Re: Catalyst 2901
so, let say if I am looking for a switch adding to my existing network, is it worth to purchase cat2901 instead of an expensive cat5000? Also, does the cat2901 support slot modules? "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Han Nguyen wrote: > > > Can someone please tell me how do I know what version of FW and SW on the > > Cat2901 will support Cat 5000 IOS (cmd set)? > > cat2901's use the same software as a cat5000whatever version you > are running, is the same version, same code, same commands, as a cat5k. > > Console> (enable) sh module > Mod Module-Name Ports Module-Type Model Serial-Num Status > --- --- - - - - -- - > 1 2 100BaseTX Supervisor WS-X2900 003605924 ok > 2 1210/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X2901 003976417 ok > > Mod MAC-Address(es)Hw Fw Sw > --- -- -- -- - > 1 00-60-5c-2c-a6-00 to 00-60-5c-2c-a9-ff 1.82.14.5(9) > 2 00-60-5c-21-5d-28 to 00-60-5c-21-5d-33 1.01.44.5(9) > > Cat2901 is a Supervisor I. Cat 2926T is a Supervisor II. > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Han. > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE #6460
congrats!! it must be very exciting, eh? in fact, thanks for taking time to share your experience, i really wish i would do the same sometime next year... :) ""Aaron K. Dixon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello all, > > This is a brief synopsis of my ccie lab and the tools I used to study. If > you're not interested you may want to just hit the delete key now. > > I just thought that I would take a few moments to share my study methodology > for the CCIE lab. I've been meaning to do this since I passed the lab on > November 15th in San Jose, but I always seem to get sidetracked with all of > my newfound free time. This was my first attempt at the lab and I found it > to be fairly straight forward. It wasn't as convoluted as I expected and I > had seen pretty much everything before. > > Day 1 > > The first thing that I did was read through the entire lab TWICE. I > realized that I knew how to do everything and went to work on my diagram. I > found day one to be very easy and was done by 2 o'clock. I checked and > re-checked all of my work and felt very confident in everything that I had > done. After that I spent time making sure that ALL of my information was > recorded correctly and neatly on my diagram. I felt very confident when I > left, but I have to admit as I tried to get some sleep the what if's were > creeping in my mind. > > Day 2 > > I arrived for Day 2 happy to see the Day 2 binder on my desk and went > through the same process of reading the entire lab twice. I realized that I > knew exactly what to do on 90% of the lab and may have to browse the cd for > the other 10%. Again, I found that there was plenty of time and I had > completed everything that I knew how to do by 10:30. I spent the next 30 > minutes reviewing the cd and configuring the remaining 10%. I then re-read > everything and checked over all of my work and made sure that my diagram was > complete. Documentation is very important in the lab not only for > troubleshooting, but to ensure that the proctor can see what you were doing. > The proctor spends all day at the lab and then has to check your work in the > evening or at lunch for day 2. The last thing he wants to do is spend 30 > minutes trying to read your diagram. Of course, this is just my opinion. > > After day 2, I felt real good about my work, but nervous none the less. > This made for what seemed like a never ending lunch. Once we arrived back > at the facility I was called first and on the way back to the lab I was told > that I had made it to troubleshooting and that I had three hours. When I > returned to my desk I found the paperwork for troubleshooting and for the > first time found out how many points I had. I had gained 70 of the 75 > points and only needed 10 of the 25 from troubleshooting. At that point, I > knew that I had passed and just needed to knock out the troubleshooting. As > I looked around I realized that no one else had progressed from Day 2. I > spent about an hour and a half on troubleshooting and felt like I fixed > everything so I turned in my sheet. About 5 minutes later, the proctor > returned with a yellow sticky note with my number on it. He then asked me > if I would erase all of my configs and then I left with a huge grin on my > face. I just couldn't believe that all of my studying paid off. > > I met Chuck Larrieu a few hours later for a victory dinner. I knew that it > would be nice to have some company one way or the other and I was glad that > it turned out to be for good reasons. > > Passing the test was very rewarding, but the journey was just as rewarding. > It's amazing the amount of material that you learn along the way and the > many friends that you make. I have become friends with many people that I > may of never met if I wasn't studying for the CCIE. > > Study Materials > > I studied the normal books Caslow, Halabi, and Doyle and found them all to > be very helpful. I also used three other books extensively that I don't see > mentioned very often. I used the configuring cisco routers for bridging, > dlsw+, & desktop protocols and the Cisco Press Lan Switching Book. I found > them both to be very helpful as I work extensively with cisco routers and > rarely use cisco switches. I also used the CCIEBootcamp labs which I found > to be an excellent resource for practice. There are a lot of other labs, > but most of them don't throw everything together like the bootcamp labs. I > have to admit that I only completed about half of them and never did the > dreaded lab 8, but I studied all 17 of them and read up on anything that I > didn't know how to do. It often takes a large amount of time to do a full > lab, but reading through it and "spotting the issues" can be very helpful. > About 2 months ago I attended the ECP1 course which was taught by Bruce > Caslow. I found Bruce's methodology to be excellent and really got a lot > out of the
Re: CID Beta report
thanks David!! it's a very good insight, and it really helps as I will take it on Dec 14. ""David Steele"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 903gq5$qck$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:903gq5$qck$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi all, > > Just completed the CID Beta. Naturally I am not certain if I passed, as I > have to wait for about 10 weeks, however I am pretty confident. I walked out > of the beta exams in January and Febuary for some CCNP stuff feeling pretty > despondant but eventually passed those exams, so I think that this one will > come through OK. > > Hard facts, for those of you who treasure them: > 184 questions > 180 minutes > no marking questions and going back later > I finished it in about 100 minutes. > > I studied using the Sybex text for CID 3.0 and Boson's first test set. I > only had time to do the questions from the text to highlight the areas that > I was lacking in, then spot reading those areas. I also only had time to > complete two of the four test sets from Boson, but I still think I got my > money's worth. > > The exam questions were mostly reasonable - there were a few trick questions > (probably more than that, I just didn't spot them :) and much more of a > focus on the technology (as opposed to the platform) than the old test's > study guides imply. Lots of stuff on security issues, a good testing of WAN > technologies, including some acronym questions that blew me out of the water > (in an area that I do not have direct exposure to). Some good questions on > your understanding of how various routing protocols interact. > > Oh, and I gotta say, there was one really cool question - I nearly laughed > out loud when I read the joke answer stuck in the middle of it. If you take > the test you'll spot it, I'm not going to spoil it for you (and I'm not > going to skate that close to breaking the NDA). > > Based on what I saw today, I think that Cisco are about to produce an exam > that will stand the test of time much better than the existing CID 3.0. > > Rgds, > Dave Steele > CCNP CCDA > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ftp multicast
anyone knows what ftp multicast is? what is the difference between ftp and ftp multicast? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lab Preparation Advice Revised
thanks, Chuck! ""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001d01c060e7$46e68c00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001d01c060e7$46e68c00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey, everyone, I've cleaned up my CCIE Lab preparation advice file, adding > some thoughts from some folks who recently passed ( with their permission, > of course. ) > > Check it out on my web site > > www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.htm > > Chuck > -- > I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as > it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will > study US! > ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Product images
you have to purchase the visio enterprise version in order to get the cisco product icons... ""Steven Crawford"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello All, > > Does Cisco have a location on their site where they keep image files of > their products? The Visio files at > http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/2.html are good, but I would like > actual pictures of the products to make network diagrams with. > > Does such a database exist?? > > Thanks. > > Steven Crawford BA MCSE CCDA CCNP A+ > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
Guys!! Rather than comment on anyone else (I mean the ones who have the same goal as us), why not we raise our main concern to Cisco, this is a more positive way than just critize others. Maybe I am too subjective to your comments, but I personally think criticism on people is not the main point of our discussion. "Nathan Casassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I certainly agree with all the points Chuck made. One thing that Cisco could do is > change the requirements to take the lab besides just passing the written exam. I am not > saying by any account that the written is easy, but I know people that have passed it by > pure luck and really don't know a darn thing. I know a person right now that has passed > the written by getting the passing score on the dime, and he is taking the lab soon. I > wish good luck to him, however he is walking in blindly with out EVER actually > configured a router. He has no internetworking design or troubleshooting experience in > the real world, however he is going to go and take the lab exam just to "see what it is > like" > > I don't think Chuck's ideas are cruel and unusual. I think they really need to make this > tougher then it already is. Who wants to put "CCIE #102,000" after their name? If they > just open more racks it may get to that point. I believe the written exam should be > scratched with a new format with a higher passing score. Truly the money issue sometimes > makes little difference. If someone has 30,000 grand to spend on equipment, classes, > books etc., a few more grand can't hurt. And if their company is paying then who cares > right? I know a company that has spent countless dollars actually flying a guy to > Canada, putting him up in a hotel...and paying for his labthey did this 5 times > before he passed his lab. Those slots could have been used for someone that actually > knew what they were doing and had a chance to pass. It would be nice if they had a 4 > hour lab prequal after taking the written. Something that would not require a proctor to > pass. You would be given many different scenarios at Sylvan and require to configure > them with a virtual IOS. The configs would be sent to an evaluator at Cisco and then you > would be contacted a week later concerning scheduling your real lab date. This could > weed out some of the flunkies. > > If Cisco ruins the value of this exam, they are not going to have any future revenue > from it. > > Nate > > Chuck Larrieu wrote: > > > >> I was told Cisco was trying to reduce the problem, but not how they were > > going to achieve their goal. (I wish them luck)<< > > > > some cruel and unusual thoughts come to mind. > > > > 1) Set some arbitrary standard such that people who fail day one by more > > than so many points have a 90 day wait for retest, rather than 30 days. Or > > you have to at least made it into day 2 to be able to retest within 30 days. > > Some such thing > > > > 2) Limit the number of times one may attempt the lab in any 12 month period. > > > > 3) Increase the price charged for each lab attempt. E.g. 1K for first > > attempt, 2K for 2nd, 5K for third > > > > I say this half jokingly, but half seriously. I talk to a lot of people who > > take the lab, both those who have passed and those who have not. > > The old rule of economics holds true - people act according to their > > perceived best interest. If someone else is footing the bill, and there is > > no disincentive for failure, then people will act accordingly. They will > > book themselves and make attempts even when they know they have no hope of > > passing. They will schedule attempt after attempt because there is no reason > > not to, especially if someone else pays, and especially if there is no > > penalty for failure. > > > > To be frank, I don't see any incentive for Cisco to do anything to change > > things on the demand side. They might add more racks, or more lab locations. > > But do the numbers some time. Cisco is booking something like 25 - 30 people > > a week in San Jose alone. That's 25-30 K per week in revenue, or at least > > 1.3 million a year. So they pay a couple of lab proctors 150K each. The rest > > is pure profit. ( yes, I know from an accounting standpoint there are > > several other cost factors ) So the incentive from Cisco's standpoint is do > > figure out ways to add revenue, rather than limit testing attempts. > > > > I look for Cisco to announce a bit more capacity, either in terms of adding > > another location or adding more racks at existing locations. Or both. There > > is a ton of money to be made in the certification game, and as the entity > > that controls the rules and the market, Cisco certainly enjoys the lion's > > share of that revenue. > > > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 9:04 AM
Re: Looking for 2520 Router - 2901 Switch
2926T ""Gordon Olson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am looking for a 2520 router and 2901 Switch. I have been watching ebay > for the last few weeks without success. ebay has 24 pages of stuff, no 2520, > lots of 2521's. > > Does anyone have any recommedations on where I might look? I have found > several different resellers but no one returns my emails so I figure they > are either too busy or don't have one. > > The 2901 switch, I understand has the same IOS as the CAT5000. Is there any > other switches that also have the same IOS? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEATED RESPONSE - WAS RE: Lab exam
Chuck, although I tend to agree of what you said on your message, I don't think you are in the position of criticizing anyone with any kind of questions. I do think some of these people sometimes do nothing but just want to get benefits out of the list, but look! they won't get through the CCIE path at the end of the day. If you don't like to reply to these guys, just shut up and do your own work!! Again, I always think the purpose of the list is to share Cisco knowledge around the world, I am sure there are people willing to share knowledge with us. ""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 004201c050d7$031878a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:004201c050d7$031878a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > WARNING: The following is a bit heated. > > YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP THIS ONE > > R > > A > > N > > T > > A > > N > > D > > R > > A > > V > > E > > > OK. Steam coming out of ears. I've been trying to avoid comment on a number > of these kinds of questions, but this does it. > > IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE F*ING WORK, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU DESERVE > TO BECOME A F***ING CCIE??? > > The certification is Cisco Certified Internetworking EXPERT! > > It is NOT Cisco Certified Internetworking SLACKER > > THERE ARE NOT SHORTCUTS DO THE DAMN WORK, OR GIVE IT UP > > Sorry, but there are far too many unqualified people clogging the pipelines, > for training classes and for the Lab itself. The certification is hard to > achieve for a reason. GET IT?? > > My apologies for losing my temper, but I am getting pretty tired of spending > all my spare moments in certification related activities while at the same > time seeing this kind of stuff coming across all the Cisco lists. > > RANT AND RAVE > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Hubert Pun > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:24 PM > To: Cisco Study Group > Subject: Lab exam > > Any one know what to expect on the lab exam? > for example, out of 100 points > how many points are BGP? > how many points are SNA or DLSw? > how many points are IPX? > how many points are OSPF? (is it still 20?) > how many points are Catalyst? > what equipment to expect? (according to the website below, there will > only be 2500, 3600, 4000 and Cat 5k) > how many points are ATM? > > > I have taken a look into http://www.ccbootcamp.com/ccielab.htm and I am > not sure how update the info is. > > Where else can I find the mark distribution for the lab? (i know that > the Cisco blue print does not really have the mark distribution) > > Thanks > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beware of VINCENT CHONG [7:1631]
hey RAMG, i feel bad for your experience, and thanks for your kind warning.
whether who has the problem is not the problem of the group; besides, how
could we determine who's fault if i only have one sided information, and in
fact, i did not partcipate on the actual case. therefore, beware of your
racist wording, and frankly, i am not trying to defend vincent but you may
be over-react... if you have bad experience in one person, and trying to
against the whole race of the kind, is that fair?
""RamG"" wrote in message
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> Hello Gang
>
> Just want to keep you all informed on the board not to deal in any form of
> TRADE {CCIE Material }or BUYING accessories from VINCENT CHONG. I had a
bad
> experience today. We had entered into an agreement to trade CCIE
materials.
> I sent him soft copy of my materials and requested him to make hard copy
of
> his material. The price for hard copy of his material was mutually agreed
> at USD.22. I sincerely sent him the money through pay pal. To my surprise
> he has declined accepting the money and is not interested to send the
> material. Like a KID he sent me this reply Quote "I will send back your
> material and I do not want to trade anymore. I will removed from my hard
> disk." Is this the way CHINESE behave. Surprised.
>
> This is not a complaint. Beware of this GUY - VINCENT CHONG.
>
>
> Thanks / RamG
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6509 MSFC problem [7:10057]
Hi, I have two 6509s (A&B) with two MSFC on each running mslp and hsrp. Did anyone heard about there's problem running mslp and hsrp with four MSFC failover? the problem is that there are only two MSFC failover but don't apply to all four, if you have experience on this problem, please help! The other problem I've had is that, assuming there are only two MSFC running active & passive mode, it shows status is 'others' instead of 'ok', anyone knows what's happening? My guess is on the active node(Switch A), hsrp already failover to the passive(Switch B) one, so layer 3 is fuctioning. However, the Switch A still passing traffic to the associated MSFC, so it causes traffic jam in Switch A, but in fact the traffic should go through Switch B instead. Please suggest... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10057&t=10057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN simulator [7:33841]
just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab in terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating nda, but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or isdn lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33841&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP/CCIE Lab [7:35139]
do you think it's necessary to get a TR switch too? if so, which one is better, 3900 or 3920? ""Ole Drews Jensen"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Actually, Token Ring doesn't have to make your lap more expensive. > > If you look on eBay, you will many times see the 2500 TR routers less > expensive than the 2500 Ethernet routers, and the only difference is the > LAN. If you like I did ended up with five 2500's, the money you can save by > buying two of them as Token Ring routers, you can spend to get a cheap used > MAU. > > Just my 0010 cents. > > Ole > > ~~~ > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~~ > http://www.RouterChief.com > ~~~ > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > ~~~ > > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Charlebois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCNP/CCIE Lab [7:35139] > > > Token Ring is not needed for CCNP. I got mine without ever touching one. > You have to know the theory, and some of the pratical, but if you are > looking to reduce the cost of your lab, that's the first one to go. > > The BRI emulator is priceless in terms of REMOTE. Unless you have hands on > experience with multiple ISDN installations, I highly recommend some kind of > ISDN emulator. > > The 5002 is really helpful when it comes to SWITCHING. There really isn't a > better option for a set-based switch. > > The patch panels seem to be a convience to me. But back-to-back serial > cables are a must. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35354&t=35139 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]
how you will succeed if you don't have lots of reading before you get into real practical...?? huh... you got the point, one reference book is not enough. the CID book from ciscopress is pretty good; again, find something else too, such as the cisco website, it has lots of materials, that's my recommendation. ""ko haag"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi all, > > I just took the CCDA exam and it really sucked! The boson exam did not > help at all and i have all of them. Lucky for me I still passed. The > Cisco press helped but doesn't cover most of the areas. Most of the > test was just reading, understand and assuming what should be done. . > > Now, is the CID exam going to be in the same format? Any ideas out > there what study material should I use. > > Ko, CCNA,CCNP,CCDA.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35621&t=35619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: beta exams [7:36356]
don't 100% got your questions, but let me try it. beta exams are usually under this format, more questions with more time, and it will take longer to give you the exam result; so, the current production ccnp exams still as is. to me, reason of providing ccnp beta is interesting, perhaps cisco got another poll of questions, i guess. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > anybody given beta exams in here in the past? > currently the ccnp track exams are in for beta.. today being the last > day. I was gonna take them when I read that results would be out only > after 8-12 weeks. > 140 questions/3 hours. these exams are of a different format too so > chance of passing is reduced i guess. $50 is the price. > > Or is it that cisco sees to it that a certain %age of people who give > these exams pass out? > If its so, then chances for somebody well-prepared are pretty good. > somebody, please guide. > thx. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36357&t=36356 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Starter & Lab Equipment [7:37312]
Is Catalyst 5000 with Supervisor 1 good enough for home lab purpose? ""Justin C"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Danie, > > I built my home lab entirely from Ebay. There are some good vendors on > there, but the phrase "buyer beware" always comes to mind. I always look at > the sellers feedback, not just for positive ratings but to see if they have > sold equipment in the dollar value I am purchasing. Look to see if the > seller has positive feedback on equipment in that price range. The sellers > I can recommend (based on my own purchases and those of people I personally > know) are: > > networkhardwareresale - great packaging, good prices, quick shipment; > bluedesperateboy - good packaging, fair prices (little high, but top notch > equipment); ciscoware; www.whirled-routes.com; magi-tech; snootfull; lskok > > If you look up their feedbacks, you will see the amount of business they do. > If you are after good deals, be patient about purchasing and watch for > good products at good-to-fair prices. It took me two months to build my > home lab (Catalyst 5000 w/ Sup 2, 2-2501, 2-2503, 1-2502, 1-2513, 1-4000M, > 1-2620, 1-2522, 1-2511RJ, 2-2900 Cat switches, plus all serial/ethernet > cables) for around $9500. All of it from Ebay, and all of it worked when I > received it. Costly yes, but nothing beats continuous hands on experience > with the equipment for months (six so far) on end. Plus, I can configure > almost anything I find in the CCNP and CCIE books I have (save some Token > Ring and ATM of course), which is nice when you have questions about > technologies and want to experiment to learn more about them. Personally, I > will rent rack time to get at the 3900/3920 switches and ATM configurations. > Also, I have not purchased from them, but Optsys.net has some pretty good > deals on 2501 and 2503 router packages. I will be purchasing an ISDN > simulator from them later this month. > > As for the Catalyst 5000 switch, you can substitute a Catalyst 2901 or a > Catalyst 2926T (the "T" means 10/100T connections on the supervisor module > versus the 10/100 Fiber connections on the 2926F). Search the archives for > additional information on rack recommendations AND Ebay sellers to steer > clear of as the topic gets brought up at least once a month. > > Best of luck to you in your studies. > > My apologies to the group for any perceived waste of bandwidth on this often > discussed topic. After reading about it for the past seven months, I just > wanted to drop my $.05 on the table. > > Regards, > > Justin Cluer > > From: "Danie Strydom" > Reply-To: "Danie Strydom" > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCIE Starter [7:37283] > Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:04:08 -0500 > > Dear All, I've recently started active study on CCIE and have limited > experience but CCNP knowledge on Cisco kit. I'm in the process of buying > what I need and I need some advice on where to start and would like to find > out how you guys started out. What do I need for my home lab? I've looked > at auctions on Ebay, is it alright to buy second-hand? Is there IOS upgrades > available free from Cisco? If any of you know a good link to a specific > equipment list I need I'd be very grateful, I've had a look on the Cisco > Routing and Switching Lab equipment list but they only had the following - > no real specifics: > 2500 series routers > 2600 series routers > 3600 series routers > 4000 and 4500 series routers > 3900 series token ring switches > Catalyst 5000 series switches > > I can only afford up to 3600 series routers, what can I do about the rest? > > Thank you for your help and I think this is a great group. > > Kind Regards, > > Danie Strydom > > London, UK > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37367&t=37312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Great Job, Congrats!! Thanks for sharing...!! ""George Zhang"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > All, > > The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test > yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the "Congratulations on Passing > the CCIE Lab!" this morning. > > I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told > that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My > test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about > 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure > on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could > go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through > rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing > except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to > skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along > the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about > the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me > that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was > Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions > and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the > test. > > I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to > achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and > understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my > goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of > NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important > part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled > me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on > practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for > lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that > I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also > to Paul for putting this great list together. > > As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little > over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. > Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the > lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get > time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At > work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole > year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished > school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In > October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the > lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the > ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found > that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and > Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC > (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I > registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last > year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year > I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied > 8-10 hours every day. > > As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I & II, > Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people > on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is > Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few > topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. > So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor > Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I > dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on > practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most > important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and > Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME > ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of > things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the > NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to > access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few > weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your > lab date. > > Thanks again. > > George Zhang > CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP > Sr. Network Architect > Compuware Corpration > 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 > East Rutherford, NJ 07073 > 732-494-0288 > > > __
ATM switch for CCIE [7:38903]
I am looking for a ATM switch, other than LS1010 or LS100 as mentioned by some of you earlier, is there any cheaper solution? Say, would other brand of ATM switch would do the same thing since I understand you don't need to config ATM switch in lab exam anyway? thanks... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38903&t=38903 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it illegal to resell Olive machines that I purchased [7:13057]
if it's legal, i am very interested on purchasing one of your boxes. drop me an email with detailed configurations and prices. thanks. Ron ""Sean Young"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > About 8 months ago, I purchased 3 Olives boxes (PCs that run Juniper > Operating System [JUNOS]) at $900 each. Now that I am done with using > it, I wonder if it is legal to sellthese Olives to anyone who would like > to learn JUNOS. I've seen people selling Cisco gearsall the time with > IOS bundles in. I would like to recoup some of my investments while > lettingsomeone else get exposed to Olives (aka JUNOS on PC) since it is a > very marketable skill. Is it illegal? Sean > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13057&t=13057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MCSE need help [7:15235]
you better ask yourself, are you in the right newsgroup. ""parky chan"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Dear all > My office applicate is Easy Clear but when i use this > function to print out > document , > it prompt > "OLE error code 0x80040154 class not registered OLE object is being > ignored Record > number :4 " > > then prompt fatal error " Error number is 1925 " > How to solve this problem Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15421&t=15235 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CertZone BGP White Paper
Do you have the url for CertZone? ""D. J. Jones"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8lfoou$27i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8lfoou$27i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Unfortunately, it is archived now and the only way to get it is by > purchasing a subscription. > You may wish in the future check out the whitepapers before they are > archived..dj > > > "kikpasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hello, > > I intend taking my Routing exam in 4 weeks time, but I can not get > > hold of a copy of the BGP white paper from CertificateZone, is there > > someone out there who would be kind enough to send me a copy? > > > > Cheers > > Kerry > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cat5 series switch
Hope you can help: anyone can explain the differences between cat5 series IOS and the rest of cat models? what IOS the cat5 is running? any lower models which supports the same IOS as cat5 with lower price? Is the enterprise version IOS is the same as what cat5 series can provide? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE All-in-one (author: moron or genious?)
what is the exact title of the book, and author? is it Mcgraw Hill? If so, I only have the one written by Stephen Hutnik. thanks!! "neal rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > >It would appear that your contact with the book has so befuddled you that > you've forgotten what a paragraph is. > >You're right that there are some problems with the CCIE Lab Study Guide > but its a wonderful tool to have, all in all. I imagine the second version, > which I see is out on the shelves at Borders, goes a long way towards correcting > the deficiencies. > > > I've used the book, errors and all, and I completed 70+ labs before I went > off and started inventing my own stuff. I credit that book with getting me > through ACRC and I recommend it to anyone that is working on Cisco certs ... > wish I'd had it when I was doing the CCNA. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hey Groupies, > > Just wanted to bring up a topic that I've been pondering. About a month > > ago, me and another member on the list met up and started working on his path > > to CCIE, starting with the "CCIE All-In-One Study Guide." Any of you who have > > ever used this book have all seen the massive amounts of errors in it, from > > picture errors, config errors, and even syntax spelling errors. We are almost > > through the whole book and I must say that out of the 80 labs in the book, at > > least 75% of them have had AT LEAST a tiny glitch on the authors part. I have > > hated this for the time that I've been working in the book, until last night. > > Me and the other member were working on one of the BGP labs. First of all, > > there was a config missing for one of the routers, and for router D in the > > config there wasn't supposed to be a serial address...but of coarse in the > > picture there was one. We literally spent about 2 hours on what was supposed > > to be a 20 minute lab. I commented this and the other member said "I know, > > this is great." That's when I got to thinking. What if this author made all > > of these mistakes to teach us troubleshooting. I must admit, I have spent a > > lot of time on these labs trying to figure out what's wrong with them after > > we use what the author wants, and I even get better from it. On the way home > > last night I was thinking that maybe the book was intended to be that way and > > all of those errata's are just ruining it because it's letting people not use > > their heads. If this is NOT the case and the author didn't intend in making > > this book a troubleshooter, then maybe he is a moron. But if he did, indeed, > > write this book this way intentionally, then I have to tip my hat and say > > that he is a genius and a great teacher. Just my thoughts guys. After all, > > the second half of "the lab" is fixing what was made wrong. If this book can > > simulate that...then it is the best CCIE study guide to a certain level. Have > > a good one group, > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a > > Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and > > explode once a year killing everyone inside. > > ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In defence of Brad
Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not? Concerning he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to this list, and some of the tech people within the list. Most importantly, he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make money out of that. Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not? "ian gomeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400 > "Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems. A lot of CCIE's > don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land. He's > still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff. If I had a > way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.' > > - > > I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from a > list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by > helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you. > > It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as opposed > to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of previous > postings. > > Point made perhaps? > > ian > > > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etherpeek
I've got a demo version of Etherpeek, and did anyone have experience on how to config it so that I am able to monitor packets in and out from a remote host which locate in the same lan segment? or even a host on different network? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AS number
basically bgp, and the ip addresses are class C addresses, which our network have class C addresses as well. We are an ISP, and my partner is a system integrator. ""McCallum, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk... > Firstly, we would all need to know what routing protocols are in use here, > then what are the ip addresses of you and your partner. Secondly what type > of vendor are you both using. > > Until then I and I expect no one else can answer your question. > > -Original Message- > From: Ronald James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 August 2000 12:38 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: AS number > > > we have our own AS number with class C addresses, now if my partner has a > few class C addresses which they want to migrate to our AS, is it possible? > if so, how(any examples may hlep)? what other factors I should aware of ? > > thanks in advance!! > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP telephony beta exam
anyone took this exam? what topics it's covered? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icq port number
anyone knows what port numbers icq are using? thanks... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written!
Congrats!!! Keep going... ""Dave Malik"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just passed CCIE Written! Finished the test in one hour. It was fairly > easy. > > ...on to the LAB! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS number
we have our own AS number with class C addresses, now if my partner has a few class C addresses which they want to migrate to our AS, is it possible? if so, how(any examples may hlep)? what other factors I should aware of ? thanks in advance!! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Management Tools [7:48906]
anyone knows there is network management tools would providing reports on round trip delay between a central site to several regional sites? the reports must be presented in hard copies or email format... thank in advance ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48906&t=48906 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]
ladies & gents!! before u made any attacking or too exaggerated messages to other countries, please consider!! otherwise u are violate the states is the most freedom countries in the world i never tried their products but if it runs the same cisco ios or something copying cisco's design, just escalate to cisco and let them handle it, since we actually don't know their business deals behind, agree? ""Thomas E. Lawrence"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > See what happens when American companies send their manufacturing to China? > All those products sure look like their Cisco counterparts. Why pay Cisco's > price when you can buy the Chinese knock off and save a ton of money? > > What was it Lenin said? When it comes time to hang the Capitalists, they > will cut eachother's throats to sell us the rope? > > BTW, I find no mention of EIGRP on the website. > http://datacomm.huawei.com/english/ > > Tom > > > ""cebuano"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Yeah, this company even has its own stack of certs starting with > > HCNE, HCSE, and last but not least, HCIE!!! Yikes, some more paper > > Certs to hang on the wall :-> > > But on the serious note, if I can get this 3640 for $500 and load a > > Cisco IOS, who cares?? Heck, buy the 3680. > > > > Elmer > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Ron Tan > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: OT: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670] > > > > Hi group, > > > > A piece of Huawei 3640 router just came in the office for evaluation. > > The > > whole box seems like a complete duplicate of Cisco's routers, even the > > CLI > > looks and feels like home. > > > > Heard that the Huawei box has the ability to run EIGRP and HSRP together > > with Cisco. Anyone tried running the 2 boxes parallel together ? > > > > Comments welcome. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ron Tan > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49935&t=49670 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPVPN [7:49936]
anyone knows anywhere i can find comparison of IPVPN and other similar technologies (such as frame relay, IPLC, etc.)? also, any standard benchmarking of the IPVPN services as u may know? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49936&t=49936 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]
please, please, don't make any attacking comments to other countries before u find out the truth, if this is a copy action against cisco, just escalate to cisco, that simple !! it seems to me your discussion is a bit off now, please do focus on our concern and suggest constructive advices. ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > EVERYTHING in China has ties to the government... it's called > communism.. > > Mike W. > > "Peter van Oene" wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > These guys actually are a major player in the asian market space. They > > apparently reverse engineer products and push them to market at very low > > prices. I believe they may have some ties to government as well. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49949&t=49670 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
