HELP..........FTP Problem [7:61549]
Hi All, I am facing a strange problem at a customer site over here. We have to access a FTP server(Win2k machine acting as FTP server). This server is siting on valid IP. We are using private IP range at our end. Now the issue is that when we try to get data from this server, we are able to login into the server and go to the required directory, but the moment we try to do ls or try to pick or put data from there, the connection is broken. Now the same server can be reached through other networks, i.e. on direct internet or other client side machines. So the server is working fine, the permissions to the ID are fine, I am able to do extended trace-route to server in question from my gateway router and we have ruled out any blockage on our network by giving any-any statements on our firewalls. I am not able to get much out of this problem. May be some one from you has better knowladge about this. Any help would be appreciated, TIA (Thanks in Advance) Vikram Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy the best in Movies at http://www.videos.indiatimes.com Now bid just 7 Days in Advance and get Huge Discounts on Indian Airlines Flights. So log on to http://indianairlines.indiatimes.com and Bid Now ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=61549t=61549 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: frame relay stumper [7:60567]
Hi Geoff, Just a small possibility Double check on what circuit is termining on the physical interfaces. What I mean to say is, if the two ends are not connected to the same circuit physically too, it might show you up/up (due to some other ends connectivity) but it won't be the result what you are looking for. Show cdp neighbor command can help you in this i.e. if some other Cisco router is getting connected ypu can see that in place of desired router. It had happened with me, so maybe it's the cause. Regards, Vikram Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote: How's this for nutty: We have a frame-relay point-to-point circuit going between our Cisco 7500 core router and a 2500 remote router, and the subinterfaces have IP addys of .1 and .2, respectively. Both sides' subinterfaces are up/up, but I am not able to ping either IP address, even when I am on the host router for each address! Both sides have other working subinterfaces which I have tested similarly, and these use the same physical circuit, so I know the circuit is good. OH... and this connection WAS working at some point, but I can't tell when it stopped working, due to the fact that neither router recognizes that there is a problem. I tried bouncing both subinterfaces and reloading the 2500, but the problem remains. Any advice about what I may be overlooking would be a Godsend. Thanks! GM Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy the best in Movies at http://www.videos.indiatimes.com Now bid just 7 Days in Advance and get Huge Discounts on Indian Airlines Flights. So log on to http://indianairlines.indiatimes.com and Bid Now ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=61290t=60567 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Hello (long response) [7:58824]
Hi all, I fully agree with Mark. No doubt being a CCIE is a bench mark, and not a small one, and you can not expect anyone to know everything. Multi-skill sets are required yes, but then speaking about or treating people in that fashion is totally un-acceptable. Just my 2 C. Regards, Vikram Mark W. Odette II wrote: Man, talk about being just past adult-hood, but way short of being classified as an adult- much less a professional. Just a touch of advice: Never EVER Gloat about terminating people, much less talk about it in a public forum... for all you know, those CCIE's you allegedly fired could be on this list too... and I'm sure their building the warm fuzzy about exacting some sort of revenge on your smart-elecky little @$$.. You were just about to crawl into a hole poor me two weeks ago about possibly being unemployed, but yet now you revel in the unemployment of others because you're on a power trip! Puleeez. You and your manager both need to get a Clue! Oh yeah, and what was the name of that consulting firm you said you now work for again?? I just would like to know so that I can steer clear of your company... Just so you know, you most probably have a Kick me HARD sticker stuck on your back... watch those corners... and get your scooter fixed- it has an obnoxiously squeaky wheel. -Original Message- From: adrian jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hello (long response) [7:58824] Elping, Please do NOT make any statements regarding CheckPoint Firewall without knowing all the facts. I've been working with both Checkpoint and Pix firewalls. I even build a few franken pix firewalls so that I can learn as much as I can about Cisco Pix firewalls. The franken pix firewall actually help me landed my current job that pays 100k/year. Both CheckPoint and Pix firewalls have its strength and weaknesses. I agree that Cisco TAC is much superior than CheckPoint support. The no text configuration that you refer to in CheckPoint, you must be refered to running CheckPoint on Winblows platforms. NEVER RUN FIREWALL ON A GENERAL PURPOSE OPERATING SYSTEM. If you worry about cost, check out CheckPoint SecurePlatform. If you are unix literate, does the term tcpdump mean anything to you? That's how you troubleshoot my friend. Now if you are talking about cost, Cisco Pix will beat CheckPoint by a long shot in term of performance for your $. However, for a small/medium business, Checkpoint does come with a lot of features such as URL filtering (native), http load balancing, etc which Pix doesn't have (without 3rd party products). For enterprise environment, CheckPoint does come with ClusterXL (aka, load-sharing or Active/Active Firewall), which again, Pix doesn't support. Last but not least, CheckPoint does have a very nice Management piece called provider-1 that Cisco Pix doesn't have. I do have to say that the price for CP products is totally outrageous; however, CP is a good product. In terms of hardware product, you can run CheckPoint on Nokia Platforms which is very stable and proven product. New version of Nokia firewalls do come with Flash instead of hard-drive so that the reliability is very high. Nokia is a big partner with CP. You can get CP support if you purchase Nokia firewalls from Nokia. Nokia TAC is just as good as Cisco TAC. I've completed my first week at my new job as a Security Engineer and I am amazed at the # of Cisco Certified folks at my company that are completely incompetent and downright clueless at what they can do. We are a consulting company and being in the consulting business, you are forced to know pretty much about everything. I have a couple of CCIEs in the office came to me and ask me how to restart sendmail and postfix (we are a linux shop) in linux. Another CCIE asked me how to use nmap in unix. The last one is down right funny, one CCIE asked how to start Apache in Solaris. It just seems to me like Ramp;S are all they know and nothing else. We also do Ramp;S here but at these times, demands for those have not been that great. Therefore, we have to branch into other things such as Security (PIX, CheckPoint, Wireless, IDS, etc...) I brought these issues to my boss attention last wednesday and on thursay he ordered me to 'clean' house. The first thing I did was to send pink slips to all 4 CCIEs in the group and told them that they are fired because they don't know anything other than Ramp;S. They were making $130k/year and sucking almost all of our budget. My advice to everyone out there is to keeping learning other things in addition to the Ramp;S. The market for CCIEs is not as good as it used to be. You better know other things especially Unix and Firewalls than just merely Ramp;S. There will be lot of good peopel competing for the same jobs and the only way you can show the potential employers that you are better than the other guy is by showing them that you
Re: Catalyst 35xx question [7:58202]
Hi Jeff, No, I don't think so it is necessary. As VLANs are essentially layer 2 entities, you can just add them through VLAN Databse. But if you want to use the Layer 3 functionalities, then its a different issue, Regards, Vikram Jeff Specoli wrote: If you have multiple VLANs defined on a 35xx switch, do you *have* to create an SVI (interface VLANx) for each VLAN? Thanks... Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58285t=58202 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595]
Hi All, Very rightly said that these messengers use so many servers and so many ports that it's kind of impossible to block them all. But you can very easily do it, right on the OS level. I know about the Win2K that you can set up some system policies with which you can directly block these exes themselves. Hope it helps: Regards, Vikram Lidiya White wrote: Try to block the login servers: http://acronymsonline.com/im_ips.htm -- Lidiya White -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josh Green Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595] It is possible, however Messenger uses so many different ports on so many different servers that it's not worth your time. -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595] no. don't waste your time. Ahed Naimi wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... gt; Dear All; gt; gt; Is there any way to block MSN Messenger by using the access-list statements gt; on an IOS Cisco router. gt; gt; Thanks All. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57714t=57595 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCRAN Exam [7:56878]
Hi All, I am appearing for my BCRAN exam coming Monday, any tips, things to remember or crucial points are requested from all you guys who have appeared in the said exam recently. Thanks and regards, Vikram Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56878t=56878 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Expensive [7:56598]
Hi All, Are we expecting any hike in the exam fees in near future, for this CCNA-CCNP series... Regards, Vikram Reza Sharifi wrote: Here, The price is $125 Lesly Verdier wrote in message news:200210311532.PAA09020;groupstudy.com... gt; Hi all, gt; gt; I just passed the CCNA-exam. I had to pay 170 Euro (in the gt; Netherlands) which is approximately $170. Is the price for gt; this exam also so expensive in the US? gt; gt; Just curious. gt; gt; Lesly Verdier Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56881t=56598 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
Hi All, A small thing on this. Cross check whenever you are putting that router, what is the default gateway. What I want to indicate over here is, the Microsoft Outlook looks around for the SMTP and POP-3 servers through the default gateway of the machine, so the other applications might work through your Proxy IP or some other solution, but Outlook would always try to go through the Default Gateway of the machine. Hope it helps, Regards, Vikram Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: I agree that it doesn't sound like an MTU problem. There are often problems with MTU when DSL, VPNs, tunnels, etc. are used, so people might jump to that conclusion. But e-mail messages are often very short and would easily fit into most MTUs even after overhead. To test whether it's an MTU problem, try some oversized pings. The MTU issue occurs when a full-sized packet arrives at an interface that needs to squeeze it into an MTU along with the overhead. The interface could fragment, but maybe the application or transport layer set the Don't Fragment bit. Quite a few applications do that as part of their MTU discovery process. The problem is made worse if there's an access list that is blocking the ICMP Fragmentation required but DF bit set message. Here's a Cisco article on MTU: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html This isn't a criticism of the original poster, who was already doubting the people who told him it was an MTU problem, but it does give me a chance to get on my soapbox about troubleshooting methods. A lot of people troubleshoot using the technique we learned in grade school to match items from Column A with items from Column B. ;-) Column A has network types and Column B has most common problem for network type. It's important to know about common problems, but it's just as important to gather data, research symptoms, and use logic and reasoning. Cisco's troubleshooting method really does work: 1. Define the problem. 2. Gather facts. 3. Consider possibilities. 4. Create an action plan. 5. Implement the action plan. 6. Observe the results. 7. Do problem symptoms stop? If no, go back to 4 or possibly to 2. If yes, problem resolved, document the results. OK, off my soapbox now! :-) ___ Priscilla Oppenheimer www.troubleshootingnetworks.com www.priscilla.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gt; gt; I found email to be a touchy thing... Especially when dealing gt; with M$ gt; 0utlook. Are you sure it's the MTU size that's the problem gt; with email. gt; gt; I know in our situation, I had to add the mail server name amp; IP gt; to the host gt; file of the remote pc. Some times we experience some latency, gt; but for the gt; most part it's only been about half a minute. gt; gt; Cheers, gt; mkj gt; gt; -Original Message- gt; From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:55 PM gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Confused about MTU size [7:54689] gt; gt; gt; Can some one explain clearly how does MTU size affect windows gt; applications gt; where these applications won't work over a network link. I have gt; a certain gt; home user that can establish a vpn tunnel through a DSL to gt; corporate network gt; and all applications will work except for email. The only gt; difference is a gt; cisco router in between the homeuser and corporate network. gt; Without this gt; cisco router (with homeuser directly attached to DSL modem) gt; there are no gt; problems. Some one mentioned MTU could be the problem, but if gt; the frames are gt; larger then MTU don't they get fragmented and re-assembled at gt; the other end. gt; How could MTU size fail single application while everything gt; else works fine. gt; Thanks for any help. gt; gt; Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54791t=54689 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP [7:54262]
Hi John, I think the following link would stand sufficient initially. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html Regards, Vikram John Hutchison wrote: OK...I've been dreading this. It's time for me to start getting into the nuts and bolts of BGP. I don't wanna spend $70 bucks right now on a book and I don't want a TOME of a thousand pages. I'm looking, right now, for the briefest, but full reference for it. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance. -John Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54741t=54262 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Load on a serial link [7:54626]
Hi All, I am into some debate with one of my friend, what would be the actual load of a serial interface. Suppose I am having a E1 Serial interface, so is it possible to have 2 MB input and 2 MB output at the same time or for calculating total utilazation of an interface just add on the 5 minute input/output rate. Any light on this with supporting documents or URLs would be highly apprecialted. Thanks in advance. Regards, Vikram Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54626t=54626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGX firmware upgrade [7:54441]
Hi Puro, Upgrading the Firmware image of a UFM (for that matter any non-redundant) card will take it kind-of out-of-service, and it won't be available to perform it's regular operations. So plan the downtime window for this purpose, in advance. Regards, Vikram puro prasad wrote: hi all, I have a UFM card with 12 PVCs configured and running. I need to upgrade the firmware of the card which would take round 10 mins. and the then the card will be resetted. Will the data traffic get affected during the upgrade period?? anyone knows. to Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54544t=54441 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EM [7:54475]
Hi Ismail, I think you need to reframe your question. If you ask me Eamp;M is an interface type, and the numbers of channels would depend upon the line or trunk on which you are using this interface type. So on a T1 facility configured with a Eamp;M interface, the facility would be having 24 channels. Regards, Vikram Ismail M Saeed wrote: All, Does anyone know how many voice channels the Eamp;M interface carry ? Thanks and best regards Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54546t=54475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Certificatiom [7:53666]
Hi All, As per my knowledge, you have to take all these certification exams through some prometric center. There you have one prometric ID assigned to your name. If one person sticks to on ID throughout, this ID would be having complete records of Exams attempted, passed or failed etc. Ask this guy to get his prometric ID and get it checked from some prometric center. Thanks and Regards, Vikram Robert Edmonds wrote: At my last organization, we had someone who lied about their Microsoft certification. We just called the number that you would call to check your own status, told them what we suspected, and they verified it. Try that. Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... gt; Yes. The Cisco website has a section that allows you to check CCIE status. gt; You need the person's name and their CCIE # to verify it. As for the CCNP, gt; I haven't heard of anything to check this status. gt; gt; Shawn K. gt; gt; gt; -Original Message- gt; gt; From: Han Chuan Alex Ang [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] gt; gt; Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:41 PM gt; gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; gt; Subject: Certificatiom [7:53666] gt; gt; gt; gt; hi, everyone , is there any way to verify if it is true if a person gt; gt; claimed gt; gt; he has a CCNP or CCIE certification ? uy Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53797t=53666 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: interface vlan 1 -- no shut [7:53682]
Hi All, Tom very rightly pointed the management VLAN stuff. I would like to add on one more thing into it. What you were trying to do was, that you were trying to up a layer three interface, whereas VLANS, a layer two entity are created in the VLAN Database. regards, Vikram Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53798t=53682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: simple ISDN / PRI question [7:33357]
Hi All, Rightly said by Sasa. The only thing is, in an ISDN network, channel 0 is not configurable or apparant before you, whereas in a WAN Switched enviorment you can have a 30 or 31 channel line as per configuration. Regards, Vikram Sasa Milic wrote: Slot 0 is used for sinhronization. Slot 16 is D channel. Slots 1-15,17-31 and B channels. Sasa CCIE #8635 bergenpeak wrote: gt; gt; In Europe, a PRI carries 30B and one D channels. Each operates at gt; 64kb/s. gt; The overall PRI bandwidth is 2.048 Mb/s. 31 channels at 64 kb/s gt; is 64kbps less than 2.048Mb/s. gt; gt; What's the 32nd 64kbps channel used for? gt; gt; Thanks Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53811t=33357 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question [7:33012]
Hi All, As per the information provided in your mail, I assume that you are managing some routers available in some Lab enviornment, where students do all their practicals etc. Now I would suggest you to keep copies of all your basic startup-configs on some PC so that you can paste them back as and when required. Regards, Vikram Gerald Park wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anybody can help me out on something that seems that I can't seem to figure it out. I manage a group of routers at a university and I would like to know how to erase configurations made on a router so that the entire configuration is clean but not deleted. So after someone has did their configurations on it and maybe saved it to the starting configuration, what is the simplest way can I erase all that they did on it but still keep the basic config file in memory. PLease help me this is for work!!! Thanks. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53817t=33012 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
