Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Darren Ward

I'd like to add a couple of points that possibly have been overlooked.

The first one is that I don't believe I've seen Brad 'spam' the list for sales.

He only ever seems to reply to people who have posted looking for equipment to
study on.

Secondly, isn't that the point of this list as well?
To be able to get any and all assistance from a peer group studying for the
CCxx's?
This surely includes equipment and I know I wouldn't give my routers away for
free either.

I know I've got enough on my plate studying for my written soon instead of
debating a non-existant list ethics issue.

Darren Ward - PGradCS, CCNP, CCDP, MCP


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Re: Fw: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Roman

The 1912 has a different command set than the 5000 does.  Look for a 2924 
possibly. (I think). :)

Roman

At 12:11 PM 7/31/00 +, you wrote:

>On the subject 
>
>i need a catalyst switch .. i think the 1912xl will give me cat5000 
>likewise setupis this true and can anyone help ?
>
>
>I`M IN THE UK if that causes a problem
>
>cheers steve
>
>>From: "Farrell A. Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Farrell A. Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Fw: In defence of Brad
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:59:27 -0400
>>
>>I have purchased several pieces of equipment from Brad.  Not only did he
>>sell me the equipment, he also assisted me in configuring it (Cat5000, VOIP,
>>etc).  Heck he even gave me his home number so if I needed assistance I
>>could him (which I did).  So you tell me, is this not contributing to this
>>list???
>>
>>Farrell A. Fletcher
>>CCNP, MCSE
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Ronald James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 3:47 AM
>>Subject: Re: In defence of Brad
>>
>>
>> > Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer
>> > equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?
>>Concerning
>> > he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to
>> > this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most importantly,
>> > he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
>> > money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?
>> >
>> >
>> > "ian gomeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > 015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer...
>> > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
>> > > "Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
>> > CCIE's
>> > > don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
>> > He's
>> > > still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I
>>had
>> > a
>> > > way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > >
>> > > I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion
>>from
>> > a
>> > > list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think
>>by
>> > > helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.
>> > >
>> > > It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
>> > opposed
>> > > to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
>> > previous
>> > > postings.
>> > >
>> > > Point made perhaps?
>> > >
>> > > ian
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: Fw: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Stephen Skinner


On the subject 

i need a catalyst switch .. i think the 1912xl will give me cat5000 
likewise setupis this true and can anyone help ?


I`M IN THE UK if that causes a problem

cheers steve

>From: "Farrell A. Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Farrell A. Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Fw: In defence of Brad
>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:59:27 -0400
>
>I have purchased several pieces of equipment from Brad.  Not only did he
>sell me the equipment, he also assisted me in configuring it (Cat5000, 
>VOIP,
>etc).  Heck he even gave me his home number so if I needed assistance I
>could him (which I did).  So you tell me, is this not contributing to this
>list???
>
>Farrell A. Fletcher
>CCNP, MCSE
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ronald James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 3:47 AM
>Subject: Re: In defence of Brad
>
>
> > Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can 
>offer
> > equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?  
>Concerning
> > he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute 
>to
> > this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most 
>importantly,
> > he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
> > money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?
> >
> >
> > "ian gomeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer...
> > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
> > > "Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
> > CCIE's
> > > don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
> > He's
> > > still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I
>had
> > a
> > > way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion
>from
> > a
> > > list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I 
>think
>by
> > > helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of 
>you.
> > >
> > > It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
> > opposed
> > > to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
> > previous
> > > postings.
> > >
> > > Point made perhaps?
> > >
> > > ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Fw: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Farrell A. Fletcher

I have purchased several pieces of equipment from Brad.  Not only did he
sell me the equipment, he also assisted me in configuring it (Cat5000, VOIP,
etc).  Heck he even gave me his home number so if I needed assistance I
could him (which I did).  So you tell me, is this not contributing to this
list???

Farrell A. Fletcher
CCNP, MCSE

- Original Message -
From: "Ronald James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: In defence of Brad


> Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer
> equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?  Concerning
> he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to
> this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most importantly,
> he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
> money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?
>
>
> "ian gomeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer...
> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
> > "Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
> CCIE's
> > don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
> He's
> > still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I
had
> a
> > way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
> >
> > -
> >
> > I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion
from
> a
> > list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think
by
> > helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.
> >
> > It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
> opposed
> > to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
> previous
> > postings.
> >
> > Point made perhaps?
> >
> > ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Ronald James

Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer
equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?  Concerning
he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to
this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most importantly,
he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?


"ian gomeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer...
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
> "Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
>
> 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
CCIE's
> don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
He's
> still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had
a
> way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
>
> -
>
> I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from
a
> list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
> helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.
>
> It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
opposed
> to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
previous
> postings.
>
> Point made perhaps?
>
> ian
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-30 Thread nnrp-corp.news.cais.net

I second the second motion.


"Dick Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> /
> I second the motion supporting Brad.
> \
> -Original Message-
> From: ian gomeche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:52 AM
> Subject: In defence of Brad
>
>
> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
> >"Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
CCIE's
> >don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
He's
> >still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had
a
> >way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
> >
> >-
> >
> >I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from
a
> >list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think
by
> >helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.
> >
> >It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
opposed
> >to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
previous
> >postings.
> >
> >Point made perhaps?
> >
> >ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-30 Thread Dick Silva

/
I second the motion supporting Brad.
\
-Original Message-
From: ian gomeche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:52 AM
Subject: In defence of Brad


>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
>"Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
>
>'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of CCIE's
>don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.  He's
>still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had a
>way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
>
>-
>
>I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from a
>list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
>helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.
>
>It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as opposed
>to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of previous
>postings.
>
>Point made perhaps?
>
>ian
>
>
>
>
>
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In defence of Brad

2000-07-30 Thread ian gomeche

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
"Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:


'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of CCIE's
don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.  He's
still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had a
way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'

-

I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from a
list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.

It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as opposed
to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of previous
postings.

Point made perhaps?

ian





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