Advice : CCIE written (R/S) [7:15005]
HI All, Could any of you please advise me on anything I should concentrate my efforts on for the exam, not breaking your non disclosure with Cisco. Here is a list of what I spend a lot of time on (study wise) General Routing Advanced routing - BGP, OSPF, EIGRP (includes metrics, theory, configuration etc) Switching Multicast routing route filtering protocols (IP and IPX etc) Bridging DDR ISDN My ATM skills are only theory!!! Thanks in advance Rob CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15005t=15005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice : CCIE written (R/S) [7:15005]
For the written, Radia Perlman's Interconnections is a must read. So is the CCIEprep.com Token ring paper. Good stuff to know, test or no test. Tony M. #6172 - Original Message - From: Thompson, Robert D To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 4:15 AM Subject: Advice : CCIE written (R/S) [7:15005] HI All, Could any of you please advise me on anything I should concentrate my efforts on for the exam, not breaking your non disclosure with Cisco. Here is a list of what I spend a lot of time on (study wise) General Routing Advanced routing - BGP, OSPF, EIGRP (includes metrics, theory, configuration etc) Switching Multicast routing route filtering protocols (IP and IPX etc) Bridging DDR ISDN My ATM skills are only theory!!! Thanks in advance Rob CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15016t=15005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Advice : CCIE written (R/S) [7:15005]
In my particular case, this is what worked for me: Books: Jeff Doyle vol 1, Caslow, the Exam Cram CCIE prep book. I read Perlman, but other than the first couple of chapters, I am of the opinion there are better ways to spend one's time. Papers: there are two token ring RIF papers available for free, one in on the groupstudy web site. the other is at ccprep. both are excellent and should be covered in depth. Certification Zone - I bought a 6 month subscription and read as many of the white papers as I could download. I took the monthly tests and reviewed them thoroughly ( disclaimer - I occasionally am compensated for work at cert zone ) I took a weeks vacation prior to my written, and spent my final days: half with retaking the cert zone tests ( I bought the CD ) and reviewing. and the other half cramming with the exam cram book. note that the OSPF chapter sucks, the token ring chapter contains a few errors which you will recognize if you studied the other papers, but there is a chapter on the config register settings that is worth reviewing. IMHO, the CCIE written exam I saw bears quite a resemblance to the CID exam. best wishes Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thompson, Robert D Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Advice : CCIE written (R/S) [7:15005] HI All, Could any of you please advise me on anything I should concentrate my efforts on for the exam, not breaking your non disclosure with Cisco. Here is a list of what I spend a lot of time on (study wise) General Routing Advanced routing - BGP, OSPF, EIGRP (includes metrics, theory, configuration etc) Switching Multicast routing route filtering protocols (IP and IPX etc) Bridging DDR ISDN My ATM skills are only theory!!! Thanks in advance Rob CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15023t=15005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice : CCIE written (R/S) [7:15005]
Chuck is right on the money. I used nearly the same strategy for studying but did not spend enough time on the Token Ring papers. Passed anyway but could have been a little sharper on those papers. For practice tests I used Boson #1 and #2 from www.boson.com If you have taken the CID test, that is also a good way to guage if you are ready for the CCIE written. Good Luck Dennis Thompson, Robert D wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI All, Could any of you please advise me on anything I should concentrate my efforts on for the exam, not breaking your non disclosure with Cisco. Here is a list of what I spend a lot of time on (study wise) General Routing Advanced routing - BGP, OSPF, EIGRP (includes metrics, theory, configuration etc) Switching Multicast routing route filtering protocols (IP and IPX etc) Bridging DDR ISDN My ATM skills are only theory!!! Thanks in advance Rob CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15060t=15005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written R/S?
Tempted as I am to make a sarcastic remark, I find that your question has merit, and is deserving of a considered reply. Don't know how hard it is. Have only taken a couple of practice tests at certification zone. (www.certificationzone.com ) But the way I look at it, there is a reason that top sports stars make the money they make. There is a reason that CCIE's are in such demand. So I am taking the approach that even though I have passed a number of certification tests, I am still not a big leaguer. I still have a bunch to learn. About the time I joined groupstudy ( just about a year ago now ) there was a guy who went from essentially no networking experience to CCIE in less than a year. He worked at it full time, day and night. Nice work if you can get it. He no doubt is a highly intelligent and talented guy. He no doubt worked his butt off. But the point is that full time study can lead to great things if you are motivated, and if you have talent. I would guess that most folks who pass the CCIE written and a couple of years of hands on and have spent their fair share of time reading. Some say that having attained the CCNP, one should essentially be ready for the written. Others say that you still need to add a couple of key areas, such as BGP and token ring and ATM. Best thing, as always, is to print out the blueprint from CCO and let that be your guide. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/rsblueprint.html For myself, I am looking at the end of October as my test date. That would mean 6 months of preparation after my CCNP. But then I work full time, have a family, and in general find it difficult to put in more than 10 hours a week in study. Your results may vary. Best wishes to you. See you on the road there. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:CCIE Written R/S? Hi group members, CCIE written. How hard it is? How long it will take to study it, if I quit my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much time other people spent on it. Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message) Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment after I pass it (hopefully) and study for lab. I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications. Any response will be appreciated. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written R/S?
Sabeen, I studied 2/3 of the nights for 3 months. I bought the most recommended books, subscribed to Certificationzone, and went through the Cisco CD. I would say I was dissapointed at how "easy" it was, but I had a good game plan. I took the test once and got an 82% or so. I was well prepared. I copied the R+S blueprint from Cisco and went through it subject by subject. I did not read any particular book through to the end (except Interconnections by Pearlman, I couldn't put it down), just used them as a reference. Some subjects I knew well from experience, some required extensive study for me (some TR and FDDI functions, Voice signalling, etc) . I cut and pasted the main subject groups into word documents that had the objectives at the top. I would go through each of my books and look up the protocols and terms in the index, read it, and make any notes I needed. The last 2 weeks I could just read my notes to memorize frame formats and such to refresh. I started with the Internetworking Tech Handbook and to get a handle on the basics, then went to the more complex and technical references. There were alot of subjects I knew nothing about and took close to 80 pages in notes. The note taking also helped me learn, because I had to take all of those theories and put them in language on paper that I would understand. You have to (or at least I do) watch out for burnout, so I would study for 2 nights and take a night off. Only study one day on a weekend. You can still enjoy life. Even if it takes you an extra 2-3 weeks by taking nights off, you will probably be more relaxed and retain more. HTH :) Good Luck!! Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group members, CCIE written. How hard it is? How long it will take to study it, if I quit my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much time other people spent on it. Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message) Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment after I pass it (hopefully) and study for lab. I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications. Any response will be appreciated. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lawrence Dwyer, MCSE CCNA Project Officer Telemedicine Advanced Technology Research Center (301) 619-7946 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written R/S?
Any chance of a copy of your notes. Iv'e just passed CCNP and am keen to get down to the real work now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Lawrence Dwyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sabeen, I studied 2/3 of the nights for 3 months. I bought the most recommended books, subscribed to Certificationzone, and went through the Cisco CD. I would say I was dissapointed at how "easy" it was, but I had a good game plan. I took the test once and got an 82% or so. I was well prepared. I copied the R+S blueprint from Cisco and went through it subject by subject. I did not read any particular book through to the end (except Interconnections by Pearlman, I couldn't put it down), just used them as a reference. Some subjects I knew well from experience, some required extensive study for me (some TR and FDDI functions, Voice signalling, etc) . I cut and pasted the main subject groups into word documents that had the objectives at the top. I would go through each of my books and look up the protocols and terms in the index, read it, and make any notes I needed. The last 2 weeks I could just read my notes to memorize frame formats and such to refresh. I started with the Internetworking Tech Handbook and to get a handle on the basics, then went to the more complex and technical references. There were alot of subjects I knew nothing about and took close to 80 pages in notes. The note taking also helped me learn, because I had to take all of those theories and put them in language on paper that I would understand. You have to (or at least I do) watch out for burnout, so I would study for 2 nights and take a night off. Only study one day on a weekend. You can still enjoy life. Even if it takes you an extra 2-3 weeks by taking nights off, you will probably be more relaxed and retain more. HTH :) Good Luck!! Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group members, CCIE written. How hard it is? How long it will take to study it, if I quit my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much time other people spent on it. Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message) Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment after I pass it (hopefully) and study for lab. I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications. Any response will be appreciated. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lawrence Dwyer, MCSE CCNA Project Officer Telemedicine Advanced Technology Research Center (301) 619-7946 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written R/S?
Larry, What was your Cisco knowledge/experience before you embarked on your study programme? Regards, Ben --- Lawrence Dwyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sabeen, I studied 2/3 of the nights for 3 months. I bought the most recommended books, subscribed to Certificationzone, and went through the Cisco CD. I would say I was dissapointed at how "easy" it was, but I had a good game plan. I took the test once and got an 82% or so. I was well prepared. I copied the R+S blueprint from Cisco and went through it subject by subject. I did not read any particular book through to the end (except Interconnections by Pearlman, I couldn't put it down), just used them as a reference. Some subjects I knew well from experience, some required extensive study for me (some TR and FDDI functions, Voice signalling, etc) . I cut and pasted the main subject groups into word documents that had the objectives at the top. I would go through each of my books and look up the protocols and terms in the index, read it, and make any notes I needed. The last 2 weeks I could just read my notes to memorize frame formats and such to refresh. I started with the Internetworking Tech Handbook and to get a handle on the basics, then went to the more complex and technical references. There were alot of subjects I knew nothing about and took close to 80 pages in notes. The note taking also helped me learn, because I had to take all of those theories and put them in language on paper that I would understand. You have to (or at least I do) watch out for burnout, so I would study for 2 nights and take a night off. Only study one day on a weekend. You can still enjoy life. Even if it takes you an extra 2-3 weeks by taking nights off, you will probably be more relaxed and retain more. HTH :) Good Luck!! Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group members, CCIE written. How hard it is? How long it will take to study it, if I quit my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much time other people spent on it. Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message) Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment after I pass it (hopefully) and study for lab. I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications. Any response will be appreciated. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lawrence Dwyer, MCSE CCNA Project Officer Telemedicine Advanced Technology Research Center (301) 619-7946 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Ben Lovegrove, CCNP Redspan Solutions Ltd Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.redspan.com Forum: http://www.delphi.com/talknet/start/ Cisco Products, Internet Services, E-Commerce Software, URL Submissions Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written R/S?
Hi group members, CCIE written. How hard it is? How long it will take to study it, if I quit my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much time other people spent on it. Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message) Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment after I pass it (hopefully) and study for lab. I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications. Any response will be appreciated. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written R/S?
Hi, Since you are taken the same road as I did, I can tell you the following : The CCIE written is a "pain" in that sense that you can't "just" take the book and study it because there is none. So you have to find your own student stuff : the CCNP courses of course, Halabi's book for BGP, The white paper on Token Ring on CCprep, ... Before I took the written I first passed my CVOICE and CATM test (you have to know them anyway for the test so why don't you do the certification was my idea ???). I passed first blow with 76% (not skyhigh but passing nevertheless). They ask also questions about "remote" subjects : 100vganylan, X25, FDDI Hope this helps you out ... Cu Geert Hampe CCNP+Voice+ATM CCDP CCIE 2B in november [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi group members, CCIE written. How hard it is? How long it will take to study it, if I quit my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much time other people spent on it. Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message) Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment after I pass it (hopefully) and study for lab. I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications. Any response will be appreciated. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
