Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
Thats Wild. Just Wild. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 4:01 PM To: schiller; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Michael Brown Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? try this link... https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwhcX19YaPJ8eFpsSTNINWxNZE0 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwhcX19YaPJ8eFpsSTNINWxNZE0usp=sha ring usp=sharing On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:58:53 PM Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote: On New Years Day 2015 we brought Osprey (30-2) back from Hood River, OR (where we spent the Christmas Holiday and weekend) to Portland where she is berthed. It was 14* when we left the dock at 7am (The dock lines were very tough because frozen) and didn't reach above 25* till late afternoon. We had a rollicking sail down the Columbia in 35+knots on the tail. We hit 12.3 knots GPS speed under 100% jib alone! (with some current assist.) The biggest problem was that the water froze solid to about 1/4 thick on the side decks, and the jib sheets were frozen from the few times we dipped the rails in the water. It was a bear to bend them around the winch and the self tailer was worthless. I had two hands on the wheel nearly the entire time, but did manage to grab this shot of one of the buoys. That white stuff is solid ice! The transom photo was taken about 3pm when it finally started to warm up and melt some of the ice gathered along the way. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8QWtlbGE2NzhYRzQ/view?usp=sharin g Cheers, Kevin Osprey 30-2 PDX On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:01:00 PM schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On 1/8/2015 12:31 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill. The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight. I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40. Better so far compared to the Polar Vortex of last year. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:49:58 -0800 From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Message-ID:   1420735798.94360.yahoomailba...@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days.? It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis!? School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com OK, you win. It was only -5 degrees F here with clear skies (until about 1 pm). About 8 inches of snow on the ground with another 6-8 expected this evening into tomorrow. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair in frozen South Haven, Michigan ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
Hi Kevin, Glad I wasn't on that delivery. What's next, the Northwest Passage? Hey, REI sells crampons for the foredeck crew http://www.rei.com/c/crampons?s_kwcid=CRwSgyyu|pcrid|2275095442|pkw|crampons|pmt|bp|bing|main Good luck w the new boat. Nice choice CC model. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: schiller schil...@bloomingdalecom.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 4:01:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? try this link... https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwhcX19YaPJ8eFpsSTNINWxNZE0usp=sharing On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:58:53 PM Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote: On New Years Day 2015 we brought Osprey (30-2) back from Hood River, OR (where we spent the Christmas Holiday and weekend) to Portland where she is berthed. It was 14* when we left the dock at 7am (The dock lines were very tough because frozen) and didn't reach above 25* till late afternoon. We had a rollicking sail down the Columbia in 35+knots on the tail. We hit 12.3 knots GPS speed under 100% jib alone! (with some current assist.) The biggest problem was that the water froze solid to about 1/4 thick on the side decks, and the jib sheets were frozen from the few times we dipped the rails in the water. It was a bear to bend them around the winch and the self tailer was worthless. I had two hands on the wheel nearly the entire time, but did manage to grab this shot of one of the buoys. That white stuff is solid ice! The transom photo was taken about 3pm when it finally started to warm up and melt some of the ice gathered along the way. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8QWtlbGE2NzhYRzQ/view?usp=sharing Cheers, Kevin Osprey 30-2 PDX On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:01:00 PM schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote On 1/8/2015 12:31 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: blockquote Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill. The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight. I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40. Better so far compared to the Polar Vortex of last year. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 blockquote Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:49:58 -0800 From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Message-ID: 1420735798.94360. yahoomailba...@web122905.mail. ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 -- -- On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days.? It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis!? School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 __ _ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/ listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com /blockquote OK, you win. It was only -5 degrees F here with clear skies (until about 1 pm). About 8 inches of snow on the ground with another 6-8 expected this evening into tomorrow. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair in frozen South Haven, Michigan __ _ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/ li stinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com /blockquote /blockquote ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address:
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
It went down to 14 F last night in the Atlanta area. That's in pretty sharp contrast with the 65 or so we had this past weekend. A couple days ago one of the members of my club posted that 2 local boats sunk last year due to engine / trans casings cracking from freezing and subsequent flooding caused by open seacocks.. Today I had some time so I decided to go down and take some temperature readings on the engine block, hoses, and such with my infrared pyrometer while it was still cold outside.. That was an eye opener: outside temp: 18 , cabin temp 46 or so, Hull temp 40 (Still in the water), engine block / hoses / transmission case temp: 32.. Too close for comfort. I looked everywhere, everything seems fine but I definitely changed the heaters setup. Instead of having both in the main cabin with one set to really low temp / act as a backup they are now both set for about 55 degrees / high speed fan with one in the aft cabin blowing into the engine compartment. I use Caframo True North heaters and yes, all seacocks are closed (I always close them when leaving the boat) Stay Warm ! -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Life rafts
Hi All, Here's a cold day topic ... I am aiming to compete in the 2015 Bermuda 1-2 race in my vintage CC 33-1. (my boat won't be the only old CC). My pretentions are modest -- think Eddie the Eagle rather than Moitessier, but I have sailed to Bermuda and back several times and I have done the offshore qualifying run (several times as it turns out) in my own boat. I am now prepping the boat (new sails, replacing Rod, optimizing autopilot, increasing solar capacity) and acquiring the race-required safety equipment. The most challenging and difficult-to-swallow part of this is the cost of an offshore life raft. Rental rates are impossible: $1200/ for 7-14 days and I would need at least three weeks since the return race starts two weeks after the outbound leg. The purchase cost of a raft ($2200 plus ongoing recertification costs) is hard to rationalize for a single race especially when the boat is only typically used for coastal sailing but I'll swallow it if I have to. However, if there is anyone out there in CC-land with a raft that needs re-certification, I would be happy to have that done in return for the use (ummm, hopefully not) of the raft during the month of June. This will likely be the first of many questions as I prep for the race in the coming months. Keep warm! David ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill. The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight. I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40. Better so far compared to the Polar Vortex of last year. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:49:58 -0800 From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Message-ID: 1420735798.94360.yahoomailba...@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days.? It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis!? School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Life rafts
I'll jump on that offer! You may want to check the cost of re certifying a Winslow 6 man offshore before offering! Feel free to contact me off list. I'm in NJ John Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:20 PM, David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a cold day topic ... I am aiming to compete in the 2015 Bermuda 1-2 race in my vintage CC 33-1. (my boat won't be the only old CC). My pretentions are modest -- think Eddie the Eagle rather than Moitessier, but I have sailed to Bermuda and back several times and I have done the offshore qualifying run (several times as it turns out) in my own boat. I am now prepping the boat (new sails, replacing Rod, optimizing autopilot, increasing solar capacity) and acquiring the race-required safety equipment. The most challenging and difficult-to-swallow part of this is the cost of an offshore life raft. Rental rates are impossible: $1200/ for 7-14 days and I would need at least three weeks since the return race starts two weeks after the outbound leg. The purchase cost of a raft ($2200 plus ongoing recertification costs) is hard to rationalize for a single race especially when the boat is only typically used for coastal sailing but I'll swallow it if I have to. However, if there is anyone out there in CC-land with a raft that needs re-certification, I would be happy to have that done in return for the use (ummm, hopefully not) of the raft during the month of June. This will likely be the first of many questions as I prep for the race in the coming months. Keep warm! David ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Life rafts
David, Sounds awesome! I know a CC 41 that does the race regularly. Vane Bros. in Baltimore charges $500 for a raft for a month, but transporting it may make it cost prohibitive. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'll jump on that offer! You may want to check the cost of re certifying a Winslow 6 man offshore before offering! Feel free to contact me off list. I'm in NJ John Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:20 PM, David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a cold day topic ... I am aiming to compete in the 2015 Bermuda 1-2 race in my vintage CC 33-1. (my boat won't be the only old CC). My pretentions are modest -- think Eddie the Eagle rather than Moitessier, but I have sailed to Bermuda and back several times and I have done the offshore qualifying run (several times as it turns out) in my own boat. I am now prepping the boat (new sails, replacing Rod, optimizing autopilot, increasing solar capacity) and acquiring the race-required safety equipment. The most challenging and difficult-to-swallow part of this is the cost of an offshore life raft. Rental rates are impossible: $1200/ for 7-14 days and I would need at least three weeks since the return race starts two weeks after the outbound leg. The purchase cost of a raft ($2200 plus ongoing recertification costs) is hard to rationalize for a single race especially when the boat is only typically used for coastal sailing but I'll swallow it if I have to. However, if there is anyone out there in CC-land with a raft that needs re-certification, I would be happy to have that done in return for the use (ummm, hopefully not) of the raft during the month of June. This will likely be the first of many questions as I prep for the race in the coming months. Keep warm! David ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
It was 12 facking degrees this morning. Boat cabin temp was 34 this morning at sunrise and is now up to 46 and that is with the heater going at 500 watts. My car started right up but it was not going to be shifting gears very easily until it ran for a bit. Joe Della Barba Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:50 AM To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aro ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Life rafts
I too am in the same boat (raft?). We are doing the Marion-Bermuda Race again this year and I checked on rentals as we have done in the past. From $800 to $1,250! Although an open-ended offer to re-certify would probably be as much as renting I am open to discussion if anybody else has any ideas. Taking care of the other David, of course, takes priority. I will definitely check on Vane too. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:57:08 -0500 To: j...@svpaws.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Life rafts From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com David, Sounds awesome! I know a CC 41 that does the race regularly. Vane Bros. in Baltimore charges $500 for a raft for a month, but transporting it may make it cost prohibitive. Joel35/3Annapolis On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'll jump on that offer! You may want to check the cost of re certifying a Winslow 6 man offshore before offering! Feel free to contact me off list. I'm in NJ John Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:20 PM, David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a cold day topic ... I am aiming to compete in the 2015 Bermuda 1-2 race in my vintage CC 33-1. (my boat won't be the only old CC). My pretentions are modest -- think Eddie the Eagle rather than Moitessier, but I have sailed to Bermuda and back several times and I have done the offshore qualifying run (several times as it turns out) in my own boat. I am now prepping the boat (new sails, replacing Rod, optimizing autopilot, increasing solar capacity) and acquiring the race-required safety equipment. The most challenging and difficult-to-swallow part of this is the cost of an offshore life raft. Rental rates are impossible: $1200/ for 7-14 days and I would need at least three weeks since the return race starts two weeks after the outbound leg. The purchase cost of a raft ($2200 plus ongoing recertification costs) is hard to rationalize for a single race especially when the boat is only typically used for coastal sailing but I'll swallow it if I have to. However, if there is anyone out there in CC-land with a raft that needs re-certification, I would be happy to have that done in return for the use (ummm, hopefully not) of the raft during the month of June. This will likely be the first of many questions as I prep for the race in the coming months. Keep warm! David ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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David, Too bad your race starts the day after the return leg of my race begins -- we could have worked-out a deal. David On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:23 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I too am in the same boat (raft?). We are doing the Marion-Bermuda Race again this year and I checked on rentals as we have done in the past. From $800 to $1,250! Although an open-ended offer to re-certify would probably be as much as renting I am open to discussion if anybody else has any ideas. Taking care of the other David, of course, takes priority. I will definitely check on Vane too. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) -- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:57:08 -0500 To: j...@svpaws.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Life rafts From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com David, Sounds awesome! I know a CC 41 that does the race regularly. Vane Bros. in Baltimore charges $500 for a raft for a month, but transporting it may make it cost prohibitive. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'll jump on that offer! You may want to check the cost of re certifying a Winslow 6 man offshore before offering! Feel free to contact me off list. I'm in NJ John Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:20 PM, David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi All, Here's a cold day topic ... I am aiming to compete in the 2015 Bermuda 1-2 race in my vintage CC 33-1. (my boat won't be the only old CC). My pretentions are modest -- think Eddie the Eagle rather than Moitessier, but I have sailed to Bermuda and back several times and I have done the offshore qualifying run (several times as it turns out) in my own boat. I am now prepping the boat (new sails, replacing Rod, optimizing autopilot, increasing solar capacity) and acquiring the race-required safety equipment. The most challenging and difficult-to-swallow part of this is the cost of an offshore life raft. Rental rates are impossible: $1200/ for 7-14 days and I would need at least three weeks since the return race starts two weeks after the outbound leg. The purchase cost of a raft ($2200 plus ongoing recertification costs) is hard to rationalize for a single race especially when the boat is only typically used for coastal sailing but I'll swallow it if I have to. However, if there is anyone out there in CC-land with a raft that needs re-certification, I would be happy to have that done in return for the use (ummm, hopefully not) of the raft during the month of June. This will likely be the first of many questions as I prep for the race in the coming months. Keep warm! David ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days. It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis! School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Too cold to email?
Haven't seen much traffic the last few days. It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis! School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
Actually, I’ve been in southern Illinois (Marion, flying through St Louis…) for the last week or so for work; it was about the same here this morning (+3F) as it was in Minneapolis. Not very good sailing weather, although the wind has been pretty good… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days. It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis! School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
I actually have been out on a windy 19 degree night. Constant supply of hot cider from below kept me going. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 1:59 PM To: Ronald B. Frerker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Actually, I've been in southern Illinois (Marion, flying through St Louis...) for the last week or so for work; it was about the same here this morning (+3F) as it was in Minneapolis. Not very good sailing weather, although the wind has been pretty good... :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days. It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis! School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
Back in the 80's I was crewing on a J-24 practicing for the early spring Suma Cup regatta in Kobe Japan. It was a cold winter day in the PNW with daytime temps in the teens. We pulled the J-24 trailer up to one of Shilshole Bay Marina's bathroom buildings and ran a hose to the hot water supply to wash the ice off the boat's deck. It was still much too cold to complete significant crew training and practice but the slightly warmer decks helped prevent frostbite at the movable ballast/deck interface during our 2 or 3 hour sail. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? I actually have been out on a windy 19 degree night. Constant supply of hot cider from below kept me going. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 1:59 PM To: Ronald B. Frerker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Actually, I've been in southern Illinois (Marion, flying through St Louis...) for the last week or so for work; it was about the same here this morning (+3F) as it was in Minneapolis. Not very good sailing weather, although the wind has been pretty good... :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days. It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis! School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
On New Years Day 2015 we brought Osprey (30-2) back from Hood River, OR (where we spent the Christmas Holiday and weekend) to Portland where she is berthed. It was 14* when we left the dock at 7am (The dock lines were very tough because frozen) and didn't reach above 25* till late afternoon. We had a rollicking sail down the Columbia in 35+knots on the tail. We hit *12.3 knots* GPS speed under 100% jib alone! (with some current assist.) The biggest problem was that the water froze solid to about 1/4 thick on the side decks, and the jib sheets were frozen from the few times we dipped the rails in the water. It was a bear to bend them around the winch and the self tailer was worthless. I had two hands on the wheel nearly the entire time, but did manage to grab this shot of one of the buoys. That white stuff is solid ice! The transom photo was taken about 3pm when it finally started to warm up and melt some of the ice gathered along the way. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8QWtlbGE2NzhYRzQ/view?usp=sharing Cheers, Kevin Osprey 30-2 PDX On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:01:00 PM schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On 1/8/2015 12:31 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill. The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight. I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40. Better so far compared to the Polar Vortex of last year. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:49:58 -0800 From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Message-ID: 1420735798.94360.yahoomailba...@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days.? It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis!? School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com OK, you win. It was only -5 degrees F here with clear skies (until about 1 pm). About 8 inches of snow on the ground with another 6-8 expected this evening into tomorrow. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair in frozen South Haven, Michigan ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
try this link... https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwhcX19YaPJ8eFpsSTNINWxNZE0usp=sharing On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:58:53 PM Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote: On New Years Day 2015 we brought Osprey (30-2) back from Hood River, OR (where we spent the Christmas Holiday and weekend) to Portland where she is berthed. It was 14* when we left the dock at 7am (The dock lines were very tough because frozen) and didn't reach above 25* till late afternoon. We had a rollicking sail down the Columbia in 35+knots on the tail. We hit *12.3 knots* GPS speed under 100% jib alone! (with some current assist.) The biggest problem was that the water froze solid to about 1/4 thick on the side decks, and the jib sheets were frozen from the few times we dipped the rails in the water. It was a bear to bend them around the winch and the self tailer was worthless. I had two hands on the wheel nearly the entire time, but did manage to grab this shot of one of the buoys. That white stuff is solid ice! The transom photo was taken about 3pm when it finally started to warm up and melt some of the ice gathered along the way. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8QWtlbGE2NzhYRzQ/view?usp=sharing Cheers, Kevin Osprey 30-2 PDX On Thu Jan 08 2015 at 12:01:00 PM schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On 1/8/2015 12:31 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill. The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight. I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40. Better so far compared to the Polar Vortex of last year. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:49:58 -0800 From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Message-ID: 1420735798.94360.yahoomailba...@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days.? It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis!? School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com OK, you win. It was only -5 degrees F here with clear skies (until about 1 pm). About 8 inches of snow on the ground with another 6-8 expected this evening into tomorrow. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair in frozen South Haven, Michigan ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Too cold to email?
On 1/8/2015 12:31 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill. The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight. I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40. Better so far compared to the Polar Vortex of last year. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:49:58 -0800 From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com mailto:rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Too cold to email? Message-ID: 1420735798.94360.yahoomailba...@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com mailto:1420735798.94360.yahoomailba...@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Got to zero here in STL with a -15 wind chill; hate to hear Fred's tales of woe. Some cars wouldn't start; guess the electric done froze up in the wires! Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 On Thu, 1/8/15, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Stus-List Too cold to email? To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 10:05 AM Haven't seen much traffic the last few days.? It was 9 F this a.m. in Annapolis!? School was delyed 2 hours so the little rugrats wouldn't freeze at the bus stop. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com OK, you win. It was only -5 degrees F here with clear skies (until about 1 pm). About 8 inches of snow on the ground with another 6-8 expected this evening into tomorrow. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair in frozen South Haven, Michigan ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC Landfall 35 For Sale
There was a LF 35 on Craigslist Annapolis this week. Think they wanted 25k. Joel On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:09 PM, schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Went to South Haven to check on Corsair this morning and I noticed a 1981 CC Landfall 35 for sale just down the line from Corsair. I have seen this boat around the harbor before. What is listed on the For Sale sign is: 1981 CC Landfall 35 New Yanmar 27 hp Diesel 269-845-4384 I tried to get close enough to check the hull number. I believe that it is Hull #21. From memory, the boat has a blue Bimini and Dodger. I have never been aboard to see the interior. It appears to be in good shape. I don't think the owner did much upgrading. I have a few pictures of the boat from when I was planning our Dodger and Bimini. Please contact me off list if you want any of them. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair The challenge of a 45 year old boat is to keep the water on the outside of the hull! ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC Landfall 35 For Sale
Went to South Haven to check on Corsair this morning and I noticed a 1981 CC Landfall 35 for sale just down the line from Corsair. I have seen this boat around the harbor before. What is listed on the For Sale sign is: 1981 CC Landfall 35 New Yanmar 27 hp Diesel 269-845-4384 I tried to get close enough to check the hull number. I believe that it is Hull #21. From memory, the boat has a blue Bimini and Dodger. I have never been aboard to see the interior. It appears to be in good shape. I don't think the owner did much upgrading. I have a few pictures of the boat from when I was planning our Dodger and Bimini. Please contact me off list if you want any of them. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair The challenge of a 45 year old boat is to keep the water on the outside of the hull! ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC Landfall 35 For Sale
That boat is on Yachtworld. It has the normal layout that I like, not the giant table in the bow version I don’t care for as much. (YMMV depending on how many you sail with). The new-ish engine seems like a nice thing to have. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:13 PM To: schiller; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC Landfall 35 For Sale There was a LF 35 on Craigslist Annapolis this week. Think they wanted 25k. Joel On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:09 PM, schiller via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Went to South Haven to check on Corsair this morning and I noticed a 1981 CC Landfall 35 for sale just down the line from Corsair. I have seen this boat around the harbor before. What is listed on the For Sale sign is: 1981 CC Landfall 35 New Yanmar 27 hp Diesel 269-845-4384tel:269-845-4384 I tried to get close enough to check the hull number. I believe that it is Hull #21. From memory, the boat has a blue Bimini and Dodger. I have never been aboard to see the interior. It appears to be in good shape. I don't think the owner did much upgrading. I have a few pictures of the boat from when I was planning our Dodger and Bimini. Please contact me off list if you want any of them. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair The challenge of a 45 year old boat is to keep the water on the outside of the hull! ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
