RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
I happened to purchase the CCIE 350-001 ExamCram from them when they were going under as I got it for $7.00 (what the hell, eh?) After receiving it and reading it, I was amazed at how many errors there were. The good thing is that I spotted so many errors, meaning that I knew the material well enough to know when it was wrong. The bad thing is that many who didn't know better read it and probably came away with bad info. I don't know about the other ExamCram books as I have never read any of them, and wouldn't purchase or bother to read another. I believe both authors of that book participate here at times, and I won't be surprised if I get a little warm from that observation. ;) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44908t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
Well, it's good to hear that there will be more choices to study from once I get to that point. From looking at review comments on Amazon, it appears that of the Exam Cram series, only the switching book by Deal was any good. I sent him an email message (found an old posting of his on Amazon where he gave his philosophy and background on testing) to find out if he knows of any errata for his book, now that Coriolis is gone. I'm more than half-way through Exam Prep Switching, and I'm not sure that I'm going to bother finishing it. While the grammar and spelling are fine, it's the technical stuff that keeps coming up and catching my attention. Examples where the text doesn't match the router/switch configs they're working through, test questions that don't make sense or have the wrong answer, questions where the correct answer is e, even though there are only 4 choices, questions where the correct answer is a,c,d, but no instruction or grammar hint to pick more than one answer, etc. I guess I'll try to sell the books on half.com while I still can. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44713t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
Well, Richard Deal just sent me an email. Coriolis was maintaining all the errata. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44720t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
My calendar is marked. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: I have a new book coming out soon for the Support Test. And I plan to manage my own errata sheet (which hopefully will be very small ;-) rather than let the publisher do it. There's more info here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44726t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
Hope it comes out before the start of our fall semester. Who's publishing it? Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: I have a new book coming out soon for the Support Test. And I plan to manage my own errata sheet (which hopefully will be very small ;-) rather than let the publisher do it. There's more info here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Priscilla At 01:13 PM 5/21/02, Robert Kulagowski wrote: I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44740t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
Now that Coriolis is kaput, does anyone have the errata for Exam Prep books 640-503 (Routing) and 640-504 (Switching)? I've tried to use google to see if any were available, but apparently Coriolis was using a dynamic page on their support website, so google didn't cache it. I'm already concerned with the errors that I'm finding, and I've only just finished Chapter 2 of the Switching book. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44638t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
I'm not sure that they ever made errata files available to the public(at least none of any substance). And I have good reason to believe that, like all publishers, they ignored the feedback that they begged for. After a few automated we'll be in touch responses, I gave up on them. Only ever read one book (routing) and it was pretty bad. Only good for very final review so you won't be misled. Robert Kulagowski wrote: Now that Coriolis is kaput, does anyone have the errata for Exam Prep books 640-503 (Routing) and 640-504 (Switching)? I've tried to use google to see if any were available, but apparently Coriolis was using a dynamic page on their support website, so google didn't cache it. I'm already concerned with the errors that I'm finding, and I've only just finished Chapter 2 of the Switching book. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44640t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44641t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
I'm a big fan of most Cisco Press books. However, they totally ignore feedback and I know of times where folks have pointed out clear errata only to see the book go through several more printings with the same errrors. I read both CCNP libraries and found all but one of the books in them to be anywhere from satisfactory to great. Stay away from the routing book in the Cert Library (as opposed to the Prep Library) - at least until you know the material well enough to spot where the author or the editors didn't know the fundamentals of some of the material (lots of LSAs going the wrong direction, etc). In any case, I recommend one or both libraries. They can be found reasonably priced at bookpool and several others I have seen metioned here. Robert Kulagowski wrote: I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44642t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
Actually, I believe Richard Deal (author of the Coriolis Exam Cram Switching) frequents this list occasionally. Hopefully, he'll see this and can address your concerns. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Robert Kulagowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638] I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44646t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
Most of the Sybex books I've read have been too dummied down to be of any use by themselves, but Todd Lammle's writing style is easy enough to understand that you can take a technology you know nothing about, read a couple pages, then have a handle on the basics of it. From there it's easier (for me at least) to cross reference with a more detailed book without getting mired down in the jargon. The ciscopress books worked nicely for me along those lines, as the old ciscopress ccnp books read like stereo instructions. For the IGP's on the routing exam, you may want to check out Solie's CCIE Practical Studies book. It goes into more detail than you need to for the NP exams, but everything is demonstrated in lab walk-thru exercises that you can set up with a few routers. I haven't checked out the ciscopress books for any of the NP exams (I took mostly the older versions) but you may want to pick that up, as Solie's book doesn't cover BGP. -Original Message- From: Robert Kulagowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638] I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44647t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
One thing to add there, the most recent revision of the Networking Academy curriculum has animations that would have saved me hours and hours of headaches if I'd had them when I was first learning OSPF, and it also presents BGP in an understandable manner. -Original Message- From: s vermill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638] I'm a big fan of most Cisco Press books. However, they totally ignore feedback and I know of times where folks have pointed out clear errata only to see the book go through several more printings with the same errrors. I read both CCNP libraries and found all but one of the books in them to be anywhere from satisfactory to great. Stay away from the routing book in the Cert Library (as opposed to the Prep Library) - at least until you know the material well enough to spot where the author or the editors didn't know the fundamentals of some of the material (lots of LSAs going the wrong direction, etc). In any case, I recommend one or both libraries. They can be found reasonably priced at bookpool and several others I have seen metioned here. Robert Kulagowski wrote: I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44648t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Errata for Coriolis books? [7:44638]
I have a new book coming out soon for the Support Test. And I plan to manage my own errata sheet (which hopefully will be very small ;-) rather than let the publisher do it. There's more info here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Priscilla At 01:13 PM 5/21/02, Robert Kulagowski wrote: I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case (in that they apparently never did anything with the feedback). Does anyone have recommendations for a publisher that 1) Has good reading material for CCNP and 2) Actually maintains an errata page that incorporates feedback? As far as #2, I've had good results with Sybex, at least on the CCNA material. The support person answered emails quickly, and a few days later I would see that the errata page had been updated. One thing that the support person told me was that errata had to be checked with the authors, so this might also factor in. I see from the archive that Priscilla O. is still an active contributor; do any other authors of CCXX material frequent this or other lists? Thanks. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44678t=44638 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
