PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Hello all.. Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some comments and finished in 35 minutes. One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different models had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried to take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I did about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were so many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so few questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON for making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real exams but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I was practicing for it. Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking and passing exams motivates me to keep going! Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7794&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
If you look at the objectives for the exam and all of the books, each spend a lot of effort on the 700 series. The beta and live exams that I've seen had a lot (roughly 10). It would appear that with the death of the product line they've killed the questions too. ;) --- "Michael L. Williams" wrote: > Hello all.. > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad > exam. A couple of > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have > more than one correct > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even > took time to write some > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge > chapter on the Cisco 700. > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down > chapter on the 700 just > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam > (which was nice). I > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. > BOTH books had a single, > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's > for branch not SOHO and > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 > quizzes in both of the > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I > kept getting hammered > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what > interfaces the different models > had (something neither book had any details about). > Lucky for me I tried to > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got > as many if not more > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a > 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I did > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm > disappointed that there were so > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the > 700 series, yet the > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned > them I can't believe > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy > chapter to the 700 with so few > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the > 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON for > making practice exams that not only are a good > simulation of the real exams > but also covered material that exam creators didn't > even include in their > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for > hammering me with 1600 > questions and letting me get the info I needed for > the real exam while I was > practicing for it. > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP > Woohoo! > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people > in the group talking > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > Mike W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7804&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router offerings. The IDG I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so best to cover ALL the bases if you can. Karl - Original Message - From: "Michael L. Williams" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > Hello all.. > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different models > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried to > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I did > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were so > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so few > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON for > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real exams > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I was > practicing for it. > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7823&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10778&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he done each one in circa 8 secs Regards, Ronald Regan. "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001 09:21:46 Please respond to "Jayesh Patel" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA) Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10786&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that. Perhaps you are talking about the real jet net. No flames, -Original Message- From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10787&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
He must be a speed reader! :-) I need to take that course. Heather Buri CSC Technology Services - Houston Phone: (713)-961-8592 Fax:(713)-961-8249 Mobile: Alpha Page: Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd Suite 500 Houston, TX 77056 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he done each one in circa 8 secs Regards, Ronald Regan. "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001 09:21:46 Please respond to "Jayesh Patel" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA) Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10793&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
I think I'm going to give up and apply to McDonalds! - Original Message - From: "Buri, Heather H" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > He must be a speed reader! :-) I need to take that course. > > Heather Buri > CSC Technology Services - Houston > > Phone: (713)-961-8592 > Fax: (713)-961-8249 > Mobile: > Alpha Page: > > Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd > Suite 500 > Houston, TX 77056 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he done > each one in circa 8 secs > > > Regards, > > Ronald Regan. > > > > > > > "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001 > 09:21:46 > > Please respond to "Jayesh Patel" > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA) > > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Hi > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > Regards > Jayesh Patel > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + > Voice > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice > Access Solutions. > > - Original Message - > From: "hal9001" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide > ISBN:007211908X > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > > offerings. The IDG > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but > also > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The > future > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation > of > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > Karl > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one > correct > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write > some > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco > 700. > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 > just > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). > I > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a > single, > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO > and > > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of > the > > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting > hammered > > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > > models > > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I > tried > > to > > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > > did > > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there > were > > so > > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet > the > > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't > believe > > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with > so > > few > > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO > BOSON > > for > > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > > exams > > > b
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Aren't you the guy that did the FedEx commercials in the 80's :o) - Original Message - From: "Jayesh Patel" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > Hi > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > Regards > Jayesh Patel > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice > Access Solutions. > > - Original Message - > From: "hal9001" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > > offerings. The IDG > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation > of > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > Karl > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one > correct > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco > 700. > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 > just > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). > I > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a > single, > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO > and > > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of > the > > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting > hammered > > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > > models > > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I > tried > > to > > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > > did > > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there > were > > so > > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't > believe > > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > > few > > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > > for > > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > > exams > > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in > their > > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with > 1600 > > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > > was > > > practicing for it. > > > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group > talking > > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10797&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
His argument says 6 seconds @ best per question. You be the judge... - Original Message - From: "Raees Ahmed Shaikh" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:43 AM Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question > alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that. Perhaps > you are talking about the real jet net. > > No flames, > > -Original Message- > From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Hi > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > Regards > Jayesh Patel > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice > Access Solutions. > > - Original Message ----- > From: "hal9001" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > > offerings. The IDG > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation > of > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > Karl > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one > correct > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco > 700. > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 > just > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). > I > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a > single, > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO > and > > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of > the > > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting > hammered > > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > > models > > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I > tried > > to > > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > > did > > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there > were > > so > > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't > believe > > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > > few > > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > > for > > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > > exams > > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in > their > > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with > 1600 > > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > > was > > > practicing for it. > > > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group > talking > > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10798&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
I think the main point of Mike W's message is that the Boson test is the MOST accurate prep for the tests than any of the books. I recently passed the CID test and the Boson tests hammered Stratacom. None of the books on CID that I looked at to study mentioned Stratacom at all. Granted that CID is a 100 question test and the Stratacom questions were This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question > alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that. Perhaps > you are talking about the real jet net. > > No flames, > > -Original Message- > From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Hi > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > Regards > Jayesh Patel > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice > Access Solutions. > > - Original Message - > From: "hal9001" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > > offerings. The IDG > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation > of > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > Karl > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one > correct > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco > 700. > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 > just > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). > I > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a > single, > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO > and > > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of > the > > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting > hammered > > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > > models > > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I > tried > > to > > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > > did > > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there > were > > so > > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't > believe > > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > > few > > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > > for > > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > > exams > > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in > their > > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with > 1600 > > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > > was > > > practicing for it. > > > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group > talking > > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > > > Mike W. Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10800&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Thanks for the comment about the Sybex book. ;) Note, there is a lot of commenting on the 'lack' of 700 series material on the RA exam. All RA books have this material because it is in the objectives. Cisco can, and does, change material from time to time, and it seems clear that the 700 material was removed in part - be thankful that it did. The platform really is a hybrid, and there is little that the 800 or 1600 cannot provide for a reasonable price/performance. Please do not be upset with the authors re the 700 material. We base the books on the objectives and our experiences. --- Raees Ahmed Shaikh wrote: > This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if > he reads the question > alone without answering them it will taken him more > time than that. Perhaps > you are talking about the real jet net. > > No flames, > > -Original Message- > From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Hi > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min > with a score of 930. > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > Regards > Jayesh Patel > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE > written,CCNP + Voice > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise > Business and CSE for Voice > Access Solutions. > > - Original Message ----- > From: "hal9001" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access > Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the > relevant Cisco Router > > offerings. The IDG > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to > not stick with just one > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get > a balanced view but also > > to find other information omitted by another > publisher/author. The future > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present > costs. > > > > After all, all these books are just an > authors/publishers interpretation > of > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions > you get in the exam so > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > Karl > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a > bad exam. A couple of > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to > have more than one > correct > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even > took time to write some > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge > chapter on the Cisco > 700. > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared > down chapter on the 700 > just > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the > exam (which was nice). > I > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. > BOTH books had a > single, > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying > it's for branch not SOHO > and > > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through > all 4 quizzes in both of > the > > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) > and I kept getting > hammered > > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what > interfaces the different > > models > > > had (something neither book had any details > about). Lucky for me I > tried > > to > > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I > got as many if not more > > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a > 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > > did > > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm > disappointed that there > were > > so > > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to > the 700 series, yet the > > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned > them I can't > believe > > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy > chapter to the 700 with so > > few > > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring > the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > > for > > > making practice exams that not only are a good > simulation of the real > > exams > > > but also covered material that exam creators > did
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
That reeks of BS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jayesh Patel Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10831&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Sha! My blind dog, Skip, passed the written in 34 seconds. -Original Message- From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] That reeks of BS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jayesh Patel Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10840&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
you need to be MCSE (McDonalds Certified Systems Engineer), or specialize in chips technology. -Original Message- From: hal9001 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/07/01 13:35 Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] I think I'm going to give up and apply to McDonalds! - Original Message - From: "Buri, Heather H" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > He must be a speed reader! :-) I need to take that course. > > Heather Buri > CSC Technology Services - Houston > > Phone: (713)-961-8592 > Fax: (713)-961-8249 > Mobile: > Alpha Page: > > Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd > Suite 500 > Houston, TX 77056 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he done > each one in circa 8 secs > > > Regards, > > Ronald Regan. > > > > > > > "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001 > 09:21:46 > > Please respond to "Jayesh Patel" > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA) > > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > Hi > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > Regards > Jayesh Patel > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + > Voice > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice > Access Solutions. > > - Original Message - > From: "hal9001" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide > ISBN:007211908X > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > > offerings. The IDG > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but > also > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The > future > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation > of > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > Karl > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one > correct > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write > some > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco > 700. > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 > just > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). > I > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a > single, > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO > and > > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of > the > > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting > hammered > > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > > models > > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I > tried > > to > > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > > did > > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there > were > > so > > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet > the > > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't > believe > > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with > so > >
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
That's a BS (to the nth) Degree. Some managers require it! -Original Message- From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] That reeks of BS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jayesh Patel Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going! > > > > Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10845&t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Who gives a sh*t how long it takes - isn't the point that you pass? Which brings me onto another subject I've met so many people who have passed NA/NP etc.. but get them into the real world and they fall down like a sack of spuds..it's experience that counts not just the certificate. Just my 2 penneth (from the UK so can't use cents I'm afraid folks!) > Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards > > Neil > __ > Neil Heap > Infrastructure - Datacommunications hNIKE European Operations Netherlands BV *[EMAIL PROTECTED], __ -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Sha! My blind dog, Skip, passed the written in 34 seconds. -Original Message- From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] That reeks of BS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jayesh Patel Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: "hal9001" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > offerings. The IDG > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L. Williams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > Hello all.. > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and > > takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different > models > > had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried > to > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I > did > > about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were > so > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so > few > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON > for > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real > exams > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their > > own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I > was > > practicing for it. > > > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! > > > > Thanks
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
How many stars does that rate on the badge. You take fries with that..just practising. Karl - Original Message - From: "Charles Manafa" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > you need to be MCSE (McDonalds Certified Systems Engineer), or specialize in > chips technology. > > -Original Message- > From: hal9001 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03/07/01 13:35 > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > I think I'm going to give up and apply to McDonalds! > - Original Message - > From: "Buri, Heather H" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:04 PM > Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > He must be a speed reader! :-) I need to take that course. > > > > Heather Buri > > CSC Technology Services - Houston > > > > Phone: (713)-961-8592 > > Fax: (713)-961-8249 > > Mobile: > > Alpha Page: > > > > Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd > > Suite 500 > > Houston, TX 77056 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he > done > > each one in circa 8 secs > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ronald Regan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001 > > 09:21:46 > > > > Please respond to "Jayesh Patel" > > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA) > > > > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > Hi > > > > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of > 930. > > > > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and > > Switching in 9 min a score of 870. > > > > Regards > > Jayesh Patel > > > > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + > > Voice > > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for > Voice > > Access Solutions. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "hal9001" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM > > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide > > ISBN:007211908X > > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router > > > offerings. The IDG > > > > > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just > one > > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view > but > > also > > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The > > future > > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. > > > > > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers > interpretation > > of > > > the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the > exam so > > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can. > > > > > > Karl > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Michael L. Williams" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM > > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] > > > > > > > > > > Hello all.. > > > > > > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple > of > > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one > > correct > > > > answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to > write > > some > > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes. > > > > > > > > One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the > Cisco > > 700. > > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the > 700 > > just > > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was > nice). > > I > > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a > > single, > > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not > SOHO > > and > > > > takes a WIC
