CID help needed [7:37854]

2002-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody
point me out where to find it ?  Or mail it to me ?

Cheers and thanx in advanced

Ronald

The Netherlands




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RE: CID help needed [7:37854]

2002-03-11 Thread Hire, Ejay

go to www.cisco.com  Click technical documents.  Look 1/2 way down on the
left hand side.  Internetwork Design Guide..

top down network design is also a good book, (you'll have to buy it) and the
internetworking case studies are helpful in finding the cisco way of doing
things.

-eh

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Hi all,

I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody
point me out where to find it ?  Or mail it to me ?

Cheers and thanx in advanced

Ronald

The Netherlands




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Re: CID help needed [7:37854]

2002-03-11 Thread Adrian

Here is a link to www.amazon.com that has the book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578701716/qid=1015901893/sr=1-3/ref=
sr_1_3/104-1616250-9067969

Adrian

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 Hi all,

 I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody
 point me out where to find it ?  Or mail it to me ?

 Cheers and thanx in advanced

 Ronald

 The Netherlands




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Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review

2000-12-16 Thread John Huston

While the CID test is challenging, it is easily passed if the complete and
well presented material is available to learn from.  I noticed that Boson
responded quickly by revising their tests. Perhaps Sybex will quickly
respond with additions and corrections that can be downloaded.  In a rapidly
changing environment like IT/IS it would seem best to have the ability to be
adaptive and informative.

Robert's response to my message indicated that I was making a personal
critique rather than a review of the book.  I am sorry if my communication
gives this impression.  Again, my reason for advising about the book is to
help others in this forum who like me are here to learn from mistakes, share
experiences and then build upon them.  While this forum isn't perfect, it
does an excellent job of convenient cooperative learning.  My remarks were
not scathing, just factual.

As to Robert's request to give a more detailed critique of the book, I am
not completely familiar with the Cisco's Non-Disclosure Agreement but would
assume that I/we would be violation of the agreement to do a
question-by-question comparison of the exam to the material of the book in a
public or private forum.  Rather, I suggest that Robert re-take the 640-025
exam and then respond with the additions and corrections to the book that
could be easily obtained. Outside of that, I am available on a fee basis.
;-)

I further suggest to Robert/Sybex that the phrase on outside cover and on
page xxix "Everything You Need to Know to Pass the Cisco Internetwork Design
Exam" be removed.  Considering Robert's qualifying remarks to me, probably
supports the need to do this.  This was not my experience and evidently not
so for others as well.

I did find the book easy to read but, lacked the necessary content to pass
the 640-025 exam which has been my experience with Sybex books written for
Cisco exams.  On the hand,  I have had positive experiences using Sybex
books while pursing my CNE and MSCE certifications.  The Sybex book for the
Microsoft Exchange 5.5 exam was so well written that I was able to read it
in a week and then pass the exam without any other material.

Happy Holidays.




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.net...
 I echo John's comments.  While I didn't have the
 ciscopress book, I did have the official course
 materials from the CID class I took in 98.  However, I
 took the exam in September 00 so I bought the Sybex book
 for review.  While it did discuss X.25, SNA,  the
 StrataCom Line, the exam asked questions that were
 simply not in the text.  Boson was a little more in
 depth and the course material provided a little more
 information for me.  But again, there were a few
 questions that were simply not covered in the three
 items I used to prepare myself for the exam.  Still
 passed with a slightly lower score than I was achieving
 on the other Cisco exams.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  John Huston
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:48 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review
 
 
  Caveat Emptor.  Quick and dirty review after taking
 the test.
 
  With all due respect to the author(s), I do not
 recommend the
  Sybex book
  mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test.
 
  The book is deficient in the areas of  X.25, SNA,
 Campus Lan Design,
  Desktop Protocol Design, Wan  Design and especially
 security.  I do
  recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the
 areas that
  I was tested
  over are adequately covered and in greater detail.
 This is
  the second Sybex
  book that I have purchased that is inadequate.  I
 found Sybex
  is good for
  Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero
 for Cisco.
 
  Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct
 content.
 
  Recommendation.  Unless you must pass the 640-025 test
 soon,
  I would wait
  until the self study material catches up with the new
 CID
  test.  Until then
  make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco
  Internetwork Design* by
  Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via
 the program at
  www.openwindow.com.  The attached links will help you
 with
  your studies over
  SNA.  There are probably more and better links but
 these are
  the ones that I
  have found so far.
 
  Good Luck,
 
  John Huston
  A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 message
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly
   biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it
   covers the material well and I've not received any
   significant negatives, other than a desire that I had
   put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the
   material needed for the exam is present on these
   topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems,
   along with other newer technologies, as oppose

RE: CID help/Sybex Book Review

2000-12-15 Thread f_a_name

I echo John's comments.  While I didn't have the 
ciscopress book, I did have the official course 
materials from the CID class I took in 98.  However, I 
took the exam in September 00 so I bought the Sybex book 
for review.  While it did discuss X.25, SNA,  the 
StrataCom Line, the exam asked questions that were 
simply not in the text.  Boson was a little more in 
depth and the course material provided a little more 
information for me.  But again, there were a few 
questions that were simply not covered in the three 
items I used to prepare myself for the exam.  Still 
passed with a slightly lower score than I was achieving 
on the other Cisco exams.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 John Huston
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review
 
 
 Caveat Emptor.  Quick and dirty review after taking 
the test.
 
 With all due respect to the author(s), I do not 
recommend the 
 Sybex book
 mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test.
 
 The book is deficient in the areas of  X.25, SNA,  
Campus Lan Design,
 Desktop Protocol Design, Wan  Design and especially 
security.  I do
 recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the 
areas that 
 I was tested
 over are adequately covered and in greater detail.  
This is 
 the second Sybex
 book that I have purchased that is inadequate.  I 
found Sybex 
 is good for
 Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero 
for Cisco.
 
 Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct 
content.
 
 Recommendation.  Unless you must pass the 640-025 test 
soon, 
 I would wait
 until the self study material catches up with the new 
CID 
 test.  Until then
 make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco 
 Internetwork Design* by
 Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via 
the program at
 www.openwindow.com.  The attached links will help you 
with 
 your studies over
 SNA.  There are probably more and better links but 
these are 
 the ones that I
 have found so far.
 
 Good Luck,
 
 John Huston
 A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 
message
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly
  biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it
  covers the material well and I've not received any
  significant negatives, other than a desire that I had
  put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the
  material needed for the exam is present on these
  topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems,
  along with other newer technologies, as opposed to
  rehashing older ones.
 
  Good luck.
 
  --- Jeff McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it 
somewhere
  
   What would you say is the best study book for DPs
   CID test?  I usually use
   examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied
   other
   materials...something comperable to the examcram in
   terms of concise prep
   would be what Im looking for.  Any suggestions?
  
  
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Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review

2000-12-13 Thread John Huston

Caveat Emptor.  Quick and dirty review after taking the test.

With all due respect to the author(s), I do not recommend the Sybex book
mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test.

The book is deficient in the areas of  X.25, SNA,  Campus Lan Design,
Desktop Protocol Design, Wan  Design and especially security.  I do
recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the areas that I was tested
over are adequately covered and in greater detail.  This is the second Sybex
book that I have purchased that is inadequate.  I found Sybex is good for
Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero for Cisco.

Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct content.

Recommendation.  Unless you must pass the 640-025 test soon, I would wait
until the self study material catches up with the new CID test.  Until then
make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco Internetwork Design* by
Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via the program at
www.openwindow.com.  The attached links will help you with your studies over
SNA.  There are probably more and better links but these are the ones that I
have found so far.

Good Luck,

John Huston
A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly
 biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it
 covers the material well and I've not received any
 significant negatives, other than a desire that I had
 put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the
 material needed for the exam is present on these
 topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems,
 along with other newer technologies, as opposed to
 rehashing older ones.

 Good luck.

 --- Jeff McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere
 
  What would you say is the best study book for DPs
  CID test?  I usually use
  examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied
  other
  materials...something comperable to the examcram in
  terms of concise prep
  would be what Im looking for.  Any suggestions?
 
 
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CID help

2000-11-14 Thread Jeff McCoy

Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere

What would you say is the best study book for DPs CID test?  I usually use
examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied other
materials...something comperable to the examcram in terms of concise prep
would be what Im looking for.  Any suggestions?


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Re: CID help

2000-11-14 Thread Sophie

According to the suggestions of the Cisco groupstudy, the Cisco Internetwork
Design of Cisco Press is good of CID exam. I am preparing CID with this
book, and also use Robert Padjen's Cisco Internetwork Design Study Guide of
Sybex to complete the study.

Sophie

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 Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere

 What would you say is the best study book for DPs CID test?  I usually use
 examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied other
 materials...something comperable to the examcram in terms of concise prep
 would be what Im looking for.  Any suggestions?


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RE: CID help

2000-11-14 Thread Sheahan, Ryan

I have to agree.  The Sybex along with the Boson Exams are more than enough.

my .02 cents

Ryan Sheahan 
Network Engineer CCNP, CCDP, NCAE
Greenwhich Technology Partners


-Original Message-
From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:26 PM
To: Jeff McCoy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID help


Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly
biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it
covers the material well and I've not received any
significant negatives, other than a desire that I had
put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the
material needed for the exam is present on these
topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems,
along with other newer technologies, as opposed to
rehashing older ones.

Good luck.

--- Jeff McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere
 
 What would you say is the best study book for DPs
 CID test?  I usually use
 examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied
 other
 materials...something comperable to the examcram in
 terms of concise prep
 would be what Im looking for.  Any suggestions?
 
 
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Re: CID help

2000-11-14 Thread Robert Padjen

Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly
biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it
covers the material well and I've not received any
significant negatives, other than a desire that I had
put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the
material needed for the exam is present on these
topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems,
along with other newer technologies, as opposed to
rehashing older ones.

Good luck.

--- Jeff McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere
 
 What would you say is the best study book for DPs
 CID test?  I usually use
 examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied
 other
 materials...something comperable to the examcram in
 terms of concise prep
 would be what Im looking for.  Any suggestions?
 
 
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Re: CID Help needed

2000-10-28 Thread Mohammed Hakim

Hello Mr. Robert,

I have bought you book (CID Study Guide) today .. I have a fast review I say
Very good .. even you give more detail of the job of a network designer
(some question Mrs. Priscilla help me with a good answers).
I will use your book with the Cisco CID books "still waiting for a the Cisco
design books :) "

Thanks,
Mohammed Hakim CCNA R/S

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From: Robert Padjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Omer Ehsan Dar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: CID Help needed


 With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;)
 Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide
 - it is a solid reference and she is a good writer.
 She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My
 book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today
 - note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I
 have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well,
 including Priscilla's kind words.

 --- Omer Ehsan Dar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Friends,
  I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am
  studying from the cisco
  press book which I have heard does not cover all the
  topics from the
  exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
  thanks.
  Omer Ehsan Dar
 
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RE: CID Help needed

2000-10-27 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: CID Help needed





Robert, I ordered your book but have not received it as of yet. Do you feel that you cover the Stratacom topics well enough? Or will I have to find material on this topic elsewhere? This seems to be the biggest complaint on this test. 

Thanks!


Rik Guyler


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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:18 PM
To: Omer Ehsan Dar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID Help needed



With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;)
Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide
- it is a solid reference and she is a good writer.
She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My
book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today
- note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I
have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well,
including Priscilla's kind words.


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 I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am
 studying from the cisco
 press book which I have heard does not cover all the
 topics from the
 exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
 thanks.
 Omer Ehsan Dar
 
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CID Help needed

2000-10-26 Thread Omer Ehsan Dar

Dear Friends,
I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am studying from the cisco
press book which I have heard does not cover all the topics from the
exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
thanks.
Omer Ehsan Dar

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RE: CID Help needed

2000-10-26 Thread Barnhill, Don

Omer,
I used the Todd Lammle book from Sybex along with the CID tests from Boson.
I found the tests very helpful in helping me focus in certain areas and fill
in gaps from the book.  I passed the test last night with a 79%!!
Good luck,
Don


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Dear Friends,
I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am studying from the cisco
press book which I have heard does not cover all the topics from the
exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
thanks.
Omer Ehsan Dar

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Re: CID Help needed

2000-10-26 Thread Robert Padjen

With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;)
Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide
- it is a solid reference and she is a good writer.
She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My
book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today
- note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I
have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well,
including Priscilla's kind words.

--- Omer Ehsan Dar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am
 studying from the cisco
 press book which I have heard does not cover all the
 topics from the
 exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
 thanks.
 Omer Ehsan Dar
 
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Re: CID Help needed

2000-10-25 Thread NeoLink2000

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 Dear Friends,
 I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am studying from the cisco
 press book which I have heard does not cover all the topics from the
 exam point of view. Any input will be helpful.
 thanks.
 Omer Ehsan Dar
 

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