Re: CID help
According to the suggestions of the Cisco groupstudy, the Cisco Internetwork Design of Cisco Press is good of CID exam. I am preparing CID with this book, and also use Robert Padjen's Cisco Internetwork Design Study Guide of Sybex to complete the study. Sophie "Jeff McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8urnjc$gqf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8urnjc$gqf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere > > What would you say is the best study book for DPs CID test? I usually use > examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied other > materials...something comperable to the examcram in terms of concise prep > would be what Im looking for. Any suggestions? > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID help
I have to agree. The Sybex along with the Boson Exams are more than enough. my .02 cents Ryan Sheahan Network Engineer CCNP, CCDP, NCAE Greenwhich Technology Partners -Original Message- From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:26 PM To: Jeff McCoy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID help Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it covers the material well and I've not received any significant negatives, other than a desire that I had put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the material needed for the exam is present on these topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems, along with other newer technologies, as opposed to rehashing older ones. Good luck. --- Jeff McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere > > What would you say is the best study book for DPs > CID test? I usually use > examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied > other > materials...something comperable to the examcram in > terms of concise prep > would be what Im looking for. Any suggestions? > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID help
Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it covers the material well and I've not received any significant negatives, other than a desire that I had put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the material needed for the exam is present on these topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems, along with other newer technologies, as opposed to rehashing older ones. Good luck. --- Jeff McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere > > What would you say is the best study book for DPs > CID test? I usually use > examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied > other > materials...something comperable to the examcram in > terms of concise prep > would be what Im looking for. Any suggestions? > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Help needed
In a message dated 10/26/00 1:19:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Dear Friends, > I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am studying from the cisco > press book which I have heard does not cover all the topics from the > exam point of view. Any input will be helpful. > thanks. > Omer Ehsan Dar > "Top Down Network Design" by Priscilla O. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If you need luck, apparently you're not prepared...Go study!" ~Mark Zabludovsky~ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Help needed
Omer, I used the Todd Lammle book from Sybex along with the CID tests from Boson. I found the tests very helpful in helping me focus in certain areas and fill in gaps from the book. I passed the test last night with a 79%!! Good luck, Don -Original Message- From: Omer Ehsan Dar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Help needed Dear Friends, I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am studying from the cisco press book which I have heard does not cover all the topics from the exam point of view. Any input will be helpful. thanks. Omer Ehsan Dar _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Help needed
With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;) Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide - it is a solid reference and she is a good writer. She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today - note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well, including Priscilla's kind words. --- Omer Ehsan Dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Friends, > I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am > studying from the cisco > press book which I have heard does not cover all the > topics from the > exam point of view. Any input will be helpful. > thanks. > Omer Ehsan Dar > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Help needed
Title: RE: CID Help needed Robert, I ordered your book but have not received it as of yet. Do you feel that you cover the Stratacom topics well enough? Or will I have to find material on this topic elsewhere? This seems to be the biggest complaint on this test. Thanks! Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:18 PM To: Omer Ehsan Dar; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID Help needed With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;) Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide - it is a solid reference and she is a good writer. She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today - note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well, including Priscilla's kind words. --- Omer Ehsan Dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Friends, > I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am > studying from the cisco > press book which I have heard does not cover all the > topics from the > exam point of view. Any input will be helpful. > thanks. > Omer Ehsan Dar > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Help needed
Hello Mr. Robert, I have bought you book (CID Study Guide) today .. I have a fast review I say Very good .. even you give more detail of the job of a network designer (some question Mrs. Priscilla help me with a good answers). I will use your book with the Cisco CID books "still waiting for a the Cisco design books :) " Thanks, Mohammed Hakim CCNA R/S - Original Message - From: Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Omer Ehsan Dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:17 PM Subject: Re: CID Help needed > With bias I will recommend the Sybex text. ;) > Priscilla's book is very good but is not a study guide > - it is a solid reference and she is a good writer. > She developed most of the CID materials for Cisco. My > book is about 60% test prep to the exam and 40% today > - note that the test is very old and somewhat dated. I > have a number of very nice reviews on Amazon as well, > including Priscilla's kind words. > > --- Omer Ehsan Dar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I am appearing for my CID exam next week. I am > > studying from the cisco > > press book which I have heard does not cover all the > > topics from the > > exam point of view. Any input will be helpful. > > thanks. > > Omer Ehsan Dar > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review
Caveat Emptor. Quick and dirty review after taking the test. With all due respect to the author(s), I do not recommend the Sybex book mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test. The book is deficient in the areas of X.25, SNA, Campus Lan Design, Desktop Protocol Design, Wan Design and especially security. I do recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the areas that I was tested over are adequately covered and in greater detail. This is the second Sybex book that I have purchased that is inadequate. I found Sybex is good for Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero for Cisco. Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct content. Recommendation. Unless you must pass the 640-025 test soon, I would wait until the self study material catches up with the new CID test. Until then make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco Internetwork Design* by Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via the program at www.openwindow.com. The attached links will help you with your studies over SNA. There are probably more and better links but these are the ones that I have found so far. Good Luck, John Huston A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly > biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it > covers the material well and I've not received any > significant negatives, other than a desire that I had > put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the > material needed for the exam is present on these > topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems, > along with other newer technologies, as opposed to > rehashing older ones. > > Good luck. > > --- Jeff McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere > > > > What would you say is the best study book for DPs > > CID test? I usually use > > examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied > > other > > materials...something comperable to the examcram in > > terms of concise prep > > would be what Im looking for. Any suggestions? > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! > http://calendar.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > begin 666 IBM Networking.url M6T1%1D%53%1=#0I"05-%55),/6AT=' Z+R]W=W"YH=&T-"EM);G1E"YH=&T-"DUO9&EF:65D/3(P139$0T0S,3(V-4,P,#%%1 T*26-O;D9I M;&4]:'1T<#HO+W=W=RYC:7-C;RYC;VTO9F%V:6-O;BYI8V\-"DEC;VY);F1E %>#TQ#0H` ` end begin 666 Appendix D- SNA Host Configuration for SDLC Networks.url M6TEN=&5R;F5T4VAO#TQ#0H` ` end begin 666 IBM Network Management.url M6T1%1D%53%1=#0I"05-%55),/6AT=' Z+R]W=W
RE: CID help/Sybex Book Review
I echo John's comments. While I didn't have the ciscopress book, I did have the official course materials from the CID class I took in 98. However, I took the exam in September 00 so I bought the Sybex book for review. While it did discuss X.25, SNA, & the StrataCom Line, the exam asked questions that were simply not in the text. Boson was a little more in depth and the course material provided a little more information for me. But again, there were a few questions that were simply not covered in the three items I used to prepare myself for the exam. Still passed with a slightly lower score than I was achieving on the other Cisco exams. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Huston > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review > > > Caveat Emptor. Quick and dirty review after taking the test. > > With all due respect to the author(s), I do not recommend the > Sybex book > mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test. > > The book is deficient in the areas of X.25, SNA, Campus Lan Design, > Desktop Protocol Design, Wan Design and especially security. I do > recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the areas that > I was tested > over are adequately covered and in greater detail. This is > the second Sybex > book that I have purchased that is inadequate. I found Sybex > is good for > Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero for Cisco. > > Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct content. > > Recommendation. Unless you must pass the 640-025 test soon, > I would wait > until the self study material catches up with the new CID > test. Until then > make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco > Internetwork Design* by > Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via the program at > www.openwindow.com. The attached links will help you with > your studies over > SNA. There are probably more and better links but these are > the ones that I > have found so far. > > Good Luck, > > John Huston > A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Strongly suggest the Sybex CID text, but I'm slightly > > biased and recommend a recount! ;) Seriously, it > > covers the material well and I've not received any > > significant negatives, other than a desire that I had > > put more mainframe and x.25 into the text. All of the > > material needed for the exam is present on these > > topics, and I opted to include DSL and cable modems, > > along with other newer technologies, as opposed to > > rehashing older ones. > > > > Good luck. > > > > --- Jeff McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry to reask this I know Ive seen it somewhere > > > > > > What would you say is the best study book for DPs > > > CID test? I usually use > > > examcram and boson to prepare after I have studied > > > other > > > materials...something comperable to the examcram in > > > terms of concise prep > > > would be what Im looking for. Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > = > > Robert Padjen > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! > > http://calendar.yahoo.com/ > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review
While the CID test is challenging, it is easily passed if the complete and well presented material is available to learn from. I noticed that Boson responded quickly by revising their tests. Perhaps Sybex will quickly respond with additions and corrections that can be downloaded. In a rapidly changing environment like IT/IS it would seem best to have the ability to be adaptive and informative. Robert's response to my message indicated that I was making a personal critique rather than a review of the book. I am sorry if my communication gives this impression. Again, my reason for advising about the book is to help others in this forum who like me are here to learn from mistakes, share experiences and then build upon them. While this forum isn't perfect, it does an excellent job of convenient cooperative learning. My remarks were not scathing, just factual. As to Robert's request to give a more detailed critique of the book, I am not completely familiar with the Cisco's Non-Disclosure Agreement but would assume that I/we would be violation of the agreement to do a question-by-question comparison of the exam to the material of the book in a public or private forum. Rather, I suggest that Robert re-take the 640-025 exam and then respond with the additions and corrections to the book that could be easily obtained. Outside of that, I am available on a fee basis. ;-) I further suggest to Robert/Sybex that the phrase on outside cover and on page xxix "Everything You Need to Know to Pass the Cisco Internetwork Design Exam" be removed. Considering Robert's qualifying remarks to me, probably supports the need to do this. This was not my experience and evidently not so for others as well. I did find the book easy to read but, lacked the necessary content to pass the 640-025 exam which has been my experience with Sybex books written for Cisco exams. On the hand, I have had positive experiences using Sybex books while pursing my CNE and MSCE certifications. The Sybex book for the Microsoft Exchange 5.5 exam was so well written that I was able to read it in a week and then pass the exam without any other material. Happy Holidays. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .net... > I echo John's comments. While I didn't have the > ciscopress book, I did have the official course > materials from the CID class I took in 98. However, I > took the exam in September 00 so I bought the Sybex book > for review. While it did discuss X.25, SNA, & the > StrataCom Line, the exam asked questions that were > simply not in the text. Boson was a little more in > depth and the course material provided a little more > information for me. But again, there were a few > questions that were simply not covered in the three > items I used to prepare myself for the exam. Still > passed with a slightly lower score than I was achieving > on the other Cisco exams. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > John Huston > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:48 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CID help/Sybex Book Review > > > > > > Caveat Emptor. Quick and dirty review after taking > the test. > > > > With all due respect to the author(s), I do not > recommend the > > Sybex book > > mentioned below for use to study the 640-025 test. > > > > The book is deficient in the areas of X.25, SNA, > Campus Lan Design, > > Desktop Protocol Design, Wan Design and especially > security. I do > > recommend the Cisco Press book because all of the > areas that > > I was tested > > over are adequately covered and in greater detail. > This is > > the second Sybex > > book that I have purchased that is inadequate. I > found Sybex > > is good for > > Microsoft and Novell but so far it is a batting a zero > for Cisco. > > > > Additionally, the Boson tests lack in the correct > content. > > > > Recommendation. Unless you must pass the 640-025 test > soon, > > I would wait > > until the self study material catches up with the new > CID > > test. Until then > > make sure that you buy the Cisco Press book *Cisco > > Internetwork Design* by > > Matthew Birkner and make you own study questions via > the program at > > www.openwindow.com. The attached links will help you > with > > your studies over > > SNA. There are probably more and better links but > these are > > the ones that I > > have found so far. > > > > Good Luck, > > > > John Huston > > A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > "
RE: CID help needed [7:37854]
go to www.cisco.com Click technical documents. Look 1/2 way down on the left hand side. "Internetwork Design Guide.". top down network design is also a good book, (you'll have to buy it) and the internetworking case studies are helpful in finding the cisco way of doing things. -eh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID help needed [7:37854] Hi all, I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody point me out where to find it ? Or mail it to me ? Cheers and thanx in advanced Ronald The Netherlands Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37857&t=37854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID help needed [7:37854]
Here is a link to www.amazon.com that has the book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578701716/qid=1015901893/sr=1-3/ref= sr_1_3/104-1616250-9067969 Adrian wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi all, > > I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody > point me out where to find it ? Or mail it to me ? > > Cheers and thanx in advanced > > Ronald > > The Netherlands Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37926&t=37854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
