Re: Cisco vs. Juniper of LSP setup [7:41268]

2002-04-13 Thread nrf

Uh, what are you talking about?  Your question seems to be garbled.  First
of all, there are several ways to establish LSP's in IOS.  If you want to
set up LSP's using normal IGP, then just use LDP/TDP.  JunOS also allows you
to use LDP, or you can create LSP's manually (something that IOS cannot do).

If you want to use MPLS-TE on IOS and you don't want to use opaque LSA's,
then how about using ISIS extensions?


LU  wrote in message
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 I just noticed that in cisco you can not establish LSP without enabling
OSPF
 opaque LSA, this is quite different from Juniper. JUNOS allows you to set
up
 LSP just based on normal IGP information. Am I missing some commands in
IOS?
 Does IOS have a way to enable MPLS-TE without having OSPF opaque LSA?

 Thanks
 LU




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Re: Cisco vs. Juniper of LSP setup [7:41268]

2002-04-13 Thread LU

hmm, okay here is what I was talking about, you can not set up a LSP in IOS
without enabling opaque  or ISIS extensions. I did not make myself clear
that I was talking about TE, so LDP should not be in the picture, as you can
not reserve bandwidth with it, not till we have CR-LDP. Junos allows you
using no-cspf to ignore the TE-database and set up LSP just based on normal
IGP topology.
I just want to make sure that I did not miss some IOS commands here.

Thanks
LU

Another question about IOS LSP, what command do I use to advertise the LSP
tunnel
nrf  wrote in message
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 Uh, what are you talking about?  Your question seems to be garbled.  First
 of all, there are several ways to establish LSP's in IOS.  If you want to
 set up LSP's using normal IGP, then just use LDP/TDP.  JunOS also allows
you
 to use LDP, or you can create LSP's manually (something that IOS cannot
do).

 If you want to use MPLS-TE on IOS and you don't want to use opaque LSA's,
 then how about using ISIS extensions?


 LU  wrote in message
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  I just noticed that in cisco you can not establish LSP without enabling
 OSPF
  opaque LSA, this is quite different from Juniper. JUNOS allows you to
set
 up
  LSP just based on normal IGP information. Am I missing some commands in
 IOS?
  Does IOS have a way to enable MPLS-TE without having OSPF opaque LSA?
 
  Thanks
  LU




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Re: Cisco vs. Juniper of LSP setup [7:41268]

2002-04-13 Thread nrf

Well then the answer to your question is still yes, you can do it.  I see
that somebody on the Juniper list answered it, but I will answer it here
too.  You can set up explicit paths in your TE tunnels (tunnel mpls
traffic-engineering path-option 1 explicit ...), and then set up a
explicit-path.  By doing so, you are creating the TE tunnels manually, so
you do not need a TED, therefore you do not need OSPF or ISIS (or any
routing protocol, for that matter)



LU  wrote in message
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 hmm, okay here is what I was talking about, you can not set up a LSP in
IOS
 without enabling opaque  or ISIS extensions. I did not make myself clear
 that I was talking about TE, so LDP should not be in the picture, as you
can
 not reserve bandwidth with it, not till we have CR-LDP. Junos allows you
 using no-cspf to ignore the TE-database and set up LSP just based on
normal
 IGP topology.
 I just want to make sure that I did not miss some IOS commands here.

 Thanks
 LU

 Another question about IOS LSP, what command do I use to advertise the LSP
 tunnel
 nrf  wrote in message
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  Uh, what are you talking about?  Your question seems to be garbled.
First
  of all, there are several ways to establish LSP's in IOS.  If you want
to
  set up LSP's using normal IGP, then just use LDP/TDP.  JunOS also allows
 you
  to use LDP, or you can create LSP's manually (something that IOS cannot
 do).
 
  If you want to use MPLS-TE on IOS and you don't want to use opaque
LSA's,
  then how about using ISIS extensions?
 
 
  LU  wrote in message
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   I just noticed that in cisco you can not establish LSP without
enabling
  OSPF
   opaque LSA, this is quite different from Juniper. JUNOS allows you to
 set
  up
   LSP just based on normal IGP information. Am I missing some commands
in
  IOS?
   Does IOS have a way to enable MPLS-TE without having OSPF opaque LSA?
  
   Thanks
   LU




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Re: Cisco vs. Juniper of LSP setup [7:41268]

2002-04-13 Thread LU

This does not work for me, that's why I posted to make sure. If I do not
enable TE extension of IGPs, the tunnel refuses to come up, if I disabled
TE-extension at the egress, the tunnel will go down. The response from
others so far pretty much confirmed this. I do not have my configs now, but
if you need I can send them when I get back to office, just to make I did
not miss config anything.

I assume you tested this yourself and made it work, if so, could you please
share your configuration so we all, at least myself, can benefit.

Thanks
LU


nrf  wrote in message
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 Well then the answer to your question is still yes, you can do it.  I see
 that somebody on the Juniper list answered it, but I will answer it here
 too.  You can set up explicit paths in your TE tunnels (tunnel mpls
 traffic-engineering path-option 1 explicit ...), and then set up a
 explicit-path.  By doing so, you are creating the TE tunnels manually, so
 you do not need a TED, therefore you do not need OSPF or ISIS (or any
 routing protocol, for that matter)



 LU  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  hmm, okay here is what I was talking about, you can not set up a LSP in
 IOS
  without enabling opaque  or ISIS extensions. I did not make myself clear
  that I was talking about TE, so LDP should not be in the picture, as you
 can
  not reserve bandwidth with it, not till we have CR-LDP. Junos allows you
  using no-cspf to ignore the TE-database and set up LSP just based on
 normal
  IGP topology.
  I just want to make sure that I did not miss some IOS commands here.
 
  Thanks
  LU
 
  Another question about IOS LSP, what command do I use to advertise the
LSP
  tunnel
  nrf  wrote in message
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   Uh, what are you talking about?  Your question seems to be garbled.
 First
   of all, there are several ways to establish LSP's in IOS.  If you want
 to
   set up LSP's using normal IGP, then just use LDP/TDP.  JunOS also
allows
  you
   to use LDP, or you can create LSP's manually (something that IOS
cannot
  do).
  
   If you want to use MPLS-TE on IOS and you don't want to use opaque
 LSA's,
   then how about using ISIS extensions?
  
  
   LU  wrote in message
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I just noticed that in cisco you can not establish LSP without
 enabling
   OSPF
opaque LSA, this is quite different from Juniper. JUNOS allows you
to
  set
   up
LSP just based on normal IGP information. Am I missing some commands
 in
   IOS?
Does IOS have a way to enable MPLS-TE without having OSPF opaque
LSA?
   
Thanks
LU




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Re: Cisco vs. Juniper of LSP setup [7:41268]

2002-04-13 Thread nrf

Ah, now I finally understand what you're saying.

Yes, it is indeed true that, for some very odd reason, you must have some
kind of TED enabled in order for TE to work in IOS.  However, what you can
do is create explicit paths that ignore the TED.  But it is indeed the case
that if you have no TED, the TE tunnels will drop, even if those tunnels do
not use the TED.


LU  wrote in message
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 This does not work for me, that's why I posted to make sure. If I do not
 enable TE extension of IGPs, the tunnel refuses to come up, if I disabled
 TE-extension at the egress, the tunnel will go down. The response from
 others so far pretty much confirmed this. I do not have my configs now,
but
 if you need I can send them when I get back to office, just to make I did
 not miss config anything.

 I assume you tested this yourself and made it work, if so, could you
please
 share your configuration so we all, at least myself, can benefit.

 Thanks
 LU


 nrf  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Well then the answer to your question is still yes, you can do it.  I
see
  that somebody on the Juniper list answered it, but I will answer it here
  too.  You can set up explicit paths in your TE tunnels (tunnel mpls
  traffic-engineering path-option 1 explicit ...), and then set up a
  explicit-path.  By doing so, you are creating the TE tunnels manually,
so
  you do not need a TED, therefore you do not need OSPF or ISIS (or any
  routing protocol, for that matter)
 
 
 
  LU  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   hmm, okay here is what I was talking about, you can not set up a LSP
in
  IOS
   without enabling opaque  or ISIS extensions. I did not make myself
clear
   that I was talking about TE, so LDP should not be in the picture, as
you
  can
   not reserve bandwidth with it, not till we have CR-LDP. Junos allows
you
   using no-cspf to ignore the TE-database and set up LSP just based on
  normal
   IGP topology.
   I just want to make sure that I did not miss some IOS commands here.
  
   Thanks
   LU
  
   Another question about IOS LSP, what command do I use to advertise the
 LSP
   tunnel
   nrf  wrote in message
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Uh, what are you talking about?  Your question seems to be garbled.
  First
of all, there are several ways to establish LSP's in IOS.  If you
want
  to
set up LSP's using normal IGP, then just use LDP/TDP.  JunOS also
 allows
   you
to use LDP, or you can create LSP's manually (something that IOS
 cannot
   do).
   
If you want to use MPLS-TE on IOS and you don't want to use opaque
  LSA's,
then how about using ISIS extensions?
   
   
LU  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I just noticed that in cisco you can not establish LSP without
  enabling
OSPF
 opaque LSA, this is quite different from Juniper. JUNOS allows you
 to
   set
up
 LSP just based on normal IGP information. Am I missing some
commands
  in
IOS?
 Does IOS have a way to enable MPLS-TE without having OSPF opaque
 LSA?

 Thanks
 LU




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