Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Thanks everyone for confirming that I m not doing any harm. The boat sails
well with just the 135 even upwind. I may sail that way more often!

Joel

On Friday, September 19, 2014, David Donnelly via CnC-List 
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  I often sail with a single sail with my wife on board. She likes
 everything about sailing except the sailing (heeling) so I like to keep it
 relatively calm if the wind is over 10 kts. If the wind is up and direction
 favors reaching most of the day I only use the main, but if the wind is
 light and we have to point at all we use the genoa. I also sail on and off
 my mooring ball quite a bit and usually do my final approach under main
 alone. I find the main to be a fair bit slower but as I am alone most of
 the time on my boat it isn't in my way or need furling when I have to walk
 foward to grab my mooring lines.

 On my 26 the real power comes off the genoa but I suspect most boats are
 that way.

 I never really gave much thought to stressing the rig and I haven't
 observed anything unusual. We sail on a lake and dont have the rough water
 that coastal sailors have.

 David Donnelly
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Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
David, 
Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a 
sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans. 
And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a 
narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife anxiety 
or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks to go 
somewhere for a swim. 

I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is very 
similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty 
five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful country of 
Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland while the wives 
went touring by car through France. I noticed most sailboat crews were guys, 
many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples and the same number 
of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I had a great time sailing whenever 
possible and remarked several times when the boat was making 8 to 9 knots and 
heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, The girls would hate this. One 
leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind 
making 9 knots boatspeed. On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. 
Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we 
motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she 
maintained momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w 
the vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no 
traveller. The girls would have hated it. 

So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. 


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Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-20 Thread LKL Architects via CnC-List
Have enjoyed these posts.  I too on occasion sail with just the jib.  I did not 
see it mentioned, but I understand there is a term for sailing only the jib and 
it is sometime referred to as Brazilian sailing.

Lloyd Lippe
Finesse
Landfall 39
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  To: David Donnelly ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone


  Thanks everyone for confirming that I m not doing any harm. The boat sails 
well with just the 135 even upwind. I may sail that way more often!


  Joel

  On Friday, September 19, 2014, David Donnelly via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

I often sail with a single sail with my wife on board. She likes everything 
about sailing except the sailing (heeling) so I like to keep it relatively calm 
if the wind is over 10 kts. If the wind is up and direction favors reaching 
most of the day I only use the main, but if the wind is light and we have to 
point at all we use the genoa. I also sail on and off my mooring ball quite a 
bit and usually do my final approach under main alone. I find the main to be a 
fair bit slower but as I am alone most of the time on my boat it isn't in my 
way or need furling when I have to walk foward to grab my mooring lines. 

On my 26 the real power comes off the genoa but I suspect most boats are 
that way. 

I never really gave much thought to stressing the rig and I haven't 
observed anything unusual. We sail on a lake and dont have the rough water that 
coastal sailors have. 

David Donnelly
CC 26 Mistress


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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
How comfortable is she sailing the boat?  Having sailed with a number of
girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less
concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc.  Have you tried giving her the
wheel?  She can control the heel and you can ease sheets.

FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in
different boats because the wives learned and did more.

Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school?

Joel



On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 David,
 Well said.  I am learning late in life that *many* wives don't appreciate
 when a sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.
 And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking
 through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes
 my wife anxiety or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she
 usually asks to go somewhere for a swim.

 I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is
 very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over
 twenty five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his
 wonderful country of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days
 in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed
 most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white
 haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I
 had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when
 the boat was making  8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were
 having fun, The girls would hate this.  One leg on the North Sea, we
 sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.
 On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose.  Sailing would have taken
 longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed
 main making 8.3 knots.  The main steadied the boat so she maintained
 momentum and sliced better through the waves.  I remember playing w the
 vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no
 traveller.  The girls would have hated it.

 So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.




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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Joanne Dowd via CnC-List
I completely agree with Joel. I am one of those wives who doesn't like a lot 
off boat heel. I recognize that it is completely illogical and I do try to push 
myself. I have found that when the wind picks up I do much much better when I 
am on the helm- that way I can pinch when I feel uncomfortable. My husband is 
also really good about reducing sail when I ask. Having a sense of control 
makes all the difference. 


Joanne  









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How comfortable is she sailing the boat?  Having sailed with a number of 
girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less 
concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc.  Have you tried giving her the 
wheel?  She can control the heel and you can ease sheets.




FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in 
different boats because the wives learned and did more.  




Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school?




Joel






On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:




David,

Well said.  I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a 
sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.  

And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a 
narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife anxiety 
or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks to go 
somewhere for a swim.  





I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is very 
similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty 
five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful country 
of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland while the 
wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed most sailboat crews were 
guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples and the same 
number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I had a great time sailing 
whenever possible and remarked several times when the boat was making  8 to 9 
knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, The girls would hate 
this.  One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 
knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.  On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on 
the nose.  Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, 
so we motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots.  The main steadied the boat 
so she maintained momentum and sliced better through the waves.  I remember 
playing w the vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the 
boat had no traveller.  The girls would have hated it.


 


So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.









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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a smaller, 
but stable boat.  Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 (18ft 
keelboats) transformed my Admiral. 

--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 How comfortable is she sailing the boat?  Having sailed with a number of 
 girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less 
 concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc.  Have you tried giving her the 
 wheel?  She can control the heel and you can ease sheets.
 
 FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in 
 different boats because the wives learned and did more.  
 
 Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school?
 
 Joel
 
 
 
 On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 David,
 Well said.  I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when 
 a sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.  
 And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through 
 a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife 
 anxiety or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks 
 to go somewhere for a swim.  
 
 I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is very 
 similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty 
 five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful 
 country of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland 
 while the wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed most sailboat 
 crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples 
 and the same number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I had a great time 
 sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the boat was 
 making  8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, The 
 girls would hate this.  One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% 
 downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.  On the return, we had 
 18 to 20 knots on the nose.  Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to 
 miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots.  
 The main steadied the boat so she maintained momentum and sliced better 
 through the waves.  I remember playing w the vang to get a better shape to 
 the top of the sail, because the boat had no traveller.  The girls would 
 have hated it.
  
 So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.
 
 
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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Ditto all the other comments.  For my wife, it was lessons with a captain to 
learn docking skills (she almost always docks now), working the main during 
races, and most importantly, a friend who made fun of her one day.  It wasn't 
so funny at the time but certainly motivated her.

20 years and about 10,000 miles later she can more than hold her own against 
experienced sailors.  And yes, she took more than her share of night watches 
offshore.  

Love that woman!

John



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 On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a 
 smaller, but stable boat.  Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 
 (18ft keelboats) transformed my Admiral. 
 
 --
 Jonathan
 Indigo CC 35III
 SOUTHPORT CT
 
 On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 How comfortable is she sailing the boat?  Having sailed with a number of 
 girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less 
 concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc.  Have you tried giving her the 
 wheel?  She can control the heel and you can ease sheets.
 
 FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in 
 different boats because the wives learned and did more.  
 
 Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school?
 
 Joel
 
 
 
 On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 David,
 Well said.  I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate 
 when a sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.  
 And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking 
 through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes 
 my wife anxiety or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she 
 usually asks to go somewhere for a swim.  
 
 I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is very 
 similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty 
 five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful 
 country of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland 
 while the wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed most 
 sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired 
 couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I had a 
 great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the 
 boat was making  8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having 
 fun, The girls would hate this.  One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w 
 just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.  On the 
 return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose.  Sailing would have taken 
 longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed 
 main making 8.3 knots.  The main steadied the boat so she maintained 
 momentum and sliced better through the waves.  I remember playing w the 
 vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no 
 traveller.  The girls would have hated it.
  
 So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.
 
 
 -- 
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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Maybe you're luckier than you think.

One of the first times Deborah and I sailed together I was down at the
navstation figuring out nav stuff.  Deborah was steering and, in a calm,
gentle voice from the helm, asked should the toe rail be under water?  I
shoulda known I was in trouble right then.

A few years ago, we were in the Gulf off Dauphin Island, Alabama .  The
admiral was driving and I was trimming (155% headsail only).  Winds were
mid-teens on the beam.  We were heeled 15-20 degrees.

Deborah had one foot on the cockpit sole and one foot on the coaming.  She
kept watching the knotmeter.  7.6!  Trim!  Trim!  7.8!  Yay! New personal
record.  Trim!  Trim!  8.0!  8 knots!  Awesome.  Trim!  Trim!  We finally
got to 8.5 knots.  Another new personal best for her.  By this time I was
worn out from trimming.

The next day she wanted to race another sailboat up a section of the ICW in
Mississippi Sound.  I was trying to enjoy the cruise and drink coffee.  She
again urged me to trim, trim, trim.

So, be careful what you ask for.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 David,
 Well said.  I am learning late in life that *many* wives don't appreciate
 when a sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.
 And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking
 through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes
 my wife anxiety or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she
 usually asks to go somewhere for a swim.

 I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is
 very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over
 twenty five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his
 wonderful country of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days
 in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed
 most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white
 haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I
 had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when
 the boat was making  8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were
 having fun, The girls would hate this.  One leg on the North Sea, we
 sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.
 On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose.  Sailing would have taken
 longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed
 main making 8.3 knots.  The main steadied the boat so she maintained
 momentum and sliced better through the waves.  I remember playing w the
 vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no
 traveller.  The girls would have hated it.

 So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.



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Stus-List suspect autopilot- RD II

2014-09-20 Thread Kim Brown via CnC-List
Per the crowd view I disconnected the motor and turned things on and the
control heads and other instruments came up fine. Connection seemed fine
without corrosion. Put a meter to the motor lead and hit auto and then a
course change.  Volts came out and nothing popped. Reconnected the lead to
the motor. and engaged the autopilot and it responded appropriately.  Motor
seemed fine. So now the mystery deepens- moisture get in somewhere and short
things out and then dry out? Is this time related - after an hour or so
motor heats up and dies. Motor/ belt unit just binding in a bad spot and
after disconnecting letting sit etc. it is all better? Will not get a chance
to give it a real work out for a couple of weeks. Worrying to have it
randomly dying.  We often use it and a couple of times a year for hours
(think overnight from Key West). Guess we'll see.

Kim
TrustMe!!! 35-3


All,
The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas
about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom
is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the
autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)  except blow the
breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard.
Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
was the 
Thanks
Kim Brown
TrustMe!!! 35-3



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Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot- RD II

2014-09-20 Thread D Harben via CnC-List

A handheld VHF or magnetic knife can put your autopilot into an alcoholic 
stupor as you move around  been there done that one LOL

A treasured sailing knife has been relegated to a mast pouch...

The VHF handheld is in my waist/thigh kit with gps and delorme tracker I 
have been removing the kit as I came aft.  I am sure if there is a non magnetic 
handheld VHF. 

Don

 On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kim Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 Per the crowd view I disconnected the motor and turned things on and the
 control heads and other instruments came up fine. Connection seemed fine
 without corrosion. Put a meter to the motor lead and hit auto and then a
 course change.  Volts came out and nothing popped. Reconnected the lead to
 the motor. and engaged the autopilot and it responded appropriately.  Motor
 seemed fine. So now the mystery deepens- moisture get in somewhere and short
 things out and then dry out? Is this time related - after an hour or so
 motor heats up and dies. Motor/ belt unit just binding in a bad spot and
 after disconnecting letting sit etc. it is all better? Will not get a chance
 to give it a real work out for a couple of weeks. Worrying to have it
 randomly dying.  We often use it and a couple of times a year for hours
 (think overnight from Key West). Guess we'll see.
 
 Kim
 TrustMe!!! 35-3
 
 
 All,
 The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas
 about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
 Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
 to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom
 is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
 getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
 came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the
 autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)  except blow the
 breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
 Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
 event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard.
 Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
 rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
 was the 
 Thanks
 Kim Brown
 TrustMe!!! 35-3
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List
I have been trying to get my wife to take a competent crew course with the 
same instructor I had. She is reluctant to take the helm but will handle 
sheets. She does help with docking when she is aboard too. A couple of 
weeks ago we had a good blow for us with winds steady around 18kts and 
gusting to about 23. We had a long beat and were on port tack for awhile. 
As she wasn't enjoying the cockpit experience she went below and proceeded 
to fall asleep. She is getting better it is only our second year with the 
boat, I have to be patient. We really enjoy the time at anchor I try to do 
more of that the days she is out with me.


I found my youngest son did better when I forced him to take the helm while 
I had my lunch one afternoon. We were sailing up wind and as he had to 
steer to the tell tales he was pretty busy and didn't notice we were 
heeling. So yes the having something to do is good advice.


I think part of my problem is even though I have the most tender of the CC 
family she doesn't have a tendency to round up even when severly pressed. I 
am used to it more than the rest of the family I guess and when I know the 
boat is in that groove I am reluctant to ease the traveller down or let 
main sheet out. Having said that I am often surprised and a little 
perplexed when we speed up with what I think is a large bubble in the 
mainsail


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On September 20, 2014 9:09:37 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
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How comfortable is she sailing the boat?  Having sailed with a number of
girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less
concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc.  Have you tried giving her the
wheel?  She can control the heel and you can ease sheets.

FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in
different boats because the wives learned and did more.

Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school?

Joel



On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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 David,
 Well said.  I am learning late in life that *many* wives don't appreciate
 when a sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.
 And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking
 through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes
 my wife anxiety or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she
 usually asks to go somewhere for a swim.

 I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is
 very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over
 twenty five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his
 wonderful country of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days
 in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed
 most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white
 haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I
 had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when
 the boat was making  8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were
 having fun, The girls would hate this.  One leg on the North Sea, we
 sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.
 On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose.  Sailing would have taken
 longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed
 main making 8.3 knots.  The main steadied the boat so she maintained
 momentum and sliced better through the waves.  I remember playing w the
 vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no
 traveller.  The girls would have hated it.

 So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.




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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video

2014-09-20 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List

Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient.

Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not 
racing anymore.


Say high to Dale for me.

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On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
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Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in 
the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race 
of the season.
This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. 
Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of  7 boats. 
Back to flying sails next year!

https://vimeo.com/106679764

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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video

2014-09-20 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Thanks David. Where is Mistress now?

Brent


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 Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient.
 
 Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not 
 racing anymore.
 
 Say high to Dale for me.
 
 David Donnelly
 CC 26 Mistress
 
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 On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in 
 the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race 
 of the season.
 This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. 
 Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of  7 boats. 
 Back to flying sails next year!
 https://vimeo.com/106679764
 
 Brent Driedger
 CC 27 MkV
 s/v Wild Rover
 Lake Winnipeg
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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video

2014-09-20 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List
Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of 
Edmonton. We are really happy with the boat so far.


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Thanks David. Where is Mistress now?

Brent


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 On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List 
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 Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient.

 Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. 
Not racing anymore.


 Say high to Dale for me.

 David Donnelly
 CC 26 Mistress

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 On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
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 Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still 
in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last 
race of the season.
 This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics 
year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of  7 
boats. Back to flying sails next year!

 https://vimeo.com/106679764

 Brent Driedger
 CC 27 MkV
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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video

2014-09-20 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
I'll forward the message to Dale. He's been tearing ass in the Sonar class and 
doing very well. I think they won the Mb keelboat championships again this year 
on Lake of the Woods racing against two Antrim 27s, J80 and the T10 just to 
name a few. 

Cheers
Brent
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg


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 Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of 
 Edmonton. We are really happy with the boat so far.
 
 David
 
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 On September 20, 2014 7:23:27 PM Brent Driedger bren...@highspeedcrow.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks David. Where is Mistress now?
 
 Brent
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List 
  cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient.
 
  Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not 
  racing anymore.
 
  Say high to Dale for me.
 
  David Donnelly
  CC 26 Mistress
 
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  On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
  cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still 
  in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last 
  race of the season.
  This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. 
  Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of  7 
  boats. Back to flying sails next year!
  https://vimeo.com/106679764
 
  Brent Driedger
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  Lake Winnipeg
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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video

2014-09-20 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Great video, Brent. 

We shot something similar on the Enterprise during some night racing. Here's 
the link: http://youtu.be/2I69h6fwL1E

Just saw several listers at the CC Rendezvous in Newport. Great bunch of 
people. So happy we were able to spend some time with them, even though we came 
by car. 


All the best,

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 On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
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 Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in 
 the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race 
 of the season.
 This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. Our 
 goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of  7 boats. Back 
 to flying sails next year!
 https://vimeo.com/106679764
 
 Brent Driedger
 CC 27 MkV
 s/v Wild Rover
 Lake Winnipeg
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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video (now Lake Wabamun sailing)

2014-09-20 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List
Marek I dont know him personally, and he has that boat on his own mooring 
about mid-lake and is not affiliated with either yacht club. I was parked 
next to him last year at crane out. If I see him this year I will 
definitely say hi for you. We crane out on the 11th of October.


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On September 20, 2014 8:32:23 PM Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote:


David,

I bet you sail with (or at least know) Gary (Meriachee) Hamilton, who sails
a Catalina 270 on the same lake. Say hi to him from me.

Marek (in Ottawa)

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Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of
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 Thanks David. Where is Mistress now?

 Brent


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  On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient.
 
  Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past.
 Not racing anymore.
 
  Say high to Dale for me.
 
  David Donnelly
  CC 26 Mistress
 
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  On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is
  still
 in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our
 last race of the season.
  This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics
 year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet
 of  7 boats. Back to flying sails next year!
  https://vimeo.com/106679764
 
  Brent Driedger
  CC 27 MkV
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  Lake Winnipeg
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