Re: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Enders
Andrew,
You are asking how to set something up without all the pieces necessary
to make it work. And you are describing developing a dialplan that does
not adhere to common conventions. That part is okay, you can define how
you route calls in-to and out-of your own voice network pretty much any
way you want.
The 3640 with an analog FXO is okay to act as a gateway to the PSTN. The
same router with FXS VIC ALSO will allow you to connect and originate
calls internally. However, you state you want to place VOIP phones on
the network behind the 3640. What VOIP phones would those be? If you
mean 79XX series IP Telephones from Cisco, you also need a CallManager
Server to control those phones.
As far as the dialing rules in this network, it is up to you what you use
to direct calls out to the world. Using 9 to classify all telephone
numbers that follow it as being sent to the PSTN is a convention not a
rule. The only real rule is that you have to give the system the means to
route a call based on what the User dials. AND, if you are handing the
call off to the PSTN or any other telephone switch, you have to give that
switch the call routing information  (telephone number) that it needs to
route the call.
In coming calls are a whole different topic. Try reading one of the many
VoX books that are now available.
Hope this helps,
Bruce

Andrew Dorsett wrote:

  Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my question.  I
  want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the FXO's.
  Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN to
  the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP phones
over
  the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to dial
  an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
  any special steps.
  
  Thanks,
  Andrew
  
  On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:

Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a 3640
with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP phones
on
a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO and have
found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO

  configuration.

However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the
outside
world.  I basically need one that would say all 4 digit dialed calls are
VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers.  And
another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls from
the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and I want
it
as line 1 on my phones, and
555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to map the
inbound calls to a VoIP extension.

555-1221 -- | ||  | ||
|  3640   ||SWITCH|-|IP Phone|
555-1234 -- | ||  | ||

My primary info source has been:

 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#ITS3660

Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-20 Thread Andrew Dorsett
Bruce -
Actually I'm not missing any pieces.  Check out this link on the CCO to
see exactly what I'm trying to accomplish:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#background

The router (3640,etc) utilizes the ITS feature set to act as the call
manager for the network and create a small IP Key system without a few of
the call manager features that I don't need in this case.  And yes I want
to use the 79xx phones behind the switch that I didn't mention is behind the
router.  I will use the FXO
ports on the router to plug the incoming lines into.  The page shows
everything from how to do hold music to how to configure the phones XML
interface.  However it leaves out the PSTN setup section which is where
I'm stuck at.  I think I can do a session target to the ephone-dn but I'm
not sure of the syntax.

Configuring the PSTN Connection on the Cisco ITS Router
Assuming that the ITS router has voice interface cards, you will now want
to configure those cards so that calls can be placed to and from the IP
phones.  This is not significantly different than other voice connections
on a router.  You can think of the ephones with the numbers that were
assigned to the ephone-dn's as FXS ports on the routers.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Bruce Enders wrote:

 Andrew,
 You are asking how to set something up without all the pieces necessary
 to make it work. And you are describing developing a dialplan that does
 not adhere to common conventions. That part is okay, you can define how
 you route calls in-to and out-of your own voice network pretty much any
 way you want.
 The 3640 with an analog FXO is okay to act as a gateway to the PSTN. The
 same router with FXS VIC ALSO will allow you to connect and originate
 calls internally. However, you state you want to place VOIP phones on
 the network behind the 3640. What VOIP phones would those be? If you
 mean 79XX series IP Telephones from Cisco, you also need a CallManager
 Server to control those phones.
 As far as the dialing rules in this network, it is up to you what you use
 to direct calls out to the world. Using 9 to classify all telephone
 numbers that follow it as being sent to the PSTN is a convention not a
 rule. The only real rule is that you have to give the system the means to
 route a call based on what the User dials. AND, if you are handing the
 call off to the PSTN or any other telephone switch, you have to give that
 switch the call routing information  (telephone number) that it needs to
 route the call.
 In coming calls are a whole different topic. Try reading one of the many
 VoX books that are now available.
 Hope this helps,
 Bruce

 Andrew Dorsett wrote:

   Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my question. 
I
   want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the FXO's.
   Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN to
   the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP phones
 over
   the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to dial
   an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
   any special steps.

   Thanks,
   Andrew

   On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:

 Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a 3640
 with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP phones
 on
 a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO and
have
 found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO

   configuration.

 However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the
 outside
 world.  I basically need one that would say all 4 digit dialed calls
are
 VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers.  And
 another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls from
 the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and I
want
 it
 as line 1 on my phones, and
 555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to map
the
 inbound calls to a VoIP extension.

 555-1221 -- | ||  | ||
 |  3640   ||SWITCH|-|IP Phone|
 555-1234 -- | ||  | ||

 My primary info source has been:



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#ITS3660

 Thanks,
 Andrew
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 all
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RE: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-20 Thread Mark W. Odette II
Andrew-

Without having done this, I could be wrong, but from your excerpt You
can think of the ephones with the numbers that were assigned to the
ephone-dn's as FXS ports on the routers., I would say then that all you
have to do is create your dial-plan, and then define VOIP Dial-peers
with the destination target being the IP address of the IP Phones.  If
it is that simple, then you will up and running in a heartbeat.

Be sure and look at cisco's router to router (FXS to FXS) dial-peer
samples to get an idea of your syntax.  You may have to play around with
voice quality settings though.

Good luck

Mark (Aspiring AVVID Engineer/Architect) :)
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From: Andrew Dorsett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

Bruce -
Actually I'm not missing any pieces.  Check out this link on the CCO to
see exactly what I'm trying to accomplish:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_e
xample09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#background

The router (3640,etc) utilizes the ITS feature set to act as the call
manager for the network and create a small IP Key system without a few
of
the call manager features that I don't need in this case.  And yes I
want
to use the 79xx phones behind the switch that I didn't mention is behind
the
router.  I will use the FXO
ports on the router to plug the incoming lines into.  The page shows
everything from how to do hold music to how to configure the phones XML
interface.  However it leaves out the PSTN setup section which is where
I'm stuck at.  I think I can do a session target to the ephone-dn but
I'm
not sure of the syntax.

Configuring the PSTN Connection on the Cisco ITS Router
Assuming that the ITS router has voice interface cards, you will now
want
to configure those cards so that calls can be placed to and from the IP
phones.  This is not significantly different than other voice
connections
on a router.  You can think of the ephones with the numbers that were
assigned to the ephone-dn's as FXS ports on the routers.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Bruce Enders wrote:

 Andrew,
 You are asking how to set something up without all the pieces
necessary
 to make it work. And you are describing developing a dialplan that
does
 not adhere to common conventions. That part is okay, you can define
how
 you route calls in-to and out-of your own voice network pretty much
any
 way you want.
 The 3640 with an analog FXO is okay to act as a gateway to the PSTN.
The
 same router with FXS VIC ALSO will allow you to connect and originate
 calls internally. However, you state you want to place VOIP phones
on
 the network behind the 3640. What VOIP phones would those be? If you
 mean 79XX series IP Telephones from Cisco, you also need a CallManager
 Server to control those phones.
 As far as the dialing rules in this network, it is up to you what you
use
 to direct calls out to the world. Using 9 to classify all telephone
 numbers that follow it as being sent to the PSTN is a convention not a
 rule. The only real rule is that you have to give the system the means
to
 route a call based on what the User dials. AND, if you are handing the
 call off to the PSTN or any other telephone switch, you have to give
that
 switch the call routing information  (telephone number) that it needs
to
 route the call.
 In coming calls are a whole different topic. Try reading one of the
many
 VoX books that are now available.
 Hope this helps,
 Bruce

 Andrew Dorsett wrote:

   Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my
question. 
I
   want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the
FXO's.
   Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN
to
   the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP
phones
 over
   the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to
dial
   an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
   any special steps.

   Thanks,
   Andrew

   On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:

 Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a
3640
 with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP
phones
 on
 a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO
and
have
 found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO

   configuration.

 However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the
 outside
 world.  I basically need one that would say all 4 digit dialed
calls
are
 VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers.
And
 another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls
from
 the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and
I
want
 it
 as line 1 on my phones, and
 555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to
map
the
 inbound calls to a VoIP extension.

 555

VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-19 Thread Andrew Dorsett
Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my question.  I
want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the FXO's.
Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN to
the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP phones over
the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to dial
an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
any special steps.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:

 Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a 3640
 with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP phones on
 a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO and have
 found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO
configuration.
 However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the outside
 world.  I basically need one that would say all 4 digit dialed calls are
 VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers.  And
 another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls from
 the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and I want it
 as line 1 on my phones, and
 555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to map the
 inbound calls to a VoIP extension.

 555-1221 -- | ||  | ||
 |  3640   ||SWITCH|-|IP Phone|
 555-1234 -- | ||  | ||

 My primary info source has been:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#ITS3660

 Thanks,
 Andrew
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RE: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-19 Thread Juan Blanco
Andrew
The following links will explain in full details how to accomplish what you
want
Juan Blanco

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/voice
_c/vcprt1/

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/mult
i_c/mcprt1/

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/9E0-423.html#examdesc



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Subject: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]


Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my question.  I
want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the FXO's.
Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN to
the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP phones
over
the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to dial
an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
any special steps.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:

 Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a 3640
 with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP phones on
 a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO and have
 found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO
configuration.
 However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the outside
 world.  I basically need one that would say all 4 digit dialed calls are
 VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers.  And
 another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls from
 the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and I want
it
 as line 1 on my phones, and
 555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to map the
 inbound calls to a VoIP extension.

 555-1221 -- | ||  | ||
 |  3640   ||SWITCH|-|IP Phone|
 555-1234 -- | ||  | ||

 My primary info source has been:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_examp
le09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#ITS3660

 Thanks,
 Andrew
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RE: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-19 Thread Andrew Dorsett
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Juan Blanco wrote:

 Andrew
 The following links will explain in full details how to accomplish what you
 want

Thanks, BUT...I had already found all of those URL's.  They show how to
create a dial plan to send the data across a cloud but they never show
how to do it all in one device.  I want to use one router as my call
gateway for the entire network (no other routers because the voice
gateway is internal).  The URL that I sent out was a great
resource and shows it can be done, but it LACKS horribly in the fact that
it leaves out the crucial part of the configuration, the dial plan
mapping.

My confusion comes over the part where you do a session target for the
incoming PSTN to VoIP calls.  Do you point the session target to
localhost if you are only using one router?

Thanks,
Andrew
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