Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-02-03 Thread c1sc0k1d

Thats a good one Brad.  You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell you
your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your supposed to
be a reputable CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers saying
hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all the
while they are the ones selling the material.  Just because you hid your
lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change what
you've done.  Let's look at your post...

BEllis Quote:
If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab.
I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the simline2
you can visit www.cheapisdn.com
BEllis Unquote:

Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is.  You refer to how
satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours who
bought one and liked it and told you about it.  You make no disclaimer that
you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your
pocket with cash when the purchase is made.  You make no mention that Cheap
ISDN (remember,  you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning.
Now how this is not deceptive to you?  Have you ever heard of full
disclosure?  Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just
heard about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the sale
is not being deceptive?  How about let's disclose in your future unbiased
recommendations that you'll directly profit from the said recommendation?
That would be the honest, upright thing to do!

It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your
competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you recommend!
Hah!!!





Brad Ellis  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Duncan,

 Hi!  Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation.  Rik
has
 just been one of many happy customers of ours.

 While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts,
 post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any
 under-handed tactics.  When there are questions about our products or
 services, we answer them.  I call that customer service, not shameless
 plugs.

 It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and
that
 you are badmouthing us.  Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post
but
 we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says.

 This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond,
please
 email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses
 to this post/email.  Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789.

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Duncan Stuart  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man.  Why don't
you
  reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group.
 
  By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you
 would
  think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed
some
  extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I
 can
  tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly
they
  are ripping you off.
 
  Cheers and best wishes
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Rik Guyler
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
 
 
  Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business. :-}
 
  Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have learned
 over
  the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is as
  inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it
didn't
 do
  the job just fine.
 
  I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied customer
  standing up for my preferred vendor!
 
  Rik
 
  -Original Message-
  From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
 
 
  Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
  recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his
recommendation
 is
  not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as
he
  already made a shameless plug.
 
  ISDN emulator on the NET
  http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
  www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
  www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
  http://www.tele-products.com/
  http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
  http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
  http://www.acacia

RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-02-03 Thread Duncan Stuart

Hi Brad

I'm responding publicly because that's what you do all the time.  I can't
believe how two faced someone can be.  They say everything will come out in
the wash and I hope it does.  I had good response from the previous email
because people are beginning to doubt.  I don't want to be funny but the
term used car salesman comes to mind.
Please note that I am not a competitor of Network Learning, Optsys or
CCbootcamp.  I know Brad that your business interests are hidden in Group
studies like this one and that image is very important, well let me remind
you that storm is approaching.

I'm not aware of other competitors using fake email accounts because there
are none and I have only witnessed under-handed tactics coming from one well
known source on this list.  By the way what does  publically mean.


If you can't do the time then don't do the crime.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brad Ellis
Sent: 01 February 2002 18:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


Duncan,

Hi!  Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation.  Rik has
just been one of many happy customers of ours.

While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts,
post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any
under-handed tactics.  When there are questions about our products or
services, we answer them.  I call that customer service, not shameless
plugs.

It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that
you are badmouthing us.  Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but
we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says.

This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please
email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses
to this post/email.  Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Duncan Stuart  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man.  Why don't you
 reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group.

 By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you
would
 think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some
 extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I
can
 tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they
 are ripping you off.

 Cheers and best wishes



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Rik Guyler
 Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


 Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business. :-}

 Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have learned
over
 the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is as
 inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't
do
 the job just fine.

 I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied customer
 standing up for my preferred vendor!

 Rik

 -Original Message-
 From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


 Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
 recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation
is
 not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as he
 already made a shameless plug.

 ISDN emulator on the NET
 http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
 www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
 www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
 http://www.tele-products.com/
 http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
 http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
 http://www.acacia-net.com/
 http://www.taskit.com/
 http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html
 http://www.digitechinc.com
 http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1QtyNA=



 Brad Ellis  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Ronald,
 
  If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
  simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s,
etc.
  Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home
 lab.
  I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
  www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the
simline2
  you can visit www.cheapisdn.com
 
  thanks,
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
  Network Learning Inc
 
  Ronald James  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab
 in
   terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating
 nda,
   but very inte

Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-02-03 Thread c1sc0k1d

Thats a good one Brad.  You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell you
your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your supposed to
be a reputable CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers saying
hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all the
while they are the ones selling the material.  Just because you hid your
lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change what
you've done.  Let's look at your post...

BEllis Quote:
If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab.
I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the simline2
you can visit www.cheapisdn.com
BEllis Unquote:

Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is.  You refer to how
satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours who
bought one and liked it and told you about it.  You make no disclaimer that
you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your
pocket with cash when the purchase is made.  You make no mention that Cheap
ISDN (remember,  you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning.
Now how this is not deceptive to you?  Have you ever heard of full
disclosure?  Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just
heard about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the sale
is not being deceptive?  How about let's disclose in your future unbiased
recommendations that you'll directly profit from the said recommendation?
That would be the honest, upright thing to do!

It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your
competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you recommend!
Hah!!!




Brad Ellis  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Duncan,

 Hi!  Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation.  Rik
has
 just been one of many happy customers of ours.

 While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts,
 post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any
 under-handed tactics.  When there are questions about our products or
 services, we answer them.  I call that customer service, not shameless
 plugs.

 It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and
that
 you are badmouthing us.  Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post
but
 we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says.

 This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond,
please
 email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses
 to this post/email.  Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789.

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Duncan Stuart  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man.  Why don't
you
  reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group.
 
  By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you
 would
  think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed
some
  extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I
 can
  tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly
they
  are ripping you off.
 
  Cheers and best wishes
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Rik Guyler
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
 
 
  Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business. :-}
 
  Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have learned
 over
  the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is as
  inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it
didn't
 do
  the job just fine.
 
  I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied customer
  standing up for my preferred vendor!
 
  Rik
 
  -Original Message-
  From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
 
 
  Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
  recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his
recommendation
 is
  not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as
he
  already made a shameless plug.
 
  ISDN emulator on the NET
  http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
  www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
  www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
  http://www.tele-products.com/
  http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
  http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
  http://www.acacia

RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-02-01 Thread Duncan Stuart

How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man.  Why don't you
reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group.

By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you would
think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some
extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I can
tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they
are ripping you off.

Cheers and best wishes



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rik Guyler
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business. :-}

Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have learned over
the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is as
inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do
the job just fine.

I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied customer
standing up for my preferred vendor!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is
not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as he
already made a shameless plug.

ISDN emulator on the NET
http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
http://www.tele-products.com/
http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
http://www.acacia-net.com/
http://www.taskit.com/
http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html
http://www.digitechinc.com
http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1QtyNA=



Brad Ellis  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Ronald,

 If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
 simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
 Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home
lab.
 I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
 www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the simline2
 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc

 Ronald James  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab
in
  terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating
nda,
  but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or
isdn
  lines??  if it's a simulator, which brand?




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Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-02-01 Thread Brad Ellis

Duncan,

Hi!  Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation.  Rik has
just been one of many happy customers of ours.

While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts,
post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any
under-handed tactics.  When there are questions about our products or
services, we answer them.  I call that customer service, not shameless
plugs.

It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that
you are badmouthing us.  Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but
we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says.

This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please
email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses
to this post/email.  Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Duncan Stuart  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man.  Why don't you
 reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group.

 By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you
would
 think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some
 extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I
can
 tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they
 are ripping you off.

 Cheers and best wishes



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Rik Guyler
 Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


 Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business. :-}

 Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have learned
over
 the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is as
 inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't
do
 the job just fine.

 I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied customer
 standing up for my preferred vendor!

 Rik

 -Original Message-
 From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]


 Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
 recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation
is
 not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as he
 already made a shameless plug.

 ISDN emulator on the NET
 http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
 www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
 www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
 http://www.tele-products.com/
 http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
 http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
 http://www.acacia-net.com/
 http://www.taskit.com/
 http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html
 http://www.digitechinc.com
 http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1QtyNA=



 Brad Ellis  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Ronald,
 
  If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
  simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s,
etc.
  Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home
 lab.
  I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
  www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the
simline2
  you can visit www.cheapisdn.com
 
  thanks,
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
  Network Learning Inc
 
  Ronald James  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab
 in
   terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating
 nda,
   but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or
 isdn
   lines??  if it's a simulator, which brand?




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Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-01-31 Thread Brad Ellis

Ronald,

If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab.
I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the simline2
you can visit www.cheapisdn.com

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc

Ronald James  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab in
 terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating nda,
 but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or isdn
 lines??  if it's a simulator, which brand?




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Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-01-31 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi,

there is also a lot of simulator stuff at:

http://www.teltone.com/telecom_solutions/test_tools/test_home.html

Regards,

Georg


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Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-01-31 Thread c1sc0k1d

Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is
not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as he
already made a shameless plug.

ISDN emulator on the NET
http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
http://www.tele-products.com/
http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
http://www.acacia-net.com/
http://www.taskit.com/
http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html
http://www.digitechinc.com
http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1QtyNA=



Brad Ellis  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Ronald,

 If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
 simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
 Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home
lab.
 I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
 www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the simline2
 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc

 Ronald James  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab
in
  terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating
nda,
  but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or
isdn
  lines??  if it's a simulator, which brand?




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RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]

2002-01-31 Thread Rik Guyler

Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business. :-}

Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have learned over
the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is as
inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do
the job just fine.  

I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied customer
standing up for my preferred vendor!

Rik

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Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is
not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his as he
already made a shameless plug.

ISDN emulator on the NET
http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
http://www.tele-products.com/
http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
http://www.conway-engineering.com/   5105307682
http://www.acacia-net.com/
http://www.taskit.com/
http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html
http://www.digitechinc.com
http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1QtyNA=



Brad Ellis  wrote in message
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 Ronald,

 If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
 simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
 Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home
lab.
 I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
 www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the simline2
 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc

 Ronald James  wrote in message
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  just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab
in
  terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating
nda,
  but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or
isdn
  lines??  if it's a simulator, which brand?




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