Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
page 58, Interconnections, 2e Algorhyme I think that I shall never see A graph more lovely than a tree. A tree whose crucial property Is loop-free connectivity. A tree that must be sure to span So packets can reach every LAN. Firest, the root must be selected. By ID, it is elected. Least-cost paths from root are traced. In the tree, these paths are placed. A mesh is made by folks like me, Then bridges find a spanning tree. --Radia Perlman Tom Lisa wrote: Priscilla, Didn't Radia write a poem that starts something like I have never seen a tree as lovely as a spanning tree? BTW, is it still possible to get a free copy of 802.1s w. I looked on the IEEE site but couldn't find them. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Cunctando restituit rem Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Get a copy of Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark and Kevin Hamilton. It's right up there with Doyle as one of the best networking books ever written. It makes switching fun again! ;-) It's well written, technicaly accurate and interesting, and it doesn't just throw the latest marketing trends at you with no explanation of their history, like some switching material does. Also, CertificationZone has some good articles and study materials for switching. By the way, switching isn't as dull as it might seem. The spanning tree algorithm can be quite interesting to study. And there are enhancements to it now like 802.1s (multiple spanning trees) and 802.1w (rapid spanning tree protocol). Good luck! Priscilla Oppenheimer Nakul Malik wrote: Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75163t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
All the info relating to this book is good and I'm going to buy on the back of these reviews but... what makes people write switching related poems? Nakul Malik wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75165t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
No sorry I know that peom, no spanning in there at all. LoL Steve Tom Lisa wrote: Priscilla, Didn't Radia write a poem that starts something like I have never seen a tree as lovely as a spanning tree? BTW, is it still possible to get a free copy of 802.1s w. I looked on the IEEE site but couldn't find them. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Cunctando restituit rem Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Get a copy of Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark and Kevin Hamilton. It's right up there with Doyle as one of the best networking books ever written. It makes switching fun again! ;-) It's well written, technicaly accurate and interesting, and it doesn't just throw the latest marketing trends at you with no explanation of their history, like some switching material does. Also, CertificationZone has some good articles and study materials for switching. By the way, switching isn't as dull as it might seem. The spanning tree algorithm can be quite interesting to study. And there are enhancements to it now like 802.1s (multiple spanning trees) and 802.1w (rapid spanning tree protocol). Good luck! Priscilla Oppenheimer Nakul Malik wrote: Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75168t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Tim Champion wrote: All the info relating to this book is good and I'm going to buy on the back of these reviews but... what makes people write switching related poems? Because if we don't laugh at ourselves then we have to cry! :-) You should have heard the explanations of a brouter back in the 80s. You think people are confused now, but they were even more confused back then! And now we have Layer 3 switches! Priscilla Nakul Malik wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75195t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
At 5:00 PM + 9/10/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Tim Champion wrote: All the info relating to this book is good and I'm going to buy on the back of these reviews but... what makes people write switching related poems? Because if we don't laugh at ourselves then we have to cry! :-) You should have heard the explanations of a brouter back in the 80s. You think people are confused now, but they were even more confused back then! And now we have Layer 3 switches! Priscilla Brouter was bad enough. Then, when Synoptics and Cisco were contemplating a merger of Synoptics hubs and Cisco routers, the term (see the little green Cisco glossary) was Rub and Rubsystem. Later, when Cisco came out with combined hubs and routers, the official term was hublet. When I asked one of my classes if anyone knew the new term, someone replied houter? (use American pronunciation). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75204t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 5:00 PM + 9/10/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Tim Champion wrote: All the info relating to this book is good and I'm going to buy on the back of these reviews but... what makes people write switching related poems? Because if we don't laugh at ourselves then we have to cry! :-) You should have heard the explanations of a brouter back in the 80s. You think people are confused now, but they were even more confused back then! And now we have Layer 3 switches! Priscilla Brouter was bad enough. Then, when Synoptics and Cisco were contemplating a merger of Synoptics hubs and Cisco routers, the term (see the little green Cisco glossary) was Rub and Rubsystem. Contemplating? I seem to recall a Cisco router blade that we tested in about 1990 that you plugged into a Snyoptics hub. Later, when Cisco came out with combined hubs and routers, the official term was hublet. When I asked one of my classes if anyone knew the new term, someone replied houter? (use American pronunciation). I like the Queens English pronunciation better ;) Dave **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75208t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
At 3:17 PM -0500 9/10/03, MADMAN wrote: Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 5:00 PM + 9/10/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Tim Champion wrote: All the info relating to this book is good and I'm going to buy on the back of these reviews but... what makes people write switching related poems? Because if we don't laugh at ourselves then we have to cry! :-) You should have heard the explanations of a brouter back in the 80s. You think people are confused now, but they were even more confused back then! And now we have Layer 3 switches! Priscilla Brouter was bad enough. Then, when Synoptics and Cisco were contemplating a merger of Synoptics hubs and Cisco routers, the term (see the little green Cisco glossary) was Rub and Rubsystem. Contemplating? I seem to recall a Cisco router blade that we tested in about 1990 that you plugged into a Snyoptics hub. Oh yes...just like they did with Cabletron. Those were OEM agreements rather than an actual merger. Later, when Cisco came out with combined hubs and routers, the official term was hublet. When I asked one of my classes if anyone knew the new term, someone replied houter? (use American pronunciation). I like the Queens English pronunciation better ;) Dave Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75210t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Heh, I installed quite a few of those Cisco router blades in Synoptics hubs! I also liked their SPARC network management modules, but I don't think that had anything to do with Cisco. Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Studying Switching [7:75030] Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 5:00 PM + 9/10/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Tim Champion wrote: All the info relating to this book is good and I'm going to buy on the back of these reviews but... what makes people write switching related poems? Because if we don't laugh at ourselves then we have to cry! :-) You should have heard the explanations of a brouter back in the 80s. You think people are confused now, but they were even more confused back then! And now we have Layer 3 switches! Priscilla Brouter was bad enough. Then, when Synoptics and Cisco were contemplating a merger of Synoptics hubs and Cisco routers, the term (see the little green Cisco glossary) was Rub and Rubsystem. Contemplating? I seem to recall a Cisco router blade that we tested in about 1990 that you plugged into a Snyoptics hub. Later, when Cisco came out with combined hubs and routers, the official term was hublet. When I asked one of my classes if anyone knew the new term, someone replied houter? (use American pronunciation). I like the Queens English pronunciation better ;) Dave **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75211t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Studying Switching [7:75030]
Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75030t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Kennedy Clark's book for lan Switching for CCIE... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nakul Malik Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Studying Switching [7:75030] Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75039t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Hello Nakul, I had the same problem when studying for the Switching exam. I don't like switches. I know that routers and switching are two different devices and perform different functions, but routers make switches look stupid. I guess that they are two different colors. If you are trying to get your CCNP, the fact is is that sooner or later you'll have to get involved with switches at work. At first, I did not like switch work, but then, when you get some experience, you can end loving them. I used the Cisco Switching Book from the Cisco Press Preparation Library (not Certification library), the one that goes in the C Prep Library, you can buy this alone. Like all Cisco Press books, is overwhelming, bored and makes your eyes close, but it is the best material for the exam, excellent. Take care and good look - Original Message - From: Nakul Malik Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 06:30:54 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Studying Switching [7:75030] Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Diego Martmnez Boqui -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75056t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Nakul, Hi! If you really want to learn about switching, I'd recommend picking up a couple of switches and learning hands-on. It will give you a chance to play around with different configurations. If you've got the bux, go with a couple of 3550s (it'll pay off after you finish CCNP and go for CCIE). If you can't afford that, go with a couple 1912s instead. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Nakul Malik wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75052t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Get a copy of Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark and Kevin Hamilton. It's right up there with Doyle as one of the best networking books ever written. It makes switching fun again! ;-) It's well written, technicaly accurate and interesting, and it doesn't just throw the latest marketing trends at you with no explanation of their history, like some switching material does. Also, CertificationZone has some good articles and study materials for switching. By the way, switching isn't as dull as it might seem. The spanning tree algorithm can be quite interesting to study. And there are enhancements to it now like 802.1s (multiple spanning trees) and 802.1w (rapid spanning tree protocol). Good luck! Priscilla Oppenheimer Nakul Malik wrote: Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75076t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Priscilla, Didn't Radia write a poem that starts something like I have never seen a tree as lovely as a spanning tree? BTW, is it still possible to get a free copy of 802.1s w. I looked on the IEEE site but couldn't find them. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Cunctando restituit rem Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Get a copy of Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark and Kevin Hamilton. It's right up there with Doyle as one of the best networking books ever written. It makes switching fun again! ;-) It's well written, technicaly accurate and interesting, and it doesn't just throw the latest marketing trends at you with no explanation of their history, like some switching material does. Also, CertificationZone has some good articles and study materials for switching. By the way, switching isn't as dull as it might seem. The spanning tree algorithm can be quite interesting to study. And there are enhancements to it now like 802.1s (multiple spanning trees) and 802.1w (rapid spanning tree protocol). Good luck! Priscilla Oppenheimer Nakul Malik wrote: Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75090t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
page 58, Interconnections, 2e Algorhyme I think that I shall never see A graph more lovely than a tree. A tree whose crucial property Is loop-free connectivity. A tree that must be sure to span So packets can reach every LAN. Firest, the root must be selected. By ID, it is elected. Least-cost paths from root are traced. In the tree, these paths are placed. A mesh is made by folks like me, Then bridges find a spanning tree. --Radia Perlman Tom Lisa wrote: Priscilla, Didn't Radia write a poem that starts something like I have never seen a tree as lovely as a spanning tree? BTW, is it still possible to get a free copy of 802.1s w. I looked on the IEEE site but couldn't find them. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Cunctando restituit rem Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Get a copy of Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark and Kevin Hamilton. It's right up there with Doyle as one of the best networking books ever written. It makes switching fun again! ;-) It's well written, technicaly accurate and interesting, and it doesn't just throw the latest marketing trends at you with no explanation of their history, like some switching material does. Also, CertificationZone has some good articles and study materials for switching. By the way, switching isn't as dull as it might seem. The spanning tree algorithm can be quite interesting to study. And there are enhancements to it now like 802.1s (multiple spanning trees) and 802.1w (rapid spanning tree protocol). Good luck! Priscilla Oppenheimer Nakul Malik wrote: Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75110t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Studying Switching [7:75030]
Tom Lisa wrote: Priscilla, Didn't Radia write a poem that starts something like I have never seen a tree as lovely as a spanning tree? BTW, is it still possible to get a free copy of 802.1s w. I looked on the IEEE site but couldn't find them. Sure you can still get them for free. You have to agree to something. I just clicked on Accept. I don't know what I agreed to. ;-) Seriously, I think it was something about copyright, which is important... Anyway, just go to http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/ and click away. Much better than the old days when you had to pay hundreds of dollars, eh? Priscilla Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Cunctando restituit rem Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Get a copy of Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark and Kevin Hamilton. It's right up there with Doyle as one of the best networking books ever written. It makes switching fun again! ;-) It's well written, technicaly accurate and interesting, and it doesn't just throw the latest marketing trends at you with no explanation of their history, like some switching material does. Also, CertificationZone has some good articles and study materials for switching. By the way, switching isn't as dull as it might seem. The spanning tree algorithm can be quite interesting to study. And there are enhancements to it now like 802.1s (multiple spanning trees) and 802.1w (rapid spanning tree protocol). Good luck! Priscilla Oppenheimer Nakul Malik wrote: Hi all, I started off studying routing and found it to be a topic that interested me a lot. I just couldn't get enough of halabi Doyle and the rest. I studied a lot, practiced a lot and was thrilled when I passed the exam in beta. Next I started studying for switching. That didn't turn out as well as I thought it would. I couldn't just work up the same level of interest. I have been analyzing the reasons and have come up with the following: 1. I've never worked with switches much, so I don't know too much about them, as opposed to routers. 2. Study materials. I've been wondering, has anyone else faced similar problems in their quest for CCNP. Also, could someone recommend some good materials/resources for switching other than the official Cisco book? Any/all answers would be appreciated. Thanks. -N -- Nakul Malik H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 Mobile: +91-9811424477 Ph: +91-11- 2582 3488 +91-11- 2585 0155 Fax:: +91-11- 2575 2904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75104t=75030 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
