RE: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-05 Thread Evans, TJ

Hmm .. never tried this , and
assuming it works I certainly would never recommend /do it ...

If you are truly desperate for telnet  - would the pix allow you to make a
static external address for the inside interface of the pix itself, and
allow telnet to that  and as part
of the telnet permitted pool ?


Anyway - if telnet is required, the usual ways are to either do a bounce
telnet as below or to take it a step further use some port redirection on an
internal host to accomplish the same thing .


Probably worth saying one more time, for emphasis - none of these are
recommended!  

a)  Use SSH, it is free ...

b)  Even better - use 3DES VPN 
... and then telnet from that host to the inside interface
c)  The bestest - use a 3DES VPN to a host and run SSH from there to the
inside interface :)



Thanks!
TJ



-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: PIX questions [7:37129]

If you really want to create a loophole so you can telnet into the firewall
from the outside, and you do not want to create a secure connection to it,
you can place a dummy router (or other telnet ready device) on the inside,
allow telnet to it from the outside, allow the device to telnet to the PIX,
telnet to it and reverse telnet back to the PIX.

Hth,

Ole

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From: MJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX questions [7:37129]


Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee
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Re: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-04 Thread MJ

Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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RE: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

If you really want to create a loophole so you can telnet into the firewall
from the outside, and you do not want to create a secure connection to it,
you can place a dummy router (or other telnet ready device) on the inside,
allow telnet to it from the outside, allow the device to telnet to the PIX,
telnet to it and reverse telnet back to the PIX.

Hth,

Ole

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 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: MJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX questions [7:37129]


Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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RE: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

If you really want to create a loophole so you can telnet into the firewall
from the outside, and you do not want to create a secure connection to it,
you can place a dummy router (or other telnet ready device) on the inside,
allow telnet to it from the outside, allow the device to telnet to the PIX,
telnet to it and reverse telnet back to the PIX.

Hth,

Ole

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 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: MJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX questions [7:37129]


Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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Re: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-03 Thread Swapnil Jain

u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

just add
telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

to allow telnet from ip_address

bye swapnil

Hunt Lee  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Hi all,

 I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can shed
 some light on this:

 1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
 configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get into
 the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the configs,
 and then backs it up.
 My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?

 2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow the
 PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
command
 which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?

 Please help...

 Best Regards,
 Hunt Lee




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Re: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-03 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

That wouldn`t work ! Telnet from outside network is prohibited
even if you define it with telnet blah outside command.
The work around is to protect the telnet traffic with IPSec
or configure SSH if you don`t want hassle with IPSec configuration.

HTH

 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked
 port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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