Re: Clojure/West 2013 videos?
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.comwrote: In fact, your statement is wrong as to very basic economics. The value of being there at the conference isn't alterable by something that hasn't, at that point, even happened yet. A delayed release only takes value *away* from the *videos*. It may make being there at the conference *relatively* more valuable than the videos, but it doesn't change the conference's *absolute* value and it actually *diminishes* the *total* value of both. But it's the relative value that matters. To decide whether to go to the conference, I compare the relative value of going over not going; You are confused. The relative value of going over not going *is* the absolute value of the conference and *is not* the relative value of the conference and the videos. Most of the value of the conference isn't something videos can compete with anyway, as it's in the opportunities to meet people and perhaps to do live QA with a presenter. The videos likewise have value the conference itself can't compete with -- replayability, convenience, not having to travel a long way at substantial expense to see them, etc. The two are far more complementary than they are competitive with one another. Broadly speaking, a conference offers two things: information and the fun of networking and being around with others who share your interests. If I know the videos are going to be released immediately, for free, then my judgment about whether to attend the conference becomes a very specific calculation about whether the value to me of interacting with other Clojurians exceeds cost of the conference. And that's exactly as it should be. The only *good* reason to travel all that way is to meet and interact with the other attendees. Using artificial scarcity of the videos to try to coerce people into traveling physically to the conference that *don't* value the interaction enough to go anyway is only going to bring in marginal additional attendees that are *bad attendees*, diluting the population of attendees that are really looking to network with one another and making that networking more difficult. The hay straws to needles ratio in the haystack goes up. The delayed release means that going to the conference becomes not just about the networking, but also the thrill and immediacy of being the first on the block to be privy to the latest and greatest information about Clojure, the new libraries, etc. Thus the delayed release adds value to the conference. No, it really doesn't. Because if you attend you're the first on the block no matter how soon the videos are released, given that nobody hops in his time machine and releases the videos *before* the conference. :) See also: my much earlier post debunking the economic fallacy underlying the counterproductive notion of television blackouts for sports games that aren't sold out at the stadium. (I can provide citations on that topic if need be.) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Which is the most idiomatic way to go
Ah! Got what you mean, thanks a lot :) On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:52:39 AM UTC+2, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: 2013/3/25 Ryan areka...@gmail.com javascript: Thanks for your input Herwig. When talking to a database, there might already be record and list-of-records interface, for step 2. I didn't fully understand what you meant with that. Can you please explain? For example clojure.java.jdbc/insert! [1] can take a number of record maps, to be inserted into a table. Datomic's transact [2] can also take a list of maps, that are interpreted as additions of facts to an entity. I imagine similar interfaces exist for various no-sql systems. The hint was, that given those interfaces, your step 2 might just be another functional transformation, continuing into a single call to an update! function of your db system. [1] http://clojure.github.com/java.jdbc/#clojure.java.jdbc/insert! [2] http://docs.datomic.com/clojure/index.html#datomic.api/transact -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: why am I hitting the 64k method limit on a var?
What exactly is getting compiled into a class here? Not the map itself, I
believe; that wouldn't even cause this error.
From general clues, the code that builds your config map is being compiled
into a method. Without AOT compilation this shouldn't be happening, but I'm
surprised it's happening even with AOT.
-marko
On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:35:33 PM UTC+1, David Powell wrote:
You might be better off putting the config into a file, and then
read-ing it. That way it never gets compiled into a class, and just
stays as a data structure.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM, larry google groups
lawrenc...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
Are vars subject to Java's 64k limit on methods? I started an app a few
months ago and I was putting all the config into into a var:
(def app-config
{
:cites {
;; more here
}
:slides {
;; more here
}
:questions {
;; more here
}
}
Then I guess I added too much and I started getting the error regarding
the 64k limit. Is this expected?
Why can I add more than 64k to a var, but I can not define it that way at
compile time?
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Re: why am I hitting the 64k method limit on a var?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Marko Topolnik marko.topol...@gmail.comwrote: What exactly is getting compiled into a class here? Not the map itself, I believe; that wouldn't even cause this error. From general clues, the code that builds your config map is being compiled into a method. Without AOT compilation this shouldn't be happening, but I'm surprised it's happening even with AOT. Java classes can contain code, and primitive constants, everything else, even array initialisers in Java, have to be compiled into initialiser code that builds the data-structure. I'd guess that this would be a pretty big map to run to over 64k though - though I think Clojure has a single initialiser method that initialises all vars in the namespace, so it is tha total that is important. I think AOT is irrelevant - the same classes get compiled whether they are AOT'd or not. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
JIT Compiler crash on IBM JDK 6
Hi, I'm hitting a JIT compiler bug in IBM JDK 6 with the following code (forcing JIT compilation using -Xjit:count=0): (defprotocol FooProtocol (do-something [x])) (def foo (reify FooProtocol (do-something [this] (locking this (println XXX) (do-something foo) IBM JDK 6 is part of the clojure build matrix (though the last stable build is from over a year ago: http://build.clojure.org/job/clojure-test-matrix/jdk=IBM%20JDK%201.6/lastStableBuild/ ) I'm committed to supporting the IBM JVM as we are supporting AIX on PowerPC where there are no alternatives. For now I have to avoid the locking macro. The JVM crashes with the following output: Unhandled exception Type=Segmentation error vmState=0x0005ff05 J9Generic_Signal_Number=0004 Signal_Number=000b Error_Value= Signal_Code=0001 Handler1=7FBD43A7C900 Handler2=7FBD43735FB0 InaccessibleAddress=0008015F5718 RDI=019C2418 RSI=015F5700 RAX=015F5720 RBX=015C5378 RCX=0001 RDX= R8= R9=0001 R10= R11=015F54D8 R12=015C5AD0 R13=7FBD1F2E7240 R14=015F5700 R15=019C86F8 RIP=7FBD416E944A GS= FS= RSP=7FBD1F2E7040 EFlags=00210296 CS=0033 RBP=015C5A98 ERR=0004 TRAPNO=000E OLDMASK= CR2=0008015F5718 xmm0 ff00 (f: 0.00, d: 1.385239e-309) xmm1 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm2 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm3 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm4 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm5 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm6 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm7 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm8 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm9 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm10 00ff (f: 16777215.00, d: 8.289046e-317) xmm11 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm12 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm13 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm14 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) xmm15 (f: 0.00, d: 0.00e+00) Module=/usr/lib/jvm/ibm-java-x86_64-60/jre/lib/amd64/default/libj9jit24.so Module_base_address=7FBD4162D000 Method_being_compiled=user$reify__27.do_something()Ljava/lang/Object; Target=2_40_20121024_126067 (Linux 3.0.0-32-generic) CPU=amd64 (8 logical CPUs) (0x3eba54000 RAM) --- Stack Backtrace --- (0x7FBD416E944A [libj9jit24.so+0xbc44a]) (0x7FBD416EB6F3 [libj9jit24.so+0xbe6f3]) (0x7FBD416E7DA0 [libj9jit24.so+0xbada0]) (0x7FBD416E8060 [libj9jit24.so+0xbb060]) (0x7FBD416F4909 [libj9jit24.so+0xc7909]) (0x7FBD416F43C4 [libj9jit24.so+0xc73c4]) (0x7FBD4169F077 [libj9jit24.so+0x72077]) (0x7FBD4169E3EC [libj9jit24.so+0x713ec]) (0x7FBD437356B1 [libj9prt24.so+0x196b1]) (0x7FBD4169DE4D [libj9jit24.so+0x70e4d]) (0x7FBD4169AFF9 [libj9jit24.so+0x6dff9]) (0x7FBD437356B1 [libj9prt24.so+0x196b1]) (0x7FBD4169AD42 [libj9jit24.so+0x6dd42]) (0x7FBD4395F0F6 [libj9thr24.so+0x40f6]) (0x7FBD44F50EFC [libpthread.so.0+0x7efc]) clone+0x6d (0x7FBD44A86F8D [libc.so.6+0xe4f8d]) --- Paudi -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessing a resource inside a jar
John, That appears to be working. Thanks! -- Clinton On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:04:38 AM UTC-4, John Hume wrote: It looks like MimetypesFileTypeMap wants a path to a plain file. I can't try this right now, but I think you want the constructor that takes an InputStream. Something like (MimetypesFileTypeMap. (io/input-stream (io/resource thefile))) though if you just passed /thefile to io/input-stream, that might do it. On Mar 25, 2013 9:08 PM, Clinton Dreisbach cli...@dreisbach.usjavascript: wrote: My apologies for a simple question, but: I have a very small library I wrote that needs to read a file in its resources/ directory. In the project, this works fine. However, when I package the library as a JAR, it can't find the file. I thought I was following the best practice of getting the file like so: (.getFile (io/resource mime.types)) mime.types is definitely in the JAR; it's at the root. You can see the project at https://github.com/cndreisbach/ring.middleware.mime-extensions and the problem in particular at https://github.com/cndreisbach/ring.middleware.mime-extensions/blob/master/src/ring/middleware/mime_extensions.clj#L12 . Am I missing some piece of knowledge about my project.clj? Any help you could give would be very appreciated. Thanks, Clinton Dreisbach -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Clojure/West 2013 videos?
Alex, you are doing a wonderful job with the videos. InfoQ is helping us all by making a business out of quality videos. From experience, I know there are always people wanting things quicker and cheaper. I bet the same complains will be here if the videos are releases in half the time. Of course I would love to have all videos available now. But it is not normal to have (all) videos available at all... So... I am very happy with the current situation. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
GSoC 2013: Only three days left to submit project ideas
Hello, all, There are just three days left to prepare our application for GSoC 2013. Although we have a number of really good ideas up on our Project Ideas page http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Project+Ideas, we really need to do a lot more in order to strengthen our application. By submitting ideas to the project page, you needn't commit to being a mentor. The most important thing is to put together a great list so that Clojure can participate in this year's GSoC. Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Daniel signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: JIT Compiler crash on IBM JDK 6
Hi Paudi, Which particular version of the IBM JDK are you running (java -version) and have you checked if you are running the very latest version? Thomas -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: JIT Compiler crash on IBM JDK 6
Hi Thomas, This is occuring on every Linux and AIX version I've tried, SR9, SR11 and SR12. I tried Java 7 but it seems Clojure is very broken on IBM Java 7. Getting ClassFormatErrors when building Clojure itself there! Paudi On Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:38:44 UTC, Thomas wrote: Hi Paudi, Which particular version of the IBM JDK are you running (java -version) and have you checked if you are running the very latest version? Thomas -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: why am I hitting the 64k method limit on a var?
On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:13:54 PM UTC+1, David Powell wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Marko Topolnik marko.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: What exactly is getting compiled into a class here? Not the map itself, I believe; that wouldn't even cause this error. From general clues, the code that builds your config map is being compiled into a method. Without AOT compilation this shouldn't be happening, but I'm surprised it's happening even with AOT. I'd guess that this would be a pretty big map to run to over 64k though - though I think Clojure has a single initialiser method that initialises all vars in the namespace, so it is tha total that is important. I think AOT is irrelevant - the same classes get compiled whether they are AOT'd or not. Each form is compiled individually and nothing is compiled for the namespace as a whole. Whether or not this is true for AOT I'm not sure; for :gen-class it is definitely not true. -marko -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: JIT Compiler crash on IBM JDK 6
On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:19:08 PM UTC, Paudi Moriarty wrote: Hi Thomas, This is occuring on every Linux and AIX version I've tried, SR9, SR11 and SR12. I tried Java 7 but it seems Clojure is very broken on IBM Java 7. Getting ClassFormatErrors when building Clojure itself there! Paudi Interesting, I am now running Java 7 SR4 on Linux X86 (32bit) and haven't seen any problems (yet). Older versions of 7 did have problems, but they seem to have been fixed. Thomas -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: JIT Compiler crash on IBM JDK 6
Thanks for that, I'll have a look. Think it was SR3 on x86_64 I tried. On Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:09:43 UTC, Thomas wrote: On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:19:08 PM UTC, Paudi Moriarty wrote: Hi Thomas, This is occuring on every Linux and AIX version I've tried, SR9, SR11 and SR12. I tried Java 7 but it seems Clojure is very broken on IBM Java 7. Getting ClassFormatErrors when building Clojure itself there! Paudi Interesting, I am now running Java 7 SR4 on Linux X86 (32bit) and haven't seen any problems (yet). Older versions of 7 did have problems, but they seem to have been fixed. Thomas -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Sweet-expressions
I don't like the idea of infix math as a reader macro. Yeah prefix is weird
to read for complex expressions, but in such rare cases there are ordinary
macros that let you do infix math. Use them.
An interesting thought I had the other day regarding infix math:
It would be possible for Clojure to provide it's own implementations of the
basic number classes (Integer, Long, Double, etc) that implement IFn such
that they take a function and another number and apply themselves and the
other number to the function.
Then we could just write (2 + 5).
I imagine this has all kinds of downsides regarding optimisation and what
to do with numbers that get emitted from java code and so forth.
On Monday, 25 March 2013 10:52:23 UTC, poetix wrote:
I really like the look of this:
http://readable.sourceforge.net/
which defines a completely reversible transformation between e.g.
define fibfast(n)
if {n 2}
n
fibup(n 2 1 0)
and
(define (fibfast n)
(if ( n 2)
n
(fibup n 2 1 0)))
and wonder how difficult it would be to support it (or something like it)
in/for Clojure. A coffeescript-like approach might be a good first step.
Any thoughts?
Dominic
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Re: JIT Compiler crash on IBM JDK 6
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Paudi Moriarty pmoria...@annadaletech.comwrote: IBM JDK 6 is part of the clojure build matrix (though the last stable build is from over a year ago: http://build.clojure.org/job/clojure-test-matrix/jdk=IBM%20JDK%201.6/lastStableBuild/ ) I don't have any suggestions about the crash you are experiencing, but I do know that the only reason that Clojure fails to build with IBM JDK 6 is due to a couple of tests failing due to differences in how IBM JDK 6 handles encoding/decoding of UTF-16. CLJ-967 has a patch that disables the two failing tests when building Clojure with IBM JDK 6, but it looks like it will not be committed. http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-967 With those two failing tests disabled, Clojure 1.5.1 builds and the rest the tests pass just fine with IBM JDK 6. I haven't found any IBM JDK 7 version that can build Clojure 1.5.1 successfully on Linux (tried SR3 and SR4 this morning with different kinds of failures with each). Andy -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: why am I hitting the 64k method limit on a var?
I'd guess that this would be a pretty big map to run to over 64k though - though I think Clojure has a single initialiser method that initialises all vars in the namespace, so it is tha total that is important. It certainly seems as if it is the whole namespace that is being compiled. The startup file was fine for a while, when I had maybe 3k or 4k of data that I was holding in a map, which told the software about the different types of data it needed to work on. But then my company gave me a list of all search node numbers that we have used to structure the way we make calls to Solr. The most obvious place for me to put this was in that same map, so I could use it to build search queries on the fly, but, as I said, I then ran into the 64k limit. I guess, moving forward, I will store the data in MongoDb and I will read into that var once the app is running. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:13:54 AM UTC-4, David Powell wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Marko Topolnik marko.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: What exactly is getting compiled into a class here? Not the map itself, I believe; that wouldn't even cause this error. From general clues, the code that builds your config map is being compiled into a method. Without AOT compilation this shouldn't be happening, but I'm surprised it's happening even with AOT. Java classes can contain code, and primitive constants, everything else, even array initialisers in Java, have to be compiled into initialiser code that builds the data-structure. I'd guess that this would be a pretty big map to run to over 64k though - though I think Clojure has a single initialiser method that initialises all vars in the namespace, so it is tha total that is important. I think AOT is irrelevant - the same classes get compiled whether they are AOT'd or not. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: why am I hitting the 64k method limit on a var?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:48 PM, larry google groups lawrencecloj...@gmail.com wrote: I'd guess that this would be a pretty big map to run to over 64k though - though I think Clojure has a single initialiser method that initialises all vars in the namespace, so it is tha total that is important. It certainly seems as if it is the whole namespace that is being compiled. The startup file was fine for a while, when I had maybe 3k or 4k of data that I was holding in a map, which told the software about the different types of data it needed to work on. But then my company gave me a list of all search node numbers that we have used to structure the way we make calls to Solr. The most obvious place for me to put this was in that same map, so I could use it to build search queries on the fly, but, as I said, I then ran into the 64k limit. I guess, moving forward, I will store the data in MongoDb and I will read into that var once the app is running. Yeah, top-level defs get compiled into a *namespace__init.class* class - you can verify this by AOT compiling then using *javap -c* on the class file. Something like: (def config (read (clojure.java.io/resource my_file.clj))) will overcome the limitation -- Dave -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Amazonica: Clojure client for the entire AWS api
Thanks for the comments. I've made the suggested changes such that the AWS functions take an optional first parameter map of credentials. But I'm left wondering if it should not be required, and just do away with the stateful defcredential convenience. Thots? On Monday, March 25, 2013 6:29:49 PM UTC-7, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: 2013/3/26 James Reeves ja...@booleanknot.com javascript: It looks very interesting, but I'm afraid I really don't like defcredential macro. The Clojure API should really have *less*mutability than the Java API, not more :) Agreed! It would be nicer to pass a context to the api functions. The api functions could be generated such to expect an optional first context argument and otherwise expect a dynamic binding. IMO it would also be acceptable to unconditionally take a context argument, because we have doto. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Amazonica: Clojure client for the entire AWS api
I'm a bit concerned about all the reflection going on. Am I correct that the lib does dynamic dispatch at runtime based on both the arity and the number of arguments? The code looks like it would be painfully slow. Perhaps the hit is okay if I only want to make a dozen calls a second or so, but if I wanted more performance it seems like this library would cause me some problems. Besides that, I love the idea of an auto generated lib. Timothy Baldridge On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Michael Cohen mcohe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the comments. I've made the suggested changes such that the AWS functions take an optional first parameter map of credentials. But I'm left wondering if it should not be required, and just do away with the stateful defcredential convenience. Thots? On Monday, March 25, 2013 6:29:49 PM UTC-7, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: 2013/3/26 James Reeves ja...@booleanknot.com It looks very interesting, but I'm afraid I really don't like defcredential macro. The Clojure API should really have *less*mutability than the Java API, not more :) Agreed! It would be nicer to pass a context to the api functions. The api functions could be generated such to expect an optional first context argument and otherwise expect a dynamic binding. IMO it would also be acceptable to unconditionally take a context argument, because we have doto. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.” (Robert Firth) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Amazonica: Clojure client for the entire AWS api
Well, of course everything is handled via reflection, which has a cost. The question is, can you afford the cost. In general, I think most of the AWS apis really aren't concerned with performance, e.g. EC2, and you're not making (many) repeated calls. If you look at something like DynamoDB though, that might be a case where you're quite concerned with performance, and potentially making numerous calls. Of course these calls are remote calls, so I'd guess that the reflection penalty is much smaller than the price you pay going out of process. As with anything though, measurement is key. I actually planned on doing some kind of benchmark comparison against Jame's excellent rotary https://github.com/weavejester/rotary. In general though I think for AWS reflection would not be an issue. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:23:29 AM UTC-7, tbc++ wrote: I'm a bit concerned about all the reflection going on. Am I correct that the lib does dynamic dispatch at runtime based on both the arity and the number of arguments? The code looks like it would be painfully slow. Perhaps the hit is okay if I only want to make a dozen calls a second or so, but if I wanted more performance it seems like this library would cause me some problems. Besides that, I love the idea of an auto generated lib. Timothy Baldridge On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Michael Cohen mcoh...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Thanks for the comments. I've made the suggested changes such that the AWS functions take an optional first parameter map of credentials. But I'm left wondering if it should not be required, and just do away with the stateful defcredential convenience. Thots? On Monday, March 25, 2013 6:29:49 PM UTC-7, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: 2013/3/26 James Reeves ja...@booleanknot.com It looks very interesting, but I'm afraid I really don't like defcredential macro. The Clojure API should really have *less*mutability than the Java API, not more :) Agreed! It would be nicer to pass a context to the api functions. The api functions could be generated such to expect an optional first context argument and otherwise expect a dynamic binding. IMO it would also be acceptable to unconditionally take a context argument, because we have doto. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.” (Robert Firth) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Amazonica: Clojure client for the entire AWS api
Michael Cohen mcohe...@gmail.com writes: Well, of course everything is handled via reflection, which has a cost. The question is, can you afford the cost. Or can the cost be confined to compile time... In general, I think most of the AWS apis really aren't concerned with performance, e.g. EC2, and you're not making (many) repeated calls. In general though I think for AWS reflection would not be an issue. I think the dynamic use of reflection would be enough to put me off using this in something like pallet, for example. Hugo -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: why am I hitting the 64k method limit on a var?
On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:54:12 PM UTC+1, David Powell wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:48 PM, larry google groups lawrenc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'd guess that this would be a pretty big map to run to over 64k though - though I think Clojure has a single initialiser method that initialises all vars in the namespace, so it is tha total that is important. It certainly seems as if it is the whole namespace that is being compiled. The startup file was fine for a while, when I had maybe 3k or 4k of data that I was holding in a map, which told the software about the different types of data it needed to work on. But then my company gave me a list of all search node numbers that we have used to structure the way we make calls to Solr. The most obvious place for me to put this was in that same map, so I could use it to build search queries on the fly, but, as I said, I then ran into the 64k limit. I guess, moving forward, I will store the data in MongoDb and I will read into that var once the app is running. Yeah, top-level defs get compiled into a *namespace__init.class* class - you can verify this by AOT compiling then using *javap -c* on the class file. There is no equivalent to this in the case without AOT compilation. In that case the evaluation of each def form individually compiles and executes its initialization code. -marko -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Seeking help with the Leiningen Chocolatey package (Windows)
Folks who use Leiningen on Windows, Leiningen maintainers need a little bit of your help. The Chocolatey Leiningen package maintainer can no longer support it and is looking to pass things on: http://chocolatey.org/packages/leiningen If you are familiar with Chocolatey, consider helping him out. Unfortunately, none of the active Leiningen contributors use Windows but they definitely don't want Leiningen to suck on it. They also don't want Chocolatey users to be stuck on an old preview version. We need a hand or two from Windows users with this. If you want to help, please leave a comment on the Chocolatey package page: http://chocolatey.org/packages/leiningen Thank you! -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Hello all, I have been searching and searching on how to do this but I am failing miserably. I am trying to do a pretty simply thing actually. I have the following vector: [:foo :bar] and a function that takes keywords as arguments, like so: (my-function :foo :bar more) What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? Thank you for any replies -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
2013/3/26 Ryan arekand...@gmail.com What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Thanks Michael, but If i am not mistaken, your example only works with a vector with two elements. What if we have an unknown number of vector elements? My apologies if that wasn't clear on my first post. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:38:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Klishin wrote: 2013/3/26 Ryan areka...@gmail.com javascript: What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Have you tried (apply my-function [:foo :bar]) yet? Because *apply* is exactly what you are looking for; to make sure, read its docstring. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:44:49 PM UTC+1, Ryan wrote: Thanks Michael, but If i am not mistaken, your example only works with a vector with two elements. What if we have an unknown number of vector elements? My apologies if that wasn't clear on my first post. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:38:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Klishin wrote: 2013/3/26 Ryan areka...@gmail.com What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Apply works for any number of args: (apply + [1 2 3 4 5]) He just gave you an example inline function of 2 args since that was the original example. Alan Thompson On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Ryan arekand...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Michael, but If i am not mistaken, your example only works with a vector with two elements. What if we have an unknown number of vector elements? My apologies if that wasn't clear on my first post. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:38:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Klishin wrote: 2013/3/26 Ryan areka...@gmail.com What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/**michaelklishin http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/**michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
2013/3/26 Ryan arekand...@gmail.com Thanks Michael, but If i am not mistaken, your example only works with a vector with two elements. What if we have an unknown number of vector elements? My apologies if that wasn't clear on my first post. If your function's signature allows for rest arguments, it will work. If not, you will get a wrong arity exception: user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b :c :d :e]) ArityException Wrong number of args (5) passed to: user$eval353$fn clojure.lang.AFn.throwArity (AFn.java:437) user= (apply (fn [a b xs] (println a b)) [:a :b :c :d :e]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
You are mistaken :) try: (apply str [:a :b :c]) (apply str [:a :b :c :d :e]) (doc apply) - clojure.core/apply ([f args] [f x args] [f x y args] [f x y z args] [f a b c d args]) Applies fn f to the argument list formed by prepending intervening arguments to args. nil On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:44:49 PM UTC+1, Ryan wrote: Thanks Michael, but If i am not mistaken, your example only works with a vector with two elements. What if we have an unknown number of vector elements? My apologies if that wasn't clear on my first post. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:38:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Klishin wrote: 2013/3/26 Ryan areka...@gmail.com What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Essentially, apply just removes the parens (or brackets) from your list of args and creates the original function call: (apply + [1 2 3]) - (+ 1 2 3) Alan Thompson On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Alan Thompson thompson2...@gmail.comwrote: Apply works for any number of args: (apply + [1 2 3 4 5]) He just gave you an example inline function of 2 args since that was the original example. Alan Thompson On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Ryan arekand...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Michael, but If i am not mistaken, your example only works with a vector with two elements. What if we have an unknown number of vector elements? My apologies if that wasn't clear on my first post. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:38:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Klishin wrote: 2013/3/26 Ryan areka...@gmail.com What i am trying to do is to apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function. How can I achieve this? user= (apply (fn [a b] (println a b)) [:a :b]) :a :b nil -- MK http://github.com/**michaelklishin http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/**michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Thank you guys for your answer. apply was the first thing I used but I got the following error: java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.Keyword cannot be cast to clojure.lang.Associative and i thought i am not going the right way. What i am more specifically trying to do is this: http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select In the link above, the select example takes a (fields ) function so, I made the following wrapper because it was convenient to use in my project: (defn find-one-row [entity fields-vector where-hash-map] (first (select entity (apply fields fields-vector) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 ...but it throws the error i mentioned If i hardcode the fields like this, it works fine: (defn find-one-row [entity where-hash-map] (first (select entity (fields :id) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 Any ideas? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:51:34 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
The docs there seem to imply that fields takes a keyword or a vector, rather than a keyword or keywords. Try just (fields fields-vector), without the apply. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ryan arekand...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you guys for your answer. apply was the first thing I used but I got the following error: java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.Keyword cannot be cast to clojure.lang.Associative and i thought i am not going the right way. What i am more specifically trying to do is this: http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select In the link above, the select example takes a (fields ) function so, I made the following wrapper because it was convenient to use in my project: (defn find-one-row [entity fields-vector where-hash-map] (first (select entity (apply fields fields-vector) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 ...but it throws the error i mentioned If i hardcode the fields like this, it works fine: (defn find-one-row [entity where-hash-map] (first (select entity (fields :id) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 Any ideas? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:51:34 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
;;from the website you linked (/fields/ [:firstname :first]:last :address.state) ;; you can alias a field using a vector of [field alias] Your vector argument should look like this: [[:firstname :first]:last :address.state] or like this (if you're not aliasing): [:firstname :last :address.state] or in your case exactly: [:id] [[:id :identity]] ;;with aliasing is this how your 'fields-vector' looks like? Jim ps: I've not looked at the source of 'fields', I may be wrong... On 26/03/13 20:12, Ryan wrote: Thank you guys for your answer. apply was the first thing I used but I got the following error: java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.Keyword cannot be cast to clojure.lang.Associative and i thought i am not going the right way. What i am more specifically trying to do is this: http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select In the link above, the select example takes a (fields ) function so, I made the following wrapper because it was convenient to use in my project: (defn find-one-row [entity fields-vector where-hash-map] (first (select entity (apply fields fields-vector) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 ...but it throws the error i mentioned If i hardcode the fields like this, it works fine: (defn find-one-row [entity where-hash-map] (first (select entity (fields :id) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 Any ideas? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:51:34 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Ah damn, you are right! Sorry if I wasted anyone's time :) At least I learned that apply was the way to go in my original post On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:23:10 PM UTC+2, Cedric Greevey wrote: The docs there seem to imply that fields takes a keyword or a vector, rather than a keyword or keywords. Try just (fields fields-vector), without the apply. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ryan areka...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Thank you guys for your answer. apply was the first thing I used but I got the following error: java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.Keyword cannot be cast to clojure.lang.Associative and i thought i am not going the right way. What i am more specifically trying to do is this: http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select In the link above, the select example takes a (fields ) function so, I made the following wrapper because it was convenient to use in my project: (defn find-one-row [entity fields-vector where-hash-map] (first (select entity (apply fields fields-vector) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 ...but it throws the error i mentioned If i hardcode the fields like this, it works fine: (defn find-one-row [entity where-hash-map] (first (select entity (fields :id) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 Any ideas? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:51:34 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
aaa see? always check the docs first and the sources second (if available)...I should have done that as well :) Jim On 26/03/13 20:28, Ryan wrote: Ah damn, you are right! Sorry if I wasted anyone's time :) At least I learned that apply was the way to go in my original post On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:23:10 PM UTC+2, Cedric Greevey wrote: The docs there seem to imply that fields takes a keyword or a vector, rather than a keyword or keywords. Try just (fields fields-vector), without the apply. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ryan areka...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thank you guys for your answer. apply was the first thing I used but I got the following error: java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.Keyword cannot be cast to clojure.lang.Associative and i thought i am not going the right way. What i am more specifically trying to do is this: http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select In the link above, the select example takes a (fields ) function so, I made the following wrapper because it was convenient to use in my project: (defn find-one-row [entity fields-vector where-hash-map] (first (select entity (apply fields fields-vector) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 ...but it throws the error i mentioned If i hardcode the fields like this, it works fine: (defn find-one-row [entity where-hash-map] (first (select entity (fields :id) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 Any ideas? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:51:34 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[GSoC Idea] Program analysis suite, based on Rich Hickey's Codeq
Category: Tooling Name: Program analysis suite, based on Rich Hickey's Codeq Brief explanation: Rich Hickey, inventor of Clojure and Datomic, created Codeq as a prototype framework for program analysis. It harvests multiple information sources (eg, Git metadata, source code), and stores the results in a graph database (eg, Datomic). The results are thus available for querying, processing, visualization, etc. Although Codeq is very promising, it is only a proof of concept, lacking analyzers, a control framework, and presentation tools. Turning Codeq into a production suite would be a substantial software engineering effort, with corresponding visibility. The student would extend the base that Codeq provides, producing a compelling and robust example of the power of this approach. Expected results: The suite should be ready for drop-in installation in typical Clojure shops. It should do continuous harvesting of code bases. It should extend the current Clojure analyzer to harvest names of called functions and methods, use of global state, etc. Stretch goals might include other analyzers (eg, Java), queries for common use cases, analysis and visualization software, etc. Knowledge prerequisites: Interest in mechanized program analysis. Experience with Clojure. Difficulty: Medium Mentor: Rich Morin (mechanized documentation enthusiast), Tom Faulhaber (author of Autodoc, cl-format, etc.) -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdmRich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume r...@cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Software system design, development, and documentation -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
Well, I did check em but It wasn't clear to me that I could pass a vector; I thought that was only for aliasing. Oh well, it happens I guess :) Thanks again everybody! On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:30:48 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: aaa see? always check the docs first and the sources second (if available)...I should have done that as well :) Jim On 26/03/13 20:28, Ryan wrote: Ah damn, you are right! Sorry if I wasted anyone's time :) At least I learned that apply was the way to go in my original post On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:23:10 PM UTC+2, Cedric Greevey wrote: The docs there seem to imply that fields takes a keyword or a vector, rather than a keyword or keywords. Try just (fields fields-vector), without the apply. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ryan areka...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you guys for your answer. apply was the first thing I used but I got the following error: java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.Keyword cannot be cast to clojure.lang.Associative and i thought i am not going the right way. What i am more specifically trying to do is this: http://sqlkorma.com/docs#select In the link above, the select example takes a (fields ) function so, I made the following wrapper because it was convenient to use in my project: (defn find-one-row [entity fields-vector where-hash-map] (first (select entity (apply fields fields-vector) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 ...but it throws the error i mentioned If i hardcode the fields like this, it works fine: (defn find-one-row [entity where-hash-map] (first (select entity (fields :id) (where where-hash-map) (limit 1 Any ideas? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:51:34 PM UTC+2, Jim foo.bar wrote: On 26/03/13 19:28, Ryan wrote: apply the elements of my vector as arguments to the function you said it yourself in your first post... :) 'apply' is what you're looking for! Jim -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Sweet-expressions
Right now, Clojure is fighting its way to get to Java-like performance
for numerics, and that involves emitting primitive numbers and
operations whenever possible. I'm afraid that would be utterly
incompatible with turning numbers into functions - that would be at
least two levels of indirection (numbers would have to be objects, and
these objects would have to implement IFn).
Nice idea on a conceptual level, though.
On 26 March 2013 18:18, david sheldrick d.j.sheldr...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't like the idea of infix math as a reader macro. Yeah prefix is weird
to read for complex expressions, but in such rare cases there are ordinary
macros that let you do infix math. Use them.
An interesting thought I had the other day regarding infix math:
It would be possible for Clojure to provide it's own implementations of the
basic number classes (Integer, Long, Double, etc) that implement IFn such
that they take a function and another number and apply themselves and the
other number to the function.
Then we could just write (2 + 5).
I imagine this has all kinds of downsides regarding optimisation and what to
do with numbers that get emitted from java code and so forth.
On Monday, 25 March 2013 10:52:23 UTC, poetix wrote:
I really like the look of this:
http://readable.sourceforge.net/
which defines a completely reversible transformation between e.g.
define fibfast(n)
if {n 2}
n
fibup(n 2 1 0)
and
(define (fibfast n)
(if ( n 2)
n
(fibup n 2 1 0)))
and wonder how difficult it would be to support it (or something like it)
in/for Clojure. A coffeescript-like approach might be a good first step.
Any thoughts?
Dominic
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Re: (load hello) can't see hello.clj in the current directory.
try (load-file hello.clj) On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:25:43 AM UTC-7, MC Andre wrote: I tried setting *compile-path* to ., but Clojure still can't find hello.clj. Trace: $ cat hello.clj (ns hello (:gen-class)) (defn -main [ args] (println Hello World!\n)) $ lein repl nREPL server started on port 4902 REPL-y 0.1.0-beta10 Clojure 1.4.0 Exit: Control+D or (exit) or (quit) Commands: (user/help) Docs: (doc function-name-here) (find-doc part-of-name-here) Source: (source function-name-here) (user/sourcery function-name-here) Javadoc: (javadoc java-object-or-class-here) Examples from clojuredocs.org: [clojuredocs or cdoc] (user/clojuredocs name-here) (user/clojuredocs ns-here name-here) user= (load hello) FileNotFoundException Could not locate hello__init.class or hello.clj on classpath: clojure.lang.RT.load (RT.java:432) System: * Leiningen 2.0.0-preview10 * Clojure 1.4.0 * Java Java 1.7.0_17 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM * Windows XP -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: (load hello) can't see hello.clj in the current directory.
I works for me if I run 'lein repl' *outside* of a project. In that case, is on the classpath, so . looks in the current directory. When you run 'lein repl' *inside* of a project, however, the top-level project directory is not on the classpath. . in this case probably means look in the root of all directories on the classpath. (I'm guessing; Java experts speak up.) --Leif On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:25:43 PM UTC-4, MC Andre wrote: I tried setting *compile-path* to ., but Clojure still can't find hello.clj. Trace: $ cat hello.clj (ns hello (:gen-class)) (defn -main [ args] (println Hello World!\n)) $ lein repl nREPL server started on port 4902 REPL-y 0.1.0-beta10 Clojure 1.4.0 Exit: Control+D or (exit) or (quit) Commands: (user/help) Docs: (doc function-name-here) (find-doc part-of-name-here) Source: (source function-name-here) (user/sourcery function-name-here) Javadoc: (javadoc java-object-or-class-here) Examples from clojuredocs.org: [clojuredocs or cdoc] (user/clojuredocs name-here) (user/clojuredocs ns-here name-here) user= (load hello) FileNotFoundException Could not locate hello__init.class or hello.clj on classpath: clojure.lang.RT.load (RT.java:432) System: * Leiningen 2.0.0-preview10 * Clojure 1.4.0 * Java Java 1.7.0_17 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM * Windows XP -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Seeking advice on a safe way to mock/stub fns
Hi, Allen. My own version of with-redefs? That *sounds* kind of hard. Could you keep an atom with the original bound value (the first one my-with-redefs sees, anyway) and then always roll back to that value? Something like that? Thanks, Leif On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:58:53 AM UTC-4, Allen Rohner wrote: I've also run into the problem. You could write your own version of with-redefs (it's not that hard). In your case, it sounds like you're not running tests in parallel in the same process, so could you work around it by waiting for your app to finish initializing before running tests? Allen -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Seeking advice on a safe way to mock/stub fns
Hi, Shantanu. Thanks for the suggestions. A couple thoughts: 1. Many times, I seem to stub or mock things that are scattered here and there in the code, like things that send email or log metrics, etc. so they are not really isolated (or isolatable??), but I still want to test that they get called. 2. So I'm usually mocking utility functions that have side effects. Am I mocking at the right level? 3. For these types of things, even if I make protocols for them, passing them all in as arguments seems like it could get messy fast. E.g. my function used to be (f x), but now it's (f x logger emailer metric-logger ...) 4. I'm not really familiar with the methods you describe, so any elaboration on your comments would be welcome. Or even better, a link to a project that uses the designs you mentioned. Thanks, Leif On Monday, March 25, 2013 5:57:34 AM UTC-4, Shantanu Kumar wrote: On Monday, 25 March 2013 06:45:32 UTC+5:30, Leif wrote: Hello, fellow Clojurians. One problem I've run into when stubbing fns is that with-redefs doesn't play well with concurrency. E.g. http://clojuredocs.org/clojure_core/clojure.core/with-redefs#example_994 The problem arises because, quoting with-redef's docstring, These temporary changes will be visible in all threads. Let's say you're stubbing the fn 'f' with the fn 'stub'. Here is an irritating sequence of events: 1: test1 redefs f to stub, saving the initial fn 2: test2 redefs f to stub, saving **the current value of f, which is stub** 3: test1 completes, resetting f to its initial fn 4: test2 completes, **resetting f to the stub fn** 5: test3 starts, expecting the fn f to work normally, and fails We actually ran into the problem because there was a delay in our app's init fn, and so the first one of our integration tests that ran permanently rewrote some fns. I would imagine that this could even happen in unit tests, though, if your test runner executed tests in parallel. Has anyone run into a similar problem, and come up with a safer way of stubbing / mocking non-dynamic vars? If you could design the code around Primatic's Graph: https://github.com/Prismatic/plumbing it may be cleaner and easier to isolate the dependencies, hence making them easy to mock. Another (lengthier) approach would be to model anything mockable as a protocol, and pass the implementation as function argument. As a bonus, this lets one keep the code mostly unaware of impurity. For production and integration-tests initialize the application at its entry point and instantiate the chain of dependencies, then pass the top level dependencies as function arguments. For unit tests where you need a mock dependency, simply pass a mock implementation of the protocol as a function argument. In cases where the application has several reference types for complex state management, an inside-out design will probably help a lot together with this approach for testing. Shantanu -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apply elements in a vector as arguments to function
2013/3/27 Jim - FooBar(); jimpil1...@gmail.com aaa see? always check the docs first and the sources second (if available)...I should have done that as well :) Definitely don't just check the sources and think it's something normal. Complain loudly to maintainers on this list that their documentation has gaps and they should clarify this and that. The idea that people should read the source to get reasonably straightforward stuff done is wrong and does a lot of long term damage to the community. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
