Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]

2002-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings all,

I've a 6509 with 2 sups and MSFCs, running hsrp between both MSFCs.
Routing 5 vlans, two of those 5 vlan are also bridging decnet.  When
I've the standby interface up, users can't get out, if I shutdown the
standby interface all is good.  According to Cisco I've to enable
"standby use-bia" feature to prevent this problem.

Have you guys seen this before, and what causes this problem?  Just
looking for some education and solutions.


Thanks..Nabil - Hope I made my problem clear!




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RE: Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]

2002-03-26 Thread Roberts, Larry

This is more of a question on top of this question?
If I have dual Sup's in a 6509, why not just run high availability and not
worry about HSRP ? Does HSRP give you something that
High Availability doesn't ? Once again, this is a question, not a statement
or recommendation.

Thanks

Larry 

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Greetings all,

I've a 6509 with 2 sups and MSFCs, running hsrp between both MSFCs. Routing
5 vlans, two of those 5 vlan are also bridging decnet.  When I've the
standby interface up, users can't get out, if I shutdown the standby
interface all is good.  According to Cisco I've to enable "standby use-bia"
feature to prevent this problem.

Have you guys seen this before, and what causes this problem?  Just looking
for some education and solutions.


Thanks..Nabil - Hope I made my problem clear!




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RE: Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]

2002-03-26 Thread Bill Carter

It relates to DECnet using the mac address of the interface to derive the
DECnet address.  You need to configure DECnet, then HSRP using standby
use-bia.

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Greetings all,

I've a 6509 with 2 sups and MSFCs, running hsrp between both MSFCs.
Routing 5 vlans, two of those 5 vlan are also bridging decnet.  When
I've the standby interface up, users can't get out, if I shutdown the
standby interface all is good.  According to Cisco I've to enable
"standby use-bia" feature to prevent this problem.

Have you guys seen this before, and what causes this problem?  Just
looking for some education and solutions.


Thanks..Nabil - Hope I made my problem clear!




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Re: Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]

2002-03-26 Thread MADMAN

See if this helps explain what your seeing.  I haven't seen the decnet
problem myself but I have seen the use of the bia "fix" strange HSRP
problems.  It's a tool I keep in the back of my mind

  Dave

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/hsrpguide4.shtml#3


"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> 
> Greetings all,
> 
> I've a 6509 with 2 sups and MSFCs, running hsrp between both MSFCs.
> Routing 5 vlans, two of those 5 vlan are also bridging decnet.  When
> I've the standby interface up, users can't get out, if I shutdown the
> standby interface all is good.  According to Cisco I've to enable
> "standby use-bia" feature to prevent this problem.
> 
> Have you guys seen this before, and what causes this problem?  Just
> looking for some education and solutions.
> 
> Thanks..Nabil - Hope I made my problem clear!
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Re: Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]

2002-03-26 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

When using DECnet, the MAC address is changed
depending on the DECnet address. You need to use the
HSRP use-bia feature with DECnet. HSRP then uses the
DECNet MAC address. 

From

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/decnet.htm

DECnet hosts do not use manufacturer-assigned Media
Access Control (MAC)-layer addresses. Instead, network
level addresses are embedded in the MAC-layer address
according to an algorithm that multiplies the area
number by 1024 and adds the node number to the
product. The resulting 16-bit decimal address is
converted to a hexadecimal number and is appended to
the address AA00.0400 in byte-swapped order, with the
least-significant byte first. For example, DECnet
address 12.75 becomes 12363 (base 10), which equals
304B (base 16). After this byte-swapped address is
appended to the standard DECnet MAC address prefix,
the address is AA00.0400.4B30.


--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> I've a 6509 with 2 sups and MSFCs, running hsrp
> between both MSFCs.
> Routing 5 vlans, two of those 5 vlan are also
> bridging decnet.  When
> I've the standby interface up, users can't get out,
> if I shutdown the
> standby interface all is good.  According to Cisco
> I've to enable
> "standby use-bia" feature to prevent this problem.
> 
> Have you guys seen this before, and what causes this
> problem?  Just
> looking for some education and solutions.
> 
> 
> Thanks..Nabil - Hope I made my
> problem clear!
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Re: Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]

2002-03-26 Thread MADMAN

It's a good question though.  When the 6500 first came out there was no
config-sync or SRM which was a problem if you had a flexwan. 
config-sync was nice for flexwan support but still required HSRP.  SRM
is what I have been doing for a while now and it works well and there is
no HSRP necessary, one less feature to find bugs in!!

 my $.02

  Dave

"Roberts, Larry" wrote:
> 
> This is more of a question on top of this question?
> If I have dual Sup's in a 6509, why not just run high availability and not
> worry about HSRP ? Does HSRP give you something that
> High Availability doesn't ? Once again, this is a question, not a statement
> or recommendation.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Larry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Bridging and HSRP [7:39525]
> 
> Greetings all,
> 
> I've a 6509 with 2 sups and MSFCs, running hsrp between both MSFCs. Routing
> 5 vlans, two of those 5 vlan are also bridging decnet.  When I've the
> standby interface up, users can't get out, if I shutdown the standby
> interface all is good.  According to Cisco I've to enable "standby use-bia"
> feature to prevent this problem.
> 
> Have you guys seen this before, and what causes this problem?  Just looking
> for some education and solutions.
> 
> Thanks..Nabil - Hope I made my problem clear!
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Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
612-664-3367

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