Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
Jon, What went bang? Have you any idea of what failed? Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 (also has a 4JH-TE) Virginia In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:04:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
Jon, This might sound to easy, but could you have wrapped something around the prop shaft? I had a similar sounding experience when a piece of heavy line wrapped around the shaft. Had to clear it with a dive knife (took about 2 hours, working with a flashlight) then restarted the engine and all was fine. I was bringing the boat up from Florida, and it happened in southern N.C., so I ran it for many hours after without any issues. Bill MYSTY In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:11:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonbooc...@gmail.com writes: loud screeching noise for 1/2 second, followed by a big bang and shudder and engine stopped seems to be seized hard could be transmission let go and then something jammed and instantly stopped the engine, going about 2800 rpm On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, _Briard6@aol.com_ (mailto:bria...@aol.com) wrote: Jon, What went bang? Have you any idea of what failed? Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 (also has a 4JH-TE) Virginia In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:04:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cnc-list@cnc-list.com_ (mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com) writes: The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: _CnC-List@cnc-list.com_ (mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com) To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
Similar problem over weekend. Engine alarm and then shut off. Apaprently engine restarted ok but no more fwsd or reverse. Then the line that had fallen over the side was noticed with one end attached to boat and other wrapped firmly around shaft. Shaft seems pulled back approx. one inch. Transmission seems to be spinning but not shaft. Hope to find out today if simple fix or a time consuming expensive one. Was a lot of pressure on boat end of line so worried also about shaft and strut. Hauling boat to repair. 3GM30 Mike Persistence Frers 33 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:17 AM To: jonbooc...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 Jon, This might sound to easy, but could you have wrapped something around the prop shaft? I had a similar sounding experience when a piece of heavy line wrapped around the shaft. Had to clear it with a dive knife (took about 2 hours, working with a flashlight) then restarted the engine and all was fine. I was bringing the boat up from Florida, and it happened in southern N.C., so I ran it for many hours after without any issues. Bill MYSTY In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:11:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonbooc...@gmail.com writes: loud screeching noise for 1/2 second, followed by a big bang and shudder and engine stopped seems to be seized hard could be transmission let go and then something jammed and instantly stopped the engine, going about 2800 rpm On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, bria...@aol.com wrote: Jon, What went bang? Have you any idea of what failed? Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 (also has a 4JH-TE) Virginia In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:04:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
If this is “Walkie” (his nickname), I can personally vouch for him — he’s by far the best diesel guy on western Lake Superior. He’s worked on my boat, as well as those of many people I know. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
I had the same thing happen a couple of years ago. I was sailing alone and a sheet from the jib got overboard as I was motoring back to my slip. A loud noise ensued and I came to a slow stop with the engine running. The sheet had rolled up the propeller shaft to the hull and in continuing, pulled the shaft free from the rubber coupler that connects the propeller shaft to the transmission. I wouldn't have thought that a single-cylinder Westerbeke gas engine could have been so powerful as to rip up an nine inch diameter, one inch thick rubber coupler without stopping. Not having access to a replacement, I eventually had to construct one out of a polyester-threaded tire tread. Creating the bolt holes was a challenge. It has worked just fine these past three years and I always mind the sheets now. Steve C'est La Vie CC 27 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:42 AM To: bria...@aol.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 Similar problem over weekend. Engine alarm and then shut off. Apaprently engine restarted ok but no more fwsd or reverse. Then the line that had fallen over the side was noticed with one end attached to boat and other wrapped firmly around shaft. Shaft seems pulled back approx. one inch. Transmission seems to be spinning but not shaft. Hope to find out today if simple fix or a time consuming expensive one. Was a lot of pressure on boat end of line so worried also about shaft and strut. Hauling boat to repair. 3GM30 Mike Persistence Frers 33 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:17 AM To: jonbooc...@gmail.commailto:jonbooc...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 Jon, This might sound to easy, but could you have wrapped something around the prop shaft? I had a similar sounding experience when a piece of heavy line wrapped around the shaft. Had to clear it with a dive knife (took about 2 hours, working with a flashlight) then restarted the engine and all was fine. I was bringing the boat up from Florida, and it happened in southern N.C., so I ran it for many hours after without any issues. Bill MYSTY In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:11:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonbooc...@gmail.commailto:jonbooc...@gmail.com writes: loud screeching noise for 1/2 second, followed by a big bang and shudder and engine stopped seems to be seized hard could be transmission let go and then something jammed and instantly stopped the engine, going about 2800 rpm On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, bria...@aol.commailto:bria...@aol.com wrote: Jon, What went bang? Have you any idea of what failed? Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 (also has a 4JH-TE) Virginia In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:04:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List propane
We need to know more about your propane system. Is it the original propane system? How old is the solenoid? Also, how old is the wiring? If it is 30 years old and un-tinned wire--this is a good place to start--it probably should be replaced. I have been in the wiring replacement process for the last 10 years. Just this past summer, I upgraded my propane system and replaced all the old wiring. (This project was explained briefly on my blog on the blog post dated June 23.) I am now dealing with old wiring on my engine gauges... Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days (1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230) email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
Biggest dealer in North East US Mack Boring 2365 US Hwy 22 W Union, NJ 07083 Phone: 908-964-0700 Fax: 908-964-8475 Email: i...@mackboring.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If this is “Walkie” (his nickname), I can personally vouch for him — he’s by far the best diesel guy on western Lake Superior. He’s worked on my boat, as well as those of many people I know. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Companionway hood
A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama CC 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website.___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
Works for me. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Shincke via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Not for me. Using Chrome as my browser on a PC On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Works for me. *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack Shincke via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, September 08, 2014 11:00 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
I just did mine and I confess that I used silicone on the screw threads since I had it out and had been using it to re-mount the teak slide rails to the plexiglass. I don't usually have silicone on the boat because I don't find it very effective, but it was the only thing that would look right in this case. Normally I would use 4200 or 4000uv. In this case the screw penetrations are under the hood and not likely to get hit with a lot of water anyway, so I figured it would be good enough. I did put a drop of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure on the screw heads, as I have found that stuff to help with window leaks, and deck leaks in general. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama CC 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
I don't get an error message, all I get is a blank white page. - Firefox on a pc. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Jack Shincke via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
Use a cone shaped grinding stone to chamfer the holes and and seal with LifeSeal by Life Products. No need the seal the hood. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama CC 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
My dodger maker swears by butyl tape. I'm intimidated by it, but we'll see. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2014 12:05 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just did mine and I confess that I used silicone on the screw threads since I had it out and had been using it to re-mount the teak slide rails to the plexiglass. I don't usually have silicone on the boat because I don't find it very effective, but it was the only thing that would look right in this case. Normally I would use 4200 or 4000uv. In this case the screw penetrations are under the hood and not likely to get hit with a lot of water anyway, so I figured it would be good enough. I did put a drop of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure on the screw heads, as I have found that stuff to help with window leaks, and deck leaks in general. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama CC 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Works for me, too using chrome on a PC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:54 AM To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Not for me. Using Chrome as my browser on a PC On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Works for me. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Shincke via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
I was looking at a potential rebuild and talked to your guy Al. If/when I have to rebuild/replace this will be the guy I use. Rebedding a different engine can cost as much as the engine itself. He will rebuild yours (4 weeks) or sell you one of his...if he has one ($5700 + core). You'll be hard pressed to find a better price new or used. http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/search/engine_details.cfm Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2014 9:04 AM, Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
Mike, Be sure to check your prop strut. Years ago a rope got wrapped in the prop of a CC 36 I had in timeshare charter. It also shut off the engine then allowed a re-start (as reported by the charterer). When hauled it was obvious the force caused the strut to bend about 15 degrees. Shaft was also bent. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:42 AM To: bria...@aol.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 Similar problem over weekend. Engine alarm and then shut off. Apaprently engine restarted ok but no more fwsd or reverse. Then the line that had fallen over the side was noticed with one end attached to boat and other wrapped firmly around shaft. Shaft seems pulled back approx. one inch. Transmission seems to be spinning but not shaft. Hope to find out today if simple fix or a time consuming expensive one. Was a lot of pressure on boat end of line so worried also about shaft and strut. Hauling boat to repair. 3GM30 Mike Persistence Frers 33 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:17 AM To: jonbooc...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 Jon, This might sound to easy, but could you have wrapped something around the prop shaft? I had a similar sounding experience when a piece of heavy line wrapped around the shaft. Had to clear it with a dive knife (took about 2 hours, working with a flashlight) then restarted the engine and all was fine. I was bringing the boat up from Florida, and it happened in southern N.C., so I ran it for many hours after without any issues. Bill MYSTY In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:11:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonbooc...@gmail.commailto:jonbooc...@gmail.com writes: loud screeching noise for 1/2 second, followed by a big bang and shudder and engine stopped seems to be seized hard could be transmission let go and then something jammed and instantly stopped the engine, going about 2800 rpm On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, bria...@aol.commailto:bria...@aol.com wrote: Jon, What went bang? Have you any idea of what failed? Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 (also has a 4JH-TE) Virginia In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:04:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
Using IE11 I get: This content cannot be displayed in a frame Following the link below that message takes me to a web page vendor. Been like that for months. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Shincke via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
Jonathan, When we replaced Perceptions Engine, we bought a Beta engine – imported it from England – saved over the Yanmar, and can now use Kubota parts! It was Yanmars Canadian pricing that caused us to look at other options – the parts to rebuild were 2/3rds of the price of the beta – without touching the transmission, starting system, alternator, cooling system …… Paul Fountain . From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44
I re-powered my prior boat with a Beta too. Great maintenance configuration. Loved the engine. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: jonbooc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:04:36 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Jonathan, When we replaced Perceptions Engine, we bought a Beta engine – imported it from England – saved over the Yanmar, and can now use Kubota parts! It was Yanmars Canadian pricing that caused us to look at other options – the parts to rebuild were 2/3rds of the price of the beta – without touching the transmission, starting system, alternator, cooling system …… Paul Fountain . From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44 The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point. I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a quote from a Canadian dealer. Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a complete engine from them? Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various Yanmar models? (4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5) If so this could open up the number of potential replacements. For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly recommended. Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower. Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy) Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
Working for me - Windows 8.1 with IE 11 Paul Fountain From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Shincke via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 11:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
I m using Chrome and it works fine for me. Gary S/V Expresso ~~~_/)~~ On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Not for me. Using Chrome as my browser on a PC On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Works for me. *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack Shincke via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, September 08, 2014 11:00 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site Is the forum on the C and C photoalbum site still working. Every time I've tried to open it on either computer that I have I get get this message that it will not open on this website. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Companionway hood
I am planning to remove my companionway hood and check for leaks later this Fall. Leaks into the hood are not an issue but I think the screws that fasten the hood simply screw into the outer layer of fiberglass and penetrate into the balsa core (like many other original fastenings). I will most likely remove a little core in the area of the screws and check it for water. I will probably drill out the holes to a bigger size (like 3/4-inch) and then fill them with thickened epoxy. After the epoxy hardens, I will use a suitably sized pilot hole so the screws have something to bite into. Even if it's not leaking into the core now, if you've gone to all the trouble of removing the hood, why not fix it so it will never leak? In this case, there wouldn't be much of a need for any sealant. In driving rains, I am getting a leak that exits near the companionway steps--I think the companionway hood is the likely entrance for the water (unless it is simply coming in at the companionway door). If this is the case (which I don't know for sure yet) my balsa core is probably wet in the area. We'll see... Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
After repairing hundreds of holes in Calypso’s balsa cored deck, including 2 or 3 long gone versions of companionway hoods and dodgers I strongly second the motion to drill/fill with epoxy, re-drill then seal under the screw. Anything less runs the risk of water eventually seeping into the balsa. Small amounts of water degrading the balsa around a few screws will not compromise the deck strength but once enough water starts to flow “downhill” and work its way to a low spot the potential repair area expands significantly. If time does not allow the full meal deal, using a low viscosity epoxy, paint, or other coating will help. I have not used any of the “creeping crack repair/sealer” type products but have heard from people walking the dock past Calypso as we work on the deck of it being used to seal balsa. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:23 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood I am planning to remove my companionway hood and check for leaks later this Fall. Leaks into the hood are not an issue but I think the screws that fasten the hood simply screw into the outer layer of fiberglass and penetrate into the balsa core (like many other original fastenings). I will most likely remove a little core in the area of the screws and check it for water. I will probably drill out the holes to a bigger size (like 3/4-inch) and then fill them with thickened epoxy. After the epoxy hardens, I will use a suitably sized pilot hole so the screws have something to bite into. Even if it's not leaking into the core now, if you've gone to all the trouble of removing the hood, why not fix it so it will never leak? In this case, there wouldn't be much of a need for any sealant. In driving rains, I am getting a leak that exits near the companionway steps--I think the companionway hood is the likely entrance for the water (unless it is simply coming in at the companionway door). If this is the case (which I don't know for sure yet) my balsa core is probably wet in the area. We'll see... Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.commailto:dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.comhttp://dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Dodger install on a 27 MKIII
So I got a good deal on a used dodger, and now I have to install it. Never having done this before I am a little intimidated at the prospect of drilling another 25 holes in the deck and maybe not getting them in the right place the first time. Anyone have any experience that they would like to share along this line? The canvas is secured to the deck with lift the dot fasteners. The traveller is on the bridge deck, so that limits how far back I can mount the dodger, so getting the bow mounts positioned is the first thing, but even that raises questions. How much back angle on the bow? Will this become apparent if I put the canvas on it? It is a Natty dodger, with one main bow, and one daughter bow mounted to the main on slides. Any helpful advice, or a pointer to procedural methods would be appreciated. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Dodger install on a 27 MKIII
Hi, I have a Natty dodger ( and bimini ) that I bought from Genco a couple of years ago, installed it myself with the help of the installation sheet that came with it . I also bought the aft-welded handrail and side rails ( basically stainless handles ). Very nice to have something to hold on when leaving/entering the cockpit.. Even if the sheet was pretty clear, I ended up drilling the swivel holes on a different location than the instructions said . Maybe you can write to Jonathan Genco and he can fax you the instructions for a CC27 or I can take pictures this week-end . I wrapped each lift the dot screw with butyl, I did not have the time to do the drill-fill-drill epoxy recipe as I usually does though. Sylvain CC27 MkIII From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:10 PM Subject: Stus-List Dodger install on a 27 MKIII So I got a good deal on a used dodger, and now I have to install it. Never having done this before I am a little intimidated at the prospect of drilling another 25 holes in the deck and maybe not getting them in the right place the first time. Anyone have any experience that they would like to share along this line? The canvas is secured to the deck with lift the dot fasteners. The traveller is on the bridge deck, so that limits how far back I can mount the dodger, so getting the bow mounts positioned is the first thing, but even that raises questions. How much back angle on the bow? Will this become apparent if I put the canvas on it? It is a Natty dodger, with one main bow, and one daughter bow mounted to the main on slides. Any helpful advice, or a pointer to procedural methods would be appreciated. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
Bob: Assuming that the hood is similar to my 38MKII.some thoughts on the process might be useful to you. I've replaced the sliding Plexiglas 3 times since I've owned the boat (15 years)During the middle replacement, I decided to completely remove the sliding components and made new teak ones but in the process, I noted that since the boat seems to sit bow down a little (so it sails flat when crew is in the cockpit), I was collecting lots of water and finally rotted stuff in the small space ahead of the slide. That space holds about a half gallon of water and over time it just gets gray and messy. Since you will have the hood off, and since your headliner is easily accessible, consider this.I drilled out the forward corners of that space and led a flared stainless tube down to connect with some Tygon tubing and then out of the cabin side just forward of the windowsThe exit hole is about a1/4 and is cut at the same anagle as the cabin sides so it doesn't show. All of the tubing is hidden by the headliner panels... That area is now always dry and since there's a way out, I haven't had any concern for over 5 years. Every spring, I run a wire snake up from the side to clear anything that has plugged the holes and never found anything of substance. Your leak at the corners of the companionway is likely caused by the aging of the sealant used in making that teak frame for the drop boards.I had mine taken off this year and there was hardly anything behind it. So we fabricated new ones from Starboard (seafoam matches our decks) and really sealed the whole thing with sealant. Been in for 4 months now and never a drop .since the bow down angle of the boat at rest collects water up front, when you get in the cockpit, it drains backward out of the trough at each side of the sliding part of the hatch and down onto the bridge deck seat.before it used to collect at the base of the drop board and then into the spaces on either side that were unsealed. Maybe the job should be expanded to take care of your current problem and any future issues than can come up ..doing it now prevents you from doing it again... Best, Ron C. Impromptu CC 38MKIIC..'77 _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood I am planning to remove my companionway hood and check for leaks later this Fall. Leaks into the hood are not an issue but I think the screws that fasten the hood simply screw into the outer layer of fiberglass and penetrate into the balsa core (like many other original fastenings). I will most likely remove a little core in the area of the screws and check it for water. I will probably drill out the holes to a bigger size (like 3/4-inch) and then fill them with thickened epoxy. After the epoxy hardens, I will use a suitably sized pilot hole so the screws have something to bite into. Even if it's not leaking into the core now, if you've gone to all the trouble of removing the hood, why not fix it so it will never leak? In this case, there wouldn't be much of a need for any sealant. In driving rains, I am getting a leak that exits near the companionway steps--I think the companionway hood is the likely entrance for the water (unless it is simply coming in at the companionway door). If this is the case (which I don't know for sure yet) my balsa core is probably wet in the area. We'll see... Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ Gary S/V Expresso ~~~_/)~~ On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
The form is not used... They use this e-mail system instead of it. Never really understood it . Would be a better format. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ Gary S/V Expresso ~~~_/)~~ On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* *Port Royal,* *South Carolina* *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
On the phot album home page, just below the Search the Archives link and above the We are associated with icons, is the Join Our Forum. When I click on the link, I get a message saying the information cannot be displayed in a frame, and click to display it in a new tab. Clicking takes me to a web hosting site. Someone else said they had this result. I'm using Windows 7 and IE11. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 3:01 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
The button on the website for me. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
I tried the button on the main page and the button on the left menu bar with the same results, the main frame goes blank. I get the little hand pointer on all the other buttons except the Forum one. Windows 7 Firefox 32.0 Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: September-08-14 16:01 To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8169 - Release Date: 09/07/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
I just hit the forum button at the website as well. On Monday, September 8, 2014 12:01 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Stereo finally works
After three years my stereo is fully functional. I replaced the old stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat. One of the 2 interior speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker wire was to corroded to carry a signal. Initially, I replaced most of the wire with household wire. DONT USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE. That lasted about a season. I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire. Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work. Turns out someone twisted and taped the connections. New crimp connectors fixed them. Finally, 4 working speakers! Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works
One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice ). Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-) Sylvain CC27MkIII From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works After three years my stereo is fully functional. I replaced the old stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat. One of the 2 interior speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker wire was to corroded to carry a signal. Initially, I replaced most of the wire with household wire. DONT USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE. That lasted about a season. I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire. Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work. Turns out someone twisted and taped the connections. New crimp connectors fixed them. Finally, 4 working speakers! Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works
Joel, I’ve had Poly Planar speakers inside my cabin for a long time. They work well and came with the boat. I installed Bose 131 speakers in the cockpit, but after a number of years one of them quit working. Corrosion ate through one of the leads to the voice coil. Bose offered to repair it for $50 or $75, but I opted for a new set of Poly Planar Platinum speakers. They look good , fit the old holes, and sound great. Actually, I had to enlarge the holes slightly, but it wasn’t a bit job. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works After three years my stereo is fully functional. I replaced the old stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat. One of the 2 interior speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker wire was to corroded to carry a signal. Initially, I replaced most of the wire with household wire. DONT USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE. That lasted about a season. I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire. Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work. Turns out someone twisted and taped the connections. New crimp connectors fixed them. Finally, 4 working speakers! Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works
8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging configuration. Rich On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice ). Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-) Sylvain CC27MkIII From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works After three years my stereo is fully functional. I replaced the old stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat. One of the 2 interior speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker wire was to corroded to carry a signal. Initially, I replaced most of the wire with household wire. DONT USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE. That lasted about a season. I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire. Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work. Turns out someone twisted and taped the connections. New crimp connectors fixed them. Finally, 4 working speakers! Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site
Just for the fun of it, I tried it with FireFox (31.0 and 32.0), Chrome 37.0 and IE 11. IE shows an error message (not being able to display content in a frame); other browsers show blank page. All under Win 7. Btw. I would swear that I saw a Forum button on the left side margin (among all the buttons) this afternoon (around 15:00), when all these messages started to show up. It is not there anymore. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Taillieu via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 4:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site I tried the button on the main page and the button on the left menu bar with the same results, the main frame goes blank. I get the little hand pointer on all the other buttons except the Forum one. Windows 7 Firefox 32.0 Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: September-08-14 16:01 To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site What link are you guys using for the Forum? Stu _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8169 - Release Date: 09/07/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
If you are looking for the source, here they are. I bought mine from Compass Marine. It seems that the other one can sell smaller quantities. There is a downside to it: if you want it shipped to Canada, the cost is about the same as the tape (around $30). It is worth its while to order more (cost of shipping is the same) and share. Btw. I can share one roll at cost (and it is already on the Canadian side of the border). Btw2. No association with either of them, but supposedly this is the best butyl tape around. Bed-It Tape - Compass Marine http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape Bed-It Tape - Hamilton Marine http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/butyl-tape-bed-it-1-2-x-50-roll-7 55207-/4,59595.html Marek -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 7:55 PM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Companionway hood Mike, I used butyl tape when I replaced my companionway hatch. It is foolproof stuff to work with and seals great. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Crombie via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama CC 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
Hi I am interested in at least one roll, perhaps 3, if long term storage is not a problem. Don Oakville On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If you are looking for the source, here they are. I bought mine from Compass Marine. It seems that the other one can sell smaller quantities. There is a downside to it: if you want it shipped to Canada, the cost is about the same as the tape (around $30). It is worth its while to order more (cost of shipping is the same) and share. Btw. I can share one roll at cost (and it is already on the Canadian side of the border). Btw2. No association with either of them, but supposedly this is the best butyl tape around. Bed-It Tape - Compass Marine http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape Bed-It Tape - Hamilton Marine http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/butyl-tape-bed-it-1-2-x-50-roll-7 55207-/4,59595.html Marek -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 7:55 PM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Companionway hood Mike, I used butyl tape when I replaced my companionway hatch. It is foolproof stuff to work with and seals great. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Crombie via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama CC 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
