RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-04-05 Thread perez claude-vincent

Thanks to you all,

--- "Connary, Julie Ann" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 an easier way to find the problem is to debug ospf
 flooding and/or lsa 
 generation. Then you do not
 have to go through the pain of waiting for the link
 to be quiet for each 
 interface as you bring it up.
 
 Julie Ann
 
 At 02:31 PM 3/27/2001 -0600, Alan Basinger wrote:
 Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from
 redistribution into IGRP and your
 LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.
 
 Alan
 
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 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
 Redistribution brings it up.
 
 What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF
 forms an adjacency. Then,
 since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are
 squelched and OSPF routes
 associated with those LSA's do not age out of the
 routing table. Then, the
 layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is
 no interesting traffic.
 
 Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are
 redistributing into OSPF sees
 it's link drop, and changes its tables in
 accordance with the topology
 change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF,
 and OSPF floods LSA's out
 announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the
 link while OSPF converges.
 Then, after a while, things are stable again, and
 the link drops - and guess
 what?  That's right! The whole thing starts
 again...
 
 There are ways to stop it.
 
 Z
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  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
  
  I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here
 is how I fixed it:
  
  1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all
 other interfaces besides the
  interfaces
   between the two related routers;
  
  2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF
 ones);
  
  3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
  
  3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It
 should be quiet now.
  
  4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut
 down one by one and
  verify
   that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should
 might come up briefly but it
  should go
   down and keep quiet after some interfaces
 are unshut.  If the ISDN
  line
  keep dialing, you should know which interface
 is causing the problem.
  
  5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you
 unshut all interfaces, turn on
  your other router
   protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.
  Again, verify the IDN
  line after
   each change as above.
  
  5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you
 enable all other routing
  protocols, turn on your
  redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN
 line along the way.
  
  If you follow these steps, you should be able to
 pin down what is causing
  your ISDN
  line to stay up.
  
  Hope it helps.
  
  George Zhang
  
  
"Donald B Johnson Jr"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
  It may keep the connection open though even after
 there is no intresting
  traffic.
  Don
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  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is
 brought up because of web
  traffic
CDP packets would then traverse the line
 consume a small amount of
bandwidth.
I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without
 turning off CDP and never
  had
and issue but also didn't think about the
 bandwidth consumption at the
  time.
   
Alan
   
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    Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
   
   
It may not, I have just always disabled it on
 dialer links as a habit.
  It
makes sense that it shouldn't since the
 dialer-list defines layer 3
  traffic
o

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-04-03 Thread Connary, Julie Ann

an easier way to find the problem is to debug ospf flooding and/or lsa 
generation. Then you do not
have to go through the pain of waiting for the link to be quiet for each 
interface as you bring it up.

Julie Ann

At 02:31 PM 3/27/2001 -0600, Alan Basinger wrote:
Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
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 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
 
 I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
 
 1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
 interfaces
  between the two related routers;
 
 2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
 
 3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
 
 3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
 
 4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
 verify
  that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
 should go
  down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
 line
 keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.
 
 5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
 your other router
  protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
 line after
  each change as above.
 
 5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
 protocols, turn on your
 redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
 
 If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
 your ISDN
 line to stay up.
 
 Hope it helps.
 
 George Zhang
 
 
   "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
 It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
 traffic.
 Don
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 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
   CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
 traffic
   CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
   bandwidth.
   I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
 had
   and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
 time.
  
   Alan
  
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   Chris Larson
   Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
   To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
   Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
   It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit.
 It
   makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
 traffic
   only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
 permitting
   all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
   accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
 That
   may help you to se

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-28 Thread Andrew Larkins

the whole idea for DDR is that only interesting traffic will bring up the
link. Once the link is active, then by all means, the routing protocols can
send hello messages. This is for the case where DDR is used for backup
purposes. You will to weigh up the benfits vs costs.



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From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 28 March 2001 15:44
To: Andrew Larkins
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


If you run the bri as demand circuit the only thing that should bring up the
line is topology changes. You would want them to bring up the line so you
have a proper view of the network right? I would adjust the timers to have
the bri go down after 60 or even 30 seconds of in-activity instead of 2
minutes and filter out the /32's so it does not flap and only comes up if
there is a topology change.
Would filtering the multicast networks 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 keep the line
from coming up for any topology change?

Alan

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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution



what about blocking the 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 as interesting traffic. I do
that by default so that updates do not bring up the link unnecessarily
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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
From: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600

I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:

1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
interfaces
 between the two related routers;

2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);

3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;

3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.

4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
verify
 that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
should go
 down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
line
keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
your other router
 protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
line after
 each change as above.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
protocols, turn on your
redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.

If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
your ISDN
line to stay up.

Hope it helps.

George Zhang


  "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
It may keep the con

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-28 Thread Jerry Toomey

Here's what I did.  Changed the access-list to deny and changed the
wildcards from 3 to 255 since IGRP redistributes the classful version of
173.5.8.x network.  See below:

interface BRI0/0
 ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 ...

router ospf 1
 redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map stuff
 network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3

access-list 15 deny 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 15 permit any

route-map stuff deny 5
 match ip address 15
!
route-map stuff permit 10
!


Jerry "Been there.  Done that" Toomey




--- Andrew Larkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 what about blocking the 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 as interesting traffic.
 I do
 that by default so that updates do not bring up the link unnecessarily
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 From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 27 March 2001 22:31
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 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
 Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and
 your
 LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.
 
 Alan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
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 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
 Redistribution brings it up.
 
 What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency.
 Then,
 since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF
 routes
 associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then,
 the
 layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting
 traffic.
 
 Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF
 sees
 it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
 change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's
 out
 announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF
 converges.
 Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and
 guess
 what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...
 
 There are ways to stop it.
 
 Z
 From: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
 
 I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
 
 1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides
 the
 interfaces
  between the two related routers;
 
 2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
 
 3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
 
 3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
 
 4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
 verify
  that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but
 it
 should go
  down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
 line
 keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the
 problem.
 
 5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces,
 turn on
 your other router
  protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the
 IDN
 line after
  each change as above.
 
 5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
 protocols, turn on your
 redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
 
 If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is
 causing
 your ISDN
 line to stay up.
 
 Hope it helps.
 
 George Zhang
 
 
   "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM
 
 It may keep the connection open though even after there is no
 intresting
 traffic.
 Don
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Patrick
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 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
   CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
 traffic
   CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
   bandwidth.

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
 CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
 bandwidth.
 I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
 and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.

 Alan

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 Chris Larson
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
 To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
 Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
 makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
 only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitting
 all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
 accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
That
 may help you to see what is bringing the line up.

 -Original Message-
 From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
 To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
 Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
 up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
 before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

 Did I miss something? :-(



 --- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
  associated with the route-map
  stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
  under OSPF.
 
  -Ya
 
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  Patrick Murphy
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  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
  Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
  IPCDP, it should disapper
  when you no cdp en!
 
  Patrick
 
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  From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
  Larson'"
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  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
   I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
  for efficiency.
  
   Leah
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Jay Chandradas
   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
   To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
  
  
   I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
  interesting traffic is
   permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
  line up. When u do a
   debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
  2.
  
   my 0.02
  
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  Chandradas"
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   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
   Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
   
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Bob Boone
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
  cirquit/igrp redistribution
   
   
Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
  way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
  access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.
   
- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
  cirquit/igrp redistribution
   

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread George Zhang

I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:

1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the interfaces
between the two related routers;

2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);

3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF; 

3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.

4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and verify 
that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it should go 
down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN line 
   keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on your other 
router
protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN line after
each change as above.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing protocols, turn 
on your 
   redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.  

If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing your ISDN
line to stay up.

Hope it helps.

George Zhang


 "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Alan Basinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; perez claude-vincent
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick
Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Leah Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay
Chandradas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Boone' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
 CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
 bandwidth.
 I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
 and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.

 Alan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Chris Larson
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
 To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
 Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
 makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
 only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitting
 all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
 accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
That
 may help you to see what is bringing the line up.

 -Original Message-
 From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
 To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
 Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
 up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
 before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

 Did I miss something? :-(



 --- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
  associated with the route-map
  stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
  under OSPF.
 
  -Ya
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Patrick Murphy
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
  To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
  'Bob Boone';
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
  Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
  IPCDP, it should disapper
  when you no cdp en!
 
  Patrick
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
  Larson'"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
   I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
  for efficiency.
  
   Leah
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Jay Chandradas
   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
   To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
  
  
   I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
  interesting traffic is
   permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
  line up. When u do a
   debug i

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Mask Of Zorro

Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then, 
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes 
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the 
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees 
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology 
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out 
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges. 
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess 
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
From: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600

I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:

1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the 
interfaces
 between the two related routers;

2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);

3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;

3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.

4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and 
verify
 that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it 
should go
 down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN 
line
keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on 
your other router
 protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN 
line after
 each change as above.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing 
protocols, turn on your
redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.

If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing 
your ISDN
line to stay up.

Hope it helps.

George Zhang


  "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Alan Basinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; perez claude-vincent
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick
Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Leah Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay
Chandradas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Boone' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
  CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
  bandwidth.
  I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
  and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.
 
  Alan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Chris Larson
  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
  To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
  Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. 
It
  makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
  only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitting
  all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
  accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
That
  may help you to see what is bringing the line up.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
  To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
  Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
  up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
  before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.
 
  Did I miss something? :-(
 
 
 
  --- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
   associated with the route-map
   stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
   under OSPF.
  
   -Ya
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Alan Basinger

Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
From: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600

I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:

1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
interfaces
 between the two related routers;

2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);

3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;

3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.

4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
verify
 that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
should go
 down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
line
keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
your other router
 protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
line after
 each change as above.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
protocols, turn on your
redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.

If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
your ISDN
line to stay up.

Hope it helps.

George Zhang


  "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Alan Basinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; perez claude-vincent
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick
Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Leah Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay
Chandradas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Boone' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
  CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
  bandwidth.
  I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
  and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.
 
  Alan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Chris Larson
  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
  To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
  Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit.
It
  makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
  only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitting
  all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
  accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
That
  may help you to see what is bringing the line up.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
  To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
  Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  Can somebody 

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Andrew Larkins


what about blocking the 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 as interesting traffic. I do
that by default so that updates do not bring up the link unnecessarily
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From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2001 22:31
To: Mask Of Zorro; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
From: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600

I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:

1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
interfaces
 between the two related routers;

2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);

3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;

3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.

4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
verify
 that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
should go
 down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
line
keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
your other router
 protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
line after
 each change as above.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
protocols, turn on your
redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.

If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
your ISDN
line to stay up.

Hope it helps.

George Zhang


  "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM 
It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Alan Basinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; perez claude-vincent
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick
Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Leah Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay
Chandradas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Boone' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
  CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
  bandwidth.
  I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
  and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.
 
  Alan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Chris Larson
  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
  To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
  Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit.
It
  makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
  only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitt

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-25 Thread Jerry Hutcheson

James,

On your access list 15 try changing the mask to .255 instead of .3, even though you 
are using a 30 bit mask at the interface. This has worked for me before.

jer

At 09:59 AM 3/24/2001 -0800, James wrote:
it shouldn't. its layer two, and if you put dialer in debug you see that it
is shown as uninteresting traffic.
- Original Message -
From: "perez claude-vincent" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Ya Wen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Patrick Murphy"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Jay
Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris Larson'" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
"'Bob Boone'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
 up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
 before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

 Did I miss something? :-(



 --- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
  associated with the route-map
  stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
  under OSPF.
 
  -Ya
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Patrick Murphy
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
  To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
  'Bob Boone';
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
  Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
  IPCDP, it should disapper
  when you no cdp en!
 
  Patrick
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
  Larson'"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
   I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
  for efficiency.
  
   Leah
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Jay Chandradas
   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
   To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
  
  
   I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
  interesting traffic is
   permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
  line up. When u do a
   debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
  2.
  
   my 0.02
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay
  Chandradas"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
   Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
    Bob Boone
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
  cirquit/igrp redistribution
   
   
Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
  way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
  access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.
   
- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
  cirquit/igrp redistribution
   
   
 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
  router IGRP

 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
  into OSPG .. allow only
   the
 IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
  with is running IGRP )

 Jay

 when u r redistributing into
 - Original Message -
 From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
 Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution


   Hello all you happy people.
   Router A has ospf/igrp mutual
  redistribution and bri
   int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit.
  it keeps
   flapping.
   i followed someone's advice and created a
  route/map
   filter to filter out bri network from igrp
   redistributing back into ospf.
   what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its
  a big
   thing
   that lots of people had problems with.
   here's the key configs:
   interface BRI0/0
ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf deman

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread perez claude-vincent

Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

Did I miss something? :-(



--- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
 associated with the route-map
 stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
 under OSPF.
 
 -Ya
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Patrick Murphy
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
 To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
 'Bob Boone';
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
 Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
 IPCDP, it should disapper
 when you no cdp en!
 
 Patrick
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
 Larson'"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
  I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
 for efficiency.
 
  Leah
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Jay Chandradas
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
  To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
 
 
  I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
 interesting traffic is
  permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
 line up. When u do a
  debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
 2.
 
  my 0.02
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay
 Chandradas"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
   Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Bob Boone
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
   To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
   Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
 way it is done now, it
   restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
 access-list 15 it has one
   statement and then explisit deny all.
   still not working.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
 router IGRP
   
2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
 into OSPG .. allow only
  the
IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
 with is running IGRP )
   
Jay
   
when u r redistributing into
- Original Message -
From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
   
   
  Hello all you happy people.
  Router A has ospf/igrp mutual
 redistribution and bri
  int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit.
 it keeps
  flapping.
  i followed someone's advice and created a
 route/map
  filter to filter out bri network from igrp
  redistributing back into ospf.
  what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its
 a big
  thing
  that lots of people had problems with.
  here's the key configs:
  interface BRI0/0
   ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
   encapsulation ppp
   ip ospf demand-circuit
   dialer idle-timeout 15
   dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast
 8667007
   dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast
 8667008
   dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
   dialer-group 1
   isdn switch-type basic-dms100
   isdn spid1 9258667005
   isdn spid2 9258667006
   ppp authentication chap
   ppp chap hostname CCIE
   ppp multilink
 
 
  router ospf 1
   log-adjacency-changes
   area 0 authentication message-digest
   area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
   summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
   redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets
 route-map
  stuff
   network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
   network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
   network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
   network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
   network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
   network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3
 log
  

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread Chris Larson

It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3 traffic
only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface permitting
all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in. That
may help you to see what is bringing the line up.

-Original Message-
From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

Did I miss something? :-(



--- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
 associated with the route-map
 stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
 under OSPF.

 -Ya

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Patrick Murphy
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
 To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
 'Bob Boone';
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution


 Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
 IPCDP, it should disapper
 when you no cdp en!

 Patrick

 - Original Message -
 From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
 Larson'"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution


  I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
 for efficiency.
 
  Leah
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Jay Chandradas
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
  To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
 
 
  I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
 interesting traffic is
  permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
 line up. When u do a
  debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
 2.
 
  my 0.02
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay
 Chandradas"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
   Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Bob Boone
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
   To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
   Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
 way it is done now, it
   restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
 access-list 15 it has one
   statement and then explisit deny all.
   still not working.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
 router IGRP
   
2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
 into OSPG .. allow only
  the
IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
 with is running IGRP )
   
Jay
   
when u r redistributing into
- Original Message -
From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
   
   
  Hello all you happy people.
  Router A has ospf/igrp mutual
 redistribution and bri
  int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit.
 it keeps
  flapping.
  i followed someone's advice and created a
 route/map
  filter to filter out bri network from igrp
  redistributing back into ospf.
  what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its
 a big
  thing
  that lots of people had problems with.
  here's the key configs:
  interface BRI0/0
   ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
   encapsulation ppp
   ip ospf demand-circuit
   dialer idle-timeout 15
   dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast
 8667007
   dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast
 8667008
   dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
   dialer-group 1
   isdn swi

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread Alan Basinger

CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web traffic
CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
bandwidth.
I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never had
and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the time.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chris Larson
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3 traffic
only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface permitting
all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in. That
may help you to see what is bringing the line up.

-Original Message-
From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

Did I miss something? :-(



--- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
 associated with the route-map
 stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
 under OSPF.

 -Ya

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Patrick Murphy
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
 To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
 'Bob Boone';
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution


 Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
 IPCDP, it should disapper
 when you no cdp en!

 Patrick

 - Original Message -
 From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
 Larson'"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution


  I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
 for efficiency.
 
  Leah
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Jay Chandradas
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
  To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
 
 
  I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
 interesting traffic is
  permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
 line up. When u do a
  debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
 2.
 
  my 0.02
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay
 Chandradas"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
 
 
   Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Bob Boone
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
   To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
   Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
 way it is done now, it
   restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
 access-list 15 it has one
   statement and then explisit deny all.
   still not working.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
 cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
 router IGRP
   
2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
 into OSPG .. allow only
  the
IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
 with is running IGRP )
   
Jay
   
when u r redistributing into
- Original Message -
From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
 redistribution
   
   
  Hello all you happy people.
  Router A has ospf/igrp mutual
 redistribution and bri
  int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit.
 it k

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread James

it shouldn't. its layer two, and if you put dialer in debug you see that it
is shown as uninteresting traffic.
- Original Message -
From: "perez claude-vincent" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Ya Wen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Patrick Murphy"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Jay
Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris Larson'" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
"'Bob Boone'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
 up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
 before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3  4 only.

 Did I miss something? :-(



 --- Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
  associated with the route-map
  stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
  under OSPF.
 
  -Ya
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Patrick Murphy
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
  To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
  'Bob Boone';
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
  Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
  IPCDP, it should disapper
  when you no cdp en!
 
  Patrick
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris
  Larson'"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
  Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
 
 
   I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
  for efficiency.
  
   Leah
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Jay Chandradas
   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
   To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
  
  
   I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
  interesting traffic is
   permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
  line up. When u do a
   debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
  2.
  
   my 0.02
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay
  Chandradas"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
   Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution
  
  
Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
    Bob Boone
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
  cirquit/igrp redistribution
   
   
Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
  way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
  access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.
   
- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
  cirquit/igrp redistribution
   
   
 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
  router IGRP

 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
  into OSPG .. allow only
   the
 IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
  with is running IGRP )

 Jay

 when u r redistributing into
 - Original Message -
 From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
 Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
  redistribution


   Hello all you happy people.
   Router A has ospf/igrp mutual
  redistribution and bri
   int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit.
  it keeps
   flapping.
   i followed someone's advice and created a
  route/map
   filter to filter out bri network from igrp
   redistributing back into ospf.
   what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its
  a big
   thing
   that lots of people had problems with.
   here's the key configs:
   interface BRI0/0
ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer idle-timeout 15
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast
  8667007
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast
  8667008
dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
   

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Chris Larson

Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bob Boone
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.

- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP

 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
 IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )

 Jay

 when u r redistributing into
 - Original Message -
 From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
 Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


   Hello all you happy people.
   Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
   int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
   flapping.
   i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
   filter to filter out bri network from igrp
   redistributing back into ospf.
   what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
   thing
   that lots of people had problems with.
   here's the key configs:
   interface BRI0/0
ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer idle-timeout 15
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
isdn spid1 9258667005
isdn spid2 9258667006
ppp authentication chap
ppp chap hostname CCIE
ppp multilink
  
  
   router ospf 1
log-adjacency-changes
area 0 authentication message-digest
area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
   stuff
network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
   access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
   route-map stuff deny 5
match ip address 15
   !
   route-map stuff permit 10
set tag 4
  
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Jay Chandradas



I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

my 0.02

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Bob Boone
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
 To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
 restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
 statement and then explisit deny all.
 still not working.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
 
  2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
the
  IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
 
  Jay
 
  when u r redistributing into
  - Original Message -
  From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
  Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
Hello all you happy people.
Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
flapping.
i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
filter to filter out bri network from igrp
redistributing back into ospf.
what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
thing
that lots of people had problems with.
here's the key configs:
interface BRI0/0
 ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
 encapsulation ppp
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 dialer idle-timeout 15
 dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
 dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
 dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 9258667005
 isdn spid2 9258667006
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname CCIE
 ppp multilink
   
   
router ospf 1
 log-adjacency-changes
 area 0 authentication message-digest
 area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
 summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
 redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
stuff
 network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
 network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
 network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
 network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
 network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
 network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
route-map stuff deny 5
 match ip address 15
!
route-map stuff permit 10
 set tag 4
   
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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Leah Lynch

I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.

Leah

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jay Chandradas
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution




I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

my 0.02

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Bob Boone
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
 To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
 restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
 statement and then explisit deny all.
 still not working.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
 
  2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
the
  IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
 
  Jay
 
  when u r redistributing into
  - Original Message -
  From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
  Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
Hello all you happy people.
Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
flapping.
i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
filter to filter out bri network from igrp
redistributing back into ospf.
what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
thing
that lots of people had problems with.
here's the key configs:
interface BRI0/0
 ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
 encapsulation ppp
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 dialer idle-timeout 15
 dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
 dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
 dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 9258667005
 isdn spid2 9258667006
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname CCIE
 ppp multilink
   
   
router ospf 1
 log-adjacency-changes
 area 0 authentication message-digest
 area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
 summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
 redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
stuff
 network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
 network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
 network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
 network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
 network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
 network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
route-map stuff deny 5
 match ip address 15
!
route-map stuff permit 10
 set tag 4
   
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Patrick Murphy

Also check the BRI interface and see if you see IPCDP, it should disapper
when you no cdp en!

Patrick

- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris Larson'"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.

 Leah

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jay Chandradas
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
 To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution




 I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
 permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
 debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

 my 0.02

 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay Chandradas"
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Bob Boone
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
  To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
  restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
  statement and then explisit deny all.
  still not working.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
   1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
  
   2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
 the
   IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
  
   Jay
  
   when u r redistributing into
   - Original Message -
   From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
   Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
 Hello all you happy people.
 Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
 int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
 flapping.
 i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
 filter to filter out bri network from igrp
 redistributing back into ospf.
 what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
 thing
 that lots of people had problems with.
 here's the key configs:
 interface BRI0/0
  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
  encapsulation ppp
  ip ospf demand-circuit
  dialer idle-timeout 15
  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
  dialer-group 1
  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
  isdn spid1 9258667005
  isdn spid2 9258667006
  ppp authentication chap
  ppp chap hostname CCIE
  ppp multilink


 router ospf 1
  log-adjacency-changes
  area 0 authentication message-digest
  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
 stuff
  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
 route-map stuff deny 5
  match ip address 15
 !
 route-map stuff permit 10
  set tag 4

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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Ya Wen

Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15 associated with the route-map
stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address under OSPF.

-Ya

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson'; 'Bob Boone';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Also check the BRI interface and see if you see IPCDP, it should disapper
when you no cdp en!

Patrick

- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris Larson'"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.

 Leah

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jay Chandradas
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
 To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution




 I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
 permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
 debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

 my 0.02

 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay Chandradas"
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Bob Boone
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
  To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
  restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
  statement and then explisit deny all.
  still not working.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
   1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
  
   2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
 the
   IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
  
   Jay
  
   when u r redistributing into
   - Original Message -
   From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
   Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
 Hello all you happy people.
 Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
 int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
 flapping.
 i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
 filter to filter out bri network from igrp
 redistributing back into ospf.
 what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
 thing
 that lots of people had problems with.
 here's the key configs:
 interface BRI0/0
  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
  encapsulation ppp
  ip ospf demand-circuit
  dialer idle-timeout 15
  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
  dialer-group 1
  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
  isdn spid1 9258667005
  isdn spid2 9258667006
  ppp authentication chap
  ppp chap hostname CCIE
  ppp multilink


 router ospf 1
  log-adjacency-changes
  area 0 authentication message-digest
  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
 stuff
  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
 route-map stuff deny 5
  match ip address 15
 !
 route-map stuff permit 10
  set tag 4

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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Mick Vollmer

I had this problem and moved the ip ospf demand-circuit statement to the
other router and the problem went away.  I was using 11.2 code on one end
and 12.something on the other.

Mick


- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Chris Larson'"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Bob Boone'" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.

 Leah

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jay Chandradas
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
 To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution




 I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
 permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
 debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

 my 0.02

 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Bob Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jay Chandradas"
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
 Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Bob Boone
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
  To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
  Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
  restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
  statement and then explisit deny all.
  still not working.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
  Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
 
 
   1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
  
   2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
 the
   IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
  
   Jay
  
   when u r redistributing into
   - Original Message -
   From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
   Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
  
  
 Hello all you happy people.
 Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
 int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
 flapping.
 i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
 filter to filter out bri network from igrp
 redistributing back into ospf.
 what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
 thing
 that lots of people had problems with.
 here's the key configs:
 interface BRI0/0
  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
  encapsulation ppp
  ip ospf demand-circuit
  dialer idle-timeout 15
  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
  dialer-group 1
  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
  isdn spid1 9258667005
  isdn spid2 9258667006
  ppp authentication chap
  ppp chap hostname CCIE
  ppp multilink


 router ospf 1
  log-adjacency-changes
  area 0 authentication message-digest
  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
 stuff
  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
 route-map stuff deny 5
  match ip address 15
 !
 route-map stuff permit 10
  set tag 4

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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Jay Chandradas

1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP

2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )

Jay

when u r redistributing into
- Original Message -
From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


  Hello all you happy people.
  Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
  int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
  flapping.
  i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
  filter to filter out bri network from igrp
  redistributing back into ospf.
  what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
  thing
  that lots of people had problems with.
  here's the key configs:
  interface BRI0/0
   ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
   encapsulation ppp
   ip ospf demand-circuit
   dialer idle-timeout 15
   dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
   dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
   dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
   dialer-group 1
   isdn switch-type basic-dms100
   isdn spid1 9258667005
   isdn spid2 9258667006
   ppp authentication chap
   ppp chap hostname CCIE
   ppp multilink
 
 
  router ospf 1
   log-adjacency-changes
   area 0 authentication message-digest
   area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
   summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
   redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
  stuff
   network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
   network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
   network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
   network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
   network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
   network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
  route-map stuff deny 5
   match ip address 15
  !
  route-map stuff permit 10
   set tag 4
 
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Bob Boone

Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.

- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP

 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
 IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )

 Jay

 when u r redistributing into
 - Original Message -
 From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
 Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


   Hello all you happy people.
   Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
   int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
   flapping.
   i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
   filter to filter out bri network from igrp
   redistributing back into ospf.
   what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
   thing
   that lots of people had problems with.
   here's the key configs:
   interface BRI0/0
ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer idle-timeout 15
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
isdn spid1 9258667005
isdn spid2 9258667006
ppp authentication chap
ppp chap hostname CCIE
ppp multilink
  
  
   router ospf 1
log-adjacency-changes
area 0 authentication message-digest
area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
   stuff
network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
   access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
   route-map stuff deny 5
match ip address 15
   !
   route-map stuff permit 10
set tag 4
  
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Bob Boone

did that, still doesn't work. i'm tagging on going out to IGRP and then
blocking that tag from coming back into OSPF. still bri is flapping. what
the hell? i thought we worked this problem out in groupstudy!
HELP!
- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP

 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
 IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )

 Jay

 when u r redistributing into
 - Original Message -
 From: "Netguy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
 Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


   Hello all you happy people.
   Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
   int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
   flapping.
   i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
   filter to filter out bri network from igrp
   redistributing back into ospf.
   what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
   thing
   that lots of people had problems with.
   here's the key configs:
   interface BRI0/0
ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
encapsulation ppp
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer idle-timeout 15
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
isdn spid1 9258667005
isdn spid2 9258667006
ppp authentication chap
ppp chap hostname CCIE
ppp multilink
  
  
   router ospf 1
log-adjacency-changes
area 0 authentication message-digest
area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
   stuff
network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
   access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
   route-map stuff deny 5
match ip address 15
   !
   route-map stuff permit 10
set tag 4
  
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