RE: Windows based sniffer
I don't understand the name of the Web server?! cvp Dinesh_Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/19/2000 04:31:23 PM Please respond to Dinesh_Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Oscar Rau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cisco GroupStudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:(bcc: Claude-Vincent PEREZ/JP-TOKYO-HOLDING/LVMH) Subject: RE: Windows based sniffer Try LanGuard its available here http://nww1.com/go/1454550a.html > -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:54 PM > To: Oscar Rau; Cisco GroupStudy > Subject: Re: Windows based sniffer > > On Dec 5, 3:23am, Oscar Rau wrote: > } > } I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network > Generals > } sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would > you please > } pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me > know. > > It would be helpful if you specified the features you needed. > However, for simple packet capture and decoding, I generally use > WinDump, which is a port of tcpdump from UNIX. You can find it at: > > http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/ > > }-- End of excerpt from Oscar Rau > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
On Dec 5, 3:23am, Oscar Rau wrote: } } I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network Generals } sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would you please } pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me know. It would be helpful if you specified the features you needed. However, for simple packet capture and decoding, I generally use WinDump, which is a port of tcpdump from UNIX. You can find it at: http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/ }-- End of excerpt from Oscar Rau ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Windows based sniffer
Try LanGuard its available here http://nww1.com/go/1454550a.html > -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:54 PM > To: Oscar Rau; Cisco GroupStudy > Subject: Re: Windows based sniffer > > On Dec 5, 3:23am, Oscar Rau wrote: > } > } I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network > Generals > } sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would > you please > } pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me > know. > > It would be helpful if you specified the features you needed. > However, for simple packet capture and decoding, I generally use > WinDump, which is a port of tcpdump from UNIX. You can find it at: > > http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/ > > }-- End of excerpt from Oscar Rau > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
Also there is CNAPro by Chevin Software a UK based company resold by Fredericks Engineering in the US. If there are any problems with the decoder BLAME me. Phil. --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EtherPeek has a great user interface and is much > less expensive than > Network General's Sniffer. Network General is now > Network Associates, by > the way. > > One negative regarding EtherPeek is that its EIGRP > decode is useless. It > doesn't show you what is really happening. EtherPeek > is fine for OSPF and > RIP, by the way. I haven't tried it on BGP. > > Priscilla > > > At 09:37 AM 7/15/00, Scott Nelson wrote: > >on 07/15/2000 08:47, Oscar Rau at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I > heard about Network > > Generals > > > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If > you have the URL, would you > > > please > > > pass it on to me? > > > >--> http://www.sniffer.com/ > > > > > If there other good sniffer products please let > me know. > > > >--> http://www.aggroup.com/products/etherpeek/ > > > > > >-- > >Scott Nelson - Network Engineer > >Wash DC +1202-270-8968 & +1202-352-6646 > >Los Angeles +1310-367-6646 > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-- > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
Hi, I tend to agree with the general consensus that EtherPeek is worth the money. I've been using it for a couple of months now. Only caution I'd raise is that if you want to see all the errors (CRC, Alignment, Runt, Oversize), as well as packet information, check the NICs that are recommended by AGGroup to use with EtherPeek and make sure you use one. http://www.aggroup.com/support/hardware/epw Otherwise you may be disappointed. If you're going to buy EtherPeek, it might be worth waiting a little while as they are about to sell the software with one of the recommended cards in a package. Neil. >From: Scott Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Scott Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Cisco GroupStudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: Oscar Rau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Windows based sniffer >Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 09:37:05 -0400 > >on 07/15/2000 08:47, Oscar Rau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network >Generals > > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would >you > > please > > pass it on to me? > >--> http://www.sniffer.com/ > > > If there other good sniffer products please let me know. > >--> http://www.aggroup.com/products/etherpeek/ > > >-- >Scott Nelson - Network Engineer >Wash DC +1202-270-8968 & +1202-352-6646 >Los Angeles +1310-367-6646 >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >-- > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
Oh please, don't even complain about the W&G analyzers. When you want to decode packets in real time, (not capture/stop/look/hope) you need a W&G. It does multiple realtime decodes on LAN and WAN while you watch. And BTW Network General/Network Ass. never did develop a analyzer for the Windows enviroment. The NG salesmen kept saying that product was coming. The way Network General developed it was to buy Cinco Systems that had a analyzer product called NetXray. And then for some reason NG took out the real time decode window that Netxray had. I have no idea why they did that. I think that Network Ass. got interested in other markets and products and did not pay close attention to the analyzer market, so that made them slow to go to a Windows based product. ElephantChild wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > Network General was late getting into the market for graphical user > > interface analyzers. They stuck to their DOS-based Sniffer for years. Most > > people liked that user interface, but it was old-fashioned. Their newer GUI > > is kind of clunky. > > You ain't seen clunky unless you used (or tried to use) Wandel and > Golterman(sp?) analyzers. Nine years since I did, and my head still > hurts when I think about them. :-) > > I don't think there was any other dual analyzer then, though. Some HP > boxen, maybe, but then probably not for LANs. I'm not sure there's any > now, FWIW (but then, I haven't really looked for one). > > ObWeirdCPUs(xthread): Who uses transputers nowadays? What about > Z800(0|00)? chips? And that Intel ADA-on-silicon thing? IAPX432? Boy, I > feel old. :-) > > -- > Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience > true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Windows based sniffer
At 06:45 PM 7/15/00, William E Gragido wrote: >Etherpeek is pretty cool, although I am pretty sure that Sniffer offers more >total functionality. Sniffer has a built-in expert system that analyzes packets and automatically identifies problems. Sniffer also has terrific decodes for almost every protocol known to mankind. Sniffer has been around the longest so the developers have had more time to implement sophisticated and detailed decodes. Network General was late getting into the market for graphical user interface analyzers. They stuck to their DOS-based Sniffer for years. Most people liked that user interface, but it was old-fashioned. Their newer GUI is kind of clunky. EtherPeek was first developed for the Macintosh. It has always had an elegant and intuitive user interface. EtherPeek doesn't have a built-in expert system, but it does have the Plug-In Info column that shows you useful information. AG Group also sells NetSense which is an add-on product that does expert analysis. Other kudos for EtherPeek: you can capture and decode at the same time. (With Sniffer, you have to stop capturing to view the packets.) EtherPeek lets you open multiple capture windows, each with different filters. Although you can easily tie yourself in knots by opening too many capture and display windows, you can also use these features for efficient troubleshooting. Bottom line: EtherPeek is a terrific product, but some of the decodes need work. Priscilla > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Daniel Cotts > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 11:38 AM > > To: 'Oscar Rau'; Cisco GroupStudy > > Subject: RE: Windows based sniffer > > > > > > Consider EtherPeek from AG Group. Think that it is www.aggroup.com > > All the SEs in the old INS (now Lucent NetworkCare) used it. I think that > > Cisco is making it part of the tools that their SEs carry. Think that you > > can download a demo version. There is a demo version on the CD that ships > > with Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide (for ver 1). Can't comment if it > > included on a later edition. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Oscar Rau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 7:47 AM > > > To: Cisco GroupStudy > > > Subject: Windows based sniffer > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about > > > Network Generals > > > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the > > > URL, would you please > > > pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please > > > let me know. > > > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > -- > > > > > > Oscar Rau > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
Sniffer ( I have Sniffer Pro ) for the complex decodes that Etherpeek has a problem on. For everyday use, Etherpeek work great. For the really complex issues, I use Sniffer Pro. I can also do a capture with Etherpeek and export to Sniffer for the decodes. Sniffer/Sniffer Pro has more decodes than Etherpeek. I think Sniffer Basic is only 500.00 more then Etherpeek. http://www.sniffer.com/asp_set/products/tnv/pas.asp Sniffer Pro does more than Sniffer Basic but looking at NAI's website, I have no idea what that is. Their website is not exactly clear on what the differences are. Anyone know the difference? I shoot NAI an E-Mail and ask then the difference and post it back here when they asnswer. Scott -- Scott Nelson - Network Engineer Wash DC +1202-270-8968 & +1202-352-6646 Los Angeles +1310-367-6646 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Windows: A 32 bit shell for a 16 bit operating system, originally written for an 8 bit processor on a 4 bit bus by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition! -- on 07/15/2000 19:45, William E Gragido at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Etherpeek is pretty cool, although I am pretty sure that Sniffer offers more > total functionality. > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >> Daniel Cotts >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 11:38 AM >> To: 'Oscar Rau'; Cisco GroupStudy >> Subject: RE: Windows based sniffer >> >> >> Consider EtherPeek from AG Group. Think that it is www.aggroup.com >> All the SEs in the old INS (now Lucent NetworkCare) used it. I think that >> Cisco is making it part of the tools that their SEs carry. Think that you >> can download a demo version. There is a demo version on the CD that ships >> with Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide (for ver 1). Can't comment if it >> included on a later edition. >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Oscar Rau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 7:47 AM >>> To: Cisco GroupStudy >>> Subject: Windows based sniffer >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about >>> Network Generals >>> sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the >>> URL, would you please >>> pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please >>> let me know. >>> >>> Thank you in advance. >>> -- >>> >>> Oscar Rau >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
I would have to recommend Fluke ... a sniffin it will go ... - Original Message - From: "Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Oscar Rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: Re: Windows based sniffer > Network General is now Network Associates - try www.nai.com. > > Hope it helps, > Roman > > > At 08:47 AM 7/15/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network Generals > >sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would > >you please > >pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me know. > > > >Thank you in advance. > >-- > > > >Oscar Rau > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Windows based sniffer
Etherpeek is pretty cool, although I am pretty sure that Sniffer offers more total functionality. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Daniel Cotts > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 11:38 AM > To: 'Oscar Rau'; Cisco GroupStudy > Subject: RE: Windows based sniffer > > > Consider EtherPeek from AG Group. Think that it is www.aggroup.com > All the SEs in the old INS (now Lucent NetworkCare) used it. I think that > Cisco is making it part of the tools that their SEs carry. Think that you > can download a demo version. There is a demo version on the CD that ships > with Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide (for ver 1). Can't comment if it > included on a later edition. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Oscar Rau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 7:47 AM > > To: Cisco GroupStudy > > Subject: Windows based sniffer > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about > > Network Generals > > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the > > URL, would you please > > pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please > > let me know. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > -- > > > > Oscar Rau > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
EtherPeek has a great user interface and is much less expensive than Network General's Sniffer. Network General is now Network Associates, by the way. One negative regarding EtherPeek is that its EIGRP decode is useless. It doesn't show you what is really happening. EtherPeek is fine for OSPF and RIP, by the way. I haven't tried it on BGP. Priscilla At 09:37 AM 7/15/00, Scott Nelson wrote: >on 07/15/2000 08:47, Oscar Rau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network > Generals > > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would you > > please > > pass it on to me? > >--> http://www.sniffer.com/ > > > If there other good sniffer products please let me know. > >--> http://www.aggroup.com/products/etherpeek/ > > >-- >Scott Nelson - Network Engineer >Wash DC +1202-270-8968 & +1202-352-6646 >Los Angeles +1310-367-6646 >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >-- > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
I use etherpeek its easy and cheap Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
Network General is now Network Associates - try www.nai.com. Hope it helps, Roman At 08:47 AM 7/15/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network Generals >sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would >you please >pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me know. > >Thank you in advance. >-- > >Oscar Rau >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Windows based sniffer
Consider EtherPeek from AG Group. Think that it is www.aggroup.com All the SEs in the old INS (now Lucent NetworkCare) used it. I think that Cisco is making it part of the tools that their SEs carry. Think that you can download a demo version. There is a demo version on the CD that ships with Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide (for ver 1). Can't comment if it included on a later edition. > -Original Message- > From: Oscar Rau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 7:47 AM > To: Cisco GroupStudy > Subject: Windows based sniffer > > > Hello, > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about > Network Generals > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the > URL, would you please > pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please > let me know. > > Thank you in advance. > -- > > Oscar Rau > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows based sniffer
on 07/15/2000 08:47, Oscar Rau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network Generals > sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would you > please > pass it on to me? --> http://www.sniffer.com/ > If there other good sniffer products please let me know. --> http://www.aggroup.com/products/etherpeek/ -- Scott Nelson - Network Engineer Wash DC +1202-270-8968 & +1202-352-6646 Los Angeles +1310-367-6646 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]