Voice on the Network
Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on the Network
Kevin, I agree totally we have been battling VOIP troubles for a while and almost from the outset Cisco's advise was upgrade. However, the upgrades are usually to the ED version on IOSBut in their defense since they are new to Voice arena they are constantly making changes, so we may not see a GD series for a while...but we are currently running 12.1.2T ED have had no problemsin a mixed environment of IP, IPX, and DLSWgood luck! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Voice on the Network Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on the Network
What to say ! If you want to use the GD then you have to forget the Voice function ! You can try the 12.1 ED but I want feel well with it. You have to wait until the 13 to get Voice on the GD IOS. Regards - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:35 PM Subject: Voice on the Network Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on the Network
I hear ya.. but the Chief Architect won't use anything but GD on the backbone. But you still got to wonder how Cisco can talk about QoS when some enhancements only show up in the T series IOS. What specifically went "bump" for us is that we wanted to use the "jitter" measurements (as well as others) for the rtr process - but only in T you say! - pity. I guess we won't be doing VoIP for awhile. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Elias Aggelidis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Voice on the Network What to say ! If you want to use the GD then you have to forget the Voice function ! You can try the 12.1 ED but I want feel well with it. You have to wait until the 13 to get Voice on the GD IOS. Regards _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice on the Network
Please excuse my ignorance, but being new to CCNP (just started) I was wondering what the difference is between IOS ED and IOS GD versions. Is one beta, other production? Thanx Dyland Kevin, I agree totally we have been battling VOIP troubles for a while and almost from the outset Cisco's advise was upgrade. However, the upgrades are usually to the ED version on IOSBut in their defense since they are new to Voice arena they are constantly making changes, so we may not see a GD series for a while...but we are currently running 12.1.2T ED have had no problemsin a mixed environment of IP, IPX, and DLSWgood luck! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Voice on the Network Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on the Network
Hey Kevin, At my job we recently implemented VoIP within the existing network infrastructure and I must admit that it seems to run flawlessly. It's been running so well I can't remember the exact IOS image on the 3640 used to tie into the Lucent G3 PBX switch. What we did was basically rebuilt all of our DHCP zones and built a default zone and binded it to the tftp service on the gateway(MCS 7835) so the IP phones could download their configuration. Now every segment on our lan that is tied into the VoIP through our existing various 4006 boxes. When I get in tomorrow I'll look into it and see what version of the IOS is on that router. Apart from that I got into a discussion with some "Foundry" folks over the recent lack of Quality Assurance(QA) provided by cisco lately. I remember a time when you got products from cisco and it plugged and played. Most recently we've been receiving items that are defective. Not to mention that in the last month alone we've changed IOS images on our backbone numerous times due to various bugs in the IOS code. At one time we even worked with cisco's crash recovery and router teams to eliminate problems we had identified in the IOS images we used. So, Kevin as you can see this is widely spread and not just IOS problem related to Voice and AVVID... That Foundry stuff sure is fast. I'm compiling some stats on the BigIrons and ServerIrons we just installed.. I'll post them in a couple of days.. Nigel.. - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Voice on the Network Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on the Network
ED = Early Deployment Unlike main Cisco IOS releases, Cisco IOS ED releases are vehicles that bring new development to the marketplace. Each maintenance revision of an ED release includes not only bug fixes, but also a set of new features, new platform support, and general enhancements to protocols and the Cisco IOS infrastructure. Every one to two years, the features and platforms of the ED releases are ported to the next main Cisco IOS release. GD = General Deployment LD = Limited Deployment everything you wanted to know about IOS naming conventions: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/1.html Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Dyland Desmarais" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 22:42 Subject: RE: Voice on the Network Please excuse my ignorance, but being new to CCNP (just started) I was wondering what the difference is between IOS ED and IOS GD versions. Is one beta, other production? Thanx Dyland -- -- Kevin, I agree totally we have been battling VOIP troubles for a while and almost from the outset Cisco's advise was upgrade. However, the upgrades are usually to the ED version on IOSBut in their defense since they are new to Voice arena they are constantly making changes, so we may not see a GD series for a while...but we are currently running 12.1.2T ED have had no problemsin a mixed environment of IP, IPX, and DLSWgood luck! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Voice on the Network Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
