Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-21 Thread Jason

I have seen more than a couple of times trainees install a DB60 cable upside
down. Not sure if the proctor would do that, and even if I'm sure, I won't
tell you. :-P

As for the rest of the stuffs, if you understand and can configure all the
things that you are suppose to know at the CCNP level.. you are quite close
for the lab...


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> I was looking over some troubleshooting stuff and on of the scenario's
> involved a router that was fine and the admin goes to lunch.
> Comes back from lunch,S0 is down and down,a show controller  sees no cable
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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-22 Thread amanda lalli-cafini

Good Day Guys,

I am looking for a reference for CCIE study.
I am currently a CCNA and schedualed to take the Switching exam in about 2
weeks.  After that ,  I will only need the CIT for CCNP.

I noticed that you said that if you prepared well for CCNP that the CCIE
wasn't that much further.

I hope that is true.

I have been working with cisco products for about 4 years now.
I have been slow at getting certified , mostly, out of a lack of
confidence  Well... out of laziness and a lack of confidence.

Are you a ccie


regards,

amanda


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RE: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-22 Thread Jim Brown

You can definitely install a DB60 upside down. I won't even say I've watched
a trainee do it, I've done it myself. It is easier than you think, the hood
becomes distorted and it becomes even easier the next time.

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I was looking over some troubleshooting stuff and on of the scenario's
involved a router that was fine and the admin goes to lunch. Comes back from
lunch,S0 is down and down,a show controller  sees no cable . The rest of the
garbage raves on about about the DB60 being symmetrical and the cable was
installed upside down. Every DB 60 I have seen was NOT symmetrical and would
take some cutting with tin snips to install upside down.
 
The 12 secenario's I saw were really advanced CCNA not even CCNP level
stuff.. Is this the standard of CCIEpreps stuff ???

Oz

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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-22 Thread MADMAN

Yes it's quite easy to do!!  Been there, done that :(

  Dave

Jim Brown wrote:
> 
> You can definitely install a DB60 upside down. I won't even say I've
watched
> a trainee do it, I've done it myself. It is easier than you think, the hood
> becomes distorted and it becomes even easier the next time.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ozzie Sutcliffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]
> 
> I was looking over some troubleshooting stuff and on of the scenario's
> involved a router that was fine and the admin goes to lunch. Comes back
from
> lunch,S0 is down and down,a show controller  sees no cable . The rest of
the
> garbage raves on about about the DB60 being symmetrical and the cable was
> installed upside down. Every DB 60 I have seen was NOT symmetrical and
would
> take some cutting with tin snips to install upside down.
> 
> The 12 secenario's I saw were really advanced CCNA not even CCNP level
> stuff.. Is this the standard of CCIEpreps stuff ???
> 
> Oz
> 
> [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]
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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-22 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Slightly related is a favorite troubleshooting exercise of one of the 
first 10 CCIEs:  set up a dual-homed site, and switch the two WAN 
cables during lunch.

>Yes it's quite easy to do!!  Been there, done that :(
>
>   Dave
>
>Jim Brown wrote:
>>
>>  You can definitely install a DB60 upside down. I won't even say I've
>watched
>>  a trainee do it, I've done it myself. It is easier than you think, the
hood
>>  becomes distorted and it becomes even easier the next time.
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Ozzie Sutcliffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:35 PM
>>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Subject: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]
>>
>>  I was looking over some troubleshooting stuff and on of the scenario's
>>  involved a router that was fine and the admin goes to lunch. Comes back
>from
>>  lunch,S0 is down and down,a show controller  sees no cable . The rest of
>the
>>  garbage raves on about about the DB60 being symmetrical and the cable was
>>  installed upside down. Every DB 60 I have seen was NOT symmetrical and
>would
>>  take some cutting with tin snips to install upside down.
>>
>>  The 12 secenario's I saw were really advanced CCNA not even CCNP level
>>  stuff.. Is this the standard of CCIEpreps stuff ???
>>
>>  Oz
>>
>>  [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]
>--
>David Madland
>Sr. Network Engineer
>CCIE# 2016
>Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>612-664-3367
>
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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-22 Thread Brad Ellis

Yes, Lou Rossi frequently uses crack from what I understand.  It's very
popular in Florida!  J/K (Lou's a great guy and doesnt use crack)

It is VERY easy to install one of DB60 cables UPSIDE-DOWN.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
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Network Learning Inc
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> involved a router that was fine and the admin goes to lunch.
> Comes back from lunch,S0 is down and down,a show controller  sees no cable
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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:35 AM 1/22/02, Ozzie Sutcliffe wrote:
>I was looking over some troubleshooting stuff and on of the scenario's
>involved a router that was fine and the admin goes to lunch.
>Comes back from lunch,S0 is down and down,a show controller  sees no cable .
>The rest of the garbage raves on about about the DB60 being symmetrical and
>the cable was installed upside down.
>Every DB 60 I have seen was NOT symmetrical and would take some cutting with
>tin snips to install upside down.

You haven't seen such cables, so you think CCIEprep is on crack? This 
troubleshooting trick is as old as the Cisco training department. Probably 
older than you?! ;-)

Actually, I checked my drawer of old cables and couldn't find any such 
cables, but I'm pretty sure they do exist.

Priscilla

>
>The 12 secenario's I saw were really advanced CCNA not even CCNP level
>stuff..
>Is this the standard of CCIEpreps stuff ???
>
>Oz


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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Jun 14,  2:36pm, "Tom Lisa" wrote:
}
} I've had that problem with my CCNA students.  With a little effort it is
} quite easy to
} put a DB60 on upside down (even though I labled them "this side up").  The

 When it is upside down they can't see the "this side up" label, so
you need to put a "this side down" label on the bottom.

}-- End of excerpt from "Tom Lisa"




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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-27 Thread Tom Lisa

And I did label both sides.  Still didn't prevent it.  I'm
now leaning towards that super glue fix someone
suggested. :)

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy

"[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)" wrote:

  On Jun 14,  2:36pm, "Tom Lisa" wrote:
  }
  } I've had that problem with my CCNA students.  With a little effort
  it is
  } quite easy to
  } put a DB60 on upside down (even though I labled them "this side
  up").  The

   When it is upside down they can't see the "this side up" label,
  so
  you need to put a "this side down" label on the bottom.

  }-- End of excerpt from "Tom Lisa"
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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Jun 19,  3:51pm, "Tom Lisa" wrote:
} "[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)" wrote:
}   On Jun 14,  2:36pm, "Tom Lisa" wrote:
}   }
}   } I've had that problem with my CCNA students.  With a little effort
}   it is
}   } quite easy to
}   } put a DB60 on upside down (even though I labled them "this side
}   up").  The
} 
}When it is upside down they can't see the "this side up" label,
}   so
}   you need to put a "this side down" label on the bottom.
} 
} And I did label both sides.  Still didn't prevent it.  I'm
} now leaning towards that super glue fix someone
} suggested. :)

 In that case, pick the kid up, turn them upside down, and plunk
them in their seat.  Hopefully, after that, they'll get the hint.  BTW,
don't forget to say, "I'm sorry, I didn't see the 'this side up'
label."

}-- End of excerpt from "Tom Lisa"




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Re: Is CCIEprep on crack or what ? [7:32787]

2002-01-28 Thread Tom Lisa

An excellent suggestion, unfortunately I'm physically incapable of
implementing and I
can't afford the legal fees after the parents sue me.  This is the U.S.
after all, land
of the lawyers and home of the litigants.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy


"[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)" wrote:

> On Jun 19,  3:51pm, "Tom Lisa" wrote:
> } "[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)" wrote:
> }   On Jun 14,  2:36pm, "Tom Lisa" wrote:
> }   }
> }   } I've had that problem with my CCNA students.  With a little effort
> }   it is
> }   } quite easy to
> }   } put a DB60 on upside down (even though I labled them "this side
> }   up").  The
> }
> }When it is upside down they can't see the "this side up" label,
> }   so
> }   you need to put a "this side down" label on the bottom.
> }
> } And I did label both sides.  Still didn't prevent it.  I'm
> } now leaning towards that super glue fix someone
> } suggested. :)
>
>  In that case, pick the kid up, turn them upside down, and plunk
> them in their seat.  Hopefully, after that, they'll get the hint.  BTW,
> don't forget to say, "I'm sorry, I didn't see the 'this side up'
> label."
>
> }-- End of excerpt from "Tom Lisa"




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