CCIE token ring..

[Jit Cherng]

currently i am setting up a Cisco lab at home for CCIE preparation.. I like
to know whether is token ring is tested hard in the Lab exam??   it is in
the CCIE blueprint but nowadays i seldom see companies using token ring
networks..   like to make sure so that i don't buy the wrong
equipments.



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Re: CCIE token ring..

[Groupstudy]

DLSW is big on the lab and you will need to know all the various bridging
functionality.   Fortunately used Token-Ring equipment is cheap on eBay.
You should get a hold of 2 MAU's and a half dozen cables.  If you really
want to test them though get a couple of Token-Ring NIC's and put them in
two PC's and run Netbeui over them.

Make sure you have a 2513 or two (preferably) in your lab.

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Subject: CCIE token ring..


> currently i am setting up a Cisco lab at home for CCIE preparation.. I
like
> to know whether is token ring is tested hard in the Lab exam??   it is in
> the CCIE blueprint but nowadays i seldom see companies using token ring
> networks..   like to make sure so that i don't buy the wrong
> equipments.
>
>
>
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Re: CCIE token ring..

[Darren Crawford]

Know the Catalyst 3920.  That will be your Token Ring attachment to your
router.  MAUs are gone.  Since it's a single switch you'll need to know how to
configure different VLANs for the different ring numbers you'll have to bring
up.

Darren

At 10:29 PM 03/16/2001 +0800, Jit Cherng wrote:
>currently i am setting up a Cisco lab at home for CCIE preparation.. I like
>to know whether is token ring is tested hard in the Lab exam??   it is in
>the CCIE blueprint but nowadays i seldom see companies using token ring
>networks..   like to make sure so that i don't buy the wrong
>equipments.
>
>
>
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CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[James]

Hello

I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
does anyone know when will that be effective ?
Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
online rack access work as fine ?
any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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RE: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[Jim Brown]

Get online access for the 3900 it is enough. Be very sad they are removing
Token Ring from the lab, there are the easiest points you will receive on
the lab.

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Hello

I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
does anyone know when will that be effective ?
Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
online rack access work as fine ?
any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[nrf]

Exactly.  And the biggest question of all is what are they going to be
replacing it with.  I don't see this as making the exam easier at all.


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> Get online access for the 3900 it is enough. Be very sad they are removing
> Token Ring from the lab, there are the easiest points you will receive on
> the lab.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]
>
>
> Hello
>
> I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
> program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
> does anyone know when will that be effective ?
> Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
> does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
> buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
> online rack access work as fine ?
> any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[Jason Forrester]

Couldn't have said it better myself

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Jim Brown wrote:

> Get online access for the 3900 it is enough. Be very sad they are removing
> Token Ring from the lab, there are the easiest points you will receive on
> the lab.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]
>
> Hello
>
> I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
> program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
> does anyone know when will that be effective ?
> Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
> does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
> buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
> online rack access work as fine ?
> any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
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RE: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[George Siaw]

Guys,

Any truth in this? Cos that will be some welcoming news.

Regards,
George.



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Subject: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

Hello

I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
does anyone know when will that be effective ?
Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
online rack access work as fine ?
any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[Steven A. Ridder]

Yes.

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> Guys,
>
> Any truth in this? Cos that will be some welcoming news.
>
> Regards,
> George.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> James
> Sent: 19 March 2002 21:42
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]
>
> Hello
>
> I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
> program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
> does anyone know when will that be effective ?
> Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
> does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
> buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
> online rack access work as fine ?
> any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
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RE: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]

[Dennis Laganiere]

There's been talk about removing it from the Lab, but I doubt it'll
disappear from the written until they do a re-write.  They still have
Appletalk, DECnet and LANE on the written blueprint, and these have long
since been removed from the Lab...

--- Dennis

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Yes.

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""George Siaw""  wrote in message
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> Guys,
>
> Any truth in this? Cos that will be some welcoming news.
>
> Regards,
> George.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> James
> Sent: 19 March 2002 21:42
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCIE Token Ring [7:38863]
>
> Hello
>
> I have read in a previous post that the CCIE R/S
> program is dropping token ring stuff. Is that true or
> does anyone know when will that be effective ?
> Does anyone with experience with the lab know how much
> does the token ring stuff is needed ? Is it worth
> buying a Cat 3900 for a home lab or would getting
> online rack access work as fine ?
> any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> __
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CCIE token ring documentation and books [7:914]

[Michael Bambic]

If you really want to understand token ring look at this site:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/tokenrng.htm
Read the bridging section of the Caslow book as well as the bridging section
of the Lammle CCIE book. Between those 3 items I finally got it down. 
Caslow definitely was able to make me understand canonical address to
non-canonical address conversion. 
Lammle got me to understand the RIF decoding very well.
The Cisco page made me understand the physical topology very well.

That white paper on CCIE prep says token ring is a physical ring but a
logical bus, it's a physical star and a logical ring.
It's RIF decoding is way off and it's canonical address conversion is also
wrong.
Everything else I knew.

Mike Bambic
Lead Mentor
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602-955-5888
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RE: CCIE token ring documentation and books [7:914]

[Irwin Lazar]

I've also got some Token Ring info at www.itprc.com/datalink.htm.  The Token
Ring FAQ is pretty good.

BTW, it still amazes me how much TR there is out there in the world.  One of
our larger enterprise customers still has 20-30% of their PC's on token
ring.  Of course, they now want to run full-motion video to those desktops.
:-)

Irwin

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> 
> 
> If you really want to understand token ring look at this site:
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/tokenrng.htm
> Read the bridging section of the Caslow book as well as the 
> bridging section
> of the Lammle CCIE book. Between those 3 items I finally got it down. 
> Caslow definitely was able to make me understand canonical address to
> non-canonical address conversion. 
> Lammle got me to understand the RIF decoding very well.
> The Cisco page made me understand the physical topology very well.
> 
> That white paper on CCIE prep says token ring is a physical ring but a
> logical bus, it's a physical star and a logical ring.
> It's RIF decoding is way off and it's canonical address 
> conversion is also
> wrong.
> Everything else I knew.
> 
> Mike Bambic
> Lead Mentor
> Phoenix Branch
> 602-955-5888
> Cisco Regional Business Development Manager
> TechSkills
> www.techskills.com
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RE: CCIE token ring documentation and books [7:914]

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>I've also got some Token Ring info at www.itprc.com/datalink.htm.  The Token
>Ring FAQ is pretty good.
>
>BTW, it still amazes me how much TR there is out there in the world.  One of
>our larger enterprise customers still has 20-30% of their PC's on token
>ring.  Of course, they now want to run full-motion video to those desktops.
>:-)
>
>Irwin

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity, or human resistance 
to change.

Have you suggested they just send a fixed image and watch the token 
ring spin it around?

(For all the fun I poke at it, I really think that token ring has 
some very elegant design features. But the market no longer accepts 
it and it is too expensive.  Reminiscent, vaguely, of Beta versus 
VHS).
>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Michael Bambic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:20 AM
>>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Subject: CCIE token ring documentation and books [7:914]
>>
>>
>>  If you really want to understand token ring look at this site:
>>  http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/tokenrng.htm
>>  Read the bridging section of the Caslow book as well as the
>>  bridging section
>>  of the Lammle CCIE book. Between those 3 items I finally got it down.
>>  Caslow definitely was able to make me understand canonical address to
>>  non-canonical address conversion.
>>  Lammle got me to understand the RIF decoding very well.
>>  The Cisco page made me understand the physical topology very well.
>>
>>  That white paper on CCIE prep says token ring is a physical ring but a
>>  logical bus, it's a physical star and a logical ring.
>>  It's RIF decoding is way off and it's canonical address
>>  conversion is also
>>  wrong.
>>  Everything else I knew.
>>
>>  Mike Bambic
>>  Lead Mentor
>>  Phoenix Branch
>>  602-955-5888
>>  Cisco Regional Business Development Manager
>>  TechSkills
>>  www.techskills.com
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