RE: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer

What you need to do is use tunnels with frame relay to fix this. You have
the cause exactly right too. There is no equivalent to the ip ospf network
command.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

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Nigel Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:11 AM
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Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.


Hi All,
   I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.  It =
would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf =
network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay =
encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
frame-relay cloud.=20

I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg. 652.  =
I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome, and =
Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able =
to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point, =
being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when observing =
the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a partial =
mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
p-t-p's for each pvc.

I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing.. I'm =
I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"

For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that =
covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...


Thanks All,

Nigel.

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Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread Eric Fairfield

If using a multipoint FR interface IS-IS will not work.  Create a tunnel
between the two routers.  Works for me!

- Original Message -
From: Nigel Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CCIE_Lab Group Study
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 AM
Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.


 Hi All,
I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.  It =
 would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf =
 network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
 frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay =
 encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
 can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
 frame-relay cloud.=20

 I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg. 652.  =
 I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome, and =
 Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able =
 to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
 form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point, =
 being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when observing =
 the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
 devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a partial =
 mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
 p-t-p's for each pvc.

 I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing.. I'm =
 I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"

 For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that =
 covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...


 Thanks All,

 Nigel.

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Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread Kevin Baumgartner


Or use point-to-point subinterfaces.

  Kevin

At 06:04 PM 1/12/01 -0600, Eric Fairfield wrote:
If using a multipoint FR interface IS-IS will not work.  Create a tunnel
between the two routers.  Works for me!

- Original Message -
From: Nigel Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CCIE_Lab Group Study
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 AM
Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.


  Hi All,
 I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.  It =
  would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf =
  network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
  frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay =
  encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
  can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
  frame-relay cloud.=20
 
  I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg. 652.  =
  I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome, and =
  Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able =
  to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
  form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point, =
  being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when observing =
  the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
  devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a partial =
  mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
  p-t-p's for each pvc.
 
  I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing.. I'm =
  I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"
 
  For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that =
  covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...
 
 
  Thanks All,
 
  Nigel.
 
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Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread Nigel Taylor

Eric,
 Well in the example I'm working on there's 3 routers on the same 
ethenrnet segment. I'm trying if possible to keep them all on the same 
broadcast segment. This would mean I would have to stand-up 2 tunnels on 
each device to support what I'm trying to do. This seems to be quickly 
becoming a configuration nightmare...Exactly how much ISIS is on the lab.. 
:-)

It's worth a try...

Nigel..




From: "Eric Fairfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Nigel Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"Cisco Group Study" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],"CCIE_Lab Group Study" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:04:25 -0600

If using a multipoint FR interface IS-IS will not work.  Create a tunnel
between the two routers.  Works for me!

- Original Message -
From: Nigel Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CCIE_Lab Group Study
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 AM
Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.


  Hi All,
 I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.  It 
=
  would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf =
  network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
  frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay =
  encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
  can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
  frame-relay cloud.=20
 
  I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg. 652.  
=
  I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome, and 
=
  Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able =
  to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
  form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point, =
  being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when observing 
=
  the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
  devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a partial 
=
  mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
  p-t-p's for each pvc.
 
  I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing.. I'm 
=
  I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"
 
  For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that =
  covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...
 
 
  Thanks All,
 
  Nigel.
 
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Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread Eric Fairfield

Unfortunately the LAB doesn't always give you the option.


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From: Kevin Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eric Fairfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nigel Taylor
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CCIE_Lab Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.



 Or use point-to-point subinterfaces.

   Kevin

 At 06:04 PM 1/12/01 -0600, Eric Fairfield wrote:
 If using a multipoint FR interface IS-IS will not work.  Create a tunnel
 between the two routers.  Works for me!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Nigel Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CCIE_Lab Group Study
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 AM
 Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.
 
 
   Hi All,
  I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.
It =
   would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf
=
   network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
   frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay
=
   encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
   can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
   frame-relay cloud.=20
  
   I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg.
652.  =
   I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome,
and =
   Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able
=
   to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
   form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point,
=
   being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when
observing =
   the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
   devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a
partial =
   mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
   p-t-p's for each pvc.
  
   I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing..
I'm =
   I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"
  
   For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that
=
   covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...
  
  
   Thanks All,
  
   Nigel.
  
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Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread Kevin Baumgartner

I would be surprised if the lab said you must using a "multipoint interface"
and not a point-to-point. Especially since ISIS is not support with this
type of interface.

  Now it could say do ISIS using maybe using "multipoint interface" which
ever method that will work. The suggestion I guess of doing a tunnel seems
like the only way with this type of interface.

  Kevin


At 08:00 PM 1/12/01 -0600, Eric Fairfield wrote:
Unfortunately the LAB doesn't always give you the option.


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From: Kevin Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eric Fairfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nigel Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED];
CCIE_Lab Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.


 
  Or use point-to-point subinterfaces.
 
Kevin
 
  At 06:04 PM 1/12/01 -0600, Eric Fairfield wrote:
  If using a multipoint FR interface IS-IS will not work.  Create a tunnel
  between the two routers.  Works for me!
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Nigel Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CCIE_Lab Group Study
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 AM
  Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.
  
  
Hi All,
   I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.
It =
would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf
=
network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay
=
encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
frame-relay cloud.=20
   
I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg.
652.  =
I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome,
and =
Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able
=
to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point,
=
being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when
observing =
the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a
partial =
mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
p-t-p's for each pvc.
   
I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing..
I'm =
I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"
   
For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that
=
covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...
   
   
Thanks All,
   
Nigel.
   
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