Re: Stus-List Traveler components

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased.   Jerry C&C27V J&J.
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List 
To: 'Paul Fountain' ; cnc-list 
Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components



Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. 
 
I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my 
old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with 
no new holes to drill. 
 
The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased 
mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest 
sum.
 
Kirk Sneddon
C&C 29 MK II
Flying Cloud
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
Fountain via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
To: Marek Dziedzic; 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

 

Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!

Paul. :) 

 



On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
 wrote:



I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.

 

Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are 
supposedly really good.

 

Marek


 


From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 

Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM

To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components


 





Burt,

You should have several options.  

You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may be 
able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.

I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is 
between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That 
would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.

Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman or a 
Schaefer.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA


 

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on 
Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground 
tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. 
Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable 
considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard 
the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The 
broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is 
used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a 
nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t 
find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed 
it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 
arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the 
eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 
stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary 
solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or 
am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car?
 
1974 33 ¾ tonner
Portsmouth, RI   
 
bstrat...@falconnect.com
 


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Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

That reminds me.  I replaced the spring type vang that was on my 34/36 when I 
bought it with a Garhauer rigid vang (much much better) and so I have the old 
one in my shed.  Does anyone want it?  Dave

On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
 wrote:

> I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased.   Jerry C&C27V J&J.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List 
> To: 'Paul Fountain' ; cnc-list 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
> 
> Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer.
>  
> I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my 
> old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with 
> no new holes to drill.
>  
> The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased 
> mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for 
> modest sum.
>  
> Kirk Sneddon
> C&C 29 MK II
> Flying Cloud
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
> Fountain via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
> To: Marek Dziedzic; 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>  
> Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!
> 
> Paul. :)
>  
> 
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.
>  
> Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars 
> are supposedly really good.
>  
> Marek
>  
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM
> To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>  
> Burt,
> You should have several options.  
> 
> You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may be 
> able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.
> I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is 
> between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That 
> would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.
> Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman or a 
> Schaefer.
>  
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>  
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on 
> Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground 
> tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank 
> you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable 
> considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard 
> the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. 
> The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car 
> that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is 
> secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or 
> hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like 
> mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very 
> simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The 
> hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended 
> up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is 
> definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have 
> the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks 
> and car?
>  
> 1974 33 ¾ tonner
> Portsmouth, RI  
>  
> bstrat...@falconnect.com
>  
> 
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Stus-List Rain inside mast?

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I have never had any significant leakage that runs down my mast in the 28 years 
that I have owned my boat.  Occasionally, I have some small leaks in a heavy 
downpour.  When you think about it, the opening for halyard exits are downward 
and not much rain water can get in at that point.  I would think that if you 
can actually hear a stream of water running down the inside of your mast, there 
must be a major (and unusual) hole somewhere on your mast.  I doubt that you 
could hear a stream of water coming from the normal small sources of leakage on 
your mast, unless you have many more holes than a normal boat--Do you have mast 
steps?

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
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Re: Stus-List Traveler components

[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

I really have no issues with my traveler except the attachment point for the 
mainsheet block. It is a 4:1 with dual end sheaves. I lubricated the captive 
track rollers and sheaves when I had it apart. It adjusts easily under a load. 
The adjusting line is continuous. I think the correct size stainless eye bolt 
will fill the bill and keep my hard earned $$ in my pocket to be used for more 
pressing things like a new AC electrical system and an isolated starting 
battery, new house bank batteries and a 2-bank charger.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam Salter 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:04 AM
To: CnC
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

 

‎As an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago. 

The track has a "T" slot on the bottom so the bolts slide into any position and 
use the existing holes from the original setup.

High quality, possibly a bit more expensive than Garhauer, adjusts under load, 
a great improvement over the original equipment. 

 

sam :-)

C&C 26 Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 


From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM

To: 'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: kirk sneddon

Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

 

Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. 

 

I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my 
old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with 
no new holes to drill. 

 

The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased 
mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest 
sum.

 

Kirk Sneddon

C&C 29 MK II

Flying Cloud

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
Fountain via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
To: Marek Dziedzic; 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

 

Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!

Paul. :) 

 


On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.

 

Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are 
supposedly really good.

 

Marek

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List   

Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM

To: Burt Stratton   ; CnClist 
  

Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

 

Burt,

You should have several options.  

You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may be 
able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.

I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is 
between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That 
would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.

Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman or a 
Schaefer.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on 
Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground 
tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. 
Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable 
considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard 
the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The 
broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is 
used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a 
nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t 
find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed 
it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 
arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the 
eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 
stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary 
solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or 
am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car?

 

1974 33 ¾ tonner

Portsmouth, RI   

 

bstrat...@falconnect.com

 


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Re: Stus-List Traveler components

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Burt,

If you replace the attachment fitting, consider one with a shoulder.  A
simple eye bolt may not be able to withstand as much side load as a
shouldered eye bolt or eve nut.

>From what you've described, there is some clearance on the underside of the
car.  Perhaps an eye nut bolted from underneath may work.  Look at this
item:

<
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=36382&engine=adwords!6456&keyword=product_ad&gclid=CLz8pKyG5sACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ
>

It comes in 1/4 (400 lbs SWL), 5/16 (800 lbs SWL), 3/8 inch (1320 lbs
SWL).  I have one of these and its eye bolt equivalent in 1/2 inch
installed in Touche' masthead for attaching spinnaker halyard blocks.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I really have no issues with my traveler except the attachment point for
> the mainsheet block. It is a 4:1 with dual end sheaves. I lubricated the
> captive track rollers and sheaves when I had it apart. It adjusts easily
> under a load. The adjusting line is continuous. I think the correct size
> stainless eye bolt will fill the bill and keep my hard earned $$ in my
> pocket to be used for more pressing things like a new AC electrical system
> and an isolated starting battery, new house bank batteries and a 2-bank
> charger.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam
> Salter via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:04 AM
> *To:* CnC
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>
>
> ‎As an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago.
>
> The track has a "T" slot on the bottom so the bolts slide into any
> position and use the existing holes from the original setup.
>
> High quality, possibly a bit more expensive than Garhauer, adjusts under
> load, a great improvement over the original equipment.
>
>
>
> sam :-)
>
> C&C 26 Liquorice
>
> Ghost Lake Alberta
>
>
>
> *From: *kirk sneddon via CnC-List
>
> *Sent: *Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM
>
> *To: *'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Reply To: *kirk sneddon
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>
>
> Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer.
>
>
>
> I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them
> my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy
> with no new holes to drill.
>
>
>
> The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased
> mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for
> modest sum.
>
>
>
> Kirk Sneddon
>
> C&C 29 MK II
>
> Flying Cloud
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Paul Fountain via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
> *To:* Marek Dziedzic; 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>
>
> Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!
>
> Paul. :)
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.
>
>
>
> Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new
> cars are supposedly really good.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM
>
> *To:* Burt Stratton  ; CnClist
> 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>
>
> Burt,
>
> You should have several options.
>
> You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may
> be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.
>
> I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is
> between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That
> would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.
>
> Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman or
> a Schaefer.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on
> Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and
> ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine,
> thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very
> enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about
> life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke
> over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the
> center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes
> through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this
> is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs
> that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else
> on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement 

Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

David,

I'm guessing the original is a Hall Spars vang.  They still sell the same
one!
Just curious - why is the Garhauer better?

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That reminds me.  I replaced the spring type vang that was on my 34/36
> when I bought it with a Garhauer rigid vang (much much better) and so I
> have the old one in my shed.  Does anyone want it?  Dave
>
> On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased.   Jerry C&C27V J&J.
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List 
> To: 'Paul Fountain' ; cnc-list 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>   Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer.
>
> I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them
> my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy
> with no new holes to drill.
>
> The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased
> mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for
> modest sum.
>
> Kirk Sneddon
> C&C 29 MK II
> Flying Cloud
>
>  *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Paul Fountain via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
> *To:* Marek Dziedzic; 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>  Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!
>
> Paul. :)
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>   I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.
>
>  Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new
> cars are supposedly really good.
>
>  Marek
>
>   *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>  *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM
>  *To:* Burt Stratton  ; CnClist
> 
>  *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>
>  Burt,
>  You should have several options.
>
> You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may
> be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.
>  I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is
> between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That
> would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.
>  Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman
> or a Schaefer.
>
>  Dennis C.
>  Touche' 35-1 #83
>  Mandeville, LA
>
>  On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>  Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on
> Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and
> ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine,
> thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very
> enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about
> life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke
> over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the
> center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes
> through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this
> is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs
> that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else
> on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers
> that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like
> it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a
> close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone
> have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a
> new traveler track, ends, blocks and car?
>
> 1974 33 ¾ tonner
> Portsmouth, RI
>
> bstrat...@falconnect.com
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I don’t know if they are “better”, but they are very reasonably priced and have 
very good products. not to mention that since they are a small shop, you can 
talk to them and get semi-custom solutions at the same price as what is in 
their catalogue.

On top of that it seems that they do sail themselves; or at least know what 
they are talking about.

Btw. some of the high-end stuff (some of the very lightweight blocks, as an 
example) is probably much better somewhere else. Garhauer stuff is very good, 
but it is not bleeding edge.

A disclaimer: I have no involvement with them, but I have bought a number of 
blocks from them (lately, a great 3:1/6:1 mainsheet fiddle block arrangement).

just my $0.02 (CAD)

Marek

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:43 AM
To: David Knecht ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement

David, 

I'm guessing the original is a Hall Spars vang.  They still sell the same one!
Just curious - why is the Garhauer better?

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  That reminds me.  I replaced the spring type vang that was on my 34/36 when I 
bought it with a Garhauer rigid vang (much much better) and so I have the old 
one in my shed.  Does anyone want it?  Dave 

  On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased.   Jerry C&C27V J&J.   
  



-Original Message-
From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List 
To: 'Paul Fountain' ; cnc-list 
Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components


Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. 

I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them 
my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy 
with no new holes to drill. 

The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased 
mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest 
sum.

Kirk Sneddon
C&C 29 MK II
Flying Cloud

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com?] On Behalf Of Paul 
Fountain via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
To: Marek Dziedzic; 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!

Paul. :) 


On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
 wrote:
  I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.

  Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new 
cars are supposedly really good.

  Marek

  From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
  Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM
  To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components

  Burt,
  You should have several options.  

  You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may 
be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.
  I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is 
between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That 
would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.
  Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman 
or a Schaefer.

  Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

  On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
 wrote:
  Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on 
Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground 
tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. 
Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable 
considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard 
the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The 
broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is 
used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a 
nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t 
find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed 
it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 
arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the 
eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 
stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary 
solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or 
am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car?

  1974 33 ¾ tonner
  Portsmouth, RI   

  bstrat...@falconnect.com


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Stus-List Yanmar push button died

[Nate Flesness via CnC-List]

I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button
has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it
- anyone remember, or have another suggestion?

Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 30-1
Siskiwit Bay Marina
Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition 
if catch my drift...

Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch 
and if so, you can have it.

Dave
1982 C&C 37 -Ronin

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> On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has 
> failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - 
> anyone remember, or have another suggestion?
> 
> Nate
> Sarah Jean
> 1980 30-1
> Siskiwit Bay Marina
> Lake Superior
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Stus-List Landfall 38

[Berry Fox via CnC-List]

Hi, I'm seriously considering a LF38.  I'm looking for a performance cruiser 
but also want to race.  The LF38 looks like a great choice but I'm wondering 
about how it sails. I read through the archives and see that several of you 
racecan you give me any insights into how your boats perform?  What do they 
rate in your area and how do they sail to the rating?  How well do they point?  
Any other insights are appreciated.  Thanks in advance,

Dan

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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

My opinion is that the 37+ is a better choice...that's why I bought one.
The LF38 usually rates ~140 and the 37+ is ~75.  The trouble with low
ratings is that you have to be a good enough sailor to sail to them.  Every
second counts and every mistake can cost you the race.  I had my ass handed
to me in a friendly race by a Pearson 32.  They rated 168.  It was mostly a
down wind run and they chose a less down wind angle.  I doesn't hurt that
they have a kevlar sail and hard bottom paint polished to 1000 grit.

As for pointing the 37+ can point very high and even power through a
pinch.  It is easy to accidentally pinch up because the boat doesn't realy
talk back very much.

The C&C 30, the C&C 34+, the C&C 36+ and the C&C 37+ are all very similar
layout and design.  The C&C 40 seems to be the predecessor to the 37+ and
the C&C 121 is the successor.

Good luck,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Sep 16, 2014 9:41 PM, "Berry Fox via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi, I'm seriously considering a LF38.  I'm looking for a performance
> cruiser but also want to race.  The LF38 looks like a great choice but I'm
> wondering about how it sails. I read through the archives and see that
> several of you racecan you give me any insights into how your boats
> perform?  What do they rate in your area and how do they sail to the
> rating?  How well do they point?  Any other insights are appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dan
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