Re: [Clamav-users] Violation of the GPL ?
On Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:34 PM [EST], Guillermito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello to all members of this list. > > I was wondering if a company has the right to distribute a scanner > they probably coded, which uses the ClamAV virus signatures database, > and provide this package for free - as in free beer - but not under > the GPL, without source code, and even more, with a home-made licence > that explicitely forbids any reverse engineering or analysis. In other > words, a closed software under a non-GPL compliant licence. > > This french company sells a generic antivirus, and distributes this > scanner tool, well hidden on their website, to clean computers before > installation of their own product. You can find this tool here: > > http://www.tegam.fr/download/tools/vdetect.zip > > > > [DISCLAIMER] > > There is a conflict of interest here. I am currently sued by this > company because I published an analysis of their anti-virus product, > showed a few flaws, and debunked their claim of stopping "100% of > known and unknown viruses", on my website. The publication of exploits > to demonstrate my theorical analysis was labelled as "counterfeiting", > and I am currently indicted for that in France. More info on my > website: http://www.guillermito2.net/archives/2004_03_25e.html > I'm not hiding that if this company actually violates the GPL, it will > help my own case, by showing who acts in good faith and who does not. > > [/DISCLAIMER] Regardless of what ClamAV is licensed as, is the database being published under the GPL as well? Is it public domain? We've run into very similar type questions with the AHBL stuff - what are we going to publish our database information as? Our standard license is either GPL or BSD. Now, there is a difference between the AHBL and the ClamAV database - the AHBL database was pretty much completely constructed by me, and as I own the SOSDG/AHBL, I also own the database, so I can decide alone, or delegate that decision to someone else in my group, on what it will be released as. However, there is alot more people working on ClamAV and its database then just one group - so who technically owns the ClamAV virus database? That would be the person who could act on something like this. If this company is found to be in violation of the GPL, let me know, and I'll see if I can put some heat on them. We've had to smack some people up in the past for breaking licenses on software some of our users developed years ago. -- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.sosdg.org The Abusive Hosts Blocking List http://www.ahbl.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Trouble compiling clamav-latest..
Hi there - I seem to have much trouble compiling last night's snapshot. I checked, and I have automake 1.8 installed, and yet I get this complaint during make : (...) creating sigtool make[2]: Leaving directory `/export/home/turgut/sunos/clamav-devel-20040407/sigtool' Making all in database make[2]: Entering directory `/export/home/turgut/sunos/clamav-devel-20040407/database' cd .. && \ /bin/bash /usr/users/turgut/sunos/clamav-devel-20040407/missing --run automake-1.6 --gnu database/Makefile aclocal.m4:4200: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.6, but aclocal.m4 aclocal.m4:4200: was generated for Automake 1.6.1. You should recreate aclocal.m4:4200: aclocal.m4 with aclocal and run automake again. make[2]: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/export/home/turgut/sunos/clamav-devel-20040407/database' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/export/home/turgut/sunos/clamav-devel-20040407' make: *** [all] Error 2 # Any ideas what to do ? Thanks! -turgut --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through
Andrei Bucur wrote: Hi, i have the same problem ... some viruses go through... my NAV detect some mails with viruses who are detected by clam. When NAV detect a virus i save it on my hdd and after that i run clamscan he detect corectly the virus in the past because some e-mails was rejected "451 - try again later" i use clamav-milter with --dont-scan-on-error --- maybe here is the problem. I've upgraded our ClamAV installation to "clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040407, clamav-milter version 0.70g" and we no longer get the 451 error. I did have some issues with clamav-milter not being happy with the main clamav.conf file... So I used the command line option to force it to a stripped down version. - Original Message - From: "René Bellora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through Tomasz Papszun wrote: $ clamscan -m av-inet1.txt LibClamAV Warning: Multipart MIME message contains no boundary lines av-inet1.txt: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND $ clamscan -V clamscan / ClamAV version devel-20040323 So it _is_ detected. I'd bet: you've got old version or misconfigured system. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Re: Virus Names
Hanford, Seth wrote: [...] > Our search really only needs to be one-way, to keep it in scope. There's > no > need to support searching everyone else's names, only Clam's. Everyone's > talking about NetSky? If you're not receiving SomeFool, then why do you > care? If you are, look up SomeFool. If you're getting files and Clam > doesn't detect them, then submit them. They'll be named, and you'll be > able to search. I couldn't disagree more. Why shouldn't we support reverse lookups? If aliases are submitted just like we submit virus samples now, then what harm would it do to allow the door to swing both ways? And the benefit is obvious: Some windows guy got infected with NetSky? Hmmm... I wonder what Clam calls that? Let's find out... -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through
Hi, i have the same problem ... some viruses go through... my NAV detect some mails with viruses who are detected by clam. When NAV detect a virus i save it on my hdd and after that i run clamscan he detect corectly the virus in the past because some e-mails was rejected "451 - try again later" i use clamav-milter with --dont-scan-on-error --- maybe here is the problem. - Original Message - From: "René Bellora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through > Tomasz Papszun wrote: > > >$ clamscan -m av-inet1.txt > > > >LibClamAV Warning: Multipart MIME message contains no boundary lines > >av-inet1.txt: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND > > > >$ clamscan -V > >clamscan / ClamAV version devel-20040323 > > > >So it _is_ detected. > > > >I'd bet: you've got old version or misconfigured system. > > > > > > > i had installed devel-20040320, it didn't detect it. I installed latest > snapshot (20040407). Now it does detect it, but i'm having problems with > a few emails that were correctly detected in the past... I'll send a > couple of them to Nigel > > > best regards, > René > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&opÌk > ___ > Clamav-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Violation of the GPL ?
Hello to all members of this list. I was wondering if a company has the right to distribute a scanner they probably coded, which uses the ClamAV virus signatures database, and provide this package for free - as in free beer - but not under the GPL, without source code, and even more, with a home-made licence that explicitely forbids any reverse engineering or analysis. In other words, a closed software under a non-GPL compliant licence. This french company sells a generic antivirus, and distributes this scanner tool, well hidden on their website, to clean computers before installation of their own product. You can find this tool here: http://www.tegam.fr/download/tools/vdetect.zip [DISCLAIMER] There is a conflict of interest here. I am currently sued by this company because I published an analysis of their anti-virus product, showed a few flaws, and debunked their claim of stopping "100% of known and unknown viruses", on my website. The publication of exploits to demonstrate my theorical analysis was labelled as "counterfeiting", and I am currently indicted for that in France. More info on my website: http://www.guillermito2.net/archives/2004_03_25e.html I'm not hiding that if this company actually violates the GPL, it will help my own case, by showing who acts in good faith and who does not. [/DISCLAIMER] -- Guillermito http://www.guillermito2.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Behaviour of "StreamMaxLength"
1, 2) Both clamd and clamav-milter are built from 0.70RC (stock built from Petr Kristof's RedHat SPEC file). 3) No I don't, I will. I am seeing the following in clamd.log: WARNING: ScanStream: Size exceeded (stopped at 10461493, max: 10485760) and this in /var/log/messages: clamav-milter: ClamAv, mi_rd_cmd: read returned -1: Connection reset by peer and this in /var/log/maillog: SYSERR(root): out of memory: Cannot allocate memory I am seeing a huge number of the "Cannot allocate memory" messages, many many more than the clamd & clamav-milter mesages (which correspond to each other). Although I believe the "Cannot allocate memory" messages are related to this problem. Many thanks. Andrew > Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Behaviour of "StreamMaxLength" > On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 7:41 pm, Andrew Chan wrote: > > I am not sure I understand "StreamMaxLength". > > > > I am using clamav-milter (sendmail) and I've set "StreamMaxLength 10M". > > 1) What version of clamd (clamscan -V) > 2) What version of clamav-milter (clamav-milter --version) > 3) Do you have LogSysLog enabled in clamav.conf, and if so > are you seeing entries of this form in your syslog? > Message more than StreamMaxLength (%ld) bytes - not scanned > > > Andrew --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Anyone know where I can find deb's of .70rc
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 01:59:41PM -0500, robert said: > I am using debian testing and althought clam is apt-get able it is .67 > and I really want to use .70rc with the OLE option but I before to not > have to compile. Has anyone made a build yet? http://www.lobefin.net/~steve/debian.html is a woody backport. It's an adsl line, so please be gentle, everybody. If you can wait until this weekend, my hardware problems on my main build machine will be repaired, and new version will appear in sid. Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the patience, -- -- | Stephen Gran | Just about every computer on the market | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | today runs Unix, except the Mac (and| | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | nobody cares about it). -- Bill Joy | || 6/21/85 | -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Clamav-users] Clamd protocol
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:57:23 +0200 Przemyslaw Wegrzyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I'm about to include clamavis support in our very simple mail scanner. > My first idea was to use libclamav for that, however my filter will be > > integrated with our mail server in the way that it will be spawned for > each mail. > > For obvious performance reason I'd like to use clamd, but I've found > that libclamav is actually a full scanner, with no "thin client" > possibilities. > > Thus I have following options: > > a) write my own daemon which uses libcalamav, and a client for it, all > using custom protocol (don't write me to use amavisd - we have some > specific requirements) > > b) use clamdscan via forking and pipe > > c) write a client for clamd protocol, basing on clamdscan sources > > I don't like a) for effort amounts, b) is a bit ugly IMHO, c) depends > on a protocol that can be a subject to change . > > Which solution would you suggest ? For a "very simple mail scanner" the (b) solution seems to be the best IMHO. -- oo. Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (\/)\. http://www.ClamAV.net/gpg/tkojm.gpg \..._ 0DCA5A08407D5288279DB43454822DC8985A444B //\ /\ Thu Apr 8 02:05:53 CEST 2004 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Clamav-users] Just installed
you can check your clamd.log where ever you put that :P or you can use something like warn log_message = {VIRUS?} Found, logged and discarding. discard message = something to say.. malware = * discard is better than deny i think since deny bounces it.. and who wants even more bounce backs. so exiscan doesn't really use the discard message part... if you do want to bounce though its easier deny message = {VIRUS?} Found virus ($malware_name) marlware = * only reason i use {VIRUS?} is cause our webmail application already had a built in filter for this type of subject.. as well as {SPAM?} if you want to then see how many you got you can just check your exim/spool/log/mainlog if you discard or rejectlog if you deny for {VIRUS?} grep {VIRUS?} /your/log/file | wc -l for a count of em or something like that.. On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 00:16:02 CEST , Ian Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: I have just installed Clamav with exiscan. How do I know when Clamav has found (or rejected) a virus? Ian Armstrong // /-/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.expressmail.dk / / Brøndshøj 14, Rønne, 3700, Bornholm, Denmark / /--/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/\?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Just installed
On Thursday 08 April 2004 4:16 am, Ian Armstrong wrote: > I have just installed Clamav with exiscan. How do I know when Clamav has > found (or rejected) a virus? You could try sending yourself a test virus and see what happens? http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm Regards, Antony. -- Having been asked for a reference for this man, I can confirm that you will be very lucky indeed if you can get him to work for you. Please reply to the list; please don't CC me. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Just installed
I have just installed Clamav with exiscan. How do I know when Clamav has found (or rejected) a virus? Ian Armstrong // /-/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /http://www.expressmail.dk / / Brøndshøj 14, Rønne, 3700, Bornholm, Denmark / /--/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] False positives
> > > How/Where do I report false positives? it's a faq :) > > Same place you submit uncaught viruses: > I tried this and got this error message: > File is valid, and was successfully uploaded. You uploaded more than 500 kbytes. > This looks wrong. Exiting. Send it to virus _at_ clamav.net (encrypted with a pass if you like) and I'll try to find the problem. Thanks -- Luca 'NERvOus' Gibelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home Page: http://www.nervous.it BOFH excuse 2815: * Daemons loose in system. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Behaviour of "StreamMaxLength"
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 7:41 pm, Andrew Chan wrote: > I am not sure I understand "StreamMaxLength". > > I am using clamav-milter (sendmail) and I've set "StreamMaxLength 10M". 1) What version of clamd (clamscan -V) 2) What version of clamav-milter (clamav-milter --version) 3) Do you have LogSysLog enabled in clamav.conf, and if so are you seeing entries of this form in your syslog? Message more than StreamMaxLength (%ld) bytes - not scanned > Andrew -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bandsman.co.uk --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Clamd protocol
Hi! I'm about to include clamavis support in our very simple mail scanner. My first idea was to use libclamav for that, however my filter will be integrated with our mail server in the way that it will be spawned for each mail. For obvious performance reason I'd like to use clamd, but I've found that libclamav is actually a full scanner, with no "thin client" possibilities. Thus I have following options: a) write my own daemon which uses libcalamav, and a client for it, all using custom protocol (don't write me to use amavisd - we have some specific requirements) b) use clamdscan via forking and pipe c) write a client for clamd protocol, basing on clamdscan sources I don't like a) for effort amounts, b) is a bit ugly IMHO, c) depends on a protocol that can be a subject to change . Which solution would you suggest ? Best Regards, Przemyslaw --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] False positives
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: How/Where do I report false positives? The usual http://www.nervous.it/~nervous/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi or follow the link from www.clamav.net. There's a flag for false-positive there. Regards, Fajar -- Don't use GIF. Use PNG instead http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Anyone know where I can find deb's of .70rc
robert wrote: I am using debian testing and althought clam is apt-get able it is .67 and I really want to use .70rc with the OLE option but I before to not have to compile. Has anyone made a build yet? Binary build of latest daily CVS snapshot is usually available on http://clamav.or.id. It's not .deb, but the static binary .tgz should work on any linux i386. Clamav-milter is included too. Regards, Fajars -- Please avoid sending me Microsoft Office attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] False positives
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 at 12:12:25 -0700, Kevin W. Gagel wrote: > How/Where do I report false positives? > Like other samples - at http://clamav.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi Don't forget to select the "A false positive" option. Give as many details as possible. -- Tomasz Papszun SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland | And it's only [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ones and zeros. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ClamAV.net/ A GPL virus scanner --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] False positives
- Original Message Follows - From: Damian Menscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] False positives Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:53:47 -0500 (CDT) > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Kevin W. Gagel wrote: > > > How/Where do I report false positives? > > Same place you submit uncaught viruses: > > http://www.nervous.it/~nervous/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi > > Be sure to check the "false positive" box. I tried this and got this error message: File is valid, and was successfully uploaded. You uploaded more than 500 kbytes. This looks wrong. Exiting. What now? Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] False positives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Kevin W. Gagel. On 07.04.2004 23:12 you said the following: | How/Where do I report false positives? | | | Kevin W. Gagel | Network Administrator | (250) 561-5848 local 448 | (250) 562-2131 local 448 http://www.nervous.it/~nervous/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi Choose value "A false positive!!!" in "The file attached is:" field. - -- Boris B. Zhmurov mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "wget http://bb.rbcmail.ru/bb_public_key.pgp -O - | gpg --import" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAdF8ZmEQixi5w37YRAuctAJ9Jk1Vu2gvapBCQWxKavKKfGA1BngCfdFqW SEDIea+0Z9d5W9AyncLZQEs= =qKOz -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] False positives
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Kevin W. Gagel wrote: > How/Where do I report false positives? Same place you submit uncaught viruses: http://www.nervous.it/~nervous/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi Be sure to check the "false positive" box. Damian Menscher -- -=#| Physics Grad Student & SysAdmin @ U Illinois Urbana-Champaign |#=- -=#| 488 LLP, 1110 W. Green St, Urbana, IL 61801 Ofc:(217)333-0038 |#=- -=#| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.uiuc.edu/~menscher/ Fax:(217)333-9819 |#=- -=#| The above opinions are not necessarily those of my employers: |#=- -=#| UIUC CITES Security Group || Beckman Imaging Technology Group |#=- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Question on SomeFool Virus
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Denis De Messemacker wrote: > > However, i do not agree completely with you. I think that every variant > of a virus should have a signature in the database, even if it is > already detected by some generic signature. > > Why ? Because if we have to remove the generic signature due to some > false positives, the variant virus will no longer be detected. > > So, generic signatures are fine, but I think we should also have signatures > for a maximum of variants. I almost agree, except for one point: does having extra (unnecessary) signatures slow it down at all? Damian Menscher -- -=#| Physics Grad Student & SysAdmin @ U Illinois Urbana-Champaign |#=- -=#| 488 LLP, 1110 W. Green St, Urbana, IL 61801 Ofc:(217)333-0038 |#=- -=#| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.uiuc.edu/~menscher/ Fax:(217)333-9819 |#=- -=#| The above opinions are not necessarily those of my employers: |#=- -=#| UIUC CITES Security Group || Beckman Imaging Technology Group |#=- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through
Tomasz Papszun wrote: $ clamscan -m av-inet1.txt LibClamAV Warning: Multipart MIME message contains no boundary lines av-inet1.txt: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND $ clamscan -V clamscan / ClamAV version devel-20040323 So it _is_ detected. I'd bet: you've got old version or misconfigured system. i had installed devel-20040320, it didn't detect it. I installed latest snapshot (20040407). Now it does detect it, but i'm having problems with a few emails that were correctly detected in the past... I'll send a couple of them to Nigel best regards, René --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Netsky P not being blocked, using 0.70-rc
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 7:59 pm, Jeff Ramsey wrote: > Do I have to use a CVS version to get this one to be detected? Sophos > detects it fine on this machine. No. I'm picking up Worm.SomeFool.P (aka Worm/NetSky.P according to Antivir, W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] according to F-Prot, W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] according to McAfee) with a very old version of ClamAV (0.60 running under MailScanner) Regards, Antony. -- The lottery is a tax for people who can't do maths. Please reply to the list; please don't CC me. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] False positives
How/Where do I report false positives? Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Anyone know where I can find deb's of .70rc
I am using debian testing and althought clam is apt-get able it is .67 and I really want to use .70rc with the OLE option but I before to not have to compile. Has anyone made a build yet? Thanks Robert
[Clamav-users] Netsky P not being blocked, using 0.70-rc
Do I have to use a CVS version to get this one to be detected? Sophos detects it fine on this machine. -Jeff --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Spam/Virus stats using mrtg
I, too, would like these scripts if at all possible. thx, Howie. >From: Korchmenuk Nickolay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Spam/Virus stats using mrtg >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:13:10 +0300 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mc6-f8.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.144]) by mc6-s13.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:20:40 -0700 >Received: from sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net ([66.35.250.206]) by mc6-f8.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:18:21 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=projects.sourceforge.net)by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30)id 1BB7G8-0007ha-44; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 00:14:04 -0700 >Received: from sc8-sf-mx2-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.12] helo=sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net)by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30)id 1BB7Fm-0007aI-ANfor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 00:13:42 -0700 >Received: from nobody.ukrsat.com ([212.35.160.22])by sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)(Exim 4.30)id 1BB7Fk-0007fr-Lcfor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 00:13:41 -0700 >Received: from tigra.ukrsat.lan (tigra.ukrsat.lan [10.0.0.35])by nobody.ukrsat.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP id i377DAc1046079for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:13:10 +0300 (EEST) >X-Message-Info: KtxBqYfPyq1D4EZLTBDpN96y9TITVXoR >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Organization: JSC UkrSat >X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) >X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net.See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=21 >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: , >List-Id: ClamAV Users Support List >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: , >List-Archive: >X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:13:10 +0300 >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2004 07:18:24.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[83CC84B0:01C41C70] > >Hi >On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:47:34 -0500 >Rick Macdougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Or see http://mail.limelyte.net/admin/qsla/ >Is it your script? Can I download this script? > >-- > Korchmenuk Nickolay >07 Apr 2004 10:11:55 > > >--- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >___ >Clamav-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health & Wellness for information and advice. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Behaviour of "StreamMaxLength"
I am not sure I understand "StreamMaxLength". I am using clamav-milter (sendmail) and I've set "StreamMaxLength 10M". My understanding is that It causes a disconnect to clamav-milter when the stream to be scanned gets larger that 10M. The trouble is apparently sendmail keeps retrying to scan this mail instead of just passing it thru. The directory /var/spool/mqueue ends up having a zillion copies of the orphaned dfxxx files of this mail. And the mail was never delivered. I do NOT have "F=R" or "F=T" in my sendmail.mc file. Any insights will be most appreciated. Andrew
RE: [Clamav-users] Supervised Clamd
>As you can see the multilog file is there, with zero size. The service is >running, but not doing a thing! >[EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# service clamdctl stat >/service/clamd: up (pid 1258) 265702 seconds >/service/clamd/log: up (pid 1259) 265702 seconds > >in your case, your clamdctl script must be OK since clamd in running. And >I'll assume multilog is installed and running. Have you rechecked ownership >and permissions on the /var/log/clamav *directory* ? >What happens when you do: >svc -u /service/clamd/log ?? >Cheers, >--Micha Hey Micha, Thanks for the reponse. Here is some more output. I do have multilog running fine. My qmail is supervised just fine and so are the log files. Here are the permissions on my /var/log/clamd dir [EMAIL PROTECTED] electro]# ls -l /var/log/ |grep clamd drwxr-xr-x 2 qscand qscand 512 Apr 6 14:02 clamd and when I try your suggestion: [EMAIL PROTECTED] clamd]# svc -u /service/clamd/log svc: warning: unable to control /service/clamd/log: supervise not running I appreciate all the help, I just cant think of why this would not be working. Thanks! - Jeff --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 at 18:25:25 +0200, Mimmus wrote: > Here is a mail going through ClamAV undetected: > http://www.geocities.com/viggiani/... > > If I scan it also using www.antivirus.com (Trend) online scan, it is > detected as WORM.NETSKY.P (Layer2 message.scr) > $ clamscan -m av-inet1.txt LibClamAV Warning: Multipart MIME message contains no boundary lines av-inet1.txt: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND $ clamscan -V clamscan / ClamAV version devel-20040323 So it _is_ detected. I'd bet: you've got old version or misconfigured system. -- Tomasz Papszun SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland | And it's only [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ones and zeros. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ClamAV.net/ A GPL virus scanner --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
RE: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of B. van > Ouwerkerk > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names > > > I don't fancy the idea of doing the same job someone else does > but I could > do it if no one else does or has dropped the idea. > This would be a good way for me to do something in return for > using Clamav. me either. I'd certainly be willing to help with something along those lines as well - even if it's only hosting a mirror! I think the idea makes sense to me, but I keep hearing that the clamav format will support some sort of alias system - just not sure what, or how, or if it is enough information. I'd IDEALLY like a system that allows us (collaboratively) to map viruses to all commercial products - PARTICULARLY those maintaining virus information databases, and then allow us to create a diff-based distribution of this database - like the clamav datafile, and also a simple lookup page which could use a template, and the database to return cross references / links to information on the virii as documented by other systems. m/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
[Clamav-users] Re: Some viruses go through
Here is a mail going through ClamAV undetected: http://www.geocities.com/viggiani/av-inet1.txt If I scan it also using www.antivirus.com (Trend) online scan, it is detected as WORM.NETSKY.P (Layer2 message.scr) Mimmus "Antony Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I would also say that it might help us if you tell us which virus/es are being > missed in this way, and perhaps provide a link to an email we can download > which has passed undetected through your system as described, so we can see > if there's anything strange about it. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
RE: [Clamav-users] compiling clamav 0.68
> Hi, > I am compiling clamav 0.68 on HP-UX 11.00. I am getting following > error during make. > I am using GCC 3.0.1. > > > ++ > gcc -g -O2 -o clamscan clamscan.o options.o getopt.o others.o manager.o > treewalk.o -L/usr/local/lib -L/opt/gmp/lib > -L/test/down/clamav-0.68/libclamav /usr/local/lib/libclamav.sl -lz Something strange is going on. ^ This should read libclamav.so. > -lpthread -Wl,+b -Wl,/usr/local/lib > /usr/ccs/bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: >cl_mbox (first referenced in manager.o) (code) >cl_gentemp (first referenced in manager.o) (code) >cl_debug (first referenced in clamscan.o) (code) >cl_strerror (first referenced in manager.o) (code) >cli_strtok (first referenced in manager.o) (code) > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > *** Error exit code 1 >>All those symbols are defined in libclamav. >>And, while you're compiling, please try 0.70-rc (or, better, the latest >>CVS snapshot). As usual, the CVS version fixes many bugs... > > Thanks in advance. > PAd > >Thomas >>>Thomas, >>> I first tried with 0.70-rc, it gave the same error. Then I switched to >>>0.68. Both versions give the same error. >>>Thanks >>>PAd Thomas, It worked. I was able to compile 0.70-rc on HP-UX 11.00. I figured out that make was trying use older clamav libraries in /usr/local/lib/libclamav.* (clamav version 0.54). Removed old clamav library from /usr/local/lib and make was successful. Thanks PAd --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Question on SomeFool Virus
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 11:15:15AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote : > Sound like it's working then :) > > > Should I submit this? or just be thankful or both? > > No point submitting a virus which ClamAV already detects :) Be thankful the > team did a better job than Sophos & McAfee again. > > Regards, > > Antony. > Wow, it seems that Diego did a nice job with all those generic signatures. However, i do not agree completely with you. I think that every variant of a virus should have a signature in the database, even if it is already detected by some generic signature. Why ? Because if we have to remove the generic signature due to some false positives, the variant virus will no longer be detected. So, generic signatures are fine, but I think we should also have signatures for a maximum of variants. Just my two cents, /ddm -- Denis De Messemacker GnuPG Key-ID: 0x02787880 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-labs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ClamAV.net - A GPL virus scanner --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
RE: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
Stuart Mycock Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:24 AM > I'd prefer to adopt the approach of letting the Clam team get a def out > with any name they want and have a non-developer publish basic virus > info on an area of the Clam site, and on that page you'd just have the > blurb on "SomeFool.Q" for example, along with a short description (only > brief, tho, there's plenty of viral analysis on other sites) of the > virus with an "Also known as: NetSky.Q, SmellyVirus.1, Whatever.Q", etc. How about a Wiki? cheers, Colin Colin A. Bartlett Kinetic Web Solutions www.kineticweb.biz --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
RE: [Clamav-users] compiling clamav 0.68
> Hi, > I am compiling clamav 0.68 on HP-UX 11.00. I am getting following > error during make. > I am using GCC 3.0.1. > > > ++ > gcc -g -O2 -o clamscan clamscan.o options.o getopt.o others.o manager.o > treewalk.o -L/usr/local/lib -L/opt/gmp/lib > -L/test/down/clamav-0.68/libclamav /usr/local/lib/libclamav.sl -lz Something strange is going on. ^ This should read libclamav.so. > -lpthread -Wl,+b -Wl,/usr/local/lib > /usr/ccs/bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: >cl_mbox (first referenced in manager.o) (code) >cl_gentemp (first referenced in manager.o) (code) >cl_debug (first referenced in clamscan.o) (code) >cl_strerror (first referenced in manager.o) (code) >cli_strtok (first referenced in manager.o) (code) > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > *** Error exit code 1 All those symbols are defined in libclamav. And, while you're compiling, please try 0.70-rc (or, better, the latest CVS snapshot). As usual, the CVS version fixes many bugs... > > Thanks in advance. > PAd > >Thomas Thomas, I first tried with 0.70-rc, it gave the same error. Then I switched to 0.68. Both versions give the same error. Thanks PAd --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
Eric Rostetter at 2004-04-06 15:37 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >But changing the name after the fact would just confuse people >more. We can't go merrily along for a week or so until the AV people or >the media -- and often it is the media who decide -- come up with the most >popular name, and then rename it. What would that do to any kind of >tracking people do? What would that do to users (last week I got somefool, >but now I'm getting a new virus netsky?) It would cause caos. And much >more caos than having multiple names for a single virus. I agree with this completely. I'd rather do some additional research on the 'Net than have my logs all messed up. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
On Apr 6, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Eric Rostetter wrote: Quoting jef moskot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Eric Rostetter wrote: But changing the name after the fact would just confuse people more. I completely disagree. Hardcore Clam users are more likely to understand the reality of the situation and realize that the ClamAV team has to call the viruses SOMETHING. Usually, that's the same name everyone else uses, but sometimes it isn't. Great for netsky since almost everyone uses it. But what about viruses that have multiple names from the other vendors and the media? For the first week, SCO (clamd) was called novarg by most, until the media took off with mydoom and that became the new name. Should clamav have migrated along from SCO to NOVARG to MYDOOM just because the others came along later and in that order? That is the name that is popularized by the media after the fact...I think many "larger" AV vendors put the aliases in their virus encyclopedias online, don't they? There's maybe a small amount of confusion for a couple days, and that's that. Most viruses don't last for more than a few days anyway, so this only applies to the rare cases (like lately with the virus wars over netsky et al). Tell that to my web server...I still see hits from blaster... But we are constantly being asked by casual (or new) users why ClamAV doesn't pick up Netsky Yes, but the user is just being stupid. They are not getting infected with netsky, so obviously it is picking it up. Hardly. Sometimes when justifying to the PHBs that ClamAV is just as good, if not better than, other solutions you need to answer the questions the PHBs get when they watch the evening news. It would be helpful if you could point them to a knowledge base article or encyclopedia from Clam saying "it's an alias for virus FooBarsays so right here, added on ya ya ya in database version X...and we're protected because our signature version is Y." what the heck "SomeFool" is, etc. Many of those You don't think you'll get that question even if you use the more common name for viruses? It's not the question, it's enabling users to easily find the answer. The question will still get asked, but seeing that most of the admins running ClamAV are hopefully a little more skilled than the average user, most of the questions should be answered at the local administrator level rather than the Clam team level. If the answer were a simple site lookup of an entry for a virus name that was cross-referenced (or put on a separate server that could be CVS'd or Rsynced for a local copy...) On top of that, we have our database being freshclammed several times a day. Since most of the Windows viruses are now fully automated, what happens in the hours between a virus getting released and then discovered then added to the database then our server getting refreshed? Not everyone is running freshclam on the mail server...we're using it to scan incoming mail then forward the mail to our internal mail server. That means that if the WindowsDeath virus comes in before our database holds it, it will get to our internal servers...where a "backup scanner" has to catch it. Then we get into the aliases of viruses problem...we get a report of virus WindowFool being in the message. Are we protected now, it was just something that slipped in between updates? Or is it something we need to worry about? Or...? The process becomes more time-consuming to verify than it needs to be. That's just the price to pay for a solution as flexible as ClamAV... Other than some kind of issue with logging things by virus name, are there any sensible reasons to not use the same name everyone else in the computer community is using? It adds overhead to a volunteer project. Let the other vendors have their fun renaming things with the proprietary name games. It would probably be easiest if the Clam group responded by just making an alias encyclopedia, in my opinion... Also, as I've pointed out, not all the AV vendors agree on the names. It usually isn't clamav against the world (as it appears with netsky). It is more normal that there are 2, 3, or 4 other names for the virus. And you never know which will become the most popular until days or weeks after you name it. worse are the games where a minor minor variant comes out, they slap a new name on it, and then promote their product as catching x,000 viruses while neglecting to mention that 200 of them are the same virus, only instead of having "screw you" embedded in it it has "screw you!", "No, screw YoU!",...etc. etc. etc. Oh well. That's my view, anyway... -Bart --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3
Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
On Apr 6, 2004, at 3:23 PM, Diego d'Ambra wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:clamav-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jef moskot Sent: 6. april 2004 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Eric Rostetter wrote: If netsky is Worm.SomeFool, then why is it not labeled as Worm.SomeFool? But when something is this much of a phenomenon, why not just change the name? I know it's been done for other worms in the past. And that is what we'll (try to) do in the future (if a common name has been established). With all due respect, this may be a bad idea, if I understand you correctly...you're saying that when a virus is found by the clamav team and it's called foo, then other companies get ahold of it and call it bar, the clam team should call it bar also, correct? This would mean that floating around out there in googleland (and for awhile unupdated databases) would be the name foo. People researching will find extremely short-lived virus names floating around because it is one that was renamed... I'm sure there's a simple solution and I'm probably just worrying too much over it, but I would still think it would be better to have a wiki or some kind of knowledge base set up where people could put in information on the virus. The ClamAV name, and a list of aliases from other companies, and maybe a breakdown of the behavior/payload/etc. of the virus, when it was added to the clamav database, etc. and just reference it that way. It would mean minimal changes to clamav, a volunteer group (or the whole user community) could contribute separately from the programming team...would that work? -Bart --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] rarlib question
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:28:18 +0200 Tomasz Kojm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:00:50 +0300 > Korchmenuk Nickolay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:43:24 +0500 > > Sergey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And more: > > > "Due to security reasons clamd only scans archives supported by > > > libclamav and can't use external programs" > > what about unrar from freebsd ports? could developers include some > > code from unrarsrc-3.x.xm for rar v3 support? > > Unfortunately the license of unrar-3 conflicts with the GPL. last qustion about rar from me: why clamscan can use external unrar program and clamdscan(clamav-milter) can't? speed? -- Korchmenuk Nickolay 07 Apr 2004 12:50:13 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
RE: [Clamav-users] Supervised Clamd
> -Original Message- > From: Jeff Bilder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Clamav-users] Supervised Clamd > > > > Has anyone gotten Clamd to run with daemontools? I have a > clamd running supervised, but the log file will not supervise > correctly. I have /service/clamd/log with: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] spamd]# cd /service/clamd/log/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -l > total 4 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root qmail 101 Apr 6 14:20 run > drwx-- 2 root qmail 512 Apr 6 14:06 supervise > > but when I run clamdctl stat I get: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# clamdctl stat > /service/clamd: up (pid 1526) 658 seconds > /service/clamd/log: supervise not running Works fine for me. I have the /service/clamd directory, the /service/clamd/log directory and the /service/clamd.log.supervise directories all sgid. And in the run scripts I used 'setuidgid qscand' (the user that runs clamd). Like so: [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# pwd /service/clamd/log [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -al total 16 drwxr-sr-x3 root root 4096 Jan 11 16:38 . drwxr-sr-x4 root root 4096 Jan 11 16:38 .. -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 104 Jan 11 16:30 run drwx--S---2 root root 4096 Apr 4 14:08 supervise [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# cat run #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qscand /usr/local/bin/multilog t s100 n20 /var/log/clamav HTH, --Micha > > Any ideas? Thanks! > > - Jeff > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President > and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from > fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click > ___ > Clamav-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
At 22:12 06-04-2004 +0200, you wrote: Diego d'Ambra wrote: And that is what we'll (try to) do in the future (if a common name has been established). But that would break statistics. I don't mind if the name is different as long as it can be cross-referenced. Someone was working on a web site with just that but I haven't heard of any news for some time. I'm curious about the status.. I have been looking at the latest announcements and it should be possible to parse them into a MySQL or PG database. A simple lookup page and a link in the warning to the user should fix it. And a page for a few trusted persons to add any information to viri, or allow any user to do so.. I don't fancy the idea of doing the same job someone else does but I could do it if no one else does or has dropped the idea. This would be a good way for me to do something in return for using Clamav. B. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Names
I'm behind the Clam team in that they focus on getting sigs out before worrying about the name. I don't know if this is a technical limitation of the virus db's (and not sure if this has been mentioned previously, sorry) but what's to stop the name of the virus being changed in the virus db once a 'common' name has been determined? My problem with doing that is that it requires a developer to update the DB when he could be busy beating the pants off Sophos analysing new wild viruses, and frankly I'd rather live with an AKA and have up-to-the-minute protection than wait a couple of hours until the other AV's have had their little waffle about cool names. ;) I'd prefer to adopt the approach of letting the Clam team get a def out with any name they want and have a non-developer publish basic virus info on an area of the Clam site, and on that page you'd just have the blurb on "SomeFool.Q" for example, along with a short description (only brief, tho, there's plenty of viral analysis on other sites) of the virus with an "Also known as: NetSky.Q, SmellyVirus.1, Whatever.Q", etc. I forget now, but someone had posted a brief list of AKA's, perhaps it can be integrated into the Clam website, or a new section created on clamav.net? It would free-up the developers from having to think about common names, it would only take a couple of Clam admins to update it after doing some queries with other AV's, and all you'd need to do is direct your end-users to the virus info page so they can find out for themselves what SomeFool is according to the other AV's. Stuart. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] compiling clamav 0.68
Pad Hosmane schrieb: Hi, I am compiling clamav 0.68 on HP-UX 11.00. I am getting following error during make. I am using GCC 3.0.1. ++ gcc -g -O2 -o clamscan clamscan.o options.o getopt.o others.o manager.o treewalk.o -L/usr/local/lib -L/opt/gmp/lib -L/test/down/clamav-0.68/libclamav /usr/local/lib/libclamav.sl -lz Something strange is going on. ^ This should read libclamav.so. -lpthread -Wl,+b -Wl,/usr/local/lib /usr/ccs/bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: cl_mbox (first referenced in manager.o) (code) cl_gentemp (first referenced in manager.o) (code) cl_debug (first referenced in clamscan.o) (code) cl_strerror (first referenced in manager.o) (code) cli_strtok (first referenced in manager.o) (code) collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error exit code 1 All those symbols are defined in libclamav. And, while you're compiling, please try 0.70-rc (or, better, the latest CVS snapshot). As usual, the CVS version fixes many bugs... Thanks in advance. PAd Thomas --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users
Re: [Clamav-users] Spam/Virus stats using mrtg
Hi On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:47:34 -0500 Rick Macdougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or see http://mail.limelyte.net/admin/qsla/ Is it your script? Can I download this script? -- Korchmenuk Nickolay 07 Apr 2004 10:11:55 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Clamav-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamav-users