Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
That is the differance, vol2 has BGP and multicast, some IPV6 and NAT. Stuff that's not really in vol1 so It depends what you want to learn. If your really interested in BGP then don't get vol1 or vol2 but Internet Routing Architectures VolII :) Dave juno vtv wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing > TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting > arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Thanks! > > -junovtv -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24279&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
At 02:25 PM 10/26/01, juno vtv wrote: >Hi everybody, > >Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing >TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting >arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Depends on what you want to learn. They cover different topics. Volume I covers routing in general, TCP/IP review, static and default routing, RIPv1, RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF, IS-IS, route redistribution, route filtering. It's superb and by far the best way to learn EIGRP and OSPF. Volume II covers BGP, multicast, and IPv6. I didn't buy it because I have other books on those topics. >Thanks! > >-junovtv Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24277&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
In my opinion, Vol. 1 is a must-have book. You should run--not walk-- to your nearest bookstore and buy it. I've flipped through Vol. 2 and didn't feel compelled to buy it. I've heard that it is an okay book, but the material is perhaps covered better in other books. For instance, if you want BGP in a book you should get Internet Routing Architectures 2nd edition instead. HTH, John >>> "juno vtv" 10/26/01 12:25:14 PM >>> Hi everybody, Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Thanks! -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24275&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Thank you guys for the info! I would like to get a book for IGPs and then one for BGP. So would you guys recommend VOL 1 and Halabi's IRA? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24280&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Halabi is to BGP what Doyle I is to IGPs a must have. - Original Message - From: "juno vtv" To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269] > Thank you guys for the info! I would like to get a book for IGPs and then > one for BGP. So would you guys recommend VOL 1 and Halabi's IRA? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24282&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
The first one is a must. - Original Message - From: "juno vtv" To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269] > Hi everybody, > > Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing > TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting > arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Thanks! > > -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24281&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Thanks everybody for the advice! I have just ordered Doyle vol1, Halabi's IRA, and Caslow's Router, Switches and Bridges. I won't get it till next week, darn it! What do you guys think of Caslow's book? -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24284&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
I found both books to be excellent, there is a lot of valuable information in both. I agree with John on Volume 1, it is a must have. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269] In my opinion, Vol. 1 is a must-have book. You should run--not walk-- to your nearest bookstore and buy it. I've flipped through Vol. 2 and didn't feel compelled to buy it. I've heard that it is an okay book, but the material is perhaps covered better in other books. For instance, if you want BGP in a book you should get Internet Routing Architectures 2nd edition instead. HTH, John >>> "juno vtv" 10/26/01 12:25:14 PM >>> Hi everybody, Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Thanks! -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24287&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Both. At 02:25 PM 10/26/2001 -0400, juno vtv wrote: >Hi everybody, > >Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing >TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting >arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Thanks! > >-junovtv x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx Lucent Technologies NetworkCare Professional Services http//www.lucent.com/netcare/ Darren S. Crawford - CCNA, CCDA, CCIE Written Northwest Region - Sacramento Office Voicemail (916) 859-5200 x310 Pager (800) 467-1467 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx "You always have time for things you put first" - Tucker Resources Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24290&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
or neither. seriously. Doyle has his place in the study cycle. on the other hand, I found Terry Slattery's book to be outstanding, with some far more interesting examples. some of the exercises are definitely worth the extra study. I've written before about the Parkhurst BGP book, which I think on the whole offers far better CCIE Lab preparation material than does Halabi ( although maybe not as good in the theory department ) what it comes down to is where you are in your studies and your background. Somebody just starting in networking is probably going to gain far more from reading Lammle than Berkowitz. On the other hand, someone at the point of their studies or career where they understand Berkowitz might find Lammle far less worthwhile. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Crawford Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269] Both. At 02:25 PM 10/26/2001 -0400, juno vtv wrote: >Hi everybody, > >Does anybody know what the difference are between Jeff Doyle's Routing >TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2, besides BGP stuff?I have heard some conflicting >arguments about these books. Which volume would you guys recommend? Thanks! > >-junovtv x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx Lucent Technologies NetworkCare Professional Services http//www.lucent.com/netcare/ Darren S. Crawford - CCNA, CCDA, CCIE Written Northwest Region - Sacramento Office Voicemail (916) 859-5200 x310 Pager (800) 467-1467 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx "You always have time for things you put first" - Tucker Resources Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24307&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Are you referring to Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks 2nd edition and Cisco BGP-4 Commands? Thank you for the insight! I will consider these books for my library. Any other books you guys recommend that is not on the recommended reading list? I would be interested in hearing opinions about books that are not just for the CCIE, but to broaden one's knowledge. So if you guys and gals have a favorite, please share!!! -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24313&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
High Availabilty Networking w/Cisco http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201704552/qid=1004154377/sr=1-4/ref= sr_1_11_4/002-9042665-9361623 Mind the wrap ""juno vtv"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Are you referring to Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks 2nd edition and > Cisco BGP-4 Commands? > Thank you for the insight! I will consider these books for my library. > Any other books you guys recommend that is not on the recommended reading > list? I would be interested in hearing opinions about books that are not > just for the CCIE, but to broaden one's knowledge. > So if you guys and gals have a favorite, please share!!! > > -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24322&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Ok I ask which books you use to cover these topics Oz Priscilla Oppenheimer said.. Volume II covers BGP, multicast, and IPv6. I didn't buy it because I have other books on those topics. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24413&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
For BGP, the winner is Halabi. For multicast, the winner is Beau Williamson. For IPv6, I just discovered a great book by an author who I have admired for over ten years, which is Implementing IPv6 by Mark Miller. At 09:42 AM 10/28/01, Ozzie sutcliffe wrote: >Ok > >I ask which books you use to cover these topics > >Oz >Priscilla Oppenheimer said.. >Volume II covers BGP, multicast, and IPv6. I didn't buy it because I have >other books on those topics. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24437&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jeff Doyle Vol I or II? [7:24269]
Thanks BTW are you still doing sniffer training as I get few folks ask me for somewhere to go oz Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24445&t=24269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
