: Software for Statistical Profiling [7:58277]

2002-12-01 Thread Larkin, Richard
Thanks for the info - I was looking at using the ErlangC model due to the
nature of computer networks. Currently, my modelling is based on assuming an
application takes 2 seconds to complete a task if it had 32kbps of bandwidth
reserved for it, I can use the Erlang model to calculate whether 95% of
transactions can be completed within say 2.3 seconds (with the 0.3 seconds
being queue delay) - but by changing the bandwidth I change my underlying
assumption of 2 seconds. Ie, if I allocate 64kbps, then the application may
only takes 1.2 seconds and my model changes accordingly.

The traditional Erlang model applies well on a packet-by-packet basis (just
like queues of people in the bank, etc), but I'm not sure of its
applicability to a series of packets on a whole which make up a transaction.

Regards

Richard


-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Software for Statistical Profiling [7:58277]


Try here for erlang calculator http://www.erlang.com/
 There are 2 type B and C  . B assumes blocked calls don't call back and 
C assumes they stay in
queue.
Chuck Dunkirk

The Long and Winding Road wrote:

>Richard, the software used for your telephone booth problem is called 
>an Ehrlang calculator. it seems that you could use an Ehrlang 
>calculator to do this as well. There are a number of web sites that 
>have Ehrlang calcs. A google search should reveal a bunch of them.
>
>A long time ago, in statistics class, we used to do something called 
>"monte carlo simulations" to figure out stuff like this also. I don't 
>remember much about the mechanics.  Got a statistics professor on you 
>campus?
>
>Chuck
>
>--
>TANSTAAFL
>"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
>
>
>
>
>""Larkin, Richard""  wrote in message 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>I recall in Uni that we used te Poisson distribution and some 
>>mathematical formulae to say that if we have x people arrive per hour 
>>at a phone booth, and the average phone call is y minutes, we would 
>>need z phone booths to ensure that 95% of the time, people don't have 
>>to wait (or only have to
>>
>wait
>
>>xx minutes).
>>
>>Transposing this to application budgeting, I have an application at a
>>
>remote
>
>>site which has a max of 5 concurrent users and the worst transaction 
>>they
>>
>do
>
>>will hog the 64kbps line for 30 seconds (if it is the only 
>>transaction).
>>
>>My question is without revising my lecture notes, what software would 
>>help me determine what bandwidth to allocate this application so that 
>>95% (or
>>whatever) of the time the transaction can be completed in yy seconds?
>>
>>Is there any good software out there which would help me with this?
>>
>>Cheers
>>Rik




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Cisco Internet Solutions Specialist anyone? [7:58378]

2002-12-01 Thread CM Scott
Does anybody here have/(go for)   the  Cisco Internet Solutions Specialist 
certification?

I'm afraid I've  chosen the most obscure certification CISCO has to offer...
feeling sort of lonely and ridiculous...





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RE: VLANs: To be or not to be [7:58350]

2002-12-01 Thread David j
Thanks for your answers Larry and Elijah. I also think that there was
something wrong with the OmniCore (I didn't work directly with it). I have
been also told by a Nortel guy that with their Passport 8600 I wouldn't have
any problem (slowness) at all for routing between VLANs, and I belive him,
but I want to gather some experiences before implementing L3 switching in
other place.
Elijah could you say me what version code were you using when you
experimented that problems with alcatel? (to compare with our version it
would be enough with knowing the year). By the way, we have also experienced
some power supply failures...
Thanx again, I think I'll definitively recommend to use L3-swithing.

Elijah Savage III wrote:
> 
> I want to first start out by saying you all know I am not here
> to bash
> anyone. But Larry you are right when you say something is wrong
> with his
> network and what was wrong with it was the name ALCATEL :). I
> have
> experience with the omni core switches and I can say I did not
> like what
> I saw in the products. I can go on and on about my experience
> with them
> also but I will not bore you all with details. The big problem
> was power
> supply failures, the other thing was slowness and the
> recommended fix
> from alcatel was always upgrade the software, and most times it
> would
> fix it but cause problems with other things. Right before I
> left the
> company they did seem to get good code to fix what we were
> doing. But I
> will say this because of all the money the company sunk into
> them we
> could not get atm to work between a 7500 and one of their
> switches it
> went on for 3 months pointing fingers back and forth, then we
> got all of
> them in one room Cisco and Alcatel and Cisco came armed with
> all kinds
> of docs about how they were following the rfc in their code
> anyway
> needless to say the code slinger from alcatel which had to fly
> over here
> from india for our meeting ended up having to redo some things
> to get
> compatibilty to play with other vendors in the ATM world. I
> still talk
> with the other guys I use to work with and they say all those
> problems
> are gone now and they are happy with Alcatel. So that is my
> experience.
> 
> But I would say with 8500 or 6500 core the CDA model from cisco
> should
> give you no problems or SLOWNESS.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VLANs: To be or not to be [7:58350]
> 
> 
> I have first hand knowledge, we have implemented a
> core/dist/access
> network at cisco with L3 at the core and L2 at the acess end. 
> I have
> also implemented a L3 data center using L3 dist routers and L2
> access to
> the 
> servers.
> 
> This design, from switch to switch across the L3 dist area, is
> 1ms or
> less in the data center
> and only a couple of ms from most points in the core to most
> points in
> the dist. area.
> 
> I would say there was something wrong with the network you were
> using if
> 
> the L3 switches
> were slower than the L2 switched, flat network
> 
> Larry  Letterman
> Network Engineer, IT-Lan
> Cisco Systems
> 
> David j wrote:
> 
> >Hello group, I was wondering about the following question:
> >Is worth to implement VLANs and L3-switching instead a flat
> L2-network?
> 
> >I know that this question has been discussed here several
> times, but
> >the answer is always the same: depends. What I would like to
> know is if
> 
> >sombody has implemented a L3-switched network following the
> "Cisco
> >style" (Core-distribution-access or collapsed core-access) and
> now the
> >performance is better than with a L2 network. I had an
> experience with
> >a network (about 1000 users) with VLANs and Alcatel
> L3-switches that
> >was terribly slow when you tried to transfer files between
> VLANs so the
> 
> >staff decided migrate to a flat network, that increased the
> network
> >performance noticeably. Do you have real experiences or links
> talking
> >about real experiences that I can check?
> >Thanks and advance.
> 
> 




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RE: VLANs: To be or not to be [7:58350]

2002-12-01 Thread Elijah Savage III
I want to first start out by saying you all know I am not here to bash
anyone. But Larry you are right when you say something is wrong with his
network and what was wrong with it was the name ALCATEL :). I have
experience with the omni core switches and I can say I did not like what
I saw in the products. I can go on and on about my experience with them
also but I will not bore you all with details. The big problem was power
supply failures, the other thing was slowness and the recommended fix
from alcatel was always upgrade the software, and most times it would
fix it but cause problems with other things. Right before I left the
company they did seem to get good code to fix what we were doing. But I
will say this because of all the money the company sunk into them we
could not get atm to work between a 7500 and one of their switches it
went on for 3 months pointing fingers back and forth, then we got all of
them in one room Cisco and Alcatel and Cisco came armed with all kinds
of docs about how they were following the rfc in their code anyway
needless to say the code slinger from alcatel which had to fly over here
from india for our meeting ended up having to redo some things to get
compatibilty to play with other vendors in the ATM world. I still talk
with the other guys I use to work with and they say all those problems
are gone now and they are happy with Alcatel. So that is my experience.

But I would say with 8500 or 6500 core the CDA model from cisco should
give you no problems or SLOWNESS.

-Original Message-
From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLANs: To be or not to be [7:58350]


I have first hand knowledge, we have implemented a core/dist/access
network at cisco with L3 at the core and L2 at the acess end.  I have
also implemented a L3 data center using L3 dist routers and L2 access to
the 
servers.

This design, from switch to switch across the L3 dist area, is 1ms or 
less in the data center
and only a couple of ms from most points in the core to most points in 
the dist. area.

I would say there was something wrong with the network you were using if

the L3 switches
were slower than the L2 switched, flat network

Larry  Letterman
Network Engineer, IT-Lan
Cisco Systems

David j wrote:

>Hello group, I was wondering about the following question:
>Is worth to implement VLANs and L3-switching instead a flat L2-network?

>I know that this question has been discussed here several times, but 
>the answer is always the same: depends. What I would like to know is if

>sombody has implemented a L3-switched network following the "Cisco 
>style" (Core-distribution-access or collapsed core-access) and now the 
>performance is better than with a L2 network. I had an experience with 
>a network (about 1000 users) with VLANs and Alcatel L3-switches that 
>was terribly slow when you tried to transfer files between VLANs so the

>staff decided migrate to a flat network, that increased the network 
>performance noticeably. Do you have real experiences or links talking 
>about real experiences that I can check?
>Thanks and advance.




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CSS 11150 Booting Problem [7:58372]

2002-12-01 Thread Zahid Hassan
Dear All,

After a power outage, one of our CSS is failing to boot up properly.
Every time its rebooted, it goes straight to the OFFDM although the
Primary boot device has been selected to be Disk. I have formatted the 
Disk and loaded a new image, it booted with the new image once and its 
Loading to OFFDM every time its rebooted.

I would be really grateful if someone could shed some light on this
problem.

Regards,


Zahid




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RE: ntp packets modes [7:58371]

2002-12-01 Thread Brian Dennis
A very good explanation of NTP modes can be found in RFC 1305 (NTP v3
Specification, Implementation and Analysis). 

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1305.html

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP Dial/Security)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
John Tafasi
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:26 PM
To: Cisco Group Study; ccielab
Subject: ntp packets modes

the debug ntp packets command shows packets sent and received with
different
modes. What are these modes? can some one explain?

R5-2503#
Mar  6 02:42:08.879: NTP: rcv packet from 10.10.10.1 to 10.10.10.2 on
BRI0:
Mar  6 02:42:08.883:  leap 0, mode 2, version 3, stratum 8, ppoll 64
Mar  6 02:42:08.887:  rtdel  (0.000), rtdsp 0009 (0.137), refid
7F7F0701
(12
7.127.7.1)
Mar  6 02:42:08.891:  ref AF428DF1.DDC96254 (02:41:53.866 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:08.891:  org AF428DCF.F7F245A8 (02:41:19.968 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:08.895:  rec AF428DCF.FC06E685 (02:41:19.984 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:08.899:  xmt AF428E00.DDC524C4 (02:42:08.866 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:08.903:  inp AF428E00.E1C1EE1B (02:42:08.881 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
R5-2503#
Mar  6 02:42:23.966: NTP: xmit packet to 10.10.10.1:
Mar  6 02:42:23.970:  leap 0, mode 1, version 3, stratum 8, ppoll 1024
Mar  6 02:42:23.970:  rtdel  (0.000), rtdsp 000B (0.168), refid
7F7F0701
(12
7.127.7.1)
Mar  6 02:42:23.974:  ref AF428DEF.F7D4D2C0 (02:41:51.968 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:23.978:  org AF428E00.DDC524C4 (02:42:08.866 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:23.982:  rec AF428E00.E1C1EE1B (02:42:08.881 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
Mar  6 02:42:23.986:  xmt AF428E0F.F7B05F8D (02:42:23.967 UTC Sat Mar 6
1993)
R5-2503#




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Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-01 Thread p b
Peter van Oene wrote:
> 
> Non intra-area ASBRs are found via type 4 LSAs (ASBR Summary)
> which
> follow the same rules as type 3 summaries and thus prevent non
> zero
> areas from providing transit toward ASBRs (that is where the
> non zero
> area contains neither the source nor ASBR)

You're right.  I went back and looked at my lab config.  I 
had had a link configured as non-0 when I thought it was in
area 0.  Thus the incorrect conclusion regarding externals and
non-0 areas for transit.

It's interesting that OSPF will, apparently, always prefer
an OSPF intra-area path over an inter-area path to a destination,
even when the inter-area path is less cost.  This has implications
for certain area 0 topologies (ie a ring built from p2p links)
and thus can result in sub-optimal paths for certain source
routers and destinations.

This would happen when a router, R, in area 0 is trying to reach
a destination, D in a non-0 area, and there are two ABRs.  ABR_1
and ABR_2 will install intra-area routes to the destination D.
ABR_1 and ABR_2 will advertise into area 0 their costs to D
via type 3 LSAs.  Router R will compute its cost to D through
ABR_1 and ABR_2.  It might determine that ABR_2 is the prefered
ABR through which R should route traffic to D.  However, if the
path between R and ABR_2 causes the traffic to go through ABR_1,
traffic from R to D will enter the non-0 area at ABR_1 (since 
OSPF prefers intra-area paths over inter-area path, even if more
expensive; ABR_1 thus installs the intra-area routes).  Thus,
traffic from R->D takes a sub-optimal path.  Note this behvaior
has nothing to do with summarization.

Given the topology of area 0, little might be possible in avoiding
the sub-optimal routing.  However, R would know, when it computes
its tree to D, that traffic will flow through ABR_1 to get to
ABR_2.   Looking at the cost to D from router R (via show ip route)
it shows the cost as if the path enters the non-0 area at ABR_2.
However, this isn't the path traffic will follow.  

Now, R has the information to make the determination that traffic
will flow into the non-0 area at ABR_1.  Why would R not show the
cost to D via ABR_1 as this is the path that traffic takes?  

Thanks



>  
> > R2->ABR_1->R5->ABR_2->R3
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > >   The
> > > > result with an ABR using non-zero summary information in
> its
> > > > routing table is that some intra area0 traffic might
> > > unexpectedly
> > > > transit a non-zero area.  "Unexpectedly" here means that
> the
> > > > area0 SPF would compute a path to the destination, and
> from
> > > > the SPF perspective, traffic would remain on area0.  But
> when
> > > > the traffic hit the ABR, it might forward the packets
> over
> > > > the non-0 area as that's a better path towards the
> > > destination.
> > > 
> > > Ok, I'm losing you a bit here.  Maybe an example would
> help.
> > > Forwarding
> > > decisions in OSPF are either source to destination, source
> to
> > > ABR, ABR
> > > to ABR, or ABR to destination.  In all of these cases, the
> > > source and
> > > final or intermediary source shared an identical LSDB from
> > > which they
> > > will calculate similar SPF trees.  Hence, there shouldn't
> be a
> > > case in a
> > > stable network where two nodes in the same area find a
> > > different best
> > > path through the area.  In the Area 0 case, assuming the
> > > traffic is
> > > destined to a non-0 area, the ABRs simply forward that
> traffic
> > > to the
> > > nearest ABR, upon which all ABRs should agree with the
> > > exception of
> > > multi-abr areas whos ABRs will not be able to forward back
> > > toward the
> > > backbone due to route preference.  This might be more
> confusing
> > > than
> > > your paragraph though ;-)
> > 
> > See if the example above clarifies this situation.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > A virtual link is the mechanism to "formalize" the use
> > > > of a non-0 area for transit.  The benefit of the VL
> mechanism
> > > > over the thinking above is that a VL allows routers in
> area0
> > > to
> > > > be cognizant of the non-0 area as another way to reach
> > > destinations
> > > > in area0 and thus include these costs into it's LSDB and
> SPF
> > > calcs.
> > > > 
> > > > Compare an ABR including summary LSA information in it's
> > > routing
> > > > table (what I've been asking about) and an ABR at the end
> if a
> > > > VL.   How is the routing information received at this ABR 
> > > > different?   
> > > 
> > > The virtual link allows LSAs to flood through the
> non-backbone
> > > area.
> > > These LSAs allow the backbone area databases to remain
> > > identical for all
> > > routers in the area which is a necessity for link state
> > > protocols.
> > > Breaking this will more than likely lead to routing
> > > instability.
> > > Certainly in some basic topologies, you might be able to
> relax
> > > some
> > > rules and still provide stable routing, but the question is,
> > > what are
> > > you gaining with this topo

RE: Support Exam [7:58366]

2002-12-01 Thread Andy Barkl
Here's a review article that I wrote when I took the exam.
http://tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=202

Good luck!

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From: Siddiqi Kenan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Subject: Support Exam [7:58366]

Hi there,
I got my Support exam day after tomorrow. Any study tips? I am not
feeling
too good about it. Basically 'cos it requires a lot of depth and my
knowledge ain't up to the mark I think.
Also, what is the passing score? Thanks in advance for all your help.

Cheers,

Kenan




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Re: CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]

2002-12-01 Thread Richard Deal
Shahid,

Unlike the CiscoPress book which omits this very important configuration
component, I've spent some time in by book about dealing with multiple
interfaces as it relates to address translation AND filtering, like ACLs and
conduits. Probably one of the most difficult configuration tasks on a PIX is
dealing with a PIX with muliple interfaces, especially when it comes to
address translation. So I definitely spent some time talking about these
topics and how to configure your PIX in this situation. Hope this helps. If
you have any other questions, don't hesitate to holler.

Cheers!
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""Shahid Muhammad Shafi""  wrote in message
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> Hey Richard,
> I am about to purchase ur book but just one quick question: Did u cover
any
> details regarding multiple interfaces configuration examples like 0,100,99
> and 70. Thanks
> Shahid
>  Richard Deal  wrote:Mark,
>
> Actually, Mark, I'm one step ahead of you :-). My PIX book came out at the
> end of October from McGraw-Hill/Osborne. I wrote it as a non-certification
> book, but it covers everything you'd see on the new PIX exam. You can
check
> out a free chapter on Osborne's web site:
> http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/osborne/0072225238.html (watch the wrap!).
>
> I also have some extra stuff on my web site that I couldn't fit in the
book
> because of page constraints. Just vist my home page below.
>
> Cheers!
> --
>
> Richard A. Deal
>
> Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
>
> Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP Remote Access
> Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch
Configuration
> Exam Cram
>
> Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive
Cisco
> exams on the market.
>
>
>
> ""Mark Smith"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > So when are you going to write one, Rich?
> > We're waiting. :)
> >
> >
> > Quoting Richard Deal :
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > The CSS1 exams are valid until the end of January,
> > > upon which you must take
> > > the new exams. CiscoPress doesn't have any books out
> > > yet on the new tests.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > --
> > >
> > > Richard A. Deal
> > >
> > > Visit my home page at
> > > http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
> > >
> > > Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!,
> > > CCNP Remote Access
> > > Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco
> > > LAN Switch Configuration
> > > Exam Cram
> > >
> > > Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the
> > > most comprehensive Cisco
> > > exams on the market.
> > >
> > >
> > > ""John Cianfarani"" wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Can we still write CSS1 or has it been replaced with
> > > the CCSP?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:30 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]
> > > >
> > > > I havent take the new CSI exam, but for CSS1 i
> > > suggest you do the
> > > > following
> > > > : MCNS - PIX - VPN - IDS, and if you already pass
> > > all of them, i dont
> > > > think
> > > > you would have problems with CSI.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ardi
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Shahid Muhammad Shafi
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>
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Re: CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]

2002-12-01 Thread Richard Deal
Mark,

Thanks for ordering my book. Actually, I was in discussion with McGraw-Hill,
Syngress and CiscoPress and all three wanted me to publish a book on the
PIX. CiscoPress wanted me to do a certification book and I wanted to do a
stand-alone book. I was leary about going with Syngress since they're a
small publisher and my last small publisher, The Coriolis Group, went
belly-up earlier this year. Let me know what you think about my book--good
and bad :-). Also, make sure you take advantage of the stuff that I couldn't
fit into the book by visiting my web site.

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Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch Configuration
Exam Cram

Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive Cisco
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> I was teasing, Richard. I ordered yours and a new one by a Callisma(?) and
> Umer Khan called Cisco Security Specialist's Guide to PIX Firewall from
> Bookpool.com yesterday after the post here mentioning it. When are you
going
> to write one for CiscoPress anyway? I'm surprised they haven't approached
> you about it. Never did understand why Ceeesco used to have Firewall IOS
> covered on the PIX test anyway. Glad to see they've changed it. While I
may
> go for CCSP the reason I bought yours is because of the areas you cover in
> it. I work with PIX's and have no training on them. It's a small part of
my
> daily chores and I don't have the time to devote to learning about them
that
> I wish I did. Too many other things to do and keep up with. Not much
> available on the PDM. Cisco's got squat on their site about it other than
> installation. Wonder what all I can do thru the PDM that I just don't know
> about.
> Thanks for writing the book.
>
> Mark
>
> Quoting Richard Deal :
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > Actually, Mark, I'm one step ahead of you :-). My PIX
> > book came out at the
> > end of October from McGraw-Hill/Osborne. I wrote it as
> > a non-certification
> > book, but it covers everything you'd see on the new
> > PIX exam. You can check
> > out a free chapter on Osborne's web site:
> > http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/osborne/0072225238.html
> > (watch the wrap!).
> >
> > I also have some extra stuff on my web site that I
> > couldn't fit in the book
> > because of page constraints. Just vist my home page
> > below.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > --
> >
> > Richard A. Deal
> >
> > Visit my home page at
> > http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
> >
> > Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!,
> > CCNP Remote Access
> > Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco
> > LAN Switch Configuration
> > Exam Cram
> >
> > Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the
> > most comprehensive Cisco
> > exams on the market.
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Mark Smith""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > So when are you going to write one, Rich?
> > > We're waiting.   :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Richard Deal :
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > The CSS1 exams are valid until the end of January,
> > > > upon which you must take
> > > > the new exams. CiscoPress doesn't have any books
> > out
> > > > yet on the new tests.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Richard A. Deal
> > > >
> > > > Visit my home page at
> > > > http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
> > > >
> > > > Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets
> > Revealed!,
> > > > CCNP Remote Access
> > > > Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP
> > Cisco
> > > > LAN Switch Configuration
> > > > Exam Cram
> > > >
> > > > Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the
> > > > most comprehensive Cisco
> > > > exams on the market.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""John Cianfarani""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Can we still write CSS1 or has it been replaced
> > with
> > > > the CCSP?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:30 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]
> > > > >
> > > > > I havent take the new CSI exam, but for CSS1 i
> > > > suggest you do the
> > > > > following
> > > > > : MCNS - PIX - VPN - IDS, and if you already
> > pass
> > > > all of them, i dont
> > > > > think
> > > > > you would have problems with CSI.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ardi
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Support Exam [7:58366]

2002-12-01 Thread Siddiqi Kenan
Hi there,
I got my Support exam day after tomorrow. Any study tips? I am not feeling
too good about it. Basically 'cos it requires a lot of depth and my
knowledge ain't up to the mark I think.
Also, what is the passing score? Thanks in advance for all your help.

Cheers,

Kenan


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configure spanning tree mode [7:58365]

2002-12-01 Thread puro prasad
Hi,
How do i configure the spanning tree mode (cst, pvst, pvst+) on my 6509,
4006, 3524 and 3548 switches.
I had faced problems while establishing a trunk link inbetween a 4006 and a
3524 switch. Has anyone faced any problems in such a scenario.
Thanks.



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Re: Last Minute Thought - OSPF authentication issue? [7:58352]

2002-12-01 Thread Steven A. Ridder
Are you sure you specified the area under ospf for authenticaton?

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RFC 1149 Compliant.



""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote in
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> check this out.
>
> R10
> --
> Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address
Interface
> 222.222.222.7 1   FULL/DR 00:01:58149.22.4.7  Serial0
> 222.222.222.111   FULL/DR 00:00:38149.22.252.2
Ethernet0
> Router_10#
>
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 149.22.4.10 255.255.255.0
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip route-cache
>  ip ospf authentication message-digest
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 qwertyzzyzx
>
> R7
> -
> Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address
Interface
> 222.222.222.101   FULL/BDR00:01:57149.22.4.10 Serial1
> Router_7#
>
> interface Serial1
>  ip address 149.22.4.7 255.255.255.0
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip route-cache
>  ip ospf authentication message-digest
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 cisco
>
> By my reckoning, the adjacency should NOT form because of the mismatched
> passwords. Both routers have the area 0 authentication message-digest
> command under the ospf process.
>
> This is exactly what I don't want to know at this point in my life :-)
>
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RE: Learnkey or Keystone learning [7:58303]

2002-12-01 Thread ccnp ccnp2002
I have taken courses at www.knowledgenet.com

I would say they are good, especially their costs are not bad - and the
material is very close to what you will find on the exam.

More important (to me) is that it is interactive - the best part of it
actually. I now find it easier to study on my PC rather than the same
material in the book!

Go for it!


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Re: VLANs: To be or not to be [7:58350]

2002-12-01 Thread Larry Letterman
I have first hand knowledge, we have implemented a core/dist/access
network at cisco with L3 at the core and L2 at the acess end.  I have also
implemented a L3 data center using L3 dist routers and L2 access to the 
servers.

This design, from switch to switch across the L3 dist area, is 1ms or 
less in the data center
and only a couple of ms from most points in the core to most points in 
the dist. area.

I would say there was something wrong with the network you were using if 
the L3 switches
were slower than the L2 switched, flat network

Larry  Letterman
Network Engineer, IT-Lan
Cisco Systems

David j wrote:

>Hello group, I was wondering about the following question:
>Is worth to implement VLANs and L3-switching instead a flat L2-network?
>I know that this question has been discussed here several times, but the
>answer is always the same: depends. What I would like to know is if sombody
>has implemented a L3-switched network following the "Cisco style"
>(Core-distribution-access or collapsed core-access) and now the performance
>is better than with a L2 network.
>I had an experience with a network (about 1000 users) with VLANs and Alcatel
>L3-switches that was terribly slow when you tried to transfer files between
>VLANs so the staff decided migrate to a flat network, that increased the
>network performance noticeably.
>Do you have real experiences or links talking about real experiences that I
>can check?
>Thanks and advance.




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AS 5400 lost carrier [7:58361]

2002-12-01 Thread Ismail M Saeed
Dear All,
I am running AS 5400 with 16 PRI (analog modems only) and I am facing modem
disconnection after 15 to 30 minutes and the reason is lost carrier
Any info about the reason of this lost carrier (cabling or modem or chassis
or
configuration etc..)

Thanks and best regards
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _




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Re: ntp packets modes [7:58359]

2002-12-01 Thread Erick B.
>From RFC 1305.

0 - unspecified
1 - symmetric active
2 - symmetric passive
3 - client
4 - server
5 - broadcast
6 - reserved for NTP control message
7 - reserved for private use

Symmetric Active (1): A host operating in this mode
sends periodic
messages regardless of the reachability state or
stratum of its peer. By
operating in this mode the host announces its
willingness to synchronize
and be synchronized by the peer.

Symmetric Passive (2): This type of association is
ordinarily created
upon arrival of a message from a peer operating in the
symmetric active
mode and persists only as long as the peer is
reachable and operating at
a stratum level less than or equal to the host;
otherwise, the
association is dissolved. However, the association
will always persist
until at least one message has been sent in reply. By
operating in this
mode the host announces its willingness to synchronize
and be
synchronized by the peer.



--- John Tafasi  wrote:
> the debug ntp packets command shows packets sent and
> received with different
> modes. What are these modes? can some one explain?
> 
> R5-2503#
> Mar  6 02:42:08.879: NTP: rcv packet from 10.10.10.1
> to 10.10.10.2 on BRI0:
> Mar  6 02:42:08.883:  leap 0, mode 2, version 3,
> stratum 8, ppoll 64
> Mar  6 02:42:08.887:  rtdel  (0.000), rtdsp 0009
> (0.137), refid 7F7F0701
> (12
> 7.127.7.1)
> Mar  6 02:42:08.891:  ref AF428DF1.DDC96254
> (02:41:53.866 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:08.891:  org AF428DCF.F7F245A8
> (02:41:19.968 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:08.895:  rec AF428DCF.FC06E685
> (02:41:19.984 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:08.899:  xmt AF428E00.DDC524C4
> (02:42:08.866 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:08.903:  inp AF428E00.E1C1EE1B
> (02:42:08.881 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> R5-2503#
> Mar  6 02:42:23.966: NTP: xmit packet to 10.10.10.1:
> Mar  6 02:42:23.970:  leap 0, mode 1, version 3,
> stratum 8, ppoll 1024
> Mar  6 02:42:23.970:  rtdel  (0.000), rtdsp 000B
> (0.168), refid 7F7F0701
> (12
> 7.127.7.1)
> Mar  6 02:42:23.974:  ref AF428DEF.F7D4D2C0
> (02:41:51.968 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:23.978:  org AF428E00.DDC524C4
> (02:42:08.866 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:23.982:  rec AF428E00.E1C1EE1B
> (02:42:08.881 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> Mar  6 02:42:23.986:  xmt AF428E0F.F7B05F8D
> (02:42:23.967 UTC Sat Mar 6
> 1993)
> R5-2503#



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