RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition

2000-10-17 Thread Dorroh, Hunter

I would have to agree.  I recently started reading it and I am on about
Chapter 6 and it is fantastic!  The first few chapters cover basic things
like the Internet, CDIR, VLSM and other basics but then it delves highly
into massive BGP.

Hope this helps,

Hunter

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lodwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:19 PM
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Subject: RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition


-  I am looking towards moving to another department within the company I 
work for and they get REAL up close and personal with BGP. They also praise 
Halabi's book. They say I should buy this book and memorize the whole thing 
and life will be alot better. This is aparently, as Priscilla says, THE book

on BGP.

>>>Brian


>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Jean-Michel Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:41:13 -0700
>
>Good day,
>
>A second edition implies that the book is more up-to-date. It probably
>doesn't include many new topics, though. Halabi's second edition of
>"Internet Routing Architectures" is out and it's similar to his first
>edition, (in other words, very good). He got help from Danny McPherson on
>the second edition, and I think that made the book even more readable. It
>is THE book for learning BGP, a very important topic for BSCN.
>
>Jeff Doyle, on the other hand, is working on Volume II of his "Routing
>TCP/IP." That's different than a second edition. A second volume means new
>material, new topics. In particular, his Volume II is going to include BGP.
>Volume I did not include BGP. On the other hand, Volume I of "Routing
>TCP/IP" is THE book for learning every other major IP routing protocol,
>especially OSPF.
>
>So, for now, I would recommend Volume I of Jeff Doyle's "Routing TCP/IP"
>and the 2nd edition of Halabi's "Internet Routing Architectures." Volume II
>of "Routing TCP/IP" isn't due out until March. By then you will have
>memorized Halabi's book and become a CCIE! ;-)
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:15 AM 10/17/00, Jean-Michel Roberts wrote:
>>Good day,
>>
>>What is the difference between the Internet Routing Architectures book by
>>Basam Halabi 1st edition and 2nd edition? Is it just a more up to date
>>version?
>>
>>Which would you recommend to prepare for the BSCN exam and other exams in
>>the CCNP/CCIE track?
>>
>>The book: Routing TCP/IP by Doyle also has two editions. Dou you have any
>>comments, i.e. which shall I get... the second edition only comes out 
>>early
>>next year? Is it also a more up to date version or is the 1st version
>>sufficient? (I also don't want to wait until next year)
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Kind Regards,
>>
>>Jean-Michel
>>---
>>Jean-Michel Roberts  (MCSE) (MCP+Internet) (CCNA)
>>System Administrator
>>Cell: +27 82 71 22 555
>>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition

2000-10-17 Thread Brian Lodwick

-  I am looking towards moving to another department within the company I 
work for and they get REAL up close and personal with BGP. They also praise 
Halabi's book. They say I should buy this book and memorize the whole thing 
and life will be alot better. This is aparently, as Priscilla says, THE book 
on BGP.

>>>Brian


>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Jean-Michel Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:41:13 -0700
>
>Good day,
>
>A second edition implies that the book is more up-to-date. It probably
>doesn't include many new topics, though. Halabi's second edition of
>"Internet Routing Architectures" is out and it's similar to his first
>edition, (in other words, very good). He got help from Danny McPherson on
>the second edition, and I think that made the book even more readable. It
>is THE book for learning BGP, a very important topic for BSCN.
>
>Jeff Doyle, on the other hand, is working on Volume II of his "Routing
>TCP/IP." That's different than a second edition. A second volume means new
>material, new topics. In particular, his Volume II is going to include BGP.
>Volume I did not include BGP. On the other hand, Volume I of "Routing
>TCP/IP" is THE book for learning every other major IP routing protocol,
>especially OSPF.
>
>So, for now, I would recommend Volume I of Jeff Doyle's "Routing TCP/IP"
>and the 2nd edition of Halabi's "Internet Routing Architectures." Volume II
>of "Routing TCP/IP" isn't due out until March. By then you will have
>memorized Halabi's book and become a CCIE! ;-)
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:15 AM 10/17/00, Jean-Michel Roberts wrote:
>>Good day,
>>
>>What is the difference between the Internet Routing Architectures book by
>>Basam Halabi 1st edition and 2nd edition? Is it just a more up to date
>>version?
>>
>>Which would you recommend to prepare for the BSCN exam and other exams in
>>the CCNP/CCIE track?
>>
>>The book: Routing TCP/IP by Doyle also has two editions. Dou you have any
>>comments, i.e. which shall I get... the second edition only comes out 
>>early
>>next year? Is it also a more up to date version or is the 1st version
>>sufficient? (I also don't want to wait until next year)
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Kind Regards,
>>
>>Jean-Michel
>>---
>>Jean-Michel Roberts  (MCSE) (MCP+Internet) (CCNA)
>>System Administrator
>>Cell: +27 82 71 22 555
>>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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>
>
>
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RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition

2000-10-17 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Good day,

A second edition implies that the book is more up-to-date. It probably 
doesn't include many new topics, though. Halabi's second edition of 
"Internet Routing Architectures" is out and it's similar to his first 
edition, (in other words, very good). He got help from Danny McPherson on 
the second edition, and I think that made the book even more readable. It 
is THE book for learning BGP, a very important topic for BSCN.

Jeff Doyle, on the other hand, is working on Volume II of his "Routing 
TCP/IP." That's different than a second edition. A second volume means new 
material, new topics. In particular, his Volume II is going to include BGP. 
Volume I did not include BGP. On the other hand, Volume I of "Routing 
TCP/IP" is THE book for learning every other major IP routing protocol, 
especially OSPF.

So, for now, I would recommend Volume I of Jeff Doyle's "Routing TCP/IP" 
and the 2nd edition of Halabi's "Internet Routing Architectures." Volume II 
of "Routing TCP/IP" isn't due out until March. By then you will have 
memorized Halabi's book and become a CCIE! ;-)

Priscilla

At 11:15 AM 10/17/00, Jean-Michel Roberts wrote:
>Good day,
>
>What is the difference between the Internet Routing Architectures book by
>Basam Halabi 1st edition and 2nd edition? Is it just a more up to date
>version?
>
>Which would you recommend to prepare for the BSCN exam and other exams in
>the CCNP/CCIE track?
>
>The book: Routing TCP/IP by Doyle also has two editions. Dou you have any
>comments, i.e. which shall I get... the second edition only comes out early
>next year? Is it also a more up to date version or is the 1st version
>sufficient? (I also don't want to wait until next year)
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Jean-Michel
>---
>Jean-Michel Roberts  (MCSE) (MCP+Internet) (CCNA)
>System Administrator
>Cell: +27 82 71 22 555
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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RE: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition

2000-10-17 Thread Jean-Michel Roberts

Good day,

What is the difference between the Internet Routing Architectures book by
Basam Halabi 1st edition and 2nd edition? Is it just a more up to date
version?

Which would you recommend to prepare for the BSCN exam and other exams in
the CCNP/CCIE track?

The book: Routing TCP/IP by Doyle also has two editions. Dou you have any
comments, i.e. which shall I get... the second edition only comes out early
next year? Is it also a more up to date version or is the 1st version
sufficient? (I also don't want to wait until next year)

Thanks in advance.

Kind Regards,

Jean-Michel
---
Jean-Michel Roberts  (MCSE) (MCP+Internet) (CCNA)
System Administrator
Cell: +27 82 71 22 555
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition

2000-09-20 Thread Avran

It will cost $23.97 at half.com!

"John Deatherage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Group...
>
> I was asking a lot of BGP questions on here until I bought this book
> Internet Routing Architectures (Cisco Press: ISBN1-57870-233-X, by Sam
> Halabi) - the second edition just came out, and it is one of the best
Cisco
> press books I have read, if not the best.  It really tackles the
complexties
> and nuances of BGP and wraps them into one concise book...  Our company is
> multihomed to different providers, and the book answers my questions like
it
> knew what I was looking for.  I would recommend this to *anyone* thinking
of
> using BGP.
>
> The only thing I think the book is missing is a few case studies, but
those
> can be found elsewhere.  The book is only $55, but I gladly would have
paid
> $110 ;)
>
> As for the minimum reqs. for BGP, I would say a 3660 if you are going to
be
> receiving full routes from your upsteam provider.  (256mb max).  Yes, it
> will work on a 3640 with 128mb, but you aren't leaving yourself much room
> for expansion on the box, traffic, or size of the routing table.  One of
our
> downstream customers couldn't even run BGP on their 3660 with 256mb
because
> it had several active E1 links and voice ports.   Your mileage may vary.
If
> you can't afford better than a 3640, you seriously need to evaluate why
you
> want to do full BGP anyway.
>
> John
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