Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
One last response: I misunderstood also. I thought the objection you'd raised was to the value of a glossary of terms and that it wasn't worth having to wade through a Cisco promo. I apologize for the confusion too. Between the two of us we did pretty good, huh! David Armstrong "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I thought the message came directly from cisco. I don't like their > grandiose marketing style of writing. &;-) > > I don't have a problem with people telling us about books. That's a good thing. > > Regarding my book having a copyright of 1999, so? It teaches a network > design methodology that is timeless. I know of only a couple minor > anachronisms in it. > > Sorry I caused such an uproar! Puh-Leez do NOT respond to this message. > Thanks. > > Priscilla > > At 10:09 AM 11/17/00, David Armstrong wrote: > >Today, the area in your local area network is constantly being redefined. > >Employees and work groups are on the move. Is your network as mobile as your > >people are? > >Cisco Aironet® 340 series of wireless LAN and bridge products will add > >unparalleled mobility to your organization, quickly and cost-effectively. > >The flexibility provided by wireless LANs enables you to easily accomplish > >frequent LAN changes, even overcome limitations created by older buildings, > >leased space or temporary sites. To find out more about Cisco's wireless LAN > >solutions, visit http://www.cisco.com/offer/wireless_340/V609-100-92 and you > >will receive our FREE "Telecom & Networking Glossary" book. > >Sincerely, > > > >Bill Rossi > >Senior Director of Marketing > >Desktop Switching Business Unit > >Cisco Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
I thought the message came directly from cisco. I don't like their grandiose marketing style of writing. &;-) I don't have a problem with people telling us about books. That's a good thing. Regarding my book having a copyright of 1999, so? It teaches a network design methodology that is timeless. I know of only a couple minor anachronisms in it. Sorry I caused such an uproar! Puh-Leez do NOT respond to this message. Thanks. Priscilla At 10:09 AM 11/17/00, David Armstrong wrote: >Today, the area in your local area network is constantly being redefined. >Employees and work groups are on the move. Is your network as mobile as your >people are? >Cisco Aironet® 340 series of wireless LAN and bridge products will add >unparalleled mobility to your organization, quickly and cost-effectively. >The flexibility provided by wireless LANs enables you to easily accomplish >frequent LAN changes, even overcome limitations created by older buildings, >leased space or temporary sites. To find out more about Cisco's wireless LAN >solutions, visit http://www.cisco.com/offer/wireless_340/V609-100-92 and you >will receive our FREE "Telecom & Networking Glossary" book. >Sincerely, > >Bill Rossi >Senior Director of Marketing >Desktop Switching Business Unit >Cisco Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
And here I thought John Kaberna was kicked off the list... - Original Message - From: Hubert Branch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary I know I will receive criticism from this post, and that I rarely contribute (because unlike most of you, I have a real job, and limited time to read posts, let alone reply with long winded replies filled with the same content that can be found with a 30 second search on CCO) but there's a lot more stuff to be complaining about than marketing pitches on this site. Like people who ask the same questions that can be found in the archives, but are too lazy to look through them. Or the people who constantly schmooze up to Howard and Pricilla because they've written books. Top down has a copyright of 1999... We are almost to 2001. Please stop with the posts about it. If people want to compliment Pricilla on her book, don't do it on the list. We all know its out there, we all know its about design, and it has useful material on it. So, get back to work you sissies! Hubie ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Jim, On the contrary, I feel like I caused offense. I have very high respect for Priscilla and had no intention of getting this barrage started. David ""Jim Erickson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8v4d8u$h3l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8v4d8u$h3l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > ""Martin-Guy Richard"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Ho please David, keep sending link to free book. I understood that you > copied and > > pasted the Email... > > I didn't notice it was a copy/paste when I posted earlier - I thought it was > posted by someone at Cisco. Sorry, David, if I caused any offense. > > ---JRE--- > > > > David Armstrong wrote: > > > > > This has really gone a lot farther than I ever meant. I simply received > the > > > email from Cisco and cut-n-pasted it into this newsgroup thinking that a > > > glossary on Telecom and Networking might be useful to have as a > reference. I > > > guess I should have just put down "free book go here" rather than the > > > content of the email I received. I apologize for the confusion and for > > > starting a degradation thread for "Top Down Network Design". I think > it's an > > > awesome book that every network engineer should have. Now, please let's > stop > > > this discussion. If someone wants the book just go get it. > > > > > > Thanks and once again, I apologize. > > > > > > David Armstrong > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
""Martin-Guy Richard"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ho please David, keep sending link to free book. I understood that you copied and > pasted the Email... I didn't notice it was a copy/paste when I posted earlier - I thought it was posted by someone at Cisco. Sorry, David, if I caused any offense. ---JRE--- > David Armstrong wrote: > > > This has really gone a lot farther than I ever meant. I simply received the > > email from Cisco and cut-n-pasted it into this newsgroup thinking that a > > glossary on Telecom and Networking might be useful to have as a reference. I > > guess I should have just put down "free book go here" rather than the > > content of the email I received. I apologize for the confusion and for > > starting a degradation thread for "Top Down Network Design". I think it's an > > awesome book that every network engineer should have. Now, please let's stop > > this discussion. If someone wants the book just go get it. > > > > Thanks and once again, I apologize. > > > > David Armstrong > > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
>Wrong list again, Howard. That's twice today. > >Discussion of reels should be directed to one of the classic film lists. :-> > >Chuck You mean this isn't the list for The Cisco Kid? > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Howard C. Berkowitz >Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:02 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > >>I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and >>camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if >>that means banning shameless vendor plugs. > >Shameless vendor plugs? Like a DB60? > >Shameless crossover, rollover cables...the mind reels. > >:-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Note to myself: do not attempt to engage in public battles of wit. It will serve only to reveal to all that I am totally disarmed :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary >Wrong list again, Howard. That's twice today. > >Discussion of reels should be directed to one of the classic film lists. :-> > >Chuck You mean this isn't the list for The Cisco Kid? > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Howard C. Berkowitz >Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:02 PM >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > >>I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and >>camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if >>that means banning shameless vendor plugs. > >Shameless vendor plugs? Like a DB60? > >Shameless crossover, rollover cables...the mind reels. > >:-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Ho please David, keep sending link to free book. I understood that you copied and pasted the Email... MGR David Armstrong wrote: > This has really gone a lot farther than I ever meant. I simply received the > email from Cisco and cut-n-pasted it into this newsgroup thinking that a > glossary on Telecom and Networking might be useful to have as a reference. I > guess I should have just put down "free book go here" rather than the > content of the email I received. I apologize for the confusion and for > starting a degradation thread for "Top Down Network Design". I think it's an > awesome book that every network engineer should have. Now, please let's stop > this discussion. If someone wants the book just go get it. > > Thanks and once again, I apologize. > > David Armstrong > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
I know I will receive criticism from this post, and that I rarely contribute (because unlike most of you, I have a real job, and limited time to read posts, let alone reply with long winded replies filled with the same content that can be found with a 30 second search on CCO) but there's a lot more stuff to be complaining about than marketing pitches on this site. Like people who ask the same questions that can be found in the archives, but are too lazy to look through them. Or the people who constantly schmooze up to Howard and Pricilla because they've written books. Top down has a copyright of 1999... We are almost to 2001. Please stop with the posts about it. If people want to compliment Pricilla on her book, don't do it on the list. We all know its out there, we all know its about design, and it has useful material on it. So, get back to work you sissies! Hubie ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
This has really gone a lot farther than I ever meant. I simply received the email from Cisco and cut-n-pasted it into this newsgroup thinking that a glossary on Telecom and Networking might be useful to have as a reference. I guess I should have just put down "free book go here" rather than the content of the email I received. I apologize for the confusion and for starting a degradation thread for "Top Down Network Design". I think it's an awesome book that every network engineer should have. Now, please let's stop this discussion. If someone wants the book just go get it. Thanks and once again, I apologize. David Armstrong ""Jim Erickson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8v47pa$ate$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8v47pa$ate$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I don't think Priscilla's complaint was about the free book info itself, but > about the marketing text included with it in the original post and, more > importantly, that the post was from a person in the Cisco marketing dept. > [correct me if I'm wrong Priscilla] > > BTW, most times, if not everytime, during the 9 months or so I've been on > this list, when Priscilla's book is brought up, its not by Priscilla. > > ---JRE--- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Dan, I am happy to see you are a kindred soul, who reads these books not because they are required for certification, but because it makes you a better engineer. My respects to you, sir! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:09 PM To: 'Hicks, Randy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary I'm not clear as to your intent. However I'll answer. Priscilla's book is truely useful. Is is perhaps the best written book of any pertaining to Cisco knowledge. At most I had to reread two sentences in the entire book where the intent of the author was not immediately clear. Since Howard is not plugging his new book I'll mention it here and then quickly duck. WAN Survival Guide: Strategies for VPNs and Multiservice Networks by Howard C. Berkowitz ISBN: 0471384283 I support those who support us. > -Original Message- > From: Hicks, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:40 PM > To: 'David Armstrong'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > > > True. It is interesting that I never hear complaints when > Priscilla's book > is brought up for the millionth time. Huh? I wonder why? > > - Randy > > -Original Message- > From: David Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > > > While not a "learning" type of book a glossary of terms is sometimes a > useful reference. It really depends on how exhaustive the > glosary is. While > I understand your point, every Cisco freebie has an attached > Cisco "Buy > This" promo attached. Priscilla, your book had a promo > attached last year. > I'm not comparing the knowledge "Top Down Network Design" > contains to this > book at all but am making the argument that everything that > could be used as > a reference in any capacity has some value. > > I could see arguing that the free clock offer of late is completely > marketing dept. driven but I really think complaints about a > glossary of > terms is going overboard. That's my opinion though. > > David Armstrong > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Title: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary perhaps I spoke too hastily. but still, the post should have gone either to reel audio or to the society for the preservation of the Virginia reel :-> Chuck -Original Message-From: Taylor, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:48 PMTo: 'Chuck Larrieu'; Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary Mind reels? Does that have anything to do with monkeys and the Internet? - Don -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:31 PM To: Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary Wrong list again, Howard. That's twice today. Discussion of reels should be directed to one of the classic film lists. :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary >I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and >camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if >that means banning shameless vendor plugs. Shameless vendor plugs? Like a DB60? Shameless crossover, rollover cables...the mind reels. :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Title: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary Mind reels? Does that have anything to do with monkeys and the Internet? - Don -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:31 PM To: Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary Wrong list again, Howard. That's twice today. Discussion of reels should be directed to one of the classic film lists. :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary >I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and >camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if >that means banning shameless vendor plugs. Shameless vendor plugs? Like a DB60? Shameless crossover, rollover cables...the mind reels. :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
I don't think Priscilla's complaint was about the free book info itself, but about the marketing text included with it in the original post and, more importantly, that the post was from a person in the Cisco marketing dept. [correct me if I'm wrong Priscilla] BTW, most times, if not everytime, during the 9 months or so I've been on this list, when Priscilla's book is brought up, its not by Priscilla. ---JRE--- ""Hicks, Randy"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > True. It is interesting that I never hear complaints when Priscilla's book > is brought up for the millionth time. Huh? I wonder why? > > - Randy > > -Original Message- > From: David Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > > > While not a "learning" type of book a glossary of terms is sometimes a > useful reference. It really depends on how exhaustive the glosary is. While > I understand your point, every Cisco freebie has an attached Cisco "Buy > This" promo attached. Priscilla, your book had a promo attached last year. > I'm not comparing the knowledge "Top Down Network Design" contains to this > book at all but am making the argument that everything that could be used as > a reference in any capacity has some value. > > I could see arguing that the free clock offer of late is completely > marketing dept. driven but I really think complaints about a glossary of > terms is going overboard. That's my opinion though. > > David Armstrong > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
I'm not clear as to your intent. However I'll answer. Priscilla's book is truely useful. Is is perhaps the best written book of any pertaining to Cisco knowledge. At most I had to reread two sentences in the entire book where the intent of the author was not immediately clear. Since Howard is not plugging his new book I'll mention it here and then quickly duck. WAN Survival Guide: Strategies for VPNs and Multiservice Networks by Howard C. Berkowitz ISBN: 0471384283 I support those who support us. > -Original Message- > From: Hicks, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:40 PM > To: 'David Armstrong'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > > > True. It is interesting that I never hear complaints when > Priscilla's book > is brought up for the millionth time. Huh? I wonder why? > > - Randy > > -Original Message- > From: David Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary > > > While not a "learning" type of book a glossary of terms is sometimes a > useful reference. It really depends on how exhaustive the > glosary is. While > I understand your point, every Cisco freebie has an attached > Cisco "Buy > This" promo attached. Priscilla, your book had a promo > attached last year. > I'm not comparing the knowledge "Top Down Network Design" > contains to this > book at all but am making the argument that everything that > could be used as > a reference in any capacity has some value. > > I could see arguing that the free clock offer of late is completely > marketing dept. driven but I really think complaints about a > glossary of > terms is going overboard. That's my opinion though. > > David Armstrong > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
True. It is interesting that I never hear complaints when Priscilla's book is brought up for the millionth time. Huh? I wonder why? - Randy -Original Message- From: David Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary While not a "learning" type of book a glossary of terms is sometimes a useful reference. It really depends on how exhaustive the glosary is. While I understand your point, every Cisco freebie has an attached Cisco "Buy This" promo attached. Priscilla, your book had a promo attached last year. I'm not comparing the knowledge "Top Down Network Design" contains to this book at all but am making the argument that everything that could be used as a reference in any capacity has some value. I could see arguing that the free clock offer of late is completely marketing dept. driven but I really think complaints about a glossary of terms is going overboard. That's my opinion though. David Armstrong _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
David, I for one appreicate picking up a book or two for free. Thanks. - Randy -Original Message- From: David Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary Today, the area in your local area network is constantly being redefined. Employees and work groups are on the move. Is your network as mobile as your people are? Cisco Aironet® 340 series of wireless LAN and bridge products will add unparalleled mobility to your organization, quickly and cost-effectively. The flexibility provided by wireless LANs enables you to easily accomplish frequent LAN changes, even overcome limitations created by older buildings, leased space or temporary sites. To find out more about Cisco's wireless LAN solutions, visit http://www.cisco.com/offer/wireless_340/V609-100-92 and you will receive our FREE "Telecom & Networking Glossary" book. Sincerely, Bill Rossi Senior Director of Marketing Desktop Switching Business Unit Cisco Systems, Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Wrong list again, Howard. That's twice today. Discussion of reels should be directed to one of the classic film lists. :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary >I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and >camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if >that means banning shameless vendor plugs. Shameless vendor plugs? Like a DB60? Shameless crossover, rollover cables...the mind reels. :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
While not a "learning" type of book a glossary of terms is sometimes a useful reference. It really depends on how exhaustive the glosary is. While I understand your point, every Cisco freebie has an attached Cisco "Buy This" promo attached. Priscilla, your book had a promo attached last year. I'm not comparing the knowledge "Top Down Network Design" contains to this book at all but am making the argument that everything that could be used as a reference in any capacity has some value. I could see arguing that the free clock offer of late is completely marketing dept. driven but I really think complaints about a glossary of terms is going overboard. That's my opinion though. David Armstrong _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
>I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and >camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if >that means banning shameless vendor plugs. Shameless vendor plugs? Like a DB60? Shameless crossover, rollover cables...the mind reels. :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
I agree with Priscilla, this list is a voice of technical knowledge and camaraderie, it is important to maintain integrity on all fronts even if that means banning shameless vendor plugs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:30 AM To: David Armstrong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary Yikes. Do we really want sales pitches from Cisco on this list? I don't think so. We already knew about the free book. We are very good at keeping each other informed on free books from Cisco! &;-) We have also had some technical discussions on wireless, including Aironet. But stuff like the text below is clearly marketing-generated and not what we want on this list, with all due respect to the writer. Priscilla At 10:09 AM 11/17/00, David Armstrong wrote: >Today, the area in your local area network is constantly being redefined. >Employees and work groups are on the move. Is your network as mobile as your >people are? >Cisco Aironet® 340 series of wireless LAN and bridge products will add >unparalleled mobility to your organization, quickly and cost-effectively. >The flexibility provided by wireless LANs enables you to easily accomplish >frequent LAN changes, even overcome limitations created by older buildings, >leased space or temporary sites. To find out more about Cisco's wireless LAN >solutions, visit http://www.cisco.com/offer/wireless_340/V609-100-92 and you >will receive our FREE "Telecom & Networking Glossary" book. >Sincerely, > >Bill Rossi >Senior Director of Marketing >Desktop Switching Business Unit >Cisco Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Book: Telecom & Networking Glossary
Yikes. Do we really want sales pitches from Cisco on this list? I don't think so. We already knew about the free book. We are very good at keeping each other informed on free books from Cisco! &;-) We have also had some technical discussions on wireless, including Aironet. But stuff like the text below is clearly marketing-generated and not what we want on this list, with all due respect to the writer. Priscilla At 10:09 AM 11/17/00, David Armstrong wrote: >Today, the area in your local area network is constantly being redefined. >Employees and work groups are on the move. Is your network as mobile as your >people are? >Cisco Aironet® 340 series of wireless LAN and bridge products will add >unparalleled mobility to your organization, quickly and cost-effectively. >The flexibility provided by wireless LANs enables you to easily accomplish >frequent LAN changes, even overcome limitations created by older buildings, >leased space or temporary sites. To find out more about Cisco's wireless LAN >solutions, visit http://www.cisco.com/offer/wireless_340/V609-100-92 and you >will receive our FREE "Telecom & Networking Glossary" book. >Sincerely, > >Bill Rossi >Senior Director of Marketing >Desktop Switching Business Unit >Cisco Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
