RE: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
Can you forward that link? Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Haakon Claassen (hclaasse) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SIP vs H323 [7:53852] I am not THE expert on these matters but it comes to play in my daily duties SIP is more flexible then H323 and H323 is a suite of protocols for real time traffic, SIP is far more suitable when looking at unified messaging Have a look at SMTP and then look at SIP ... you'll see some resemblance The security issues with SIP are sadly far greater then H323 I can fwd a good link on that regards Haakon Claassen EMEA - IT Transport Services -WAN Cisco Systems De Kleetlaan 6b - Pegasus Park B-1831 Diegem (Belgium) -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: maandag 23 september 2002 20:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852] In what ways was the SIP equipment better? The fact that it comes from a "www/internet" IETF world, versus H.323 which comes from the ITU, wouldn't necessarily mean that it's better. In fact, to make a very broad generalization, the IETF has historically been involved with data networking which hasn't been that concerned about quality. Reliability is achieved, in general, by the sender retransmitting if there's no ACK, which doesn't work with voice. Quality is achieved by various hacks. ;-) At least in the U.S., our telephone networks have always been way more reliable and offered better quality than our data networks, which have been annoyingly flaky. When we pick up a phone to make a call, unless it's Mother's Day and all circuits are busy, it simply works. Problems are rare. Problems accessng data on intranets and the Internet are widespread. So it doesnt' fit with our paradign that you would think that SIP is better because it comes from a "www/Internet" world. SIP may be better because it's always easier to do something better the second time around. SIP is newer. H.323 is old. Anyway, this philosophical debate probably isn't that relevant, but things are slow today at work. ;-) Priscilla Gunjan Mathur wrote: > > I tested one SIP equipement of vonage, and that was > far far better then any device using H323...that's the > reason I want to know the diff in between these two. > What I understand is SIP model works on www/internet > and h323 model is telephony, I believe this is the > main reason for the quality difference. > > What you suggest... > TIA > > --- "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > > I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there > > yet. There is some SIP > > being built into Unity and CM, but until everything > > is SIP (as opposed to > > MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. > > > > I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, > > and I have implemented it > > in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I > > can't wait til it is > > developed and more mature. > > > > > > ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being > > used all over the place > > and > > > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage > > (which uses Cisco SIP > > > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for > > last mile telephony > > > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and > > WorldCom, after surfacing > > > from its financial issues, will be using it on its > > global network as well. > > > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP > > (Microsoft Messenger) and > > > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best > > place to start is > > > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like > > Mitel and Siemens have > > > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > > > > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco > > newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > > > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality > > in its products despite > > > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. > > Though their initial SIP > > > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is > > the logical choice -- > > see > > > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP > > will surface as a more > > > central part of the AVVID architecture for the > > enterprise. A good Cisco > > > link is here: > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/si
RE: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
I am not THE expert on these matters but it comes to play in my daily duties SIP is more flexible then H323 and H323 is a suite of protocols for real time traffic, SIP is far more suitable when looking at unified messaging Have a look at SMTP and then look at SIP ... you'll see some resemblance The security issues with SIP are sadly far greater then H323 I can fwd a good link on that regards Haakon Claassen EMEA - IT Transport Services -WAN Cisco Systems De Kleetlaan 6b - Pegasus Park B-1831 Diegem (Belgium) -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: maandag 23 september 2002 20:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852] In what ways was the SIP equipment better? The fact that it comes from a "www/internet" IETF world, versus H.323 which comes from the ITU, wouldn't necessarily mean that it's better. In fact, to make a very broad generalization, the IETF has historically been involved with data networking which hasn't been that concerned about quality. Reliability is achieved, in general, by the sender retransmitting if there's no ACK, which doesn't work with voice. Quality is achieved by various hacks. ;-) At least in the U.S., our telephone networks have always been way more reliable and offered better quality than our data networks, which have been annoyingly flaky. When we pick up a phone to make a call, unless it's Mother's Day and all circuits are busy, it simply works. Problems are rare. Problems accessng data on intranets and the Internet are widespread. So it doesnt' fit with our paradign that you would think that SIP is better because it comes from a "www/Internet" world. SIP may be better because it's always easier to do something better the second time around. SIP is newer. H.323 is old. Anyway, this philosophical debate probably isn't that relevant, but things are slow today at work. ;-) Priscilla Gunjan Mathur wrote: > > I tested one SIP equipement of vonage, and that was > far far better then any device using H323...that's the > reason I want to know the diff in between these two. > What I understand is SIP model works on www/internet > and h323 model is telephony, I believe this is the > main reason for the quality difference. > > What you suggest... > TIA > > --- "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > > I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there > > yet. There is some SIP > > being built into Unity and CM, but until everything > > is SIP (as opposed to > > MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. > > > > I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, > > and I have implemented it > > in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I > > can't wait til it is > > developed and more mature. > > > > > > ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being > > used all over the place > > and > > > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage > > (which uses Cisco SIP > > > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for > > last mile telephony > > > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and > > WorldCom, after surfacing > > > from its financial issues, will be using it on its > > global network as well. > > > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP > > (Microsoft Messenger) and > > > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best > > place to start is > > > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like > > Mitel and Siemens have > > > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > > > > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco > > newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > > > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality > > in its products despite > > > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. > > Though their initial SIP > > > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is > > the logical choice -- > > see > > > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP > > will surface as a more > > > central part of the AVVID architecture for the > > enterprise. A good Cisco > > > link is here: > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtm l > > > > > > or here (which displays more enterprise > > scenarios): > > > > > > > > > http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index. htm > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jason > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53958&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > In what ways was the SIP equipment better? The fact that it comes from a > "www/internet" IETF world, versus H.323 which comes from the ITU, wouldn't > necessarily mean that it's better. In fact, to make a very broad > generalization, the IETF has historically been involved with data networking > which hasn't been that concerned about quality. Reliability is achieved, in > general, by the sender retransmitting if there's no ACK, which doesn't work > with voice. Quality is achieved by various hacks. ;-) > > At least in the U.S., our telephone networks have always been way more > reliable and offered better quality than our data networks, which have been > annoyingly flaky. When we pick up a phone to make a call, unless it's > Mother's Day and all circuits are busy, it simply works. Problems are rare. > Problems accessng data on intranets and the Internet are widespread. So it > doesnt' fit with our paradign that you would think that SIP is better > because it comes from a "www/Internet" world. CL: this dinosaur personally believes that Voice of IP isn't a real great idea. But then again, I never thought much of shoes with roller skate wheels built in, nor of skateboards that didn't consist of someone's sister's skates cannibalized and nailed to the bottom of a 1 x 4. Nor has this particular dinosaur ever thought much of telco deregulation, something else which seemed like a good idea, but resulted in the destruction of one of this nation's most valuable assets - the telephone network. CL: too old to rock and roll.( although to judge from what my kids listen too, I am beginning to suspect that rock and roll is to them what hit parade was to me :-> ) too old to network, too young to retire ;-> > > SIP may be better because it's always easier to do something better the > second time around. SIP is newer. H.323 is old. > > Anyway, this philosophical debate probably isn't that relevant, but things > are slow today at work. ;-) > > Priscilla > > > Gunjan Mathur wrote: > > > > I tested one SIP equipement of vonage, and that was > > far far better then any device using H323...that's the > > reason I want to know the diff in between these two. > > What I understand is SIP model works on www/internet > > and h323 model is telephony, I believe this is the > > main reason for the quality difference. > > > > What you suggest... > > TIA > > > > --- "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > > > I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there > > > yet. There is some SIP > > > being built into Unity and CM, but until everything > > > is SIP (as opposed to > > > MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. > > > > > > I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, > > > and I have implemented it > > > in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I > > > can't wait til it is > > > developed and more mature. > > > > > > > > > ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being > > > used all over the place > > > and > > > > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage > > > (which uses Cisco SIP > > > > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for > > > last mile telephony > > > > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and > > > WorldCom, after surfacing > > > > from its financial issues, will be using it on its > > > global network as well. > > > > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP > > > (Microsoft Messenger) and > > > > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best > > > place to start is > > > > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like > > > Mitel and Siemens have > > > > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > > > > > > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco > > > newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > > > > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality > > > in its products despite > > > > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. > > > Though their initial SIP > > > > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is > > > the logical choice -- > > > see > > > > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP > > > will surface as a more > > > > central part of the AVVID architecture for the > > > enterprise. A good Cisco > > > > link is here: > > > > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml > > > > > > > > or here (which displays more enterprise > > > scenarios): > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jason > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53935&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives,
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
In what ways was the SIP equipment better? The fact that it comes from a "www/internet" IETF world, versus H.323 which comes from the ITU, wouldn't necessarily mean that it's better. In fact, to make a very broad generalization, the IETF has historically been involved with data networking which hasn't been that concerned about quality. Reliability is achieved, in general, by the sender retransmitting if there's no ACK, which doesn't work with voice. Quality is achieved by various hacks. ;-) At least in the U.S., our telephone networks have always been way more reliable and offered better quality than our data networks, which have been annoyingly flaky. When we pick up a phone to make a call, unless it's Mother's Day and all circuits are busy, it simply works. Problems are rare. Problems accessng data on intranets and the Internet are widespread. So it doesnt' fit with our paradign that you would think that SIP is better because it comes from a "www/Internet" world. SIP may be better because it's always easier to do something better the second time around. SIP is newer. H.323 is old. Anyway, this philosophical debate probably isn't that relevant, but things are slow today at work. ;-) Priscilla Gunjan Mathur wrote: > > I tested one SIP equipement of vonage, and that was > far far better then any device using H323...that's the > reason I want to know the diff in between these two. > What I understand is SIP model works on www/internet > and h323 model is telephony, I believe this is the > main reason for the quality difference. > > What you suggest... > TIA > > --- "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > > I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there > > yet. There is some SIP > > being built into Unity and CM, but until everything > > is SIP (as opposed to > > MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. > > > > I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, > > and I have implemented it > > in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I > > can't wait til it is > > developed and more mature. > > > > > > ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being > > used all over the place > > and > > > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage > > (which uses Cisco SIP > > > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for > > last mile telephony > > > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and > > WorldCom, after surfacing > > > from its financial issues, will be using it on its > > global network as well. > > > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP > > (Microsoft Messenger) and > > > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best > > place to start is > > > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like > > Mitel and Siemens have > > > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > > > > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco > > newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > > > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality > > in its products despite > > > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. > > Though their initial SIP > > > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is > > the logical choice -- > > see > > > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP > > will surface as a more > > > central part of the AVVID architecture for the > > enterprise. A good Cisco > > > link is here: > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml > > > > > > or here (which displays more enterprise > > scenarios): > > > > > > > > > http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jason > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53933&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
The signalling protocol used to set-up/tear-down a converstation wouldn't affect the quality of the voice. Maybe the equipment you used was superior, or was on a low latency network. ""Gunjan Mathur"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I tested one SIP equipement of vonage, and that was > far far better then any device using H323...that's the > reason I want to know the diff in between these two. > What I understand is SIP model works on www/internet > and h323 model is telephony, I believe this is the > main reason for the quality difference. > > What you suggest... > TIA > > --- "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > > I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there > > yet. There is some SIP > > being built into Unity and CM, but until everything > > is SIP (as opposed to > > MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. > > > > I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, > > and I have implemented it > > in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I > > can't wait til it is > > developed and more mature. > > > > > > ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being > > used all over the place > > and > > > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage > > (which uses Cisco SIP > > > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for > > last mile telephony > > > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and > > WorldCom, after surfacing > > > from its financial issues, will be using it on its > > global network as well. > > > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP > > (Microsoft Messenger) and > > > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best > > place to start is > > > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like > > Mitel and Siemens have > > > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > > > > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco > > newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > > > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality > > in its products despite > > > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. > > Though their initial SIP > > > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is > > the logical choice -- > > see > > > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP > > will surface as a more > > > central part of the AVVID architecture for the > > enterprise. A good Cisco > > > link is here: > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml > > > > > > or here (which displays more enterprise > > scenarios): > > > > > > > > > http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jason > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53915&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
I tested one SIP equipement of vonage, and that was far far better then any device using H323...that's the reason I want to know the diff in between these two. What I understand is SIP model works on www/internet and h323 model is telephony, I believe this is the main reason for the quality difference. What you suggest... TIA --- "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there > yet. There is some SIP > being built into Unity and CM, but until everything > is SIP (as opposed to > MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. > > I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, > and I have implemented it > in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I > can't wait til it is > developed and more mature. > > > ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being > used all over the place > and > > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage > (which uses Cisco SIP > > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for > last mile telephony > > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and > WorldCom, after surfacing > > from its financial issues, will be using it on its > global network as well. > > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP > (Microsoft Messenger) and > > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best > place to start is > > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like > Mitel and Siemens have > > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco > newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality > in its products despite > > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. > Though their initial SIP > > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is > the logical choice -- > see > > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP > will surface as a more > > central part of the AVVID architecture for the > enterprise. A good Cisco > > link is here: > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml > > > > or here (which displays more enterprise > scenarios): > > > > > http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm > > Regards, > > > > Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53912&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there yet. There is some SIP being built into Unity and CM, but until everything is SIP (as opposed to MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet. I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, and I have implemented it in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless. I can't wait til it is developed and more mature. ""Jason Weden"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being used all over the place and > will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage (which uses Cisco SIP > equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for last mile telephony > connectivity for residences and enterprises, and WorldCom, after surfacing > from its financial issues, will be using it on its global network as well. > Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP (Microsoft Messenger) and > SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best place to start is > http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like Mitel and Siemens have > developed their PBX completely around SIP. > > To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco newsgroup), Cisco has taken the > time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality in its products despite > the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. Though their initial SIP > focus is on carrier-class products (since that is the logical choice -- see > my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP will surface as a more > central part of the AVVID architecture for the enterprise. A good Cisco > link is here: > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml > > or here (which displays more enterprise scenarios): > > http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm > Regards, > > Jason Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53858&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless. It is being used all over the place and will eventually replace H.323. Telcos like Vonage (which uses Cisco SIP equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for last mile telephony connectivity for residences and enterprises, and WorldCom, after surfacing from its financial issues, will be using it on its global network as well. Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP (Microsoft Messenger) and SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best place to start is http://www.sipcenter.com. PBX manufacturers like Mitel and Siemens have developed their PBX completely around SIP. To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco newsgroup), Cisco has taken the time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality in its products despite the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all. Though their initial SIP focus is on carrier-class products (since that is the logical choice -- see my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP will surface as a more central part of the AVVID architecture for the enterprise. A good Cisco link is here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml or here (which displays more enterprise scenarios): http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm Regards, Jason Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53856&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
h.323 is more robust, but more complicated (both to develop for and learn). SIP is new and easy, but useless right now. There's more security in h,323 right now. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Gunjan Mathur"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > Is Cisco 2600 series support SIP? if yes, Please > forward the web link if any... > > What is the main differance in between SIP & H323, > which gives better quality of output? > > TIA > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53854&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SIP vs H323 [7:53852]
Hi, Is Cisco 2600 series support SIP? if yes, Please forward the web link if any... What is the main differance in between SIP & H323, which gives better quality of output? TIA __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=53852&t=53852 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
