remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that would let me
dial into a router via the AUX port?


Ryan




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Dom
Have a look at -

http://www.b2net.co.uk/multitech/multitech_zdx_rackmount_modem_shelf.htm


Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
SysDom Technologies


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Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that would let me
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Ryan




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.

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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote: 

 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that would let me 
 dial into a router via the AUX port? 

Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a greatone that 
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem access 
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco adapters and 
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and answer it. 

Andrew 
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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Andrew Dorsett
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote:

 I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.

Then just pick up an old USR/3Com Sportster or Courier external modem and
the cables and you've got it.

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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Daniel Cotts
For a single router use a modem. For many routers/switches/servers consider
a terminal server. That could be a 2509 router. Use a modem to connect to
the 2509 and from the 2509 connect to the various boxes - usually their
console port in this case.
There are other manufacturers of terminal server type boxes. WTI Western
Telematic Inc?? Check the back pages of many trade magazines.

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 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that 
 would let me
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 Ryan




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Paul Forbes
Depending on your routing protocol, another way is to have the router
dial out under a dialer watch scenario, but advertise only its loopback
address out the dialer interface (e.g. distribute-list out 
), so that the device is reachable but doesn't route
traffic for the network to which it is attached. This also makes the
device more secure (i.e. it never takes an incoming call).

Good luck.

Paul Forbes
Network Engineer
Trimble

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I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.

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From: Andrew Dorsett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote: 

 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that
would let me 
 dial into a router via the AUX port? 

Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a
greatone that 
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem
access 
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco
adapters and 
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and
answer it. 

Andrew 
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ICQ: 2895251 
Cisco Certified Network Associate 

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to make all
of them yourself.




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Nathan
What you can use is what's called a OOB switch.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/iad/ps492/index.html

I think that's what you might be looking for.

-Nate

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I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.

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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote: 

 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that
would let me 
 dial into a router via the AUX port? 

Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a
greatone that 
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem
access 
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco
adapters and 
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and
answer it. 

Andrew 
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ICQ: 2895251 
Cisco Certified Network Associate 

Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough
to make all of them yourself.




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Phil Lorenz
Dial connection to the AUX via a modem or obtain a Zero (64, 128, etc.,
etc.) CIR DLCI into the site, it would probably cost as much or less
than a POTS connection.

My old employer, due to a last minute requirement, installed a real
smooth thing for a customer a couple of years back.

We used dial activated power supplies (call and after a certain set of
prompts enter a code) to power AUX connected secure modems.  This
allowed for a controlled backdoor into the network for management
(a.k.a. troubleshooting).

All the best!
Phil
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and best know for Such and Such

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I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.

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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote: 

 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that
would let me 
 dial into a router via the AUX port? 

Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a
greatone that 
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem
access 
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco
adapters and 
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and
answer it. 

Andrew 
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ICQ: 2895251 
Cisco Certified Network Associate 

Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough
to make all
of them yourself.




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Re: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Ryan Finnesey
(AS2509-RJ-CH) we would be looking at $1600 each a bit high to manage one
router but a nice setup if I have more then one.  We are looking at offering
a manageed router service for some ISP's in the states.



Ryan
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What you can use is what's called a OOB switch.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/iad/ps492/index.html
I think that's what you might be looking for.
-Nate
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I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that
would let me
 dial into a router via the AUX port?
Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a
greatone that
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem
access
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco
adapters and
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and
answer it.
Andrew
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ICQ: 2895251
Cisco Certified Network Associate
Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough
to make all of them yourself.




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Kelly Cobean
Ryan,
If you want to operate under the keep it simple principle and go with
the least expensive solution, I would second the suggestion to just use a
modem connected to the aux port.  We do this for all of our remote sites.
It keeps the cost down, as the only things required are an analog phone line
at each site and a cheap modem.  The disadvantage of this is that you can't
remotely power cycle the router in the event that it just plain locks up.
For this ability, I'd check out something like a Moxa remote management
solution, but I think you'll find the cost quite steep, depending on how
thick the company wallet is.  You can check them out at www.moxa.com (no
affilitiation to them, I just happened to look at their stuff not too long
ago.)  Hope this helps.

Kelly Cobean

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I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.

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Subject: Re: remote management of routers? [7:70349]



On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote:

 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that would let me
 dial into a router via the AUX port?

Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a greatone that
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem access
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco adapters and
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and answer it.

Andrew
---

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ICQ: 2895251
Cisco Certified Network Associate

Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all
of them yourself.




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RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]

2003-06-08 Thread Will Gragido
Check out WTI.  They've got several products that may be of interest to you
for OOB management and will likely be less expensive.

Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP
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(AS2509-RJ-CH) we would be looking at $1600 each a bit high to manage one
router but a nice setup if I have more then one.  We are looking at offering
a manageed router service for some ISP's in the states.



Ryan
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Subject: RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]


What you can use is what's called a OOB switch.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/iad/ps492/index.html
I think that's what you might be looking for.
-Nate
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I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only
away I can get to the router is a POTTS line.
-Original Message- 
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that
would let me
 dial into a router via the AUX port?
Are you looking for just one or more ports?  Perle makes a
greatone that
has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem
access
just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco
adapters and
console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and
answer it.
Andrew
--- 

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Cisco Certified Network Associate
Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough
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