How to dial in & power up home lab?? [7:54768]

2002-10-02 Thread Jake Secrist

Dear GroupStudy,

Here is my interesting dilemma.  I hope someone can lend some insight...

1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to
Internet).
2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often.
3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often.
4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my
lab.
5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is
not in use.
6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used
to remotely power up/power down the lab.
7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them).

I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab
(this I can figure out).  Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to
have one of the routers dial up my ISP?  But then, how would I know what
the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to
telnet to the lab?

One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on
LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect.  Then the dial up
connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP
automatically.  Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be.
Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address.  A friend said
to use ICQ.  I don't know how that works, but will try it.

I think I have covered everything.  Thanks in advance for any help.

Jake Secrist




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RE: How to dial in & power up home lab?? [7:54768]

2002-10-02 Thread David C Prall

Jake,
Have a look at one of the dynamic DNS sites, such as tzo.com. I think there
are even some free ones. Of course I'm not sure if you could do this from a
router.

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>
> Dear GroupStudy,
>
> Here is my interesting dilemma.  I hope someone can lend some insight...
>
> 1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to
> Internet).
> 2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often.
> 3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often.
> 4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my
> lab.
> 5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is
> not in use.
> 6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used
> to remotely power up/power down the lab.
> 7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them).
>
> I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab
> (this I can figure out).  Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to
> have one of the routers dial up my ISP?  But then, how would I know what
> the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to
> telnet to the lab?
>
> One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on
> LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect.  Then the dial up
> connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP
> automatically.  Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be.
> Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address.  A friend said
> to use ICQ.  I don't know how that works, but will try it.
>
> I think I have covered everything.  Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Jake Secrist




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Re: How to dial in & power up home lab?? [7:54768]

2002-10-03 Thread Gaz

In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> Dear GroupStudy,
> 
> Here is my interesting dilemma.  I hope someone can lend some insight...
> 
> 1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to
> Internet).
> 2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often.
> 3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often.
> 4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my
> lab.
> 5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is
> not in use.
> 6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used
> to remotely power up/power down the lab.
> 7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them).
> 
> I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab
> (this I can figure out).  Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to
> have one of the routers dial up my ISP?  But then, how would I know what
> the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to
> telnet to the lab?
> 
> One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on
> LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect.  Then the dial up
> connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP
> automatically.  Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be.
> Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address.  A friend said
> to use ICQ.  I don't know how that works, but will try it.
> 
> I think I have covered everything.  Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Jake Secrist
I set a similar thing up at home although it doesn't answer all of your 
questions it may give you other ideas. Try www.no-ip.com.
For simple dynamic DNS they offer a free service. It seems to work fine 
for me.
I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to everything 
else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet Connection 
sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that.
 I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? but to be honest I don't 
care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish).

I don't have the problem of remote power on, as I have a much more 
complicated and infinitely more expensive device which powers everything 
on when needed. Unfortunately she's not always in when I call, but you 
can't have everything :-)


Gaz




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Re: How to dial in & power up home lab?? [7:54768]

2002-10-04 Thread

Gaz wrote:
> 

> I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to everything
> else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet Connection
> sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that.
>  I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? 

No it isnt unless you have put some work into the security of this 
machine. 

> but to be honest I don't
> care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish).
> 
It can once you realised it has been cracked.  How 
quickly do you think you can spot that it has happened?
Are you also volunteering your time and money to fix any 
systems that are attacked from your machine?


Peter Walker

PS. Sorry if I seem a bit harsh, but the fact is that in 
my experience most 'attacks' that I have experienced originate 
from poorly secured machines that people have foolishly placed 
on the net.




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Re: How to dial in & power up home lab?? [7:54768]

2002-10-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

"Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIP wrote:
> 
> Gaz wrote:
> > 
> 
> > I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to
> everything
> > else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet
> Connection
> > sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that.
> >  I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? 
> 
> No it isnt unless you have put some work into the security of
> this
> machine. 
> 
> > but to be honest I don't
> > care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish).
> > 
> It can once you realised it has been cracked.  How 
> quickly do you think you can spot that it has happened?
> Are you also volunteering your time and money to fix any 
> systems that are attacked from your machine?
> 
> 
> Peter Walker
> 
> PS. Sorry if I seem a bit harsh, but the fact is that in 
> my experience most 'attacks' that I have experienced originate 
> from poorly secured machines that people have foolishly placed 
> on the net.
> 

I agree with you, Peter.

Recently I was at a conference with some security gurus. They were working
on a system for ISPs to automatically notice and report to each other
security problems. The system required the ISP to have an automomous system
number. I pointed out that some ISPs don't have such a thing. There are
still quite a few small ISPs that depend on other ISPs who depend on other
ISPs, etc. The gurus sort of laughted at me. But really, a lot of the
attacks are going to come from Grandma's PC that Grandson forgot to secure
when he set up an ISP in his bedroom. If that's a bit extreme, I would also
say that a lot of attacks are going to come from compromised computers
behind cable or DSL modems, where the slightly larger ISP didn't stress
security enough either. That's my $0.02 anyway. Comments??

Priscilla Oppenheimer




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