RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
Thank you all for your replies. I have solved the problem, apparently these MAU's are not capable of 16mb speeds. I chaned the speed on the token ring cards and the routers to 4mb and everything is working great. I don't need 16mb anyway because this is a non production lab. Thank you all for you help. Joseph J. Slawinski AT&T Global Networks Network Technician CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33744&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
I connected to a mau at work and it was 16mb. Have you solved the problem yet? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of adam lee Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] How are the ri and ro setup and what's the speed of the cards? I thought maus were 4mbs but I could be wrong. I attached a 16mbs device into a port configured for 4mbs and the port began flashing. Not a good thing. If you can't get the maus to work, dump those things and buy a cabletron trix with 24 ports. I think those things are available on e-bay for around $20.00. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] It is possible that the MAUs are defective. Substitution is a good troubleshooting step. Do you know anyone who does have TR working? If so, substitute your MAU for theirs and see if it works for them. Try their MAU with your routers. > -Original Message- > From: Joseph Slawinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > > > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me > with. I have > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb > hubs," they > have no network management capabilities. They don't even > have external > power supplies. > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, > the token ring > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the > rings on the > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that > is working ok. > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert > themselves > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with > network management > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't > find a way to > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media > filters I am > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. > > Thank you in advance for your help, > Joseph J. Slawinski > AT&T Global Networks > Network Technician > CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33646&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
How are the ri and ro setup and what's the speed of the cards? I thought maus were 4mbs but I could be wrong. I attached a 16mbs device into a port configured for 4mbs and the port began flashing. Not a good thing. If you can't get the maus to work, dump those things and buy a cabletron trix with 24 ports. I think those things are available on e-bay for around $20.00. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] It is possible that the MAUs are defective. Substitution is a good troubleshooting step. Do you know anyone who does have TR working? If so, substitute your MAU for theirs and see if it works for them. Try their MAU with your routers. > -Original Message- > From: Joseph Slawinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > > > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me > with. I have > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb > hubs," they > have no network management capabilities. They don't even > have external > power supplies. > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, > the token ring > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the > rings on the > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that > is working ok. > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert > themselves > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with > network management > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't > find a way to > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media > filters I am > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. > > Thank you in advance for your help, > Joseph J. Slawinski > AT&T Global Networks > Network Technician > CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33351&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
It is possible that the MAUs are defective. Substitution is a good troubleshooting step. Do you know anyone who does have TR working? If so, substitute your MAU for theirs and see if it works for them. Try their MAU with your routers. > -Original Message- > From: Joseph Slawinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > > > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me > with. I have > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb > hubs," they > have no network management capabilities. They don't even > have external > power supplies. > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, > the token ring > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the > rings on the > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that > is working ok. > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert > themselves > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with > network management > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't > find a way to > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media > filters I am > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. > > Thank you in advance for your help, > Joseph J. Slawinski > AT&T Global Networks > Network Technician > CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
Are you running 4Mb or 16? Make sure all speeds are all the same. Are you plugging the routers into Ring-In or Ring-Out? (That's a no-no) You say the lights light up every 15 seconds. Does this mean they are only on for a few seconds? >>> "Joseph Slawinski" 01/26/02 02:26PM >>> I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me with. I have two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb hubs," they have no network management capabilities. They don't even have external power supplies. The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, the token ring cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the rings on the hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that is working ok. My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert themselves into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with network management modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't find a way to configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media filters I am using are defective, but I can't be sure. I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. Thank you in advance for your help, Joseph J. Slawinski AT&T Global Networks Network Technician CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33329&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
Try the troubleshooting techniques from Cisco -> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/index.htm select Token-Ring and follow the instructions! If that doesn't give you any luck then turn on debug and check the status of the interface... Also if you have CCO then dump the TechReport from the 2503 -> https://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/OutputInterpreter/home.pl That will give you any field/bug fixes for your version of IOS... Hope this helps...infact the above could be used for practically any problem you have with Cisco hardware! :-/ At 18:21 26/01/2002 -0500, Joseph Slawinski wrote: >I have checked the ring speed, its the same on the token ring cards and the >router. The hub doesn't have a setting for ring speed though. > >Author: Charles Manafa (---.blueyonder.co.uk) >Date: 01-26-02 17:26 > >Have you checked the ring speed? > >CM >- Original Message - >From: "Joseph Slawinski" >To: >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 8:26 PM >Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > > > > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me with. I have > > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb hubs," they > > have no network management capabilities. They don't even have external > > power supplies. > > > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, the token >ring > > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the rings on the > > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that is working ok. > > > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert themselves > > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with network management > > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't find a way to > > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media filters I am > > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33327&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
The MAU's speed cannot be changed, so I am guessing this is controlled between the token ring cards and the router, (they have to negotiate together). The 15 second blinking of the port light on the MAU is only when one PC is attached. I used this as an indicator to prove that the ports were working properly. When both PC's are connected to the MAU, the lights stay on because there is at least two devices that have created the ring. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33326&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
That would be my first guess, you can shut down a ring by mixing speeds on a MAU. Can 2 PC's see each other? On the rings that I've worked on, once a PC entered the ring the light stays on so I would question the 15 second blink. Also check the duplex settings. (sorry couldn't resist) - Original Message - From: "Charles Manafa" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > Have you checked the ring speed? > > CM > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph Slawinski" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 8:26 PM > Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > > > > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me with. I have > > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb hubs," they > > have no network management capabilities. They don't even have external > > power supplies. > > > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, the token > ring > > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the rings on the > > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that is working ok. > > > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert themselves > > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with network management > > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't find a way to > > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media filters I am > > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. > > > > Thank you in advance for your help, > > Joseph J. Slawinski > > AT&T Global Networks > > Network Technician > > CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33324&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
I have checked the ring speed, its the same on the token ring cards and the router. The hub doesn't have a setting for ring speed though. Author: Charles Manafa (---.blueyonder.co.uk) Date: 01-26-02 17:26 Have you checked the ring speed? CM - Original Message - From: "Joseph Slawinski" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me with. I have > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb hubs," they > have no network management capabilities. They don't even have external > power supplies. > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, the token ring > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the rings on the > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that is working ok. > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert themselves > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with network management > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't find a way to > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media filters I am > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33322&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
Is the ring completed on the MAU, IE do you have a patch lead in the RI & RO to complete the ring? I had a similar issue using a MAU which had a similar description as yours, I sused it finally...used one patch lead in RI & RO...Bingo it all works. As Charlles said make sure there both either 4 or 16MB speed. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33320&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
Have you checked the ring speed? CM - Original Message - From: "Joseph Slawinski" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304] > I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me with. I have > two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb hubs," they > have no network management capabilities. They don't even have external > power supplies. > > The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, the token ring > cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the rings on the > hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that is working ok. > > My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert themselves > into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with network management > modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't find a way to > configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm > missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media filters I am > using are defective, but I can't be sure. > > I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. > > Thank you in advance for your help, > Joseph J. Slawinski > AT&T Global Networks > Network Technician > CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33314&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Router problem inserting into token ring [7:33304]
I am having a problem I know most of you folks could help me with. I have two 2502 routers and two token ring hubs. The hubs are "dumb hubs," they have no network management capabilities. They don't even have external power supplies. The problem is I am able to hook up my computers to the hubs, the token ring cards will automatically attemt to insert themselves into the rings on the hubs. The relays light up every 15 seconds, so I know that is working ok. My problem is, I am unable to configure the routers to insert themselves into the ring. I have experience connecting hubs with network management modules into routers with no problems, but I somehow can't find a way to configure the routers to attach to these "dumb hubs." I know that I'm missing something key here. I was thinking maybe the media filters I am using are defective, but I can't be sure. I know this question may sound dumb, but I have nowhere else to turn. Thank you in advance for your help, Joseph J. Slawinski AT&T Global Networks Network Technician CCNP,CCNA,A+,Apple,HP,Canon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33304&t=33304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
