Re: Passed COD
Maybe the wifes don't understand just like most of us men don't understand the toilet seat lid up thingy. Maybe cause we forget to acknowledge the work the wife performs behind the scenes as we are miles away in our clouds. I am sure to a point it becomes a slight form of jealousy as we take way wife and family time .. But even tho they may not say much to you . I am sure she brags about it to her friends. I overheard a conversation my wife had with one of her friends and it went something like this.. Oh he works on networks and Cisco stuff and servers.. Cisco that the company that joins all the internet together.. ( maybe you have to explain in very basic terms what routers do ) Sigh my kitchenette look like a computer store with cables and equipment all over the place. Heck no I don't touch anything. his mess his problem.. yes the money is great but sometimes he is never home but I am used to it know. it makes him happy and provides for the family so it's good. he has worked very hard to get where he is so at least it's better than race cars. And he has his own money to buy stuff and at least he is home playing rather than in a garage somewhere or driving all over the place. the rest was woman talk So the wifes do understand to a point just as a side bar I just asked my 7 yro old what i do for a job and he said a "computerist" heh. I asked did he know what a network was and he did not know . So I asked him what the internet was and he says a bunch of servers. So I tell OK so Daddy helps build the internet. Ok says the 7 yro then you build servers ? Think it's time for the kids to meet Mr. Ping and the network neighborhood Congrats Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed COD
I sympathize with you about your spouse not understanding what you've accomplished. My wife has said she hasn't understood a thing I've said since I stopped working with servers five years ago :-) Let me offer a warm and heartfelt (virtual) hug of acceptance and respect... - Dennis Laganiere -Original Message- From: CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:27 PM To: 'Group Study' Subject: Passed CCDP I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I passed CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP. I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of my family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished. Does anyone else feel similar? Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP. I took the CCDP 2.0 path. Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not much help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500 switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc. April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult. June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN, IPX and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP. June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I thought it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book. July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press CID book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide. Know specs on ATM gear. I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands on will be good practice for CCIE. Thanks to the group for all of your posts. Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA Systems Design Engineer SBC DataComm [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed COD
I can sympathize. Congratulations it is a big deal. I too do not find many people to talk to or get excited about what I do. It seems to be that way for many many engineers. I have resolved to simply saying "I work with computers" when people ask me what I do because even if I explain it to them they still don't understand and telling them I work with CPU's is just simpler. It is not a job that you can go home and talk about. "Yeah honey, it was cool. I built 3 3-DES VPNS between several branch offices, but it was frustrating because I somehow messed up the OSPF tables". WTF are you talking about?? My uncle is a Doctor and when he says I sewed someones arm back on everyone understands. If you say I attatched a router to a network (the simplest of terms)nobody knows what you really did and how neat that really is, or more importantly all the things it will allow that comany to accomplish. Well hey!! I understand, and even if everyone else doesn't understand, we build networks, we make the internet happen, and we enable the people we work for to do so many incredible things. It is very very important work. Again CONGRATS AUX0 CCNP +Security -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 12:44 PM To: 'CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)'; 'Group Study' Subject: RE: Passed COD I sympathize with you about your spouse not understanding what you've accomplished. My wife has said she hasn't understood a thing I've said since I stopped working with servers five years ago :-) Let me offer a warm and heartfelt (virtual) hug of acceptance and respect... - Dennis Laganiere -Original Message- From: CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:27 PM To: 'Group Study' Subject: Passed CCDP I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I passed CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP. I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of my family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished. Does anyone else feel similar? Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP. I took the CCDP 2.0 path. Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not much help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500 switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc. April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult. June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN, IPX and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP. June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I thought it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book. July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press CID book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide. Know specs on ATM gear. I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands on will be good practice for CCIE. Thanks to the group for all of your posts. Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA Systems Design Engineer SBC DataComm [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed COD
Hey, try saying that you teach computer networking to people! ;-) Everyone says, "Oh, you teach people how to use the Internet?" I answer, "No, I teach the engineers that build the Internet." Then I get blank stares. ;-) It's frustrating. Priscilla At 04:27 PM 7/24/00, Chris Larson wrote: I can sympathize. Congratulations it is a big deal. I too do not find many people to talk to or get excited about what I do. It seems to be that way for many many engineers. I have resolved to simply saying "I work with computers" when people ask me what I do because even if I explain it to them they still don't understand and telling them I work with CPU's is just simpler. It is not a job that you can go home and talk about. "Yeah honey, it was cool. I built 3 3-DES VPNS between several branch offices, but it was frustrating because I somehow messed up the OSPF tables". WTF are you talking about?? My uncle is a Doctor and when he says I sewed someones arm back on everyone understands. If you say I attatched a router to a network (the simplest of terms)nobody knows what you really did and how neat that really is, or more importantly all the things it will allow that comany to accomplish. Well hey!! I understand, and even if everyone else doesn't understand, we build networks, we make the internet happen, and we enable the people we work for to do so many incredible things. It is very very important work. Again CONGRATS AUX0 CCNP +Security -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 12:44 PM To: 'CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)'; 'Group Study' Subject: RE: Passed COD I sympathize with you about your spouse not understanding what you've accomplished. My wife has said she hasn't understood a thing I've said since I stopped working with servers five years ago :-) Let me offer a warm and heartfelt (virtual) hug of acceptance and respect... - Dennis Laganiere -Original Message- From: CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:27 PM To: 'Group Study' Subject: Passed CCDP I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I passed CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP. I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of my family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished. Does anyone else feel similar? Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP. I took the CCDP 2.0 path. Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not much help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500 switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc. April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult. June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN, IPX and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP. June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I thought it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book. July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press CID book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide. Know specs on ATM gear. I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands on will be good practice for CCIE. Thanks to the group for all of your posts. Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA Systems Design Engineer SBC DataComm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
