RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
problems.

As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
interested in it if someone has a good tip.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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Re: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Cisco Nuts

What's a media filter? Sorry!! :-(
Is it just a DB-9 adapter that I plug in to the DB-9 connector on the 2502? 
Is so, what would be the pin-out's, specifically the colors?
Thank you.

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>Subject: Re: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:17:23 -0400
>
>
>You need a Token Ring Media filter to convert the DB15 Token Ring Interface
>on the 2502 router to UTP.Some media filters have UTP cables built in.
>Others, just have an RJ45 jack.   For the RJ45 jack version, a regular
>cat-5 patch cable from the media filter to the MAU will work fine.   As far
>as I know, there isn't anyway to fake out Token RIng and eliminate the MAU
>(unlike Ethernet or Serial where it is easy to make a back to back cable).
>Hope this helps.
>
>--Jon Maiman
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>Hi,
>Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502
>routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out
>for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
>Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in
>a
>UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
>Please advise.
>Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Hire, Ejay

To connect token ring device you have to use a mau.  It provides electrical
and signalling functions that cannot be replicated with a cable.

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Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
problems.

As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
interested in it if someone has a good tip.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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Re: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread EA Louie

Yes.  use a device known as a type 3 media filter - it's a DB-9 male
connector that converts to an RJ-45 (basically, an STP to UTP converter)  It
has electronic components in it, so don't try to use a standard DB-9 PC
Serial type connector.

You can't fake a Token Ring interface into an up/up state with no keepalive.
It needs to be physically inserted into a ring.

If you have 2 2502's, you'll need 2 media filters.  They're available in
many different places - I know Ortronics manufactures them, and they are
available on eBay (search in Computers:Networking using 'media filter')

-e-

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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


> Hi,
> Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502
> routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out
> for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
> Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in
a
> UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
> Please advise.
> Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Peter Slow

wait, 2502 has rj45 coneector, not db-9?

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Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
problems.

As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
interested in it if someone has a good tip.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Peter Slow

the pins that are used on the rj45 side are 3,4,5,6, on the db-9 
the pins that are used are the two outermost pins on each side, looking at
it horizontally.

look on the web for the pinouts, thats where i found them, though i dont
remember the site, then go to radio shack, buy a db-9 connector, and do it
yourself =)

it worked when i did it =P


-Peter
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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Hold on before you do anything.

If you connect something wrong to your MAU, there's a great chance of
burning one of the fuses in there, so be sure you have the right cable and
converter.

The media filter is a converter that plugs in to the DB9, and that has a
jack for an RJ45 cable.

Once you got that, you can use a normal (straight through) CAT5 cable to
your MAU.

I am not familiar with your MAU, but if it's not an advanced one, you might
have to place a CAT5 cable from the OUT port to the IN port in order to
"close" the ring.

Hth,

Ole

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Just a regular cat 5 cable!!
Feel so stupid without even trying it first!!:-)
Let me give that a shot.
Thank you very much!!

A CCIE sent me an email saying that it was possible to create a virtual TR 
interface but I really don't understand what he meant. Have not heard back 
from him yet? :-)

>From: Ole Drews Jensen 
>To: 'Cisco Nuts' , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:19:18 -0500
>
>I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
>problems.
>
>As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
>interested in it if someone has a good tip.
>
>Hth,
>
>Ole
>
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>Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
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>
>Hi,
>Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502
>routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out
>for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
>Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in 
>a
>
>UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
>Please advise.
>Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

No it doesn't, unless you have a special older/newer/weirder model?

Mine has DB9 - look at the picture on my CCNP site - it's the one at the
buttom.

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Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


wait, 2502 has rj45 coneector, not db-9?

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Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
problems.

As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
interested in it if someone has a good tip.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Peter Slow

ive done this. you just need to know the pinouts and make the cable
properly.


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Subject: Re: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Yes.  use a device known as a type 3 media filter - it's a DB-9 male
connector that converts to an RJ-45 (basically, an STP to UTP converter)  It
has electronic components in it, so don't try to use a standard DB-9 PC
Serial type connector.

You can't fake a Token Ring interface into an up/up state with no keepalive.
It needs to be physically inserted into a ring.

If you have 2 2502's, you'll need 2 media filters.  They're available in
many different places - I know Ortronics manufactures them, and they are
available on eBay (search in Computers:Networking using 'media filter')

-e-

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From: Cisco Nuts 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


> Hi,
> Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502
> routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out
> for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
> Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in
a
> UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
> Please advise.
> Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Peter Slow

MAUs are passive, and dont provide anything except electrical resistance and
some relays.
it doesnt signal anything you cant replicate by shorting out contacts with a
paperclip!!
-Peter

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To connect token ring device you have to use a mau.  It provides electrical
and signalling functions that cannot be replicated with a cable.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
problems.

As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
interested in it if someone has a good tip.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

Looked up some old posts and found the following sources for Type 3 media
filters:
Pacific Cable $17, 
Cabling System Warehouse part no 205-01-rj45 $15.66,
See also:
http://www.ortronics.com/products/search/default.asp?product=media+filter&sh
ow=5 item # OR-60100015

Know that I've seen a web site that showed the components. Don't have time
to search.

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> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
> 
> 
> What's a media filter? Sorry!! :-(
> Is it just a DB-9 adapter that I plug in to the DB-9 
> connector on the 2502? 
> Is so, what would be the pin-out's, specifically the colors?
> Thank you.
> 
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "Cisco Nuts" 
> >Subject: Re: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
> >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:17:23 -0400
> >
> >
> >You need a Token Ring Media filter to convert the DB15 Token 
> Ring Interface
> >on the 2502 router to UTP.Some media filters have UTP 
> cables built in.
> >Others, just have an RJ45 jack.   For the RJ45 jack version, 
> a regular
> >cat-5 patch cable from the media filter to the MAU will work 
> fine.   As far
> >as I know, there isn't anyway to fake out Token RIng and 
> eliminate the MAU
> >(unlike Ethernet or Serial where it is easy to make a back 
> to back cable).
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >--Jon Maiman
> >CCNP, CCDP, Preparing for CCIE LAB in October
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Cisco Nuts" @groupstudy.com on 07/11/2001 12:25:01
> >PM
> >
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> >
> >Subject:  Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to 
> connect my 2 2502
> >routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a 
> special pin-out
> >for building TR cables or will a regular 
> cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
> >Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake 
> the TR int. in
> >a
> >UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for 
> E0 interfaces?
> >Please advise.
> >Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Hire, Ejay

So, is it possible to create a "Crossover-ring" cable to connect two
token-ring devices together?

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Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


MAUs are passive, and dont provide anything except electrical resistance and
some relays.
it doesnt signal anything you cant replicate by shorting out contacts with a
paperclip!!
-Peter

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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


To connect token ring device you have to use a mau.  It provides electrical
and signalling functions that cannot be replicated with a cable.

-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]


I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
problems.

As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
interested in it if someone has a good tip.

Hth,

Ole

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Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502 
routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out 
for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in a

UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Cisco Nuts

So how do I do this?? :-)


>From: "Hire, Ejay" 
>Reply-To: "Hire, Ejay" 
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>Subject: RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]
>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:14:59 -0400
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>So, is it possible to create a "Crossover-ring" cable to connect two
>token-ring devices together?
>
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>
>MAUs are passive, and dont provide anything except electrical resistance 
>and
>some relays.
>it doesnt signal anything you cant replicate by shorting out contacts with 
>a
>paperclip!!
>-Peter
>
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>To connect token ring device you have to use a mau.  It provides electrical
>and signalling functions that cannot be replicated with a cable.
>
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>
>I am using a CAT5 cable to connect my 2502 to my TR MAU without any
>problems.
>
>As for doing it without a MAU, I do not know the answer, but would be
>interested in it if someone has a good tip.
>
>Hth,
>
>Ole
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>
>Hi,
>Does anyone know what kind of cable do I need to use to connect my 2 2502
>routers to an Andrew mau that has RJ-45 ports? Is there a special pin-out
>for building TR cables or will a regular cat-5(straight-thru) cable work?
>Also, if I do NOT want to use a MAU, is there a way to fake the TR int. in 
>a
>
>UP/UP state similiar to the # no keepalive command used for E0 interfaces?
>Please advise.
>Thank you.
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RE: Cable connection from a 2502---> Andrew mau?? [7:11961]

2001-07-11 Thread Ted Dronen

Transmit pairs are 3 and 6, and Receive are 4 and 5 for Token Ring RJ45
interfaces.

Fabricate a patch cable pinned out to the 568-B wiring standard on one end,
and change the other end to cross transmit an receive pairs.

End A

Pin 1 OrangeWhite
Pin 2 Orange
Pin 3 GreenWhite
Pin 4 Blue
Pin 5 BlueWhite
Pin 6 Green
Pin 7 BrownWhite
Pin 8 Brown


End B

Pin 1 OrangeWhite
Pin 2 Orange
Pin 3 BlueWhite
Pin 4 Green
Pin 5 GreenWhite
Pin 6 Blue
Pin 7 BrownWhite
Pin 8 Brown

That would provide a crossover patch cable for token ring to directly
connect two token ring devices.

Another approach, if you're interested, is to fabricate a loopback plug. 
Use the same concept, but apply it to a single RJ45 plug.  What you should
end up with is a plug that has one wire connecting pin 3 to pin 5, and pin 4
to pin 6.  See if that will put your interface in to looped mode when you do
a show interface.

Hope this helps.



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