RE: home lab equipment [7:75115]
I stopped buying long ago except isdn pbx, basics on routers at home, and started renting a few low budget ATM/VOICE etc. labs online. Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Dave Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 9 september 2003 22:31 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: home lab equipment [7:75115] Group, I'm planning on purchasing my final addition to my RS home lab sometime this month. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should add another 3550 (I have one already) or if I should pick up a Lightstream 1010 with two 4500s that have an OC3 MM interface. ATM for the 3600s is way too expensive for me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (Sorry if this message is a dub) -dave **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75226t=75115 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: home lab equipment [7:75115]
Which set of equipment (3550 vs ATM) can have the more devious requirements in the lab? If two 3550s then buy it. If the ATM then buy it. I'd lean towards the 3550 and rent time for the ATM. I have no LAB experience to back up my opinion. Be forewarned. -Original Message- From: Dave Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: home lab equipment [7:75115] Group, I'm planning on purchasing my final addition to my RS home lab sometime this month. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should add another 3550 (I have one already) or if I should pick up a Lightstream 1010 with two 4500s that have an OC3 MM interface. ATM for the 3600s is way too expensive for me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (Sorry if this message is a dub) -dave **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75123t=75115 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Yes, your correct... The ones I have at home are 4500 routers with 4700 cpu's... Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 4500 Software (C4500-BOOT-M), Version 11.1(22), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Mon 28-Sep-98 18:10 by richv Image text-base: 0x600088A0, data-base: 0x602B2000 System image file is bootflash:c4500-boot-m.111-22, booted via ROM cisco CPA4700 (R4K) processor (revision C) with 32768K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 03426366 R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0 (Level 2 Cache) G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0. X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant. Authorized for CiscoPro software set only. 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interfaces. 4 Serial network interfaces. 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) 4096K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write) Larry J.D. Chaiken wrote: Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58416t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
The 4000 will support the interfaces but it has to be a 4000M+. r2#sh ver Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 4000 Software (C4000-D-M), Version 12.1(16), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Tue 09-Jul-02 05:56 by kellythw Image text-base: 0x00012000, data-base: 0x0087F824 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(13a), RELEASE SOFTWARE ROM: 4000 Bootstrap Software (XX-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(13a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (f c1) r2 uptime is 1 minute System returned to ROM by power-on System image file is flash:c4000-d-mz.121-16.bin cisco 4000 (68030) processor (revision 0xB0) with 16384K/4096K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 5062416 G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0. Bridging software. X.25 software, Version 3.0.0. Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1. 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 4 Serial network interface(s) 4 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s) 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) Configuration register is 0x2102 -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Yes, your correct... The ones I have at home are 4500 routers with 4700 cpu's... Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 4500 Software (C4500-BOOT-M), Version 11.1(22), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Mon 28-Sep-98 18:10 by richv Image text-base: 0x600088A0, data-base: 0x602B2000 System image file is bootflash:c4500-boot-m.111-22, booted via ROM cisco CPA4700 (R4K) processor (revision C) with 32768K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 03426366 R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0 (Level 2 Cache) G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0. X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant. Authorized for CiscoPro software set only. 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interfaces. 4 Serial network interfaces. 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) 4096K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write) Larry J.D. Chaiken wrote: Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58445t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Are you sure about this I can't find anything on CCO where these modules are not supported on the 4000 I also know someone right now who has 2 of the NP 4T modules in a 4000M and using it as a frame switch for his lab. -Original Message- From: J.D. Chaiken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58437t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58409t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Elijah, you got the switch from me... How is it working??? I was wondering if you were going to use it for Cisco cert needs.. Have you seen my online lab rental yet? I can send you some information. I have an AGS + if you are interested. It has 14 serial interfaces, 4 Token-Ring and 2 Ethernet interfaces. I have the latest on in it 11.3a or something like that I have not used it since the summer... Have fun /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58217t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Yes I did get the switch from you (smile) I have not fired it up yet because I wanted to wait for it to cool to room tempature because I must have gotten it from the only guy that does not have heat in his truck because it was freezing. I will be firing it up this afternoon sometime. He email me offline about the ags+ -Original Message- From: jeff sicuranza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Elijah, you got the switch from me... How is it working??? I was wondering if you were going to use it for Cisco cert needs.. Have you seen my online lab rental yet? I can send you some information. I have an AGS + if you are interested. It has 14 serial interfaces, 4 Token-Ring and 2 Ethernet interfaces. I have the latest on in it 11.3a or something like that I have not used it since the summer... Have fun /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58219t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58215t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Elijah, I use a 2521 as a frame switch in my home lab and that is enough for me. Keep in mind that it only has four serial interfaces, so if you want to do more frame connections, you will need the 2522 or 2523 which have ten serial interfaces. You have more routers in your lab than I do. I only have six routers (not including the 2521). So, the 2521 works well for the number of routers I have. Keith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58222t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58221t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home lab [7:52958]
Hey, All you need is a 2511 with 2 octal cables and you are on your way... gnaoui wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... i'm planning to build my home lab, does any one know how can i have a comm-server : from which i will be able to access to all lab devices? thx in advance Mounir CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52960t=52958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home Lab [7:51302]
Roly, Here's the lab kit Im recommending/selling to tackle the new CCIE RS Lab Exam: Three Cisco 2501 routers Two Cisco 2503 routers (ISDN) One Cisco 2511 router (Access Server) One Cisco 2522 router (FR switch) One 2620 router (voice/isl trunking) One 2610 router (voice) Catalyst 3550 ISDN Simulator misc cables, xcvrs, etc thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Roly A wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I am new to studygroup. I recently the CCIE written, and I am looking for some suggestions as to what equipment would be optimal to set up a home lab (keeping in mind a restricted budget). Thanks to all, RA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51400t=51302 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home LAB [7:41897]
Yes, I think it's a good idea to purchase your own equipment. It's there whenever you need it, you can do whatever you want with it, and you're more apt to practice on it if it's right down the hall! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: CODETEL [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home LAB [7:41897] Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41929t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home LAB [7:41897]
At 3:40 AM -0400 4/19/02, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: Yes, I think it's a good idea to purchase your own equipment. It's there whenever you need it, you can do whatever you want with it, and you're more apt to practice on it if it's right down the hall! Shawn K. :-) I can argue this from both perspectives. On the one hand, I am involved in a virtual rack business (suitable disclaimers apply). The advantages there are not having to purchase expensive and specialized equipment, predefined scenarios and other educational material, and technical support. It's also easier on cash flow. Again with all due caveats, I really think a remote rack is a better learning technique--even if that remote rack is in your house and accessed via a terminal server. When you get into the real operations world, all your routers are NOT going to be in the same room, and you might as well get experience doing things through a console. The new CCIE lab also is structured this way. As an instructor, I found the newer students did seem to derive a certain comfort level from actually being able to see the equipment, but quite honestly, I found this to be a mental crutch. Until you really master remote console access, telnetting between routers, etc., you aren't going to get the speed for the CCIE lab. If you're at the CCNA level and can afford it, the tradeoffs are somewhat different. Having 2 or 3 (preferably) cheap routers (e.g., 2501) and perhaps a switch could be a cheap way to get comfortable with the CLI. It's a whole different world when you need ISDN, ATM, voice, etc., simulators. But Shawn, you also remind me (I'm a telecommuter) that I have a fairly good gym in my house. I'm not nearly as likely to get into my car and drive to the local gym than I am to jump on the exercise bike or do some bench presses when Cisco has rotted my brain. Of course, to the best of my knowledge, nobody has gotten cyberbodybuilding to work (I'm not talking about morphed images). -Original Message- From: CODETEL [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Home LAB [7:41897] Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41935t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home LAB [7:41897]
My two differing views, each bounded by its own lifespan... 1. Buy your own equipment. Well, not only are there failed dot-coms but also failed efforts and hopes from individuals thinking it would be an easy path to CCIE-dom. Both provide constant overflow of routers/switches on eBay that the prices have dropped by more than 50% (mostly) in the past 10 months. Plus if you're not yet in IT, getting exposed to REAL Cisco gear for the FIRST time AFTER you've passed the lab...UHMM... 2. Rent remote rack. This i think will become the ONLY solution for most individuals when the CCIE lab gets revamped. As you can see from the changes of content already confirmed by the new areas individuals get tested on starting from the CCNP series, it's only a matter of time before a Cat5 and 8 2500/4500's just won't give you the ability to perform half of what will be covered in the lab. Example: MLS, MPLS, Voice, PNNI...the list goes on with new technologies that are very likely to replace Token Ring. AND, with the remote practice labs, you have the brains of the people behind it (like Howard) to provide you scenarios that either show you how far you've progressed or how far behind you are in your studies. My 2 cents. Elmer Deloso - Original Message - From: Howard C. Berkowitz To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:50 AM Subject: RE: Home LAB [7:41897] At 3:40 AM -0400 4/19/02, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: Yes, I think it's a good idea to purchase your own equipment. It's there whenever you need it, you can do whatever you want with it, and you're more apt to practice on it if it's right down the hall! Shawn K. :-) I can argue this from both perspectives. On the one hand, I am involved in a virtual rack business (suitable disclaimers apply). The advantages there are not having to purchase expensive and specialized equipment, predefined scenarios and other educational material, and technical support. It's also easier on cash flow. Again with all due caveats, I really think a remote rack is a better learning technique--even if that remote rack is in your house and accessed via a terminal server. When you get into the real operations world, all your routers are NOT going to be in the same room, and you might as well get experience doing things through a console. The new CCIE lab also is structured this way. As an instructor, I found the newer students did seem to derive a certain comfort level from actually being able to see the equipment, but quite honestly, I found this to be a mental crutch. Until you really master remote console access, telnetting between routers, etc., you aren't going to get the speed for the CCIE lab. If you're at the CCNA level and can afford it, the tradeoffs are somewhat different. Having 2 or 3 (preferably) cheap routers (e.g., 2501) and perhaps a switch could be a cheap way to get comfortable with the CLI. It's a whole different world when you need ISDN, ATM, voice, etc., simulators. But Shawn, you also remind me (I'm a telecommuter) that I have a fairly good gym in my house. I'm not nearly as likely to get into my car and drive to the local gym than I am to jump on the exercise bike or do some bench presses when Cisco has rotted my brain. Of course, to the best of my knowledge, nobody has gotten cyberbodybuilding to work (I'm not talking about morphed images). -Original Message- From: CODETEL [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home LAB [7:41897] Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41939t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home LAB [7:41897]
I think it's a good point by Howard about physical equipment being a mental crutch. I have a fair amount of stuff and am realizing that for CCIE I'll need to become one with the vty. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41962t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home LAB [7:41897]
It's definitely a good idea to setup a home lab. The more practice you can get, the better! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net CODETEL wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41907t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab [7:40371]
pc.htm#xtocid5 v wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am setting up a home lab with cisco 2500 and 2600 with internal t1 csu/dsu I understand I need an external csu/dsu I purchased a cray dcp 3552 t-1 esf csu/dsu. Is there any way to tell if this will pass traffic with an internal card and where do I get a t1 crossover ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40395t=40371 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home LAB for CCIE ??? [7:37618]
The Catalyst 2924XL uses IOS . Catalyst 5000 series switches uses CatOS (the set based OS). You need at least a switch that is running CatOS in your home lab. Adrian mindiani mindiani wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am building my home CCIE lab. I got already 8 X 2500 series router , a 4000 router and a 2924XL catalyst switch. I am wondering whether this catalyst has everything I need to cover CAT 5000 OS.Should I need a 2926T or a CAT 5000 ?. Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37789t=37618 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
Hello, I have a 2514 and a 2523 that I am selling for $1300.00 + SH. The 2514 has 2 serials and 2 ethernets and the 2523 comes with 8 serials along with a TR and ISDN port. Along with the router, you get 2 Cisco console cables, 2 AUI transceivers and 2 Cisco original V.35 DTE/DCE cables along with CAT5 cables. Let me know if you are interested. Sincerely, From: Carroll Kong Reply-To: Carroll Kong To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:23:06 -0500 Seems to be a lot on Ebay. (2514 that is). (2523) is a bit more rare. At 09:49 AM 12/9/01 -0500, John Green wrote: ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -Carroll Kong _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
Hello, I have a 2514 and a 2523 that I am selling for $1300.00 + SH. The 2514 has 2 serials and 2 ethernets and the 2523 comes with 8 serials along with a TR and ISDN port. Along with the router, you get 2 Cisco console cables, 2 AUI transceivers and 2 Cisco original V.35 DTE/DCE cables along with CAT5 cables. Let me know if you are interested. Sincerely, From: Carroll Kong Reply-To: Carroll Kong To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:23:06 -0500 Seems to be a lot on Ebay. (2514 that is). (2523) is a bit more rare. At 09:49 AM 12/9/01 -0500, John Green wrote: ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -Carroll Kong _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
Seems to be a lot on Ebay. (2514 that is). (2523) is a bit more rare. At 09:49 AM 12/9/01 -0500, John Green wrote: ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28586t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28583t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28584t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
I can't explain the 2523, but try the 2520, 2521, 2522. The 2514 is very expensive due to it's abililty to fuction as a dual Ethernet firewall via FW/IOS. As far as bang for the buck, a cheap 4000 or 4000M with an NP-4T has more appeal in a home lab scenario (possibly cheaper too). I used a 4500M for my Frame Switch and it has 1 Fast Ethernet OC3-MM (making the best use of the space :o) All the best !!! Phil PS- if you want cheap- get an MGS or AGS. Make sure you have @ least 4 Serials and 4 Ethernets would be helpful too. - Original Message - From: John Green To: Circusnuts ; Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:51 AM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28585t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
There's atleast 15 advertised on E-bay with auction dates closing within the next weekI'll agree 2523's appear to be in short supply...but there's atleast 2 listed Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Green Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28587t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
yeah, but those appliqueswhat a major pain in the *ss - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: EA Louie ; Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28596t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
Agree with Phil on that, especially with the 4000M - it will still run 12.1 code if you max out the memory, but they're not the cheapest. I have one that's configured with an NP-4T, NP-1E, and NP-1R - it's my 2513 look-alike with 2 extra serials. My strategy for a home lab is to make as many parts multifunctional and multi-interface as possible - less parts, more function. I can't remember who made that suggestion to me last summer, but it has paid off in spades. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] I can't explain the 2523, but try the 2520, 2521, 2522. The 2514 is very expensive due to it's abililty to fuction as a dual Ethernet firewall via FW/IOS. As far as bang for the buck, a cheap 4000 or 4000M with an NP-4T has more appeal in a home lab scenario (possibly cheaper too). I used a 4500M for my Frame Switch and it has 1 Fast Ethernet OC3-MM (making the best use of the space :o) All the best !!! Phil PS- if you want cheap- get an MGS or AGS. Make sure you have @ least 4 Serials and 4 Ethernets would be helpful too. - Original Message - From: John Green To: Circusnuts ; Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:51 AM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28598t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28539t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
yes, of course, 2522 and 2523 both are good buy but expensiveHam web wrote: hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27789t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: home lab equipment [7:26555]
maybe a few more serial Something with say 4 serial and ac ouple more dual serial maybe an 25xx ISDN that can run enterprise IOS oz Can anyone comment on this list of equipment? I'm fortunate enough to have this equipment as a home lab. I'm going to use it for CCIE Security lab study. 1 AGS+ running 11.0(16) -14 ethernet interfaces -2 serial interfaces 1 Cat 5000 - Sup III - C5RSM - 24Port ethernet 1 Pix 520 - 3 fast ethernet - 5.1(2) PixOS 2 Cisco 804 ISDN routers 1 Cisco 2501 - 1 ethernet - 2 serial 1 Cisco 4500M - 1 fast ethernet - 2 ethernet - 1 token ring 1 Cisco Cat 2924 1 Cisco Cat 2924 XL 1 Cisco Cat 1900 - enterprise software 1 Cisco Cat 2600 - 16 token ring interfaces 1 cisco 1548M micro switch Many PCs, 2 with token ring cards - 1 linux machine (RH 7.1) - 1 W2K machine - 1 Win98 machine - 1 openBSD machine Plans : ISDN simulator Console Access Server Maybe a couple more routers? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26580t=26555 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home lab equipment [7:26555]
I'd definitely add an ISDN simulator. dump the SUP3 and RSM module to pay for the rest of your lab. put enterprise/FW/IDS software on your 2600. setup a tacacs+ server and maybe an IDS director. add a windows 2000 server for CA enrollment (you can do tacacs+ and CA on the same box). I'd also get a 2520 or 2522 to act as a frame-relay switch. other than that, you're good to go! good luck with your studying. let me know if you have any questions. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Patrick W. Bass wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone comment on this list of equipment? I'm fortunate enough to have this equipment as a home lab. I'm going to use it for CCIE Security lab study. 1 AGS+ running 11.0(16) -14 ethernet interfaces -2 serial interfaces 1 Cat 5000 - Sup III - C5RSM - 24Port ethernet 1 Pix 520 - 3 fast ethernet - 5.1(2) PixOS 2 Cisco 804 ISDN routers 1 Cisco 2501 - 1 ethernet - 2 serial 1 Cisco 4500M - 1 fast ethernet - 2 ethernet - 1 token ring 1 Cisco Cat 2924 1 Cisco Cat 2924 XL 1 Cisco Cat 1900 - enterprise software 1 Cisco Cat 2600 - 16 token ring interfaces 1 cisco 1548M micro switch Many PCs, 2 with token ring cards - 1 linux machine (RH 7.1) - 1 W2K machine - 1 Win98 machine - 1 openBSD machine Plans : ISDN simulator Console Access Server Maybe a couple more routers? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26591t=26555 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab Information [7:24140]
www.packetattack.com The sample labs are free.. I have links for books, testing, downloads etc. Drop a line with any comments you might have, suggestions and yes, dislikes :) When I started with Cisco routers and the certs, my book I constantly reached for was Cisco Routers for IP Routing by Rudenko and a second was Practical Cisco Routers by Que. This was a bit over 2 years ago and many more books are out nowdays. I almost forgot.. one I still use as a ready reference is Cisco Router troubleshooting Handbook by Rybaczyk which has alot of examples with decent descriptions for each example. No book is perfect but you pick what works for yourself. MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24233t=24140 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab question [7:2491]
We are studying to attain certs but the primary focus should be to become networkers. An external CSU/DSU is closer to the real world than a back-to-back cable. Consider acquiring another external CSU/DSU. Run those boxes back to back between two routers. Alternately if you have a modular router buy a WIC with the CSU/DSU built-in. Connect that to your Paradyne which connects to the serial port of a second router. -Original Message- From: Scott McFarland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab question [7:2491] First of all, thanks for all the good info over the last few months. I plan to build a home lab for my CCNP studies and hope to continue with CCIE in the next year. I aquired a Paradyne Acculink 3160-A2-210 external CSU/DSU from a friend. Is there anything I can use this for in my home lab or just go ahead and sell it on Ebay? Thanks, Scott _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2582t=2491 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup
Something with three or more serial interfaces to act as a Frame Switch. A switch with CatOS. 2901, 5000, 5505 etc. The newer parts are expensive. A terminal server 2509, 2511. -Original Message- From: Jeff Walzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:33 PM To: 'Cisco' Subject: Home lab setup Right now I have the following equipment in ym home lab: One 2620 One 2611 (T1 WIC and ISDN) One 2610 (T1 WIC and ISDN) Two 2501s One 3548 and 2924 switches Should I look to add on any other equipment? I would like to add a 2502 for token ring but I'm open to suggestions and recommendations. Thanks, Jeff _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jason , --- Jason Roysdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad info about back to back 2500s. Don't think so . Wat you list below is exactly what I said in the email 2501 is dce because you plugged a dce cable in the back 2502 is dte because you plugged a dte cable in the back this IS refected by sh controller serial ## I'm using them in my home lab: --- J Roysdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad info about back to back 2500s. I'm using them in my home lab: 2501 dce: interface Serial0 no shutdown ip address 172.16.0.1 255.255.255.252 clockrate 400 2502 dte: interface Serial0 no shutdown ip address 172.16.0.2 255.255.255.252 With that and the dte/dce back to back cable, it just came up. 2501#sh contr serial HD unit 0, idb = 0x93830, driver structure at 0x97BC8 buffer size 1524 HD unit 0, V.35 DCE cable, clockrate 400 *snip* 2502#sh contr serial HD unit 0, idb = 0xB9694, driver structure at 0xBE418 buffer size 1524 HD unit 0, V.35 DTE cable *snip* Doesn't reflect what's plugged in regarding DTE vs. DCE. The 2501 end is DCE, the 2502 is DTE. However, if you notice the difference between the lines: 2501 DCE device has clockrate specified. Also, no matter what clockrate I specify on the DTE side, it will not take the command (no error, just never sets it, as clockrate is set by the DCE). HTH -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ "Flem" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Charles , Inline .. --- Charles Paver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am having some difficulty in setting up my lab at home, and need some good advice. I have two pc's, 2 routers, and one switch. I just want to work on the routers for now, though. Just established a network with them, and can telnet into the router. I have a 2514 router with 2 serial and 2 ethernet ports, and also a 2504 with 1 token ring and 2 serial. I also have one cross over cable (dce to dte), one rollover cable as well. My questions are: 1. on the 2514, I can't enable ospf. You know how you type in router ospf (as#)? well, when i do that, i do not get a router-config prompt. But with eigrp or rip I do. I wanted to practice ospf, but cant without getting into that mode! What do you get when you type in router ospf ### ? Message of some sort :-) 2. how do i connect the two routers? I know i use the serial calbe, but which router gets the dte or dce? i reda that all routers are dte, and therefore need to have the clock rate set if not using the dce! So, on this router 2514 when i teyped in show int s0, it says down, down. Now, I went into interface mode, and did a no shutdown. And then I assigned it an ip address. But, i cant do anything til i get that interface up. Router is by default nothing :-) Router will detect what cable is plugged in . You can see that with sh controllers ... Put dce cable in one and dte in the other . Set clock on the dce router , configure a similar protocol , ppp or hdlc and things should come up/up. 3. once they are connected (if i cant use ospf, ill settle for eigrp :), then what? This ccnp stuff is really hard without the materials (such as frame lines coming into the house, or csu/dsu's!!) Don't now about ccnp . Then ... coffee I suppose . 4. I just bought an external modem, so I can dial in to the router. Anyone know how to set this up to simulate a t1 coming in? Such as, from my 56k phone line to the external modem to the serial port? Or is my logic flawed? No way to simulate T1 with a dialup connection . Think you can put a t1 back-to-back but not with c2500 . I saw a guy do it once with two c4500 . flem Any advice is very, very appreciated! You guys are awesome! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to
Re: home lab
Charles , Inline .. --- Charles Paver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am having some difficulty in setting up my lab at home, and need some good advice. I have two pc's, 2 routers, and one switch. I just want to work on the routers for now, though. Just established a network with them, and can telnet into the router. I have a 2514 router with 2 serial and 2 ethernet ports, and also a 2504 with 1 token ring and 2 serial. I also have one cross over cable (dce to dte), one rollover cable as well. My questions are: 1. on the 2514, I can't enable ospf. You know how you type in router ospf (as#)? well, when i do that, i do not get a router-config prompt. But with eigrp or rip I do. I wanted to practice ospf, but cant without getting into that mode! What do you get when you type in router ospf ### ? Message of some sort :-) 2. how do i connect the two routers? I know i use the serial calbe, but which router gets the dte or dce? i reda that all routers are dte, and therefore need to have the clock rate set if not using the dce! So, on this router 2514 when i teyped in show int s0, it says down, down. Now, I went into interface mode, and did a no shutdown. And then I assigned it an ip address. But, i cant do anything til i get that interface up. Router is by default nothing :-) Router will detect what cable is plugged in . You can see that with sh controllers ... Put dce cable in one and dte in the other . Set clock on the dce router , configure a similar protocol , ppp or hdlc and things should come up/up. 3. once they are connected (if i cant use ospf, ill settle for eigrp :), then what? This ccnp stuff is really hard without the materials (such as frame lines coming into the house, or csu/dsu's!!) Don't now about ccnp . Then ... coffee I suppose . 4. I just bought an external modem, so I can dial in to the router. Anyone know how to set this up to simulate a t1 coming in? Such as, from my 56k phone line to the external modem to the serial port? Or is my logic flawed? No way to simulate T1 with a dialup connection . Think you can put a t1 back-to-back but not with c2500 . I saw a guy do it once with two c4500 . flem Any advice is very, very appreciated! You guys are awesome! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home lab
Bad info about back to back 2500s. I'm using them in my home lab: 2501 dce: interface Serial0 no shutdown ip address 172.16.0.1 255.255.255.252 clockrate 400 2502 dte: interface Serial0 no shutdown ip address 172.16.0.2 255.255.255.252 With that and the dte/dce back to back cable, it just came up. 2501#sh contr serial HD unit 0, idb = 0x93830, driver structure at 0x97BC8 buffer size 1524 HD unit 0, V.35 DCE cable, clockrate 400 *snip* 2502#sh contr serial HD unit 0, idb = 0xB9694, driver structure at 0xBE418 buffer size 1524 HD unit 0, V.35 DTE cable *snip* Doesn't reflect what's plugged in regarding DTE vs. DCE. The 2501 end is DCE, the 2502 is DTE. However, if you notice the difference between the lines: 2501 DCE device has clockrate specified. Also, no matter what clockrate I specify on the DTE side, it will not take the command (no error, just never sets it, as clockrate is set by the DCE). HTH -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ "Flem" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Charles , Inline .. --- Charles Paver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am having some difficulty in setting up my lab at home, and need some good advice. I have two pc's, 2 routers, and one switch. I just want to work on the routers for now, though. Just established a network with them, and can telnet into the router. I have a 2514 router with 2 serial and 2 ethernet ports, and also a 2504 with 1 token ring and 2 serial. I also have one cross over cable (dce to dte), one rollover cable as well. My questions are: 1. on the 2514, I can't enable ospf. You know how you type in router ospf (as#)? well, when i do that, i do not get a router-config prompt. But with eigrp or rip I do. I wanted to practice ospf, but cant without getting into that mode! What do you get when you type in router ospf ### ? Message of some sort :-) 2. how do i connect the two routers? I know i use the serial calbe, but which router gets the dte or dce? i reda that all routers are dte, and therefore need to have the clock rate set if not using the dce! So, on this router 2514 when i teyped in show int s0, it says down, down. Now, I went into interface mode, and did a no shutdown. And then I assigned it an ip address. But, i cant do anything til i get that interface up. Router is by default nothing :-) Router will detect what cable is plugged in . You can see that with sh controllers ... Put dce cable in one and dte in the other . Set clock on the dce router , configure a similar protocol , ppp or hdlc and things should come up/up. 3. once they are connected (if i cant use ospf, ill settle for eigrp :), then what? This ccnp stuff is really hard without the materials (such as frame lines coming into the house, or csu/dsu's!!) Don't now about ccnp . Then ... coffee I suppose . 4. I just bought an external modem, so I can dial in to the router. Anyone know how to set this up to simulate a t1 coming in? Such as, from my 56k phone line to the external modem to the serial port? Or is my logic flawed? No way to simulate T1 with a dialup connection . Think you can put a t1 back-to-back but not with c2500 . I saw a guy do it once with two c4500 . flem Any advice is very, very appreciated! You guys are awesome! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: home lab
Depends on the IOS version In earlier ( 11.3 and earlier, if memory serves ) you can have what I call the "phantom clockrate" Swap the cable ends, and watch the clockrate appear on that interface where the command "would not take". Swap again, and watch the command disappear again. This was corrected in 12.x Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J Roysdon Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: home lab Bad info about back to back 2500s. I'm using them in my home lab: 2501 dce: interface Serial0 no shutdown ip address 172.16.0.1 255.255.255.252 clockrate 400 2502 dte: interface Serial0 no shutdown ip address 172.16.0.2 255.255.255.252 With that and the dte/dce back to back cable, it just came up. 2501#sh contr serial HD unit 0, idb = 0x93830, driver structure at 0x97BC8 buffer size 1524 HD unit 0, V.35 DCE cable, clockrate 400 *snip* 2502#sh contr serial HD unit 0, idb = 0xB9694, driver structure at 0xBE418 buffer size 1524 HD unit 0, V.35 DTE cable *snip* Doesn't reflect what's plugged in regarding DTE vs. DCE. The 2501 end is DCE, the 2502 is DTE. However, if you notice the difference between the lines: 2501 DCE device has clockrate specified. Also, no matter what clockrate I specify on the DTE side, it will not take the command (no error, just never sets it, as clockrate is set by the DCE). HTH -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ "Flem" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Charles , Inline .. --- Charles Paver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am having some difficulty in setting up my lab at home, and need some good advice. I have two pc's, 2 routers, and one switch. I just want to work on the routers for now, though. Just established a network with them, and can telnet into the router. I have a 2514 router with 2 serial and 2 ethernet ports, and also a 2504 with 1 token ring and 2 serial. I also have one cross over cable (dce to dte), one rollover cable as well. My questions are: 1. on the 2514, I can't enable ospf. You know how you type in router ospf (as#)? well, when i do that, i do not get a router-config prompt. But with eigrp or rip I do. I wanted to practice ospf, but cant without getting into that mode! What do you get when you type in router ospf ### ? Message of some sort :-) 2. how do i connect the two routers? I know i use the serial calbe, but which router gets the dte or dce? i reda that all routers are dte, and therefore need to have the clock rate set if not using the dce! So, on this router 2514 when i teyped in show int s0, it says down, down. Now, I went into interface mode, and did a no shutdown. And then I assigned it an ip address. But, i cant do anything til i get that interface up. Router is by default nothing :-) Router will detect what cable is plugged in . You can see that with sh controllers ... Put dce cable in one and dte in the other . Set clock on the dce router , configure a similar protocol , ppp or hdlc and things should come up/up. 3. once they are connected (if i cant use ospf, ill settle for eigrp :), then what? This ccnp stuff is really hard without the materials (such as frame lines coming into the house, or csu/dsu's!!) Don't now about ccnp . Then ... coffee I suppose . 4. I just bought an external modem, so I can dial in to the router. Anyone know how to set this up to simulate a t1 coming in? Such as, from my 56k phone line to the external modem to the serial port? Or is my logic flawed? No way to simulate T1 with a dialup connection . Think you can put a t1 back-to-back but not with c2500 . I saw a guy do it once with two c4500 . flem Any advice is very, very appreciated! You guys are awesome! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab
Title: RE: Home lab Bob, talk to Brad Ellis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about this. I just purchased several items from him. His customer service was excellent (ordered yesterday, delivered today!), he included everything you need, and the prices are competitive. Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Bob Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab Does anybody know of any good place to purchase a home lab to study for the ccnp series of tests? Any information would be much appreciated. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for all the great suggestions eveyone!!! I'm sure they'll be helpful. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ebay.com ""Bob Edmonds"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8rdbs4$261$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rdbs4$261$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anybody know of any good place to purchase a home lab to study for the ccnp series of tests? Any information would be much appreciated. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab
Try http://www.ebay.com or http://www.amazon.com. There are many auction sites where you can find equipment such as Cisco Routers and Switches plus most reference/study books. Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Bob Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab Does anybody know of any good place to purchase a home lab to study for the ccnp series of tests? Any information would be much appreciated. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bob: In addition to the eBay's of the world, I have had good luck with [EMAIL PROTECTED]; just let 'em know what you need - another good source/resource never hurts! htp, jess, ccnp/ccdp/cvoice Bob Edmonds wrote: Does anybody know of any good place to purchase a home lab to study for the ccnp series of tests? Any information would be much appreciated. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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check out the following http://www.tcisave.com/ http://www.grandstore.com/ http://www.recurrent.com/ for cisco memory http://www.memoryx.com/index.html -Original Message- From: Bob Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab Does anybody know of any good place to purchase a home lab to study for the ccnp series of tests? Any information would be much appreciated. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bob, Hi! I'd recommend trying www.optsys.net. The owner (me) actually has is a CCIE and will be able to recommend the correct devices you need for your lab. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Bob Edmonds"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8rdbs4$261$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rdbs4$261$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anybody know of any good place to purchase a home lab to study for the ccnp series of tests? Any information would be much appreciated. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOME LAB
A good source would be www.stonewallcable.com -Original Message- From: Vonnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HOME LAB Hi All, Where can I find cables and connector to connected 2 IGS cisco routers for a home lab? I've never set up a home lab before so any help would be appreciated. Vonnell ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab practice - one arm routing
Unfortunately, yes. You can't do ISL or or 802.1q on anything but an FE (You also can't do it on 10/100's, at least on the 1700). I just checked, there aren't any encapsulation commands on an ethernet subinterface. Craig Johnson, CCNP, CCDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Lee Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab practice - one arm routing Hi, Group, Is it absolutely necessary to use a router with Fast Ethernet port for one arm routing (routing VLANS) lab practice ? Regards, Alex Lee ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab practice - one arm routing
You need at least a 2620 to do it. It is not supported on the 1700's. HTH -- John Hardman, MCSE+I, CCNA ArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin ""JOHNSON, CRAIG (SBIS)"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Unfortunately, yes. You can't do ISL or or 802.1q on anything but an FE (You also can't do it on 10/100's, at least on the 1700). I just checked, there aren't any encapsulation commands on an ethernet subinterface. Craig Johnson, CCNP, CCDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Lee Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab practice - one arm routing Hi, Group, Is it absolutely necessary to use a router with Fast Ethernet port for one arm routing (routing VLANS) lab practice ? Regards, Alex Lee ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home Lab Recommendations
CCNP, probably 3-4 routers and a switch. Ive got them in stock: www.optsys.net -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 ""Jordan Rivard"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 005201bfe697$3895e120$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:005201bfe697$3895e120$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I was wondering what you would recommend for routers/switches for a self study home lab to persue a CCNP? Thanks, Jordan Rivard, CCNA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home Lab: ISDN Question
Isn't there a way to simulate having an ISDN connection without having ISDN lines? Brent A+, CCNA, MCP+I, MCSE ""Mark Holloway"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00b701bfcab8$d4aa7f80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00b701bfcab8$d4aa7f80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Question - ISDN: I have an ISDN number at work I can dial into, so if I get an ISDN circuit in my house, I should be able to practice DDR by having the circuit at my house dial the circuit at work (instead of having Sprint install two ISDN circuits in my house)? Regards, Mark ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
