bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Netguy

> Hello all you happy people. 
> Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> flapping. 
> i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> redistributing back into ospf. 
> what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> thing
> that lots of people had problems with. 
> here's the key configs:
> interface BRI0/0
>  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
>  encapsulation ppp
>  ip ospf demand-circuit
>  dialer idle-timeout 15
>  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
>  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
>  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
>  isdn spid1 9258667005
>  isdn spid2 9258667006
>  ppp authentication chap
>  ppp chap hostname CCIE
>  ppp multilink
> 
> 
> router ospf 1
>  log-adjacency-changes
>  area 0 authentication message-digest
>  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
>  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
>  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> stuff
>  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
>  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
>  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
>  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
>  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
>  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> route-map stuff deny 5
>  match ip address 15
> !
> route-map stuff permit 10
>  set tag 4
> 
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Jay Chandradas

1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP

2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )

Jay

when u r redistributing into
- Original Message -
From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> > Hello all you happy people.
> > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > flapping.
> > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > redistributing back into ospf.
> > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > thing
> > that lots of people had problems with.
> > here's the key configs:
> > interface BRI0/0
> >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> >  encapsulation ppp
> >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> >  dialer-group 1
> >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> >  ppp authentication chap
> >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> >  ppp multilink
> >
> >
> > router ospf 1
> >  log-adjacency-changes
> >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > stuff
> >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > route-map stuff deny 5
> >  match ip address 15
> > !
> > route-map stuff permit 10
> >  set tag 4
> >
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Bob Boone

Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.

- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
>
> 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
> IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
>
> Jay
>
> when u r redistributing into
> - Original Message -
> From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > flapping.
> > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > thing
> > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > here's the key configs:
> > > interface BRI0/0
> > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > >  dialer-group 1
> > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > >  ppp authentication chap
> > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > >  ppp multilink
> > >
> > >
> > > router ospf 1
> > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > stuff
> > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > >  match ip address 15
> > > !
> > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > >  set tag 4
> > >
> > > __
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-16 Thread Bob Boone

did that, still doesn't work. i'm tagging on going out to IGRP and then
blocking that tag from coming back into OSPF. still bri is flapping. what
the hell? i thought we worked this problem out in groupstudy!
HELP!
- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
>
> 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
> IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
>
> Jay
>
> when u r redistributing into
> - Original Message -
> From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > flapping.
> > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > thing
> > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > here's the key configs:
> > > interface BRI0/0
> > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > >  dialer-group 1
> > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > >  ppp authentication chap
> > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > >  ppp multilink
> > >
> > >
> > > router ospf 1
> > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > stuff
> > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > >  match ip address 15
> > > !
> > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > >  set tag 4
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
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> >
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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Chris Larson

Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bob Boone
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.

- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
>
> 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
> IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
>
> Jay
>
> when u r redistributing into
> - Original Message -
> From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > flapping.
> > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > thing
> > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > here's the key configs:
> > > interface BRI0/0
> > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > >  dialer-group 1
> > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > >  ppp authentication chap
> > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > >  ppp multilink
> > >
> > >
> > > router ospf 1
> > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > stuff
> > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > >  match ip address 15
> > > !
> > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > >  set tag 4
> > >
> > > __
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> >
> >
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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Jay Chandradas



I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

my 0.02

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bob Boone
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> statement and then explisit deny all.
> still not working.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> >
> > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
the
> > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > when u r redistributing into
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > flapping.
> > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > thing
> > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > >  ppp multilink
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > router ospf 1
> > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > stuff
> > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > !
> > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > >  set tag 4
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
> > >
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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Leah Lynch

I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.

Leah

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jay Chandradas
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution




I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

my 0.02

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bob Boone
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> statement and then explisit deny all.
> still not working.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> >
> > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
the
> > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > when u r redistributing into
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > flapping.
> > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > thing
> > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > >  ppp multilink
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > router ospf 1
> > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > stuff
> > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > !
> > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > >  set tag 4
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
&g

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Patrick Murphy

Also check the BRI interface and see if you see IPCDP, it should disapper
when you no cdp en!

Patrick

- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Larson'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.
>
> Leah
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jay Chandradas
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
> permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
> debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.
>
> my 0.02
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Bob Boone
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > still not working.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> > >
> > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
> the
> > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > when u r redistributing into
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > > flapping.
> > > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > > thing
> > > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > > >  ppp multilink
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 1
> > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> &g

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Ya Wen

Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15 associated with the route-map
stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address under OSPF.

-Ya

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Patrick Murphy
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson'; 'Bob Boone';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Also check the BRI interface and see if you see IPCDP, it should disapper
when you no cdp en!

Patrick

- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Larson'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.
>
> Leah
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jay Chandradas
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
> permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
> debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.
>
> my 0.02
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Bob Boone
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > still not working.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> > >
> > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
> the
> > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > when u r redistributing into
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > > flapping.
> > > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > > thing
> > > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > > >  dialer-group 1
> >

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Mick Vollmer

I had this problem and moved the ip ospf demand-circuit statement to the
other router and the problem went away.  I was using 11.2 code on one end
and 12.something on the other.

Mick


- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Larson'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.
>
> Leah
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jay Chandradas
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
> permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
> debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.
>
> my 0.02
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Bob Boone
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > still not working.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> > >
> > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
> the
> > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > when u r redistributing into
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > > flapping.
> > > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > > thing
> > > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > > >  ppp multilink
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 1
> > > > >  log

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread perez claude-vincent

Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.

Did I miss something? :-(



--- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
> associated with the route-map
> stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
> under OSPF.
> 
> -Ya
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Murphy
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
> 'Bob Boone';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> 
> 
> Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
> IPCDP, it should disapper
> when you no cdp en!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
> Larson'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> 
> 
> > I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
> for efficiency.
> >
> > Leah
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Jay Chandradas
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> > To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
> interesting traffic is
> > permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
> line up. When u do a
> > debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
> 2.
> >
> > my 0.02
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay
> Chandradas"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> > > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Bob Boone
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
> way it is done now, it
> > > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
> access-list 15 it has one
> > > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > > still not working.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
> router IGRP
> > > >
> > > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
> into OSPG .. allow only
> > the
> > > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
> with is running IGRP )
> > > >
> > > > Jay
> > > >
> > > > when u r redistributing into
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual
> redistribution and bri
> > > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit.
> it keeps
> > > > > > flapping.
> > > > > > i followed someone&#

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread Chris Larson

It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3 traffic
only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface permitting
all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in. That
may help you to see what is bringing the line up.

-Original Message-
From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.

Did I miss something? :-(



--- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
> associated with the route-map
> stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
> under OSPF.
>
> -Ya
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Murphy
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
> 'Bob Boone';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
>
>
> Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
> IPCDP, it should disapper
> when you no cdp en!
>
> Patrick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
> Larson'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
>
>
> > I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
> for efficiency.
> >
> > Leah
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Jay Chandradas
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> > To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
> interesting traffic is
> > permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
> line up. When u do a
> > debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
> 2.
> >
> > my 0.02
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay
> Chandradas"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> > > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Bob Boone
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
> way it is done now, it
> > > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
> access-list 15 it has one
> > > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > > still not working.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under
> router IGRP
> > > >
> > > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing
> into OSPG .. allow only
> > the
> > > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted
> with is running IGRP )
> > > >
> > > > J

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread Alan Basinger

CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web traffic
CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
bandwidth.
I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never had
and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the time.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chris Larson
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3 traffic
only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface permitting
all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in. That
may help you to see what is bringing the line up.

-Original Message-
From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.

Did I miss something? :-(



--- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
> associated with the route-map
> stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
> under OSPF.
>
> -Ya
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Murphy
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
> 'Bob Boone';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
>
>
> Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
> IPCDP, it should disapper
> when you no cdp en!
>
> Patrick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
> Larson'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
>
>
> > I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
> for efficiency.
> >
> > Leah
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Jay Chandradas
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> > To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
> interesting traffic is
> > permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
> line up. When u do a
> > debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
> 2.
> >
> > my 0.02
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay
> Chandradas"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> > > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Bob Boone
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
> way it is done now, it
> > > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
> access-list 15 it has one
> > > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > > still not working.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-24 Thread James

it shouldn't. its layer two, and if you put dialer in debug you see that it
is shown as uninteresting traffic.
- Original Message -
From: "perez claude-vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ya Wen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Patrick Murphy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jay
Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Larson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
> up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
> before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.
>
> Did I miss something? :-(
>
>
>
> --- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
> > associated with the route-map
> > stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
> > under OSPF.
> >
> > -Ya
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Patrick Murphy
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
> > 'Bob Boone';
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> >
> >
> > Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
> > IPCDP, it should disapper
> > when you no cdp en!
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
> > Larson'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> >
> >
> > > I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
> > for efficiency.
> > >
> > > Leah
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Jay Chandradas
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> > > To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
> > interesting traffic is
> > > permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
> > line up. When u do a
> > > debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
> > 2.
> > >
> > > my 0.02
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay
> > Chandradas"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> > > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > Bob Boone
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > > > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> > cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the
> > way it is done now, it
> > > > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the
> > access-list 15 it has one
> > > > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > > > still not working.
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-25 Thread Jerry Hutcheson

James,

On your access list 15 try changing the mask to .255 instead of .3, even though you 
are using a 30 bit mask at the interface. This has worked for me before.

jer

At 09:59 AM 3/24/2001 -0800, James wrote:
>it shouldn't. its layer two, and if you put dialer in debug you see that it
>is shown as uninteresting traffic.
>- Original Message -
>From: "perez claude-vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Ya Wen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Patrick Murphy"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jay
>Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Larson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>"'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:22 AM
>Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>> Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
>> up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
>> before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.
>>
>> Did I miss something? :-(
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
>> > associated with the route-map
>> > stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
>> > under OSPF.
>> >
>> > -Ya
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> > Patrick Murphy
>> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
>> > To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
>> > 'Bob Boone';
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
>> > redistribution
>> >
>> >
>> > Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
>> > IPCDP, it should disapper
>> > when you no cdp en!
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
>> > Larson'"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
>> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
>> > redistribution
>> >
>> >
>> > > I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
>> > for efficiency.
>> > >
>> > > Leah
>> > >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> > > Jay Chandradas
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
>> > > To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
>> > redistribution
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
>> > interesting traffic is
>> > > permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
>> > line up. When u do a
>> > > debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
>> > 2.
>> > >
>> > > my 0.02
>> > >
>> > > - Original Message -
>> > > From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay
>> > Chandradas"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
>> > redistribution
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> > > > Bob Boone
>> > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
>> > > > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
>> > cirquit/igrp redistribution
>> > > >
>> > > >
>

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chris Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; perez claude-vincent
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Patrick
Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Leah Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Jay
Chandradas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bob Boone' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
> CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
> bandwidth.
> I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
> and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.
>
> Alan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chris Larson
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
> To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
> Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
> makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
> only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitting
> all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
> accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
That
> may help you to see what is bringing the line up.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
> Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
> up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
> before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.
>
> Did I miss something? :-(
>
>
>
> --- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
> > associated with the route-map
> > stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
> > under OSPF.
> >
> > -Ya
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Patrick Murphy
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
> > 'Bob Boone';
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> >
> >
> > Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
> > IPCDP, it should disapper
> > when you no cdp en!
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
> > Larson'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> >
> >
> > > I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines
> > for efficiency.
> > >
> > > Leah
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Jay Chandradas
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> > > To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur
> > interesting traffic is
> > > permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the
> > line up. When u do a
> > > debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer
> > 2.
> > >
> > > my 0.02
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Bob Bo

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread George Zhang

I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:

1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the interfaces
between the two related routers;

2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);

3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF; 

3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.

4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and verify 
that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it should go 
down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN line 
   keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on your other 
router
protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN line after
each change as above.

5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing protocols, turn 
on your 
   redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.  

If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing your ISDN
line to stay up.

Hope it helps.

George Zhang


>>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/01 03:33PM >>>
It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
traffic.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chris Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; perez claude-vincent
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Patrick
Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Leah Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Jay
Chandradas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bob Boone' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
traffic
> CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
> bandwidth.
> I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
had
> and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
time.
>
> Alan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chris Larson
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
> To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
> Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It
> makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
traffic
> only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
permitting
> all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
> accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
That
> may help you to see what is bringing the line up.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: perez claude-vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris
> Larson'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> Can somebody tell me how come CDP may bring the line
> up? As you know, it works only in layer 2 as said
> before. Your dialer-list works at layer 3 & 4 only.
>
> Did I miss something? :-(
>
>
>
> --- Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15
> > associated with the route-map
> > stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address
> > under OSPF.
> >
> > -Ya
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Patrick Murphy
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Chris Larson';
> > 'Bob Boone';
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> > redistribution
> >
> >
> > Also check the BRI interface and see if you see
> > IPCDP, it should disapper
> > when you no cdp en!
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
> > Larson'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EM

Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Mask Of Zorro

Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then, 
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes 
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the 
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees 
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology 
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out 
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges. 
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess 
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
>From: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
>
>I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
>
>1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the 
>interfaces
> between the two related routers;
>
>2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
>
>3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
>
>3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
>
>4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and 
>verify
> that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it 
>should go
> down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN 
>line
>keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on 
>your other router
> protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN 
>line after
> each change as above.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing 
>protocols, turn on your
>redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
>
>If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing 
>your ISDN
>line to stay up.
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>George Zhang
>
>
> >>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/01 03:33PM >>>
>It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
>traffic.
>Don
>- Original Message -
>From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Chris Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; perez claude-vincent
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Patrick
>Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Leah Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Jay
>Chandradas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bob Boone' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
>Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
>traffic
> > CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
> > bandwidth.
> > I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
>had
> > and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
>time.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Chris Larson
> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
> > To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
> > Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. 
>It
> > makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3
>traffic
> > only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface
>permitting
> > all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get
> > accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in.
>That
> > may help you to see what is bringing the line up.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Fr

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Alan Basinger

Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

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From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
>From: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
>
>I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
>
>1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
>interfaces
> between the two related routers;
>
>2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
>
>3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
>
>3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
>
>4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
>verify
> that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
>should go
> down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
>line
>keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
>your other router
> protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
>line after
> each change as above.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
>protocols, turn on your
>redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
>
>If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
>your ISDN
>line to stay up.
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>George Zhang
>
>
> >>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/01 03:33PM >>>
>It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
>traffic.
>Don
>- Original Message -
>From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Chris Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; perez claude-vincent
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Patrick
>Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Leah Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Jay
>Chandradas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bob Boone' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
>Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
>traffic
> > CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
> > bandwidth.
> > I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
>had
> > and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
>time.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Chris Larson
> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM
> > To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay
> > Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links 

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread Andrew Larkins


what about blocking the 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 as interesting traffic. I do
that by default so that updates do not bring up the link unnecessarily
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From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2001 22:31
To: Mask Of Zorro; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
>From: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
>
>I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
>
>1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
>interfaces
> between the two related routers;
>
>2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
>
>3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
>
>3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
>
>4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
>verify
> that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
>should go
> down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
>line
>keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
>your other router
> protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
>line after
> each change as above.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
>protocols, turn on your
>redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
>
>If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
>your ISDN
>line to stay up.
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>George Zhang
>
>
> >>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/01 03:33PM >>>
>It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
>traffic.
>Don
>- Original Message -
>From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Chris Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; perez claude-vincent
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Patrick
>Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Leah Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Jay
>Chandradas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bob Boone' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
>Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
>traffic
> > CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
> > bandwidth.
> > I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never
>had
> > and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the
>time.
> >
> 

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-28 Thread Andrew Larkins

the whole idea for DDR is that only interesting traffic will bring up the
link. Once the link is active, then by all means, the routing protocols can
send hello messages. This is for the case where DDR is used for backup
purposes. You will to weigh up the benfits vs costs.



-Original Message-
From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 28 March 2001 15:44
To: Andrew Larkins
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


If you run the bri as demand circuit the only thing that should bring up the
line is topology changes. You would want them to bring up the line so you
have a proper view of the network right? I would adjust the timers to have
the bri go down after 60 or even 30 seconds of in-activity instead of 2
minutes and filter out the /32's so it does not flap and only comes up if
there is a topology change.
Would filtering the multicast networks 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 keep the line
from coming up for any topology change?

Alan

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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:38 AM
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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution



what about blocking the 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 as interesting traffic. I do
that by default so that updates do not bring up the link unnecessarily
-Original Message-
From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2001 22:31
To: Mask Of Zorro; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Redistribution brings it up.

What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.

Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...

There are ways to stop it.

Z
>From: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
>
>I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
>
>1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
>interfaces
> between the two related routers;
>
>2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
>
>3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
>
>3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
>
>4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
>verify
> that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
>should go
> down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
>line
>keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
>your other router
> protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
>line after
> each change as above.
>
>5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
>protocols, turn on your
>redistri

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-28 Thread Jerry Toomey

Here's what I did.  Changed the access-list to deny and changed the
wildcards from 3 to 255 since IGRP redistributes the classful version of
173.5.8.x network.  See below:

interface BRI0/0
 ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 ...

router ospf 1
 redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map stuff
 network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3

access-list 15 deny 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 15 permit any

route-map stuff deny 5
 match ip address 15
!
route-map stuff permit 10
!


Jerry "Been there.  Done that" Toomey




--- Andrew Larkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> what about blocking the 224.0.0.6 and 224.0.0.5 as interesting traffic.
> I do
> that by default so that updates do not bring up the link unnecessarily
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Basinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27 March 2001 22:31
> To: Mask Of Zorro; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> 
> 
> Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and
> your
> LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.
> 
> Alan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> 
> 
> Redistribution brings it up.
> 
> What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency.
> Then,
> since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF
> routes
> associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then,
> the
> layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting
> traffic.
> 
> Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF
> sees
> it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
> change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's
> out
> announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF
> converges.
> Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and
> guess
> what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...
> 
> There are ways to stop it.
> 
> Z
> >From: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
> >
> >I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
> >
> >1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides
> the
> >interfaces
> > between the two related routers;
> >
> >2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
> >
> >3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
> >
> >3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
> >
> >4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
> >verify
> > that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but
> it
> >should go
> > down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
> >line
> >keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the
> problem.
> >
> >5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces,
> turn on
> >your other router
> > protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the
> IDN
> >line after
> > each change as above.
> >
> >5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
> >protocols, turn on your
> >redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
> >
> >If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is
> causing
> >your ISDN
> >line to stay up.
> >
> >Hope it helps.
> >
> >George Zhang
> >

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-04-03 Thread Connary, Julie Ann

an easier way to find the problem is to debug ospf flooding and/or lsa 
generation. Then you do not
have to go through the pain of waiting for the link to be quiet for each 
interface as you bring it up.

Julie Ann

At 02:31 PM 3/27/2001 -0600, Alan Basinger wrote:
>Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your
>LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.
>
>Alan
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
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>Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>Redistribution brings it up.
>
>What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then,
>since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes
>associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the
>layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic.
>
>Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees
>it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology
>change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out
>announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges.
>Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess
>what?  That's right! The whole thing starts again...
>
>There are ways to stop it.
>
>Z
> >From: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "George Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
> >
> >I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here is how I fixed it:
> >
> >1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all other interfaces besides the
> >interfaces
> > between the two related routers;
> >
> >2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones);
> >
> >3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
> >
> >3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It should be quiet now.
> >
> >4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and
> >verify
> > that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should might come up briefly but it
> >should go
> > down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut.  If the ISDN
> >line
> >keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem.
> >
> >5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on
> >your other router
> > protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.  Again, verify the IDN
> >line after
> > each change as above.
> >
> >5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing
> >protocols, turn on your
> >redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN line along the way.
> >
> >If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing
> >your ISDN
> >line to stay up.
> >
> >Hope it helps.
> >
> >George Zhang
> >
> >
> > >>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/01 03:33PM >>>
> >It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting
> >traffic.
> >Don
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Chris Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; perez claude-vincent
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ya Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Patrick
> >Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Leah Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Jay
> >Chandradas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bob Boone' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM
> >Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web
> >traffic
> > > CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of
> > > bandwidth.
> > &g

RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-04-05 Thread perez claude-vincent

Thanks to you all,

--- "Connary, Julie Ann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> an easier way to find the problem is to debug ospf
> flooding and/or lsa 
> generation. Then you do not
> have to go through the pain of waiting for the link
> to be quiet for each 
> interface as you bring it up.
> 
> Julie Ann
> 
> At 02:31 PM 3/27/2001 -0600, Alan Basinger wrote:
> >Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from
> redistribution into IGRP and your
> >LSA's should not continue to bring the link up.
> >
> >Alan
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp
> redistribution
> >
> >
> >Redistribution brings it up.
> >
> >What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF
> forms an adjacency. Then,
> >since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are
> squelched and OSPF routes
> >associated with those LSA's do not age out of the
> routing table. Then, the
> >layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is
> no interesting traffic.
> >
> >Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are
> redistributing into OSPF sees
> >it's link drop, and changes its tables in
> accordance with the topology
> >change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF,
> and OSPF floods LSA's out
> >announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the
> link while OSPF converges.
> >Then, after a while, things are stable again, and
> the link drops - and guess
> >what?  That's right! The whole thing starts
> again...
> >
> >There are ways to stop it.
> >
> >Z
> > >From: "George Zhang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "George Zhang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand
> cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600
> > >
> > >I also had the same problem a few days ago.  Here
> is how I fixed it:
> > >
> > >1. Isolate the problem by shutting  down all
> other interfaces besides the
> > >interfaces
> > > between the two related routers;
> > >
> > >2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF
> ones);
> > >
> > >3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF;
> > >
> > >3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit.  It
> should be quiet now.
> > >
> > >4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut
> down one by one and
> > >verify
> > > that the ISDN demand circuit.  It should
> might come up briefly but it
> > >should go
> > > down and keep quiet after some interfaces
> are unshut.  If the ISDN
> > >line
> > >keep dialing, you should know which interface
> is causing the problem.
> > >
> > >5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you
> unshut all interfaces, turn on
> > >your other router
> > > protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one.
>  Again, verify the IDN
> > >line after
> > > each change as above.
> > >
> > >5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you
> enable all other routing
> > >protocols, turn on your
> > >redistribution one by one.  Again verify ISDN
> line along the way.
> > >
> > >If you follow these steps, you should be able to
> pin down what is causing
> > >your ISDN
> > >line to stay up.
> > >
> > >Hope it helps.
> > >
> > >George Zhang
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> "Donald B Johnson Jr"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/01 03:33PM >>>
> > >It may keep the connection open though even after
> there is no intresting
> > >traffic.
> > >Don
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Alan Basinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
&g

Re[2]: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-27 Thread xander

Hello All,

Nobody is right!

When you redistribute from any kind of protocols into OSPF you've got
E2 (or E1) _EXTERNAL_ OSPF route. D-O-D suppresses only HELLOs and
Type 1-2-3/4 LSAs, but EXTERNAL LSA was not suppresed, so if you see
at the 'show dialer' output with '224.0.0.6' as destination - you will
understand that OSPF causes ISDN to dial :-)))

So... You've known the cause of dialing. What can we do with it?

You can suppress ospf database on that router(s) to filter external LSAs,
or you can simple set up 'ospf transfer-interval' or better decrease
timers for redistributed routing process or ... or... Up to you!

BB> did that, still doesn't work. i'm tagging on going out to IGRP and then
BB> blocking that tag from coming back into OSPF. still bri is flapping. what
BB> the hell? i thought we worked this problem out in groupstudy!
BB> HELP!

-- 
 WBW, xander  
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 CCNA, CCNP+VoiceAccess, CCIE very soon :-)

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