RE: Technical Book Editing - WAS: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
FYI - from Amazon Internet Performance Survival Guide by Geoff Huston, et al. Paperback (March 15, 2000) Our Price:$34.99 Isp Survival Guide : Strategies for Running a Competitive Isp by Geoff Huston. Paperback (November 1998) Our Price:$34.99 Quality of Service : Delivering Qos on the Internet and in Corporate Networks by Paul Ferguson, Geoff Huston. Paperback (January 1998) Our Price:$31.99 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Technical Book Editing - WAS: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book >This is a topic maddening to all involved. Some things are preventable. Some >aren't. Some things there is no excuse for. > >Long past history, but the first edition of the Syngress CCNA book had some >rather egregious errors - wrong network numbers and the like. I no longer >have the book, but I recall one where the question talked about subnet X and >the only answers were subnets A, B, and C. And I mean whole classes of >networks wrong. > >I'm currently reading a very good book called Quality of Service by Paul >Ferguson and Geoff Huston. Both authorities in the field. I've coauthored RFC2071 with Paul, who is a consulting engineer for Cisco, and Geoff is another author in the Wiley Networking Council series. He's the technical guru for Telstra in Australia. Geoff has a newer book that goes beyond the Quality of Service book, dealing with ISP performance issues. >What mars my enjoyment are a number of simple >spelling errors - fat finger kinds of things. It is as if the editor just >decided not to use his spell checker because of all the technical terms it >would choke on. The result is quite unprofessional. > >I have even found a technical error or two in books by some rather well >known participants in this group. > >These things do not necessarily diminish the value of these sources. But >they can lead to a lot of frustration, particularly among folks just >starting out. > >Chuck Since I'm in the process of turning in the final copy edit today for my new book, The WAN Survival Guide, believe me, I know there can be errors. And I caught a few things my copy editor didn't. My technical reviewer is Scott Bradner, but there are some things that even he didn't spot. Frankly, this is one reason I prefer writing things on the design side -- the concepts are important, and there's less of a danger of screwing up things by getting a command syntax wrong. There's no simple answer. An author can proof his own work only to a certain extent. Your eye sees what you meant, not necessarily what you wrote. At the larger publishers, you can't expect the copy editor to spot technical problems. One of the nice things about CertificationZone is that Erik Roy, Ken Fleming, and Rob Roy, who are at varying stages of the editing process, are getting familiar enough with the subject matter to backstop me. Even though RFCs literally are read by dozens of experts while being drafted, there can be bugs that don't show up until implementation. It certainly doesn't help when the real exam is looking for an answer that is technically wrong, but was taken from the Cisco courseware. The best I can suggest, in exam studies, is never to rely on one source alone. If for no other than it's easier to learn something presented from one viewpoint, it's a good idea not to depend on a single book. Don't be afraid to go back and verify things in the original standards. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Book Editing - WAS: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
>This is a topic maddening to all involved. Some things are preventable. Some >aren't. Some things there is no excuse for. > >Long past history, but the first edition of the Syngress CCNA book had some >rather egregious errors - wrong network numbers and the like. I no longer >have the book, but I recall one where the question talked about subnet X and >the only answers were subnets A, B, and C. And I mean whole classes of >networks wrong. > >I'm currently reading a very good book called Quality of Service by Paul >Ferguson and Geoff Huston. Both authorities in the field. I've coauthored RFC2071 with Paul, who is a consulting engineer for Cisco, and Geoff is another author in the Wiley Networking Council series. He's the technical guru for Telstra in Australia. Geoff has a newer book that goes beyond the Quality of Service book, dealing with ISP performance issues. >What mars my enjoyment are a number of simple >spelling errors - fat finger kinds of things. It is as if the editor just >decided not to use his spell checker because of all the technical terms it >would choke on. The result is quite unprofessional. > >I have even found a technical error or two in books by some rather well >known participants in this group. > >These things do not necessarily diminish the value of these sources. But >they can lead to a lot of frustration, particularly among folks just >starting out. > >Chuck Since I'm in the process of turning in the final copy edit today for my new book, The WAN Survival Guide, believe me, I know there can be errors. And I caught a few things my copy editor didn't. My technical reviewer is Scott Bradner, but there are some things that even he didn't spot. Frankly, this is one reason I prefer writing things on the design side -- the concepts are important, and there's less of a danger of screwing up things by getting a command syntax wrong. There's no simple answer. An author can proof his own work only to a certain extent. Your eye sees what you meant, not necessarily what you wrote. At the larger publishers, you can't expect the copy editor to spot technical problems. One of the nice things about CertificationZone is that Erik Roy, Ken Fleming, and Rob Roy, who are at varying stages of the editing process, are getting familiar enough with the subject matter to backstop me. Even though RFCs literally are read by dozens of experts while being drafted, there can be bugs that don't show up until implementation. It certainly doesn't help when the real exam is looking for an answer that is technically wrong, but was taken from the Cisco courseware. The best I can suggest, in exam studies, is never to rely on one source alone. If for no other than it's easier to learn something presented from one viewpoint, it's a good idea not to depend on a single book. Don't be afraid to go back and verify things in the original standards. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Book Editing - WAS: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
This is a topic maddening to all involved. Some things are preventable. Some aren't. Some things there is no excuse for. Long past history, but the first edition of the Syngress CCNA book had some rather egregious errors - wrong network numbers and the like. I no longer have the book, but I recall one where the question talked about subnet X and the only answers were subnets A, B, and C. And I mean whole classes of networks wrong. I'm currently reading a very good book called Quality of Service by Paul Ferguson and Geoff Huston. What mars my enjoyment are a number of simple spelling errors - fat finger kinds of things. It is as if the editor just decided not to use his spell checker because of all the technical terms it would choke on. The result is quite unprofessional. I have even found a technical error or two in books by some rather well known participants in this group. These things do not necessarily diminish the value of these sources. But they can lead to a lot of frustration, particularly among folks just starting out. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 11:33 AM To: Kenneth; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book I wish that I had a copy of 507 here to see the error - can you provide the specifics for all? Todd did not include an RJ-45 pinout in 407. I have a feeling that the error is not in 407 regarding F/R - a quick look failed to note it. As an author I appreciate the concession regarding typos - unfortunately they can still confuse new readers - but I can say that with the authors, technical editors, copy editors, and proofreaders that every attempt is made to prevent them. --- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > There are a lot of errors on this book I agree. > Here's 2 of them I > can think of off the top of my head without looking > at the book: > > 1) The pinouts on the RJ-45 > 2) The frame relay example on multi-point (i think, > or was it > point-to-point). > > I think it's mostly typo but someone who's not > familiar with it might > take it as it is. Other than occassional typos, I > think the book is > very good. > > > "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Marco - > > > > Would you please provide an example or two to the > > group. I have worked with Todd for many years, and > > while folks may take issue with writing styles, I > find > > it difficult to believe that 'Mr. CCNA' would have > > many errors. The guy has trained hundreds to pass > the > > test and understand the material. If there are > errors, > > then please do all of us a favor and call them out > to > > augment the learning process. > > > > Thanks. > > > > --- Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is > very > > > poorly > > > written. Luckily I have some previous experience > and > > > wasn't relying on > > > this as an actual informative source. There are > some > > > many mistakes, that > > > are not even in the errata. > > > > > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of > > > information for > > > the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers > on > > > certificationzone.com > > > and they are very well written and informative. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > --- > > > Marco Paulo Rodrigues > > > Unix Administrator > > > Axxent Corporation > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ > > > Cisco: CCDA > > > --- > > > > > > "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the > > > systems of one > > > company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet > > > Generation." > > > - Marco Rodrigues '99 > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > = > > Robert Padjen > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Kic
Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
there's one more I just saw right now: 1) Diagram on page 507 should show TE2 going to a TA instead of going into another NT1 kenneth "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I wish that I had a copy of 507 here to see the error > - can you provide the specifics for all? Todd did not > include an RJ-45 pinout in 407. I have a feeling that > the error is not in 407 regarding F/R - a quick look > failed to note it. > > As an author I appreciate the concession regarding > typos - unfortunately they can still confuse new > readers - but I can say that with the authors, > technical editors, copy editors, and proofreaders that > every attempt is made to prevent them. > > --- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > There are a lot of errors on this book I agree. > > Here's 2 of them I > > can think of off the top of my head without looking > > at the book: > > > > 1) The pinouts on the RJ-45 > > 2) The frame relay example on multi-point (i think, > > or was it > > point-to-point). > > > > I think it's mostly typo but someone who's not > > familiar with it might > > take it as it is. Other than occassional typos, I > > think the book is > > very good. > > > > > > "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > > message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Marco - > > > > > > Would you please provide an example or two to the > > > group. I have worked with Todd for many years, and > > > while folks may take issue with writing styles, I > > find > > > it difficult to believe that 'Mr. CCNA' would have > > > many errors. The guy has trained hundreds to pass > > the > > > test and understand the material. If there are > > errors, > > > then please do all of us a favor and call them out > > to > > > augment the learning process. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > --- Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is > > very > > > > poorly > > > > written. Luckily I have some previous experience > > and > > > > wasn't relying on > > > > this as an actual informative source. There are > > some > > > > many mistakes, that > > > > are not even in the errata. > > > > > > > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of > > > > information for > > > > the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers > > on > > > > certificationzone.com > > > > and they are very well written and informative. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Marco Paulo Rodrigues > > > > Unix Administrator > > > > Axxent Corporation > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ > > > > Cisco: CCDA > > > > --- > > > > > > > > "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the > > > > systems of one > > > > company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet > > > > Generation." > > > > - Marco Rodrigues '99 > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > > to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > = > > > Robert Padjen > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, > > list archives, and > > > subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and > > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: PGP 6.5.3 > > > > > iQA/AwUBOY1ZAksuAOj4uCP1EQJU/gCeMPGLf/0mtyYPLj/GDEzQtO9VReYAnjQI > > qCxsepOROBu+bRjpuvqpX3Zb > > =GgfF > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
Yeah, it's the 507 and here are the pages: 1) page 40 = RJ-45 connector pinouts --> it shows from 8-1, should've been 1-8. It's ok if it was done this way with a straight cable (although unrecommended) but he showed the crossover cable pinouts in the non-reversed order. 2) page 499 = int s0.16 point-to-point --> I think this should have been multi-point... 3) page 457 = router(config)#ipx input-sap-filter ---> he should have included the access-list number as in: ipx input-sap-filter list# to show the reader that there is parameters to be entered after the command. Hope this helps. Kenneth "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I wish that I had a copy of 507 here to see the error > - can you provide the specifics for all? Todd did not > include an RJ-45 pinout in 407. I have a feeling that > the error is not in 407 regarding F/R - a quick look > failed to note it. > > As an author I appreciate the concession regarding > typos - unfortunately they can still confuse new > readers - but I can say that with the authors, > technical editors, copy editors, and proofreaders that > every attempt is made to prevent them. > > --- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > There are a lot of errors on this book I agree. > > Here's 2 of them I > > can think of off the top of my head without looking > > at the book: > > > > 1) The pinouts on the RJ-45 > > 2) The frame relay example on multi-point (i think, > > or was it > > point-to-point). > > > > I think it's mostly typo but someone who's not > > familiar with it might > > take it as it is. Other than occassional typos, I > > think the book is > > very good. > > > > > > "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > > message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Marco - > > > > > > Would you please provide an example or two to the > > > group. I have worked with Todd for many years, and > > > while folks may take issue with writing styles, I > > find > > > it difficult to believe that 'Mr. CCNA' would have > > > many errors. The guy has trained hundreds to pass > > the > > > test and understand the material. If there are > > errors, > > > then please do all of us a favor and call them out > > to > > > augment the learning process. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > --- Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is > > very > > > > poorly > > > > written. Luckily I have some previous experience > > and > > > > wasn't relying on > > > > this as an actual informative source. There are > > some > > > > many mistakes, that > > > > are not even in the errata. > > > > > > > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of > > > > information for > > > > the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers > > on > > > > certificationzone.com > > > > and they are very well written and informative. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Marco Paulo Rodrigues > > > > Unix Administrator > > > > Axxent Corporation > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ > > > > Cisco: CCDA > > > > --- > > > > > > > > "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the > > > > systems of one > > > > company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet > > > > Generation." > > > > - Marco Rodrigues '99 > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > > to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > = > > > Robert Padjen > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, > > list archives, and > > > subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and > > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: PGP 6.5.3 > > > > > iQA/AwUBOY1ZAksuAOj4uCP1EQJU/gCeMPGLf/0mtyYPLj/GDEzQtO9VReYAnjQI > > qCxsepOROBu+bRjpuvqpX3Zb > > =GgfF > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > U
Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
I wish that I had a copy of 507 here to see the error - can you provide the specifics for all? Todd did not include an RJ-45 pinout in 407. I have a feeling that the error is not in 407 regarding F/R - a quick look failed to note it. As an author I appreciate the concession regarding typos - unfortunately they can still confuse new readers - but I can say that with the authors, technical editors, copy editors, and proofreaders that every attempt is made to prevent them. --- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > There are a lot of errors on this book I agree. > Here's 2 of them I > can think of off the top of my head without looking > at the book: > > 1) The pinouts on the RJ-45 > 2) The frame relay example on multi-point (i think, > or was it > point-to-point). > > I think it's mostly typo but someone who's not > familiar with it might > take it as it is. Other than occassional typos, I > think the book is > very good. > > > "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Marco - > > > > Would you please provide an example or two to the > > group. I have worked with Todd for many years, and > > while folks may take issue with writing styles, I > find > > it difficult to believe that 'Mr. CCNA' would have > > many errors. The guy has trained hundreds to pass > the > > test and understand the material. If there are > errors, > > then please do all of us a favor and call them out > to > > augment the learning process. > > > > Thanks. > > > > --- Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is > very > > > poorly > > > written. Luckily I have some previous experience > and > > > wasn't relying on > > > this as an actual informative source. There are > some > > > many mistakes, that > > > are not even in the errata. > > > > > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of > > > information for > > > the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers > on > > > certificationzone.com > > > and they are very well written and informative. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > --- > > > Marco Paulo Rodrigues > > > Unix Administrator > > > Axxent Corporation > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ > > > Cisco: CCDA > > > --- > > > > > > "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the > > > systems of one > > > company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet > > > Generation." > > > - Marco Rodrigues '99 > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > = > > Robert Padjen > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, > list archives, and > > subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: PGP 6.5.3 > > iQA/AwUBOY1ZAksuAOj4uCP1EQJU/gCeMPGLf/0mtyYPLj/GDEzQtO9VReYAnjQI > qCxsepOROBu+bRjpuvqpX3Zb > =GgfF > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are a lot of errors on this book I agree. Here's 2 of them I can think of off the top of my head without looking at the book: 1) The pinouts on the RJ-45 2) The frame relay example on multi-point (i think, or was it point-to-point). I think it's mostly typo but someone who's not familiar with it might take it as it is. Other than occassional typos, I think the book is very good. "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Marco - > > Would you please provide an example or two to the > group. I have worked with Todd for many years, and > while folks may take issue with writing styles, I find > it difficult to believe that 'Mr. CCNA' would have > many errors. The guy has trained hundreds to pass the > test and understand the material. If there are errors, > then please do all of us a favor and call them out to > augment the learning process. > > Thanks. > > --- Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is very > > poorly > > written. Luckily I have some previous experience and > > wasn't relying on > > this as an actual informative source. There are some > > many mistakes, that > > are not even in the errata. > > > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of > > information for > > the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers on > > certificationzone.com > > and they are very well written and informative. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > --- > > Marco Paulo Rodrigues > > Unix Administrator > > Axxent Corporation > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ > > Cisco: CCDA > > --- > > > > "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the > > systems of one > > company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet > > Generation." > > - Marco Rodrigues '99 > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and > subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 iQA/AwUBOY1ZAksuAOj4uCP1EQJU/gCeMPGLf/0mtyYPLj/GDEzQtO9VReYAnjQI qCxsepOROBu+bRjpuvqpX3Zb =GgfF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
Marco - Would you please provide an example or two to the group. I have worked with Todd for many years, and while folks may take issue with writing styles, I find it difficult to believe that 'Mr. CCNA' would have many errors. The guy has trained hundreds to pass the test and understand the material. If there are errors, then please do all of us a favor and call them out to augment the learning process. Thanks. --- Marco Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is very > poorly > written. Luckily I have some previous experience and > wasn't relying on > this as an actual informative source. There are some > many mistakes, that > are not even in the errata. > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of > information for > the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers on > certificationzone.com > and they are very well written and informative. > > Thanks! > > -- > Regards, > > --- > Marco Paulo Rodrigues > Unix Administrator > Axxent Corporation > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ > Cisco: CCDA > --- > > "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the > systems of one > company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet > Generation." > - Marco Rodrigues '99 > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
I would recommend reading Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices for the 507 exam. Also, if you didn't purchase the Lammle book as "an actual informative source" then what did you buy it for? Expensive paper weight I'd say! :) Roman At 09:38 AM 8/5/00 -0400, you wrote: > Not be to rude or anything, but this book is very poorly >written. Luckily I have some previous experience and wasn't relying on >this as an actual informative source. There are some many mistakes, that >are not even in the errata. > > Can anyone out there recommend another source of information for >the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers on certificationzone.com >and they are very well written and informative. > >Thanks! > >-- >Regards, > >--- >Marco Paulo Rodrigues >Unix Administrator >Axxent Corporation >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ >Cisco: CCDA >--- > >"Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the systems of one >company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet Generation." >- Marco Rodrigues '99 > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA v2.0 Todd Lammle Book
Not be to rude or anything, but this book is very poorly written. Luckily I have some previous experience and wasn't relying on this as an actual informative source. There are some many mistakes, that are not even in the errata. Can anyone out there recommend another source of information for the 507 exam? I'm reading all the white papers on certificationzone.com and they are very well written and informative. Thanks! -- Regards, --- Marco Paulo Rodrigues Unix Administrator Axxent Corporation Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CompTia: A+, Network+, i-Net+ Cisco: CCDA --- "Virtually All Internet Porno flows through the systems of one company. Cisco Systems. Imporning the Internet Generation." - Marco Rodrigues '99 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
