Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
If there weren't any bugs, it wouldn't be Cisco. Ken Diliberto wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I interpret the question to inquire if one should take Lab version 1.0 or wait for Lab version 1.01. There are bound to be bugs. The_Jester 07/14/02 04:40PM The point I was trying to make is that the subject matter is not so hard that one needs to cheat to pass. Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 7:48 AM + 7/14/02, The_Jester wrote: Take the exam on the 5th. If you need to rely on others to break the NDA before you can pass (as Chuck suggests), then you don't deserve the certification anyway. None of this stuff is Rocket Science. Years ago, I was teaching a networking seminar at Kennedy Space Center. On a break, I wandered to the door of one of the other classrooms and listened in on the course in progress, which dealt with the Shuttle propulsion system. I'd swear I heard the instructor, frustrated with his class, say Hey, this is rocket science, not BGP! In the many mergers that led up to Global Knowledge, PSC was acquired by MacDonald Detweiler, which, in turn, was acquired by Orbital Sciences--which does actually do satellites and rockets. At our first get-together, we inquired if it was now politically incorrect for us to refer to something as rocket science, and they went into hysterical giggles. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48997t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
I personally had a Nov 4th lab date and was able to swap to a Oct 24th date a couple of weeks ago. My thinking was that if they are getting rid of IPX and token switch stuff(fairly easy), that content will be replaced by other areas, not neccesarily the 3550 switch. I was totally geared up to take a test that had token ring and IPX in it and have been preparing for that since Jan. To throw out all of the study effort was painful and I didn't want to conquer new ground right now. I still need some more work on ATM, VOIP and BGP but everything else is pretty good. One good thing is that I am taking Caslow's class in Sept and he will be covering both the pre Nov 4th material and post Nov 4th material. This way if I am one of the 85% taking it over I will know what else to cover. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49049t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Lab Format [7:48731]
Jester- I think this was a fair question. I'm not asking for details, strictly opinions. Just what part of my post did you find to be 'cheating'? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48828t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
The proctors have been saying it in all the Networkers CCIE powersessions. Paul Jones wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Where did you hear that there were going to be two switches per rack? How do you know you won't have to do any CatIOS?? Please enlighten me ThanksThornton Hopkins wrote: You should go ahead and take it on the Nov.5. Just make sure you spend some time working on the 3550 EMI. There will be two of them in each pod and you will have to route between VLANs. The good new is that you will not have to do any CatIOS (simple but still). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48832t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
I interpret the question to inquire if one should take Lab version 1.0 or wait for Lab version 1.01. There are bound to be bugs. The_Jester 07/14/02 04:40PM The point I was trying to make is that the subject matter is not so hard that one needs to cheat to pass. Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 7:48 AM + 7/14/02, The_Jester wrote: Take the exam on the 5th. If you need to rely on others to break the NDA before you can pass (as Chuck suggests), then you don't deserve the certification anyway. None of this stuff is Rocket Science. Years ago, I was teaching a networking seminar at Kennedy Space Center. On a break, I wandered to the door of one of the other classrooms and listened in on the course in progress, which dealt with the Shuttle propulsion system. I'd swear I heard the instructor, frustrated with his class, say Hey, this is rocket science, not BGP! In the many mergers that led up to Global Knowledge, PSC was acquired by MacDonald Detweiler, which, in turn, was acquired by Orbital Sciences--which does actually do satellites and rockets. At our first get-together, we inquired if it was now politically incorrect for us to refer to something as rocket science, and they went into hysterical giggles. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48853t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
Take the exam on the 5th. If you need to rely on others to break the NDA before you can pass (as Chuck suggests), then you don't deserve the certification anyway. None of this stuff is Rocket Science. Gene Volpe wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have my lab scheduled for Nov. 5th. This is the first day that the lab will go to the new format . I am curious as to what people would think if they were scheduled for this date. Do you think it is dangerous and I should move it, or it does not matter? Just wondereing if anyone had any kind of experience taking the lab right around the time it changed. Thanx in advance. -Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48750t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
At 7:48 AM + 7/14/02, The_Jester wrote: Take the exam on the 5th. If you need to rely on others to break the NDA before you can pass (as Chuck suggests), then you don't deserve the certification anyway. None of this stuff is Rocket Science. Years ago, I was teaching a networking seminar at Kennedy Space Center. On a break, I wandered to the door of one of the other classrooms and listened in on the course in progress, which dealt with the Shuttle propulsion system. I'd swear I heard the instructor, frustrated with his class, say Hey, this is rocket science, not BGP! In the many mergers that led up to Global Knowledge, PSC was acquired by MacDonald Detweiler, which, in turn, was acquired by Orbital Sciences--which does actually do satellites and rockets. At our first get-together, we inquired if it was now politically incorrect for us to refer to something as rocket science, and they went into hysterical giggles. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48765t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
The point I was trying to make is that the subject matter is not so hard that one needs to cheat to pass. Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 7:48 AM + 7/14/02, The_Jester wrote: Take the exam on the 5th. If you need to rely on others to break the NDA before you can pass (as Chuck suggests), then you don't deserve the certification anyway. None of this stuff is Rocket Science. Years ago, I was teaching a networking seminar at Kennedy Space Center. On a break, I wandered to the door of one of the other classrooms and listened in on the course in progress, which dealt with the Shuttle propulsion system. I'd swear I heard the instructor, frustrated with his class, say Hey, this is rocket science, not BGP! In the many mergers that led up to Global Knowledge, PSC was acquired by MacDonald Detweiler, which, in turn, was acquired by Orbital Sciences--which does actually do satellites and rockets. At our first get-together, we inquired if it was now politically incorrect for us to refer to something as rocket science, and they went into hysterical giggles. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48791t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
You should go ahead and take it on the Nov.5. Just make sure you spend some time working on the 3550 EMI. There will be two of them in each pod and you will have to route between VLANs. The good new is that you will not have to do any CatIOS (simple but still). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48800t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
Where did you hear that there were going to be two switches per rack? How do you know you won't have to do any CatIOS?? Please enlighten me ThanksThornton Hopkins wrote: You should go ahead and take it on the Nov.5. Just make sure you spend some time working on the 3550 EMI. There will be two of them in each pod and you will have to route between VLANs. The good new is that you will not have to do any CatIOS (simple but still). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48810t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
I suspect it is going to become VERY difficult to find open dates in the few weeks prior to November 4, the day the new format becomes official. Unless you want to travel to one of the lesser utilized labs in South America or the Pacific region. Best advice? Maybe delay your attempt, and see what you can scout up from the first folks through the pipe. 2nd best advice - get hold of one of those switches now and start banging it. It's not real hard to figure the kinds of things Cisco is going to test. JMHO Gene Volpe wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have my lab scheduled for Nov. 5th. This is the first day that the lab will go to the new format . I am curious as to what people would think if they were scheduled for this date. Do you think it is dangerous and I should move it, or it does not matter? Just wondereing if anyone had any kind of experience taking the lab right around the time it changed. Thanx in advance. -Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48733t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Lab Format [7:48731]
Gene, That would probably be a good question for you to ask the Cisco CCIE collective team: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/askcisco.asp I'm sure they might be able to help provide some additional insite into what will happen on Nov. 5th. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net Gene Volpe wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have my lab scheduled for Nov. 5th. This is the first day that the lab will go to the new format . I am curious as to what people would think if they were scheduled for this date. Do you think it is dangerous and I should move it, or it does not matter? Just wondereing if anyone had any kind of experience taking the lab right around the time it changed. Thanx in advance. -Gene Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48735t=48731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
