Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]

2002-07-15 Thread Tom Scott

Daniel Lafraia wrote:

 If the new beta exam (351-001) will have its number changed
 to 350-001 how would you know for sure if you're going to
 take the new/old one? I mean. I called Prometric and they
 said you're able to register for the 350-001 even after
 August 1st (Maybe the registration date?). I missed the beta
 by 7% and I'd like to take the old test before it's retired.

Daniel,

Those of us who are preparing for the R/S exams are in a precarious
position, but I think it's going to stabilize in a few months.

To me, the big issue is: What are we most likely to be tested on?
Officially, for legal purposes, there have been claims that we're
responsbible for the entire IOS. However, I've seen statements at
cisco.com that certain technologies like IPX and TR are no longer part
of the R/S lab exam, and I expect there are some topics that have been
excluded from the qualifying exam (for example, we only need to know
the ATM UNI on the customer side, not the network side of the UNI or
NNI). And then there's the question of what has been added.

Later this month I hope to post a summary of my findings (mainly
questions and confusions!) and the sources of my information. If
anyone wants to send me what they've found, I'll include it in my
summary.

We're trying to hit a moving target. Everything's in flux. But things
will settle down in a few months when all (most?) of the relevant URLs 
at cisco.com have been updated to reflect cisco's vision of the new 
CCIE. These are exciting times, sometimes maybe just a little too 
exciting.

-- TT
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Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]

2002-07-14 Thread Daniel Lafraia

Hello Michael,

If the new beta exam (351-001) will have its number changed
to 350-001 how would you know for sure if you're going to
take the new/old one? I mean. I called Prometric and they
said you're able to register for the 350-001 even after
August 1st (Maybe the registration date?). I missed the beta
by 7% and I'd like to take the old test before it's retired.
:)

cya
Daniel

Michael L. Williams  wrote
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  * Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S
qualifying exam
 350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but
there are no
 references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have
information
 about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a
new qualifier,
 how will it differ from the current 350-001?

 Tom,

 No offense, but have you been in a cave the past 4 months
or so?  There is a
 new version of the R/S written exam and it will taking
over the old exam
 soon.  There have been many discussions and posts
regarding the new format,
 it's difficulty, the topics, etc  Search the archives
and you'll see
 many conversations regarding the new exam.  It was indeed
numbered the
 351-001 while it was in beta, but once it takes over the
old exam, it will
 also assume the 350-001 number.

 If you're new to Groupstudy, then don't be offended at my
been in a cave
 statement. just check the archives...
 If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take
offense at my comment
 because you haven't been watching very closely if you're
asking about the
 new R/S exam this late in the game...  =)

 HTH,
 Mike W.
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Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]

2002-07-14 Thread Tom Scott

Michael L. Williams wrote:

 If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my comment
 because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about the
 new R/S exam this late in the game...  =)


No offense taken. I'm only here to learn and to better my chances of
passing the CCIE exams, not to worry about manners or lack thereof. =)

I'm not sure how you'd define new to Groupstudy, but I can confess
to at least one cardinal sin, namely, that I read some but not all of
the messages that get posted. In addition, my searching skills are
probably not as good as they should be. I searched the Professional /
Technical archives on groupstudy.com for 351-001, as that's what my
question was about. The result was:

Summary for query 351-001:
Found 0 matches in 0 files.

I didn't do too well on that one, so I went over to cisco.com and
searched for the same string. Here's what I got:

Results for: 351-001  of about 0. Search took 0.00385 seconds.

That leaves me with a question: How do I search not only the subjects
but also the body of messages in the Pro/Tech archives on Groupstudy? 
As a specific test case, how exactly would I find 351-001 in the 
message bodies? This is a sincere question. If anyone can enlighten me 
on this issue, I'd be grateful for the help.

-- TIA, TT

P.S. After posting my original message, I did find the following URL
on Google:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/RoutingBeta.html

For whatever reason, the search on cisco.com finds no matches for
351-001, but references to the URL still exist, thanks to our
friends at Google.




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Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]

2002-07-14 Thread Michael L. Williams

Tom,

I made a copy of the outline for the new RS exam... but I think it's @
work... so I'll look for it there and forward it on to you.

Mike W.

Tom Scott  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Michael L. Williams wrote:

  If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my
comment
  because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about
the
  new R/S exam this late in the game...  =)


 No offense taken. I'm only here to learn and to better my chances of
 passing the CCIE exams, not to worry about manners or lack thereof. =)

 I'm not sure how you'd define new to Groupstudy, but I can confess
 to at least one cardinal sin, namely, that I read some but not all of
 the messages that get posted. In addition, my searching skills are
 probably not as good as they should be. I searched the Professional /
 Technical archives on groupstudy.com for 351-001, as that's what my
 question was about. The result was:

 Summary for query 351-001:
 Found 0 matches in 0 files.

 I didn't do too well on that one, so I went over to cisco.com and
 searched for the same string. Here's what I got:

 Results for: 351-001  of about 0. Search took 0.00385 seconds.

 That leaves me with a question: How do I search not only the subjects
 but also the body of messages in the Pro/Tech archives on Groupstudy?
 As a specific test case, how exactly would I find 351-001 in the
 message bodies? This is a sincere question. If anyone can enlighten me
 on this issue, I'd be grateful for the help.

 -- TIA, TT

 P.S. After posting my original message, I did find the following URL
 on Google:

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/RoutingBeta.html

 For whatever reason, the search on cisco.com finds no matches for
 351-001, but references to the URL still exist, thanks to our
 friends at Google.




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CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]

2002-07-11 Thread Tom Scott

A couple questions about CCIE preparation and exams:

* There's a new book from ciscopress, to be published (I hope)
   this month: CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide.
   It appears to be a preparation not only for the R/S qualifying exam
   but also for the C/S. Is anyone familiar with the contents? Does the
   book clearly distinguish which chapters / sections are for R/S vs.
   C/S?

* Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam
   350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no
   references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information
   about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier,
   how will it differ from the current 350-001?

* A ciscopress preparation book for the R/S lab exam, CCIE Practical
   Studies, Volume 1:
   http://www.gocertify.com/article/solie.shtml
   Anyone have experience with this book? Is it reasonable to focus on
   these two books (Certification Guide and Practical Studies Vol.
   I) to prepare for the R/S qualifier and lab exams?

-- TIA, TT




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A couple questions about CCIE preparation and exams:

* There's a new book from ciscopress, to be published (I hope)
   this month: CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide.
   It appears to be a preparation not only for the R/S qualifying exam
   but also for the C/S. Is anyone familiar with the contents? Does the
   book clearly distinguish which chapters / sections are for R/S vs.
   C/S?

* Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam
   350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no
   references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information
   about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier,
   how will it differ from the current 350-001?

* A ciscopress preparation book for the R/S lab exam, CCIE Practical
   Studies, Volume 1:
   http://www.gocertify.com/article/solie.shtml
   Anyone have experience with this book? Is it reasonable to focus on
   these two books (Certification Guide and Practical Studies Vol.
   I) to prepare for the R/S qualifier and lab exams?

-- TIA, TT
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Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]

2002-07-11 Thread Michael L. Williams

Tom Scott  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 * Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam
350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no
references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information
about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier,
how will it differ from the current 350-001?

Tom,

No offense, but have you been in a cave the past 4 months or so?  There is a
new version of the R/S written exam and it will taking over the old exam
soon.  There have been many discussions and posts regarding the new format,
it's difficulty, the topics, etc  Search the archives and you'll see
many conversations regarding the new exam.  It was indeed numbered the
351-001 while it was in beta, but once it takes over the old exam, it will
also assume the 350-001 number.

If you're new to Groupstudy, then don't be offended at my been in a cave
statement. just check the archives...
If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my comment
because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about the
new R/S exam this late in the game...  =)

HTH,
Mike W.




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