Re: colt tests
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl You need a CCO login in order to get to the exams. They do give a good grasp of the what you can expect on the tests... Break a leg - Original Message - From: "John Slezak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: colt tests > Hi does anyone know the url where I can get the colt tests? > > Thanks, John > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
colt tests
Hi does anyone know the url where I can get the colt tests? Thanks, John _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the url of the COLT tests?
Good Morning! I have been doing a search for the colt tests and I can't seem to find out anything on these. Does anyone know the url where these tests are located? Thanks in advance.. - Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COLT tests
Here's the link, it requires CCO login. http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl Vern Stitt ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COLT tests
Hi Groupies, I am trying to access these COLT tests after reading about them in these mails. I tried in the cisco site. I am not able to locate it. Can someone send me the URL. Thanks in advance, Sudarshan --- Jim Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did the same thing of my BSCN test, and had similar results. But I > ended > up scoring well over 900 on the actual test. I basically use the Colt > tests > to get me used to the Cisco way of asking questions (phrasing, etc.). > Prior > to that, I use something like Boson to make sure I have hit the right > topics > in my studies and to point out gaps in my knowledge. > > ---JRE--- > > ""Ejay Hire"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a > pre-assesment for > > taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real > thing > and > > should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing > that > > they really are as awful as I thought they were. > > > > Whew! > > -Ejay > > > > > > Original Message Follows > > From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: COLT tests > > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT > > > > I think I have to agree. > > > > I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite > using the > > book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions > I > missed > > were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco > Press). The > > test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have > multiple > > correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there > are > > literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you > are > allowed > > to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for > me, but > > this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lance > > > > > > >From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: COLT tests > > >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 > > > > > >COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. > I > counted > > >over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct > answers > > >listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try > to get > > >through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are > not on > the > > >real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous > questions, > > >badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they > require > a > > >Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has > made > any > > >attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is > that they > > >are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some > were > > >paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. > It is my > > >belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather > some > hired > > >third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking > about > > >(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real > embarrassment > to > > >Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even > showing > > >the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this > resourse > to > > >make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just > use it > as > > >a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The > real > exam > > >has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the > assessment > > >exams do. > > > > > >Regards, > > >MLC > > > "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > >8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login > users. > No > > >charge, excellent rescource! > > > "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > >C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01"&
RE: COLT tests
This is the perfect test for practicing. It goes beyond the regular tests by making your question what you know or think is right. If you can fail this test with absolute confidence then you are ready for the real thing. -Original Message- From: Jim Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: COLT tests I did the same thing of my BSCN test, and had similar results. But I ended up scoring well over 900 on the actual test. I basically use the Colt tests to get me used to the Cisco way of asking questions (phrasing, etc.). Prior to that, I use something like Boson to make sure I have hit the right topics in my studies and to point out gaps in my knowledge. ---JRE--- ""Ejay Hire"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for > taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing and > should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing that > they really are as awful as I thought they were. > > Whew! > -Ejay > > > Original Message Follows > From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: COLT tests > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT > > I think I have to agree. > > I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the > book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I missed > were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). The > test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple > correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are > literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are allowed > to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but > this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. > > Cheers, > > Lance > > > >From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: COLT tests > >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 > > > >COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I counted > >over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers > >listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get > >through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on the > >real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions, > >badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require a > >Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made any > >attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they > >are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were > >paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my > >belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some hired > >third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about > >(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to > >Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing > >the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to > >make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as > >a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam > >has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment > >exams do. > > > >Regards, > >MLC > > "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No > >charge, excellent rescource! > > "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... > > Hi all! > > > > I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I > >have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Ricardo Ciganda > > Dpto. de Sistemas > > Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. > > > > _ >
Re: COLT tests
I did the same thing of my BSCN test, and had similar results. But I ended up scoring well over 900 on the actual test. I basically use the Colt tests to get me used to the Cisco way of asking questions (phrasing, etc.). Prior to that, I use something like Boson to make sure I have hit the right topics in my studies and to point out gaps in my knowledge. ---JRE--- ""Ejay Hire"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for > taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing and > should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing that > they really are as awful as I thought they were. > > Whew! > -Ejay > > > Original Message Follows > From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: COLT tests > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT > > I think I have to agree. > > I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the > book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I missed > were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). The > test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple > correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are > literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are allowed > to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but > this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. > > Cheers, > > Lance > > > >From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: COLT tests > >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 > > > >COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I counted > >over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers > >listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get > >through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on the > >real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions, > >badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require a > >Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made any > >attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they > >are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were > >paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my > >belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some hired > >third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about > >(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to > >Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing > >the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to > >make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as > >a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam > >has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment > >exams do. > > > >Regards, > >MLC > > "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No > >charge, excellent rescource! > > "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... > > Hi all! > > > > I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I > >have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Ricardo Ciganda > > Dpto. de Sistemas > > Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. > > > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] &g
COLT tests + CCDA
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl have fun. BTW, just got back from taking the CCDA.Passed, but those Case studies had me squirming in my chair! ;^) Cheers, Lance >From: "Niraj Palikhey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: COLT tests >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:00:23 EDT > >How would I take the Colt tests? Are these the same practise tests on the >Cisco web site that is for registered CCO users? I forget the url but does >anyone know the url? I would appreciate it. >Thank you. > > > >>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:38:42 PDT >> >>Yes, If the COLT tests were tires, I'm afraid they would be Firestone >>Wilderness series...complete with the deflating effect >> >>(Sorry, couldn't help it). >> >>Lance >> >> >>>From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:46:10 CDT >>> >>>Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for >>>taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing >>>and >>>should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing that >>>they really are as awful as I thought they were. >>> >>>Whew! >>>-Ejay >>> >>> >>>Original Message Follows >>>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT >>> >>>I think I have to agree. >>> >>>I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the >>>book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I >>>missed >>>were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). >>>The >>>test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have >>>multiple >>>correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are >>>literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are >>>allowed >>>to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but >>>this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Lance >>> >>> >>>>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 >>>> >>>>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I >>>>counted >>>>over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers >>>>listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to >>>>get >>>>through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on >>>>the >>>>real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous >>>>questions, >>>>badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they >>>>require >>>>a >>>>Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made >>>>any >>>>attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they >>>>are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were >>>>paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is >>>>my >>>>belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some >>>>hired >>>>third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about >>>>(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment >>>>to >>>>Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even >>>>showing >>>>the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse >>>>to >>>>make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it >>>>as >>>>a re
Re: COLT tests
How would I take the Colt tests? Are these the same practise tests on the Cisco web site that is for registered CCO users? I forget the url but does anyone know the url? I would appreciate it. Thank you. >From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: COLT tests >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:38:42 PDT > >Yes, If the COLT tests were tires, I'm afraid they would be Firestone >Wilderness series...complete with the deflating effect > >(Sorry, couldn't help it). > >Lance > > >>From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:46:10 CDT >> >>Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for >>taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing >>and >>should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing that >>they really are as awful as I thought they were. >> >>Whew! >>-Ejay >> >> >>Original Message Follows >>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT >> >>I think I have to agree. >> >>I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the >>book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I >>missed >>were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). The >>test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple >>correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are >>literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are >>allowed >>to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but >>this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Lance >> >> >>>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 >>> >>>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I >>>counted >>>over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers >>>listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get >>>through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on >>>the >>>real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous >>>questions, >>>badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require >>>a >>>Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made >>>any >>>attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they >>>are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were >>>paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my >>>belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some >>>hired >>>third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about >>>(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment >>>to >>>Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing >>>the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse >>>to >>>make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it >>>as >>>a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real >>>exam >>>has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment >>>exams do. >>> >>>Regards, >>>MLC >>> "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>>8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >>> They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. >>>No >>>charge, excellent rescource! >>> "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>>C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I would like to know what is the finality of t
Re: COLT tests
Yes, If the COLT tests were tires, I'm afraid they would be Firestone Wilderness series...complete with the deflating effect (Sorry, couldn't help it). Lance >From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: COLT tests >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:46:10 CDT > >Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for >taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing and >should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing that >they really are as awful as I thought they were. > >Whew! >-Ejay > > >Original Message Follows >From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: COLT tests >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT > >I think I have to agree. > >I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the >book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I >missed >were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). The >test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple >correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are >literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are >allowed >to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but >this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. > >Cheers, > >Lance > > >>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 >> >>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I >>counted >>over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers >>listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get >>through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on >>the >>real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions, >>badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require >>a >>Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made >>any >>attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they >>are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were >>paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my >>belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some >>hired >>third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about >>(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment >>to >>Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing >>the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to >>make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as >>a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam >>has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment >>exams do. >> >>Regards, >>MLC >> "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No >>charge, excellent rescource! >> "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... >> Hi all! >> >> I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I >>have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Ricardo Ciganda >> Dpto. de Sistemas >> Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. >> > >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COLT tests
Thank God its not just me. I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing and should learn to change tires instead!! I feel a lot better knowing that they really are as awful as I thought they were. Whew! -Ejay Original Message Follows From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: COLT tests Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT I think I have to agree. I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I missed were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). The test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are allowed to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. Cheers, Lance >From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: COLT tests >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 > >COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I counted >over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers >listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get >through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on the >real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions, >badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require a >Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made any >attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they >are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were >paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my >belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some hired >third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about >(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to >Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing >the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to >make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as >a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam >has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment >exams do. > >Regards, >MLC > "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No >charge, excellent rescource! > "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... > Hi all! > > I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I >have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ricardo Ciganda > Dpto. de Sistemas > Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: COLT tests]
-- Dan Henry CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer II Broadwing, Inc. / ZoomTown.Com Agreed again. I took the Routing 2.0 pre-test and was greatly dismayed by what I found. After studying hard for some time, I couldn't even understand what was being asked on probably 1/3 of the questions. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > Just tried the CCDA one also. Obviously written by someone who doesn't > really "get it." Sigh. > > Priscilla > > At 06:27 AM 10/17/00, Lance Hubbard wrote: > >I think I have to agree. > > > >I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the > >book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I > >missed were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco > >Press). The test contradicts the book often, and several times questions > >have multiple correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but > >there are literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you > >are allowed to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas > >for me, but this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Lance > > > > > >>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: COLT tests > >>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 > >> > >>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I > >>counted over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct > >>answers listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to > >>try to get through it. There is a very good reason that these questions > >>are not on the real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, > >>nebulous questions, badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and > >>obscure that they require a Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, > >>etc.), and no one has made any attempt to improve them. What is amazing > >>about some of them is that they are direct mis-quotes from some of the > >>Cisco-Press books, and some were paraphrased incorrectly and > >>unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my belief that these questions > >>were not written by Cisco but rather some hired third-party who didn't > >>understand the material they were asking about (let's hope that this is > >>the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to Cisco!). I had to > >>inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing the gifs (they > >>have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to make a > >>decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as a > >>reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam > >>has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment > >>exams do. > >> > >>Regards, > >>MLC > >> "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >> 8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >> They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. > >> No charge, excellent rescource! > >> "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >> C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... > >> Hi all! > >> > >> I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I > >> have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > >> > >> Ricardo Ciganda > >> Dpto. de Sistemas > >> Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. > > > >_ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dan Henry CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer II Broadwing, Inc. / ZoomTown.Com
Re: COLT tests
Just tried the CCDA one also. Obviously written by someone who doesn't really "get it." Sigh. Priscilla At 06:27 AM 10/17/00, Lance Hubbard wrote: >I think I have to agree. > >I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the >book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I >missed were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco >Press). The test contradicts the book often, and several times questions >have multiple correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but >there are literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you >are allowed to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas >for me, but this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. > >Cheers, > >Lance > > >>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: COLT tests >>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 >> >>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I >>counted over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct >>answers listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to >>try to get through it. There is a very good reason that these questions >>are not on the real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, >>nebulous questions, badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and >>obscure that they require a Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, >>etc.), and no one has made any attempt to improve them. What is amazing >>about some of them is that they are direct mis-quotes from some of the >>Cisco-Press books, and some were paraphrased incorrectly and >>unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my belief that these questions >>were not written by Cisco but rather some hired third-party who didn't >>understand the material they were asking about (let's hope that this is >>the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to Cisco!). I had to >>inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing the gifs (they >>have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to make a >>decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as a >>reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam >>has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment >>exams do. >> >>Regards, >>MLC >> "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> 8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. >> No charge, excellent rescource! >> "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... >> Hi all! >> >> I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I >> have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Ricardo Ciganda >> Dpto. de Sistemas >> Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. > >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COLT tests
Hear, hear. I only tried the CIT one, but I have to agree that the questions and answers are so garbled that they make you think you won't pass the test. They appear to be written by a non-English speaker (no offence to those of you in that category) and/or a non Cisco-speaker. I agree that they confuse the issue. The real tests are not worded nearly as badly. Priscilla At 07:43 AM 10/17/00, michael champion wrote: >My opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I counted over 15 >questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers listed or >had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get through >it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on the real >exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions, >badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require >a Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made >any attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that >they are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some >were paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It >is my belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather >some hired third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking >about (let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real >embarrassment to Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam >wasn't even showing the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't >use this resourse to make a decision on whether you are ready for the real >exam, just use it as a reference to make sure that you have covered the >material. The real exam has a few nebulous questions, but not to the >extent that the assessment exams do. > >Regards, >MLC >>"Lonnie Paschall" <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >>in message >><8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >>They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No >>charge, excellent rescource! >>>"Ricardo Ciganda" >>><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>><C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01>C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... >>> >>>Hi all! >>> >>>I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I have >>>to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? >>> >>>Thanks in advance. >>> >>>Ricardo Ciganda >>>Dpto. de Sistemas >>>Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COLT tests
I think I have to agree. I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52. The questions I missed were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press). The test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are allowed to pick just one. It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation. Cheers, Lance >From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: COLT tests >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500 > >COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I counted >over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers >listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get >through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on the >real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions, >badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require a >Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made any >attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they >are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were >paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my >belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some hired >third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about >(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to >Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing >the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to >make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as >a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam >has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment >exams do. > >Regards, >MLC > "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No >charge, excellent rescource! > "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... > Hi all! > > I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I >have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ricardo Ciganda > Dpto. de Sistemas > Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A. > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COLT tests
Title: COLT tests
My opinion of them is that they only confuse
the issue. I counted over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no
correct answers listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to
try to get through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not
on the real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous
questions, badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they
require a Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one
has made any attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that
they are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were
paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my
belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some hired
third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about (let's
hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment to Cisco!). I
had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing the gifs (they
have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to make a decision on
whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as a reference to make sure
that you have covered the material. The real exam has a few nebulous questions,
but not to the extent that the assessment exams do.
Regards,
MLC
"Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
They are practice beta exams that are avaialable
to cco login users. No charge, excellent rescource!
"Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01...
Hi all!
I would like to know what is the finality of the
COLT tests. May I have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a
test?
Thanks in advance.
Ricardo Ciganda Dpto. de Sistemas Bytemaster
Servicios Informaticos S.A.
Re: COLT tests
Title: COLT tests They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No charge, excellent rescource! "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01... Hi all! I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? Thanks in advance. Ricardo Ciganda Dpto. de Sistemas Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A.
COLT tests
Title: COLT tests Hi all! I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test? Thanks in advance. Ricardo Ciganda Dpto. de Sistemas Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A.
