Re: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-26 Thread MADMAN

Looks like you are definately receiving default from your providers. 
If I remember correctly though your big concern was incoming traffic not
outgoing.  Like I mentioned in my previous email you need to talk to
your providers and find out how they are announcing your address space. 
For example if your provider A gave with a /26 subnet of a class C to
use from their space provider B will not be able to propagate this.  If
provider A gave you a full class C but are announcing a supernet and
provider B is annoucing the /24 porvider B will have the longest match.  

  Dave

Jablonski, Michael wrote:
 
 Same routes via both connections.  this is our border router, no other
 routing on the inside..   We're probably receiving default routes.
 
 BGP router identifier 65.196.X.X, local AS number 7046
 BGP table version is 3, main routing table version 3
 2 network entries and 2 paths using 242 bytes of memory
 1 BGP path attribute entries using 92 bytes of memory
 BGP activity 2/0 prefixes, 2/0 paths
 
 NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
 State/PfxRcd
 
 63.122.163.89   4   701   13251   13282300 06:06:32   
0
 63.122.163.93   4   701   13251   13278300 1w1d   
0
 
 I really apprecaite the help I'm getting from everyone!  I only hope that I
 get more exposure, to make studying for the CCNP worth it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kane, Christopher A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
 
  Inbound/Outbound loads are out of wack  what part of the
  BGP neigh stats
  do you want to see?
 
 I'm referring to simply 'sh ip bgp sum', as this will show the amount of
 prefixes that you receive on each connection. So if I've read all of the
 threads correctly, you have 2 T1's at 2 physically separate locations but
 the same provider. I still have more questions than answers at this point.
 Are you advertising any routes or the same routes via both connections?
 (i.e. mail server, ftp server, dns server, etc...) Is there any routing
 happening on the 'back side', in other words can one router choose to go to
 the other router rather than out to the net?
 
 Looking at your stats from below, you don't have much traffic at all, in
 either direction. Your loads are low and per packet count (on 5 min moving
 average) is low.
 
 The questions about what routes you are receiving are relevant. Often you
 have 3 or so options:
 1. Receive full-routes (100,000 plus routes)
 2. Receive partial routes (i.e. routes for customers that belong to same AS
 that you get service from)
 3. Default route-only.
 
 Sorry if it seems I'm dragging you along, but there are several factors to
 consider when you are attempting to get load-sharing. Especially if you are
 connected to 2 separate routers on your provider's backbone.
 
 -chris
 
 
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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-26 Thread Achladi, Janardhana, NPONS

Check

sh ip bgp neigh 63.122.163.89 routes
sh ip bgp neigh 63.122.163.89 advertised-routes


sh ip bgp neigh 63.122.163.93 routes
sh ip bgp neigh 63.122.163.93 advertised-routes


If results of both above commands same, then check for following
statement in bgp configuration

 maximum-paths 2

If not check the following page, which will help you troubleshoot
further.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/459/40.html


Hope this helps,
Thanks,
Jana.
-Original Message-
From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]


Looks like you are definately receiving default from your providers. 
If I remember correctly though your big concern was incoming traffic not
outgoing.  Like I mentioned in my previous email you need to talk to
your providers and find out how they are announcing your address space. 
For example if your provider A gave with a /26 subnet of a class C to
use from their space provider B will not be able to propagate this.  If
provider A gave you a full class C but are announcing a supernet and
provider B is annoucing the /24 porvider B will have the longest match.


  Dave

Jablonski, Michael wrote:
 
 Same routes via both connections.  this is our border router, no other
 routing on the inside..   We're probably receiving default routes.
 
 BGP router identifier 65.196.X.X, local AS number 7046
 BGP table version is 3, main routing table version 3
 2 network entries and 2 paths using 242 bytes of memory
 1 BGP path attribute entries using 92 bytes of memory
 BGP activity 2/0 prefixes, 2/0 paths
 
 NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
 State/PfxRcd
 
 63.122.163.89   4   701   13251   13282300 06:06:32

0
 63.122.163.93   4   701   13251   13278300 1w1d

0
 
 I really apprecaite the help I'm getting from everyone!  I only hope
that I
 get more exposure, to make studying for the CCNP worth it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kane, Christopher A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
 
  Inbound/Outbound loads are out of wack  what part of the
  BGP neigh stats
  do you want to see?
 
 I'm referring to simply 'sh ip bgp sum', as this will show the amount
of
 prefixes that you receive on each connection. So if I've read all of
the
 threads correctly, you have 2 T1's at 2 physically separate locations
but
 the same provider. I still have more questions than answers at this
point.
 Are you advertising any routes or the same routes via both
connections?
 (i.e. mail server, ftp server, dns server, etc...) Is there any
routing
 happening on the 'back side', in other words can one router choose to
go to
 the other router rather than out to the net?
 
 Looking at your stats from below, you don't have much traffic at all,
in
 either direction. Your loads are low and per packet count (on 5 min
moving
 average) is low.
 
 The questions about what routes you are receiving are relevant. Often
you
 have 3 or so options:
 1. Receive full-routes (100,000 plus routes)
 2. Receive partial routes (i.e. routes for customers that belong to
same AS
 that you get service from)
 3. Default route-only.
 
 Sorry if it seems I'm dragging you along, but there are several
factors to
 consider when you are attempting to get load-sharing. Especially if
you are
 connected to 2 separate routers on your provider's backbone.
 
 -chris
 


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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-25 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

 I am experiencing a similar problem, using one provider with two T1s.
 Utilization appears to significantly favor one interface over 
 the other.  I
 realize there will be some variation, but considering its a 
 discrepancy of
 75% vs. 3% (these are numbers from our provider)  I've 
 talked to the
 provider; each time I receive a different configuration.
 
 Is there a command that would better show the load 
 balancing/utilization
 rates.  I'm trying to become more familiar with BGP through 
 my CCNP studies,
 but haven't gotten that far yet   Thanks in advance for the help!

I'm not sure I understand what you are describing. Are you saying that the
BGP routes you receive from your provider are mainly coming over one link
rather than the other? Or, are you saying that your inbound/outbound loads
are uneven? Can you be a little more specific, perhaps, even show some
snapshots of the interfaces? And your BGP neigh stats?

My first suspicion, (if you are talking about inbound/outbound traffic
loads) would be that caching has caused this load disparity. Do you know if
CEF was implemented?

-chris




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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-25 Thread Jablonski, Michael

The Ts are connected to two different routers at different locations
The IP space is the providers  What do you mean full vs. default/partial
routes (Pardon my ignorance; I wish LAN/WAN communications was the only
thing to work on)?

Thanks for the quick response!

-Original Message-
From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]


Are the t1's connected to different routers in the providers POP, or to
geographically diverse POP's?  Is the IP space your own ARIN assigned space
or the providers?  Do you take full bgp routes or just a default or partial
routes?  Any answer would depend on the answers to these questions.  As far
as seeing the real load balancing, use MRTG to graph the interfaces, that
will give you a good idea of how your bandwidth is being utilized.

~-Original Message-
~From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
~Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:49 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
~
~
~I am experiencing a similar problem, using one provider with two T1s.
~Utilization appears to significantly favor one interface over 
~the other.  I
~realize there will be some variation, but considering its a 
~discrepancy of
~75% vs. 3% (these are numbers from our provider)  I've 
~talked to the
~provider; each time I receive a different configuration.
~
~Is there a command that would better show the load 
~balancing/utilization
~rates.  I'm trying to become more familiar with BGP through my 
~CCNP studies,
~but haven't gotten that far yet   Thanks in advance for the help!
~
~
~

~Michael Jablonski
~ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
~161 North Clark St.
~9th Flr
~Chicago, IL  60601-2468
~PH: 312.884.2996 
~FAX: 312.278.5550

~


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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-25 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Inbound/Outbound loads are out of wack  what part of the BGP neigh stats
do you want to see?

Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is QUICC with integrated T1 CSU/DSU
  Description: To provider1
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, load 5/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  77766, LMI stat recvd 77766, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 12963/0, interface
broadcasts 3
  Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters never
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 5642 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 181000 bits/sec, 35 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 31000 bits/sec, 8 packets/sec
 14791247 packets input, 3209509245 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 1 giants, 0 throttles
 15143 input errors, 593 CRC, 8555 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 5994
abort
 6400415 packets output, 2339275311 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 8 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 3 carrier transitions
 DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up

Serial0/1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is QUICC with integrated T1 CSU/DSU
  Description: To provider2
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, load 6/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  77769, LMI stat recvd 77768, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 12964/0, interface
broadcasts 3
  Last input 00:00:05, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters never
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 9587 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 38000 bits/sec, 13 packets/sec
 183425 packets input, 8800740 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 2893 input errors, 628 CRC, 2175 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 90 abort
 6083912 packets output, 2163859526 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 7 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 3 carrier transitions
 DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up



-Original Message-
From: Kane, Christopher A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

I'm not sure I understand what you are describing. Are you saying that the
BGP routes you receive from your provider are mainly coming over one link
rather than the other? Or, are you saying that your inbound/outbound loads
are uneven? Can you be a little more specific, perhaps, even show some
snapshots of the interfaces? And your BGP neigh stats?

My first suspicion, (if you are talking about inbound/outbound traffic
loads) would be that caching has caused this load disparity. Do you know if
CEF was implemented?

-chris
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Re: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-25 Thread MADMAN

Do the addresses come from one of the providers and if so is the other
provider annoucing this network?  If so is this other provider
announcing a longer match thereby being prefered?  

I'm guessing your not getting full routes, partial routes are a
providers own networks and those of it's customers.

  I can't see what you could possibly do to your router config to affect
the incoming packets since you don't own the network as path prepending
won;t help.

  Dave


Jablonski, Michael wrote:
 
 The Ts are connected to two different routers at different locations
 The IP space is the providers  What do you mean full vs.
default/partial
 routes (Pardon my ignorance; I wish LAN/WAN communications was the only
 thing to work on)?
 
 Thanks for the quick response!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
 
 Are the t1's connected to different routers in the providers POP, or to
 geographically diverse POP's?  Is the IP space your own ARIN assigned space
 or the providers?  Do you take full bgp routes or just a default or partial
 routes?  Any answer would depend on the answers to these questions.  As far
 as seeing the real load balancing, use MRTG to graph the interfaces, that
 will give you a good idea of how your bandwidth is being utilized.
 
 ~-Original Message-
 ~From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 ~Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:49 PM
 ~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~Subject: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
 ~
 ~
 ~I am experiencing a similar problem, using one provider with two T1s.
 ~Utilization appears to significantly favor one interface over
 ~the other.  I
 ~realize there will be some variation, but considering its a
 ~discrepancy of
 ~75% vs. 3% (these are numbers from our provider)  I've
 ~talked to the
 ~provider; each time I receive a different configuration.
 ~
 ~Is there a command that would better show the load
 ~balancing/utilization
 ~rates.  I'm trying to become more familiar with BGP through my
 ~CCNP studies,
 ~but haven't gotten that far yet   Thanks in advance for the help!
 ~
 ~
 ~
 
 ~Michael Jablonski
 ~ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
 ~161 North Clark St.
 ~9th Flr
 ~Chicago, IL  60601-2468
 ~PH: 312.884.2996
 ~FAX: 312.278.5550
 
 ~
 
 
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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-25 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

 Inbound/Outbound loads are out of wack  what part of the 
 BGP neigh stats
 do you want to see?

I'm referring to simply 'sh ip bgp sum', as this will show the amount of
prefixes that you receive on each connection. So if I've read all of the
threads correctly, you have 2 T1's at 2 physically separate locations but
the same provider. I still have more questions than answers at this point.
Are you advertising any routes or the same routes via both connections?
(i.e. mail server, ftp server, dns server, etc...) Is there any routing
happening on the 'back side', in other words can one router choose to go to
the other router rather than out to the net? 

Looking at your stats from below, you don't have much traffic at all, in
either direction. Your loads are low and per packet count (on 5 min moving
average) is low.

The questions about what routes you are receiving are relevant. Often you
have 3 or so options:
1. Receive full-routes (100,000 plus routes)
2. Receive partial routes (i.e. routes for customers that belong to same AS
that you get service from)
3. Default route-only.

Sorry if it seems I'm dragging you along, but there are several factors to
consider when you are attempting to get load-sharing. Especially if you are
connected to 2 separate routers on your provider's backbone.

-chris


 
 Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up
   Hardware is QUICC with integrated T1 CSU/DSU
   Description: To provider1
   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, 
 load 5/255
   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive 
 set (10 sec)
   LMI enq sent  77766, LMI stat recvd 77766, LMI upd recvd 0, 
 DTE LMI up
   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
   LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE
   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 12963/0, interface
 broadcasts 3
   Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never
   Last clearing of show interface counters never
   Queueing strategy: fifo
   Output queue 0/40, 5642 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
   5 minute input rate 181000 bits/sec, 35 packets/sec
   5 minute output rate 31000 bits/sec, 8 packets/sec
  14791247 packets input, 3209509245 bytes, 0 no buffer
  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 1 giants, 0 throttles
  15143 input errors, 593 CRC, 8555 frame, 0 overrun, 0 
 ignored, 5994
 abort
  6400415 packets output, 2339275311 bytes, 0 underruns
  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 8 interface resets
  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
  3 carrier transitions
  DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up
 
 Serial0/1 is up, line protocol is up
   Hardware is QUICC with integrated T1 CSU/DSU
   Description: To provider2
   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, 
 load 6/255
   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive 
 set (10 sec)
   LMI enq sent  77769, LMI stat recvd 77768, LMI upd recvd 0, 
 DTE LMI up
   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
   LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE
   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 12964/0, interface
 broadcasts 3
   Last input 00:00:05, output 00:00:00, output hang never
   Last clearing of show interface counters never
   Queueing strategy: fifo
   Output queue 0/40, 9587 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
   5 minute output rate 38000 bits/sec, 13 packets/sec
  183425 packets input, 8800740 bytes, 0 no buffer
  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
  2893 input errors, 628 CRC, 2175 frame, 0 overrun, 0 
 ignored, 90 abort
  6083912 packets output, 2163859526 bytes, 0 underruns
  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 7 interface resets
  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
  3 carrier transitions
  DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kane, Christopher A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:56 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
 
 I'm not sure I understand what you are describing. Are you 
 saying that the
 BGP routes you receive from your provider are mainly coming 
 over one link
 rather than the other? Or, are you saying that your 
 inbound/outbound loads
 are uneven? Can you be a little more specific, perhaps, even show some
 snapshots of the interfaces? And your BGP neigh stats?
 
 My first suspicion, (if you are talking about inbound/outbound traffic
 loads) would be that caching has caused this load disparity. 
 Do you know if
 CEF was implemented?
 
 -chris
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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-25 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Same routes via both connections.  this is our border router, no other
routing on the inside..   We're probably receiving default routes.


BGP router identifier 65.196.X.X, local AS number 7046
BGP table version is 3, main routing table version 3
2 network entries and 2 paths using 242 bytes of memory
1 BGP path attribute entries using 92 bytes of memory
BGP activity 2/0 prefixes, 2/0 paths

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
State/PfxRcd

63.122.163.89   4   701   13251   13282300 06:06:320
63.122.163.93   4   701   13251   13278300 1w1d0



I really apprecaite the help I'm getting from everyone!  I only hope that I
get more exposure, to make studying for the CCNP worth it


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From: Kane, Christopher A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:34 PM
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Subject: RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]


 Inbound/Outbound loads are out of wack  what part of the 
 BGP neigh stats
 do you want to see?

I'm referring to simply 'sh ip bgp sum', as this will show the amount of
prefixes that you receive on each connection. So if I've read all of the
threads correctly, you have 2 T1's at 2 physically separate locations but
the same provider. I still have more questions than answers at this point.
Are you advertising any routes or the same routes via both connections?
(i.e. mail server, ftp server, dns server, etc...) Is there any routing
happening on the 'back side', in other words can one router choose to go to
the other router rather than out to the net? 

Looking at your stats from below, you don't have much traffic at all, in
either direction. Your loads are low and per packet count (on 5 min moving
average) is low.

The questions about what routes you are receiving are relevant. Often you
have 3 or so options:
1. Receive full-routes (100,000 plus routes)
2. Receive partial routes (i.e. routes for customers that belong to same AS
that you get service from)
3. Default route-only.

Sorry if it seems I'm dragging you along, but there are several factors to
consider when you are attempting to get load-sharing. Especially if you are
connected to 2 separate routers on your provider's backbone.

-chris




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RE: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]

2002-04-24 Thread Lupi, Guy

Are the t1's connected to different routers in the providers POP, or to
geographically diverse POP's?  Is the IP space your own ARIN assigned space
or the providers?  Do you take full bgp routes or just a default or partial
routes?  Any answer would depend on the answers to these questions.  As far
as seeing the real load balancing, use MRTG to graph the interfaces, that
will give you a good idea of how your bandwidth is being utilized.

~-Original Message-
~From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
~Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:49 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: BGP Load Balancing Question [7:42469]
~
~
~I am experiencing a similar problem, using one provider with two T1s.
~Utilization appears to significantly favor one interface over 
~the other.  I
~realize there will be some variation, but considering its a 
~discrepancy of
~75% vs. 3% (these are numbers from our provider)  I've 
~talked to the
~provider; each time I receive a different configuration.
~
~Is there a command that would better show the load 
~balancing/utilization
~rates.  I'm trying to become more familiar with BGP through my 
~CCNP studies,
~but haven't gotten that far yet   Thanks in advance for the help!
~
~
~

~Michael Jablonski
~ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
~161 North Clark St.
~9th Flr
~Chicago, IL  60601-2468
~PH: 312.884.2996 
~FAX: 312.278.5550

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~-Original Message-
~From: Michael Bray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
~Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:17 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: BGP route selection question [7:42456]
~
~
~I have a router that is running BGP to two different providers...  When
~I show the bgp entry for two different routes, it shows that one
~provider is selected for one route, and the other provider is selected
~for the other route, even though they seem to have the same AS path
~length from each provider.  There isn't any difference as far as I can
~tell for MED or local preference settings or anything like that...
~The route on the bottom looks normal - its being chosen (I assume)
~because the 64.*.*.* has the lower router ID (207.* instead of 208.*).
~The first entry is the one that doesn't make sense to me - shouldn't it
~also be selecting the 64.* router, by virtue of its lower ID?  I see
~that there are different values for the version, but I'm not 
~sure this
~would have anything to do with it??
~
~rtr#show ip bgp 64.170.96.0/19
~BGP routing table entry for 64.170.96.0/19, version 16127
~Paths: (2 available, best #2, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
~  Not advertised to any peer
~  4323 1239 5673
~64.132.248.89 from 64.132.248.89 (207.67.76.17)
~  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
~  3561 1239 5673
~208.174.151.61 from 208.174.151.61 (208.172.66.20)
~  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
~
~rtr#show ip bgp 12.3.59.0
~BGP routing table entry for 12.3.59.0/24, version 742
~Paths: (2 available, best #2, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
~  Not advertised to any peer
~  3561 4513 17304
~208.174.151.61 from 208.174.151.61 (208.172.66.20)
~  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
~  4323 4513 17304
~64.132.248.89 from 64.132.248.89 (207.67.76.17)
~  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
~
~ip classless
~ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 208.174.151.61
~ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 64.132.248.89
~ip as-path access-list 78 permit ^$
~
~
~-Mike Bray
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