Re: PAT AFTER NAT...IS IT POSSIBLE??? [7:66672]

2003-04-02 Thread Ben Woltz
I've found that you cannot do this, at least not when you do nat to a pool
of addresses.  You have to do static nat, then overload the rest.  I tried
adding overload to the end of my existing nat statment with the pool, it
started PATing the addresses from the beginning.  Instead of using the 1:1
from the pool, then pating anything beyond that.

Lee Carter  wrote in message
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 Yes you can just take your nat statement (ip nat inside source list 1...)
 and add the word overload on the end of the command.

 You will use a 1:1 NAT for the first set of users. Once your IP's are used
 up you will use PAT. It is important to note that some issues arise with
PAT
 versus NAT like IPSEC or DLSW.

 just an fyi.




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Re: VPN Client+IOS [7:59283]

2002-12-16 Thread Ben Woltz
The IP address that your VPN Client gets from the router, are you
advertising that route through your network?

JM  wrote in message
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 Hello
 I am trying to run VPN beetwen VPN Client 3.6.2.A and Cisco 2651.
 On Cisco router I have:
 Software with 3DES/IP PLus/FW/IDS - Version 12.2(11)T2
 Router has 4 interfaces:
 serial 0/1 - Internet here I gave cryptomap
 fasteth 0/1 -DMZ
 fasteth 0/0 -LAN ( here I want to be tgrough VPN)
 I have the same configuration like in TAC help :
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/471/ipsecrouter_vpn.html
 VPN Client can login inside router, and I have ipaddress from router,
 but I don't see anything. I can't ping.
 I have question ?
 Where am Im inside the router ? I am in,  but I don't see anything.
 When I will have : ip access-list out on fast0/0 (LAN) what should I
 enable ? I have nat inside on fast 0/0 and outside on ser 0/1
 Regards
 JM




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Re: All doors are closed.. [7:59233]

2002-12-16 Thread Ben Woltz
do you have another 1720 router?  you can try taking the flash out, putting
it in the good 1720, fixing the config and put it back.

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 Hello folks,

 A friend of mine have a serius problem with a Cisco
 1720 router. This router has the console port broken,
 it doesn't work. He usually get into the router using
 the aux port in order to configure the device.They
 tried to download a new config using Cisco Config
 Maker and downloading it by de aux port. The result is
 that now the aux port is closed and the Ethernet port
 doesn't respond anymore. We don't know what happened
 with Cisco Config Maker, the real important thing is
 that we need to recover the access to the router. We
 cannot use the console port because it is broken, the
 aux port is closed (I guess that Cisco Config Maker
 closed it by default), and the ethernet is not
 responding (maybe Cisco Works put it in shut??). All
 the doors are closed!!! There is no time, we need to
 install this box this week!!! Help!
 We have read the cisco cco and the 1720 has a dimm
 memory and a miniflash memory, (please correct us if
 we are wrong). We suppose that the miniflash memory
 stores the config (it works like nvram too?) and if we
 can open the box and replace this mini-flash with
 another one maybe it will work again...
 We really appreciate your help, and my friend will pay
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Re: help [7:59112]

2002-12-12 Thread Ben Woltz
You need a default route sending traffic to your ISPs router, if
12.124.201.146 255.255.255.252 is what you are supposed to put on your
serial, then you need a ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.124.201.145. or the ip
default-gateway 12.124.201.145.

You need to tell your router which next hop to route internet traffic.  The
default-gateway you initially had, 12.104.49.161, is invalid as its the IP
of your Ethernet port.

Brian Zeitz  wrote in message
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 146 was assigned by the ISP

 -Original Message-
 From: Walker, James - Is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 Try:

 interface Serial2/0


  ip address 12.124.201.145 255.255.255.252






 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: help [7:59112]


 Router Setup



 This may be a very simple question, but I set up my router and I cannot
 access the internet. Here is the configuration file. I tried the command
 IP Route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x as well, with no luck. Sigh



 Also does anyone have any links for configuration PDF for 3600 routers?





 version 12.2

 service timestamps debug uptime

 service timestamps log uptime

 no service password-encryption

 !

 hostname Router

 !

 enable secret 5 _/

 enable password

 !

 ip subnet-zero

 !

 !

 ip name-server 12.127.17.72

 !

 !

 !

 !

 interface Ethernet0/0

  ip address 12.104.49.161 255.255.255.224

  no ip mroute-cache

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/1

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/2

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/3

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Serial2/0

  bandwidth 1544000

  ip address 12.124.201.146 255.255.255.252

  encapsulation ppp

  no ip mroute-cache

 !

 ip default-gateway 12.104.49.161

 ip classless

 ip http server

 ip pim bidir-enable

 !

 !

 line con 0

 line aux 0

 line vty 0 4

  password

  login

 !

 end




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Re: help [7:59112]

2002-12-12 Thread Ben Woltz
If you do a show interface, is your ethernet port up, up?

Brian Zeitz  wrote in message
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 Me = dumb :O

 OK thanks, I was confused with my default gateway. Another command I
 forget is

 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

 I can ping my ISP's DNS now, but I can't ping any websites and I cant
 ping my LAN interface from the internet.

 I tried the name-server command with no luck.


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 146 was assigned by the ISP

 -Original Message-
 From: Walker, James - Is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 Try:

 interface Serial2/0


  ip address 12.124.201.145 255.255.255.252






 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: help [7:59112]


 Router Setup



 This may be a very simple question, but I set up my router and I cannot
 access the internet. Here is the configuration file. I tried the command
 IP Route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x as well, with no luck. Sigh



 Also does anyone have any links for configuration PDF for 3600 routers?





 version 12.2

 service timestamps debug uptime

 service timestamps log uptime

 no service password-encryption

 !

 hostname Router

 !

 enable secret 5 _/

 enable password

 !

 ip subnet-zero

 !

 !

 ip name-server 12.127.17.72

 !

 !

 !

 !

 interface Ethernet0/0

  ip address 12.104.49.161 255.255.255.224

  no ip mroute-cache

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/1

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/2

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/3

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Serial2/0

  bandwidth 1544000

  ip address 12.124.201.146 255.255.255.252

  encapsulation ppp

  no ip mroute-cache

 !

 ip default-gateway 12.104.49.161

 ip classless

 ip http server

 ip pim bidir-enable

 !

 !

 line con 0

 line aux 0

 line vty 0 4

  password

  login

 !

 end




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Re: help [7:59112]

2002-12-12 Thread Ben Woltz
Did you use the ip default-gateway command?  I would try using ip route
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.124.201.145.

Brian Zeitz  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Me = dumb :O

 OK thanks, I was confused with my default gateway. Another command I
 forget is

 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

 I can ping my ISP's DNS now, but I can't ping any websites and I cant
 ping my LAN interface from the internet.

 I tried the name-server command with no luck.


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 146 was assigned by the ISP

 -Original Message-
 From: Walker, James - Is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 Try:

 interface Serial2/0


  ip address 12.124.201.145 255.255.255.252






 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: help [7:59112]


 Router Setup



 This may be a very simple question, but I set up my router and I cannot
 access the internet. Here is the configuration file. I tried the command
 IP Route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x as well, with no luck. Sigh



 Also does anyone have any links for configuration PDF for 3600 routers?





 version 12.2

 service timestamps debug uptime

 service timestamps log uptime

 no service password-encryption

 !

 hostname Router

 !

 enable secret 5 _/

 enable password

 !

 ip subnet-zero

 !

 !

 ip name-server 12.127.17.72

 !

 !

 !

 !

 interface Ethernet0/0

  ip address 12.104.49.161 255.255.255.224

  no ip mroute-cache

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/1

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/2

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/3

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Serial2/0

  bandwidth 1544000

  ip address 12.124.201.146 255.255.255.252

  encapsulation ppp

  no ip mroute-cache

 !

 ip default-gateway 12.104.49.161

 ip classless

 ip http server

 ip pim bidir-enable

 !

 !

 line con 0

 line aux 0

 line vty 0 4

  password

  login

 !

 end




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Re: help [7:59112]

2002-12-12 Thread Ben Woltz
I can't ping your serial interface either, leads me to believe your route
table isn't correct.  I can ping your providers interface though, .146  Try
using the ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.124.201.145 command.

Brian Zeitz  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Me = dumb :O

 OK thanks, I was confused with my default gateway. Another command I
 forget is

 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

 I can ping my ISP's DNS now, but I can't ping any websites and I cant
 ping my LAN interface from the internet.

 I tried the name-server command with no luck.


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 146 was assigned by the ISP

 -Original Message-
 From: Walker, James - Is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: help [7:59112]

 Try:

 interface Serial2/0


  ip address 12.124.201.145 255.255.255.252






 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: help [7:59112]


 Router Setup



 This may be a very simple question, but I set up my router and I cannot
 access the internet. Here is the configuration file. I tried the command
 IP Route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x as well, with no luck. Sigh



 Also does anyone have any links for configuration PDF for 3600 routers?





 version 12.2

 service timestamps debug uptime

 service timestamps log uptime

 no service password-encryption

 !

 hostname Router

 !

 enable secret 5 _/

 enable password

 !

 ip subnet-zero

 !

 !

 ip name-server 12.127.17.72

 !

 !

 !

 !

 interface Ethernet0/0

  ip address 12.104.49.161 255.255.255.224

  no ip mroute-cache

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/1

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/2

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Ethernet0/3

  no ip address

  no ip mroute-cache

  shutdown

  half-duplex

 !

 interface Serial2/0

  bandwidth 1544000

  ip address 12.124.201.146 255.255.255.252

  encapsulation ppp

  no ip mroute-cache

 !

 ip default-gateway 12.104.49.161

 ip classless

 ip http server

 ip pim bidir-enable

 !

 !

 line con 0

 line aux 0

 line vty 0 4

  password

  login

 !

 end




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Off Topic - Expand Networks [7:56537]

2002-10-30 Thread Ben Woltz
Does anybody have any experience with Expand Networks Acellerator products?
Could anybody share with me the results you've seen with them?  More
specifically, if you've used them over a VPN?

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RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Woltz

Can you post the config of the router?  Does the Ethernet interface have
sub-interfaces?  One for each subnet?  The answer is probably in the
configuration of the interface on the router.  What IP and Subnet mask does
it have?  Could be that the subnet mask of the router Ethernet is
255.255.240.0 or something less than a /24, therefore the router Ethernet
network contains both 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.2.0/24.


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RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Woltz

192.168.0.100 is what is doing the real routing then for 192.168.2.0/24.  If
you follow the path, from a 192.168.0.20 machine to 192.168.2.20 say, it
goes from 192.168.0.20, to the default gateway, 192.168.0.1 which checks the
route table and sends it to 192.168.0.100 (which is on the same network as
E0 so you're right about routers routing between networks.), then
192.168.0.100 must know where 192.168.2.0/24 is.  All the router is doing is
routing 192.168.2.0/24 traffic to the Linux box first.  Its not that the
router knows where 192.168.2.0/24 is, its just sayin 192.168.0.100 knows so
go there first.


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RE: Catalyst Switches and CDP [7:48603]

2002-07-11 Thread Ben Woltz

You tried show cdp neighbors detail command?  Shows you more detail
information about the neighbors and might include hostname.


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Re: IDS Questions [7:46639]

2002-06-15 Thread Ben Woltz

Shunning refers to the functionality of the IDS sensor to dynamically create
and ACL that denies the attacker access and apply it to a specific
interface.  For example, you would have it setup that when the sensor sees
an attack from 65.65.65.65 it would create and ACL denying 65.65.65.65
access and apply it to the outside interface of a router.


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RE: vpn client [7:46159]

2002-06-10 Thread Ben Woltz


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RE: CSPM for Cisco IDS [7:46206]

2002-06-10 Thread Ben Woltz

You just need to make sure there is a network in the topology for the subnet
that your smtp server is on.  Then, within that network in the topology you
need to add a server there that is the smtp server.  Then you point the
email notifications to that server.  Basically, CSPM needs to know where to
send the smtp messages to.  So you need to tell it what network and what
server on that network it is.


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Boson PIX Test [7:45963]

2002-06-07 Thread Ben Woltz

Can anyone recommend one of the Boson PIX tests that is good?  I am now
scared to get Boson test because I got one for the IDSPM test and it was
horrible.  Didn't prepare me at all for the exam.  Seems like they are not
consistent.


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Re: VPN Design ? [7:45927]

2002-06-06 Thread Ben Woltz

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are referring to Craig, but it
might help.  We also have had problems doing VPN Client connections behind
PAT.  Its only in places where the DSL/Cable router cannot support PAT on
unknown ports, like UDP 1 which is default for VPN 3000 connections. 
Linksys routers are an example.  The workaround is in 3000 concentrator
version 3.5 where you can do IPSec via TCP.  So you can setup PAT on known
ports, like TCP port 80.


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Re: Checksum failure [7:45856]

2002-06-05 Thread Ben Woltz

You could also try copying the file via FTP.  Since FTP is a TCP protocol it
has some reliable built into it.  I've copied images via TFTP where it told
me it was successful, but when I reloaded it came up in rommon and dir
flash: said bad checksum.  Command is copy ftp flash:



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RE: Security hazard?? [7:45731]

2002-06-04 Thread Ben Woltz

I've seen some of Cisco's private VLAN setup.  The way I've seen it
implemented is on a DMZ switch.  Say you have 3 servers on your DMZ, web,
mail, and ftp.  If each of those servers is plugged into a different port on
the same switch and on the same network, you can configure each of them to
be on a private vlan.  Reason being if somebody compromises or hacks into
your web server, they will not be able to get access to the other two
servers.  Because to get there, they'd have to go through the firewall
first.  If the servers were not on a private vlan, the attacker could access
the other 2 servers via the switch.


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RE: passing scores for CCNP [7:45455]

2002-05-30 Thread Ben Woltz

All 4 passing scores are right around 700.  Give or take 10.  Mine were 690
for Routing, 699 for Switching, 703 for Remote Access, and 692 for Support.


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RE: VTP Concentrator - client to client [7:44276]

2002-05-15 Thread Ben Woltz

I think you can do this with Reverse Route Injection.  I haven't done it
before but from what I gather you inject a route for the Client's network
into the concentrator's route table.  Therefore other client's would have a
route to that client's network.  Look into it.  You configure it under
Configuration - System - IP Routing - Reverse Route Injection


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RE: VPN help please [7:43746]

2002-05-09 Thread Ben Woltz

I am having a similar problem.  We have users with iPaq handhelds connecting
to 3000 series with Movian client.  Movian client 1.0 works, but the newest
Movian does not work.  Version 2.0 I believe.  But, version 2.0 does work if
the username/password is internal user to the concentrator.  We do our
authentication via Radius server to NT accounts and if they user their NT
accounts, it won't log them in.  But if I create a user on the 3030, they
connect.  I am currently working with Certicom on this issue but nothing yet.


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