Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
I am more paranoid of the hatch leaking than the sides. I will start on the hatch. Right after I redo the hand rails. I hate leaks. Thanks for the help. Wish me luck. Ill let ya know how it turns out. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I had a choice of paying someone to cut the plastic or buying a piece of plastic on-line (Interstate Plastics?) and a router for the same price. Now I have a router that has been used on several other projects. Joel On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Isn't: 1) The gasket is only between the cast lid (in the groove underneath) and the frame to seal the frame to the lid when closed?. As pointed out the gasket material could be obtained from numerous sources. 2) The acrylic is bedded in in the frame with compound? ... Sikaflex 295 UV? 3) The frame is bonded to the deck with butyl and screws. 4) New cast acrylic could be obtained from multiple sources using the old one as a template. So with regards to replacing the acrylic, a lot of the discussion that just took place here regarding window replacement also is applicable to hatches. In my case (CC 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of the hatch acrylic into the cast lid - I don't think those are original ... It appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the windows were re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included every 6-inches or so ... that's (of course) where the windows are now leaking from (in fact the screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass around the window opening and I can even pull a couple screws right out of the cabin side completely stripped!) Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:47 AM *To:* Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1 It should look like one of these: http://atkinshoyle.com/products/hatches-and-ports.html Yup, Butyl and wood screws. You should be able to take out the pin and remove the lid and work on it at home. Joel On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34 year old window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the complete window at that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit this afternoon. Hoe is the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the underside of the window? Is it bolted into wood with woof screws from the top side using only butle tape? On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have suggested these guys too: http://hatchrepair.com/ (Hammerhead Nautical Systems) I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!) sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34 year old window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the complete window at that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit this afternoon. Hoe is the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the underside of the window? Is it bolted into wood with woof screws from the top side using only butle tape? On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have suggested these guys too: http://hatchrepair.com/ (Hammerhead Nautical Systems) I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!) sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady * Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
I had a choice of paying someone to cut the plastic or buying a piece of plastic on-line (Interstate Plastics?) and a router for the same price. Now I have a router that has been used on several other projects. Joel On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Isn’t: 1) The gasket is only between the cast lid (in the groove underneath) and the frame to seal the frame to the lid when closed?. As pointed out the gasket material could be obtained from numerous sources. 2) The acrylic is bedded in in the frame with compound? ... Sikaflex 295 UV? 3) The frame is bonded to the deck with butyl and screws. 4) New cast acrylic could be obtained from multiple sources using the old one as a template. So with regards to replacing the acrylic, a lot of the discussion that just took place here regarding window replacement also is applicable to hatches. In my case (CC 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of the hatch acrylic into the cast lid – I don’t think those are original ... It appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the windows were re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included every 6-inches or so ... that’s (of course) where the windows are now leaking from (in fact the screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass around the window opening and I can even pull a couple screws right out of the cabin side completely stripped!) Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:47 AM *To:* Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1 It should look like one of these: http://atkinshoyle.com/products/hatches-and-ports.html Yup, Butyl and wood screws. You should be able to take out the pin and remove the lid and work on it at home. Joel On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34 year old window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the complete window at that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit this afternoon. Hoe is the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the underside of the window? Is it bolted into wood with woof screws from the top side using only butle tape? On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have suggested these guys too: http://hatchrepair.com/ (Hammerhead Nautical Systems) I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!) sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,*
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Great points, I'm in the middle of doing the same refab job: My questions are: (1) 0.5 diameter circular cross-section neoprene gasket (for the hatch seal onto frame) but what harness neoprene? (2) Does anyone know where to get a replacement aluminum hatch handle (the round one that allows the hatch to be opened from the outside)? I killed one of the two when I removed it to allow the lens to be removed. The price from AH was too much for me (I'd be better off machining one myself) Thanks for any hints! David On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Isn’t: 1) The gasket is only between the cast lid (in the groove underneath) and the frame to seal the frame to the lid when closed?. As pointed out the gasket material could be obtained from numerous sources. 2) The acrylic is bedded in in the frame with compound? ... Sikaflex 295 UV? 3) The frame is bonded to the deck with butyl and screws. 4) New cast acrylic could be obtained from multiple sources using the old one as a template. So with regards to replacing the acrylic, a lot of the discussion that just took place here regarding window replacement also is applicable to hatches. In my case (CC 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of the hatch acrylic into the cast lid – I don’t think those are original ... It appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the windows were re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included every 6-inches or so ... that’s (of course) where the windows are now leaking from (in fact the screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass around the window opening and I can even pull a couple screws right out of the cabin side completely stripped!) Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:47 AM *To:* Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1 It should look like one of these: http://atkinshoyle.com/products/hatches-and-ports.html Yup, Butyl and wood screws. You should be able to take out the pin and remove the lid and work on it at home. Joel On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34 year old window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the complete window at that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit this afternoon. Hoe is the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the underside of the window? Is it bolted into wood with woof screws from the top side using only butle tape? On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have suggested these guys too: http://hatchrepair.com/ (Hammerhead Nautical Systems) I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!) sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List reefing line
3/16 or 1/4 dyneema is fine. If you are concerned about wear, add a nylon cover to the part of the line that will be on the winch. I have a dog-bone on one of my lines so I can move it from one reef point to another. (also have 3 reef points, but 2 lines). I have a hook on the boom at the tack and run the reef lines to clutches (with covers on the dyneema) on the cabin top. Just one way to do it! Joel On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:40 PM, David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Quick question for the List: I've had my sail maker put three reefs into my mainsail (CC33-I). Most of the time I sail with the reef-line not run through the clew grommets. For an upcoming sailing adventure, I will need to have all three reefs rigged and ready to go. What line should I use? 3/16 Dynema looks light and should be strong enough for reef #3 (maybe heavier for reef 1 and 2) but here's the suck: I reef at the mast and use a winch on the boom to pull in the new reef/clew. My sense is that Dynema isn't great on winches. So the question is: (1) What brand/type? (2) What diameter? (3) Reef at mast or at cockpit? (4) Reef hook/horn or something else? Thanks! David ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furling the main
Dave, I like the EZjack system. The fact that it can be retracted relatively easily is a real advantage to me. Since my mast is on the bench at the moment it should be an easy installation. My rigger (Frank Colanery) at Bay Sailing Equipment will have it soon to go through everything and hopefully install a tube in the mast so I can re-wire it. I’ll mention it to him, too. Thanks for sharing. As always this list is a wealth of information. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:32 AM To: David Knecht; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Someone asked how the Dutchman flaking system got its name. It was invented by Martin Van Breems now of Norwalk CT (Sound Sailing Center) but from his name presumably of Dutch origins -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Feb 24, 2015, at 08:19, David Knecht via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On my last boat, I installed a set of EZJax (http://www.ezjax.com). They were less expensive than the Harken and the setup was well designed. It is not hard to do it yourself, but getting all the lengths and positions right will take some careful measurements and probably several tries. I decided that having someone experienced design the right sized system for my mast and sail was worth the small extra investment. EZ-jax also had a nice setup for retracting the lines, which makes it easier to hoist the sail. That said, I am installing a Mack Pack/lazyjack on my current boat this spring if the ice and snow melt before the sailing season is over. I liked their combination of lazy jacks and sail cover. The setup that came with my boat was poorly designed and a pain to use. It shows me that while you can cobble something together that sort of works (what the boat came with), it does not make life easier unless it works well. Dave On Feb 23, 2015, at 11:27 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Burt, Only the Lazy Jacks don't require changes to your main sail. Both stack pack and the Dutchman system might require a completely new main (or major modifications to it) or a new sail cover. You can buy the Harken set or what I would suggest, assemble your own kit. This is not an overly complicated task. Fortunately, Harken and many others publish pretty good pictures and diagrams which you can use. A few points that you might find useful: - If you make your own set, be prepared that the amount of line required for the lazy jacks is way more than you would ever imagine. If I remember correctly I needed over 70 ft for a single Y system (two lines going to the boom). I eventually switched to three lines to the boom and it was around 100 ft. Keep in mind that it is usually much easier to cut the line than to make it longer (;-). - If it works for you, consider attaching the top end of the lazy jacks to the spreaders (10-15 cm/4-6 from the mast). This would make raising the sail much easier as the slot between the lines would be wider. - Many would say that using stainless steel rings, instead of little blocks is fine. My experience showed that the SS rings almost cut through the line (chafe) in one season. YMMV. - And lastly, if the cost of the Harken set seems prohibitive, but you are not feeling like assembling the set yourself, you should be able to find something in a local chandlery or on-line. For comparison, e.g. Sailboat Owners sells the Harken kit for around $360, but Catalina Direct sells a similar set (not brand name) for about $210. The fact that it is Catalina Direct does not mean that the set would not be useful, because there is nothing specific about the lazy jacks; it is just a few pieces of hardware, a piece of line and a few blocks. A kit like that has an advantage, because it comes with all screws, bolts, drill bits, taps, Tef-gel and instructions. Guessing from how you asked you question, you might not have too much experience with boat work, so a kit like that might be an easier way to tackle the job. Good luck Marek (in cold Ottawa) Btw. It was so cold tonight (around -25 - -27 C at the hill, plus the wind-chill) that the local ski hill closed; second time this year! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: February-23-15 21:07 To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Dennis, Believe it or not I used that method out of desperation. I was admittedly a little embarrassed. I thought I was just demonstrating my lack of experience. I was also pretty happy with the result. I appreciate knowing otherwise. Newport has some pretty accomplished (and judgmental) sailors. There have been times I just gave up on the main and sailed with head sail only. This list is invaluable. Thanks I will look into the lazy
Re: Stus-List Furling Main
I sailed my boat for 2 seasons before installing Harken lazy jacks. No regrets whatsoever 12 years later. Made single handing a much better experience. Combined with full battens it helps to keep the mainsail in control at all times. Helps especially to hoist when single handing. No need to go forward since you can remove the sail ties before leaving the harbour in all but the most extreme conditions. Keeps the sail off the deck when furling which is probably the most obvious advantage, but I find it especially helpful when shortening sail. Great labour saving device, and hence the name. The only operational drawback, and it is a small one, is that you have to use a bit of care not to snag the leech when hoisting the sail. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Maturo, John via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 08:32 Subject: Stus-List Furling Main I removed the lazy jacks my boat came with and find dropping the main quickly puts the sail on the leeward deck providing a quick conversion to power with no windage issues to deal with and good visibility for the helmsman. Flaking the sail is easy working from the topping lift end of the boom. Yes I have a boom topping lift. I have never had a problem with the sail blowing over the side provided we are into the wind or in the relative calm of the harbor entrance. I like simplicity. Fewer things to tangle, get jammed, or wear out. John Maturo 203-494-6782 Ashe, Baltic/CC 39 Branford CT On Feb 24, 2015, at 08:20, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cnc-2Dlist.com_mailman_listinfo_cnc-2Dlist-5Fcnc-2Dlist.comd=AwICAgc=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqwr=JfOGUZ0Fy3MRBAMuzaSlv4fhcMOsdV5O-H4NS90a5uom=t6ksqf2XVmiKwojY3AS6AGn6cFGwI9qRIPpvBOGm4pss=tZVbZyCYCgvbTYbAkJ8bBnASBib4dFDFJe6iu1svntMe= or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Furling the main (Marek Dziedzic) 2. Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (Ronald B. Frerker) 3. Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (Russ Melody) 4. Re: Handheld VHF with DSC (Della Barba, Joe) 5. Re: Handheld VHF with DSC (Bill Bina - gmail) 6. Re: Furling the main (David Knecht) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:27:36 -0500 From: Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Message-ID: blu184-ds20adabd0e8520c4273c59ece...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Burt, Only the Lazy Jacks don't require changes to your main sail. Both stack pack and the Dutchman system might require a completely new main (or major modifications to it) or a new sail cover. You can buy the Harken set or what I would suggest, assemble your own kit. This is not an overly complicated task. Fortunately, Harken and many others publish pretty good pictures and diagrams which you can use. A few points that you might find useful: - If you make your own set, be prepared that the amount of line required for the lazy jacks is way more than you would ever imagine. If I remember correctly I needed over 70 ft for a single Y system (two lines going to the boom). I eventually switched to three lines to the boom and it was around 100 ft. Keep in mind that it is usually much easier to cut the line than to make it longer (;-). - If it works for you, consider attaching the top end of the lazy jacks to the spreaders (10-15 cm/4-6 from the mast). This would make raising the sail much easier as the slot between the lines would be wider. - Many would say that using stainless steel rings, instead of little blocks is fine. My experience showed that the SS rings almost cut through the line (chafe) in one season. YMMV. - And lastly, if the cost of the Harken set seems prohibitive, but you are not feeling like assembling the set yourself, you should be able to find something in a local chandlery or on-line. For comparison, e.g. Sailboat Owners sells the Harken kit for around $360, but Catalina Direct sells a similar set (not brand name) for about $210. The fact that it is Catalina Direct does not mean that the set would not be useful, because there is nothing specific about the lazy jacks; it is just a few pieces of hardware, a piece of line and a few blocks. A kit like that has an advantage, because it comes with all screws, bolts, drill bits, taps, Tef-gel and instructions. Guessing from how you asked you question, you might not have too much
Re: Stus-List cockpit drains freezing
Mike You have just made the pain / hassle of installing and then maintaining a winter cover seem very much more worthwhile to me. I am constantly worrying about the weight of the snow on my deck at home, at my mom's place and on roofs this year. Now on top of that on my boat cover. So far has only been one week where I had to spend hourseclearing snow off the boat cover and reinforcing the frame - since then has been ok. One interesting tidbit I learned this year is that snow sticks to the custom canvas covers much more readily than shrink wrap covers. Shrink wrap might be an option for you to try in the future for this reason .. Mike Persistence Frers 33 Halifax, NS - in the midst of a freeze portion of freeze thaw cycle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of mike amirault via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 7:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List cockpit drains freezing NS has seen many freeze thaw cycles this winter. After a fairly substantial rainfall this weekend, I found the bilge on my CC 33mkii was full to the top. This seemed like too much water to have run down the mast so I investigated and found that one of the hoses on my cockpit drains was frozen solid and popped the hose off the barbs of the drain. My boat is not covered at this time(tarp was sagging too much) so there is a lot of water in the cockpit. I'm thinking there may be a low spot in the hose causing water to freeze there rather than draining. The drains on my CC are criss-crossed, i.e., port drainst to stbd, stbd to port. Just wondering how other owners in a freezing climate deal with this issue? ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I removed the lazy jacks my boat came with and find dropping the main quickly puts the sail on the leeward deck providing a quick conversion to power with no windage issues to deal with and good visibility for the helmsman. Flaking the sail is easy working from the topping lift end of the boom. Yes I have a boom topping lift. I have never had a problem with the sail blowing over the side provided we are into the wind or in the relative calm of the harbor entrance. I like simplicity. Fewer things to tangle, get jammed, or wear out. John Maturo 203-494-6782 Ashe, Baltic/CC 39 Branford CT On Feb 24, 2015, at 08:20, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cnc-2Dlist.com_mailman_listinfo_cnc-2Dlist-5Fcnc-2Dlist.comd=AwICAgc=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqwr=JfOGUZ0Fy3MRBAMuzaSlv4fhcMOsdV5O-H4NS90a5uom=t6ksqf2XVmiKwojY3AS6AGn6cFGwI9qRIPpvBOGm4pss=tZVbZyCYCgvbTYbAkJ8bBnASBib4dFDFJe6iu1svntMe= or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Furling the main (Marek Dziedzic) 2. Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (Ronald B. Frerker) 3. Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (Russ Melody) 4. Re: Handheld VHF with DSC (Della Barba, Joe) 5. Re: Handheld VHF with DSC (Bill Bina - gmail) 6. Re: Furling the main (David Knecht) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:27:36 -0500 From: Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Message-ID: blu184-ds20adabd0e8520c4273c59ece...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Burt, Only the Lazy Jacks don't require changes to your main sail. Both stack pack and the Dutchman system might require a completely new main (or major modifications to it) or a new sail cover. You can buy the Harken set or what I would suggest, assemble your own kit. This is not an overly complicated task. Fortunately, Harken and many others publish pretty good pictures and diagrams which you can use. A few points that you might find useful: - If you make your own set, be prepared that the amount of line required for the lazy jacks is way more than you would ever imagine. If I remember correctly I needed over 70 ft for a single Y system (two lines going to the boom). I eventually switched to three lines to the boom and it was around 100 ft. Keep in mind that it is usually much easier to cut the line than to make it longer (;-). - If it works for you, consider attaching the top end of the lazy jacks to the spreaders (10-15 cm/4-6 from the mast). This would make raising the sail much easier as the slot between the lines would be wider. - Many would say that using stainless steel rings, instead of little blocks is fine. My experience showed that the SS rings almost cut through the line (chafe) in one season. YMMV. - And lastly, if the cost of the Harken set seems prohibitive, but you are not feeling like assembling the set yourself, you should be able to find something in a local chandlery or on-line. For comparison, e.g. Sailboat Owners sells the Harken kit for around $360, but Catalina Direct sells a similar set (not brand name) for about $210. The fact that it is Catalina Direct does not mean that the set would not be useful, because there is nothing specific about the lazy jacks; it is just a few pieces of hardware, a piece of line and a few blocks. A kit like that has an advantage, because it comes with all screws, bolts, drill bits, taps, Tef-gel and instructions. Guessing from how you asked you question, you might not have too much experience with boat work, so a kit like that might be an easier way to tackle the job. Good luck Marek (in cold Ottawa) Btw. It was so cold tonight (around -25 - -27 C at the hill, plus the wind-chill) that the local ski hill closed; second time this year! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: February-23-15 21:07 To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Dennis, Believe it or not I used that method out of desperation. I was admittedly a little embarrassed. I thought I was just demonstrating my lack of experience. I was also pretty happy with the result. I appreciate knowing otherwise. Newport has some pretty accomplished (and judgmental) sailors. There have been times I just gave up on the main and
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Re: Stus-List Furling Main
Funny...when sailing to the mooring I do the opposite. Furl Jib in outer harbor and with plenty of run-room drop and flake the main. Unroll jib and sail to mooring. I can decelerate and accelerate thru the mooring field by furling and unfurling jib as control requires. When approaching mooring just put it away and there is none of the main boom banging around or somehow catching breeze if the boat falls off when dead on the water. When docking under sail works like a charm too. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:23:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling Main From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I agree with John, the simpler, the better. I sail singlehanded 90% of the time. When sailing on to my mooring, I furl the jib well in advance, approach the mooring in irons, drop the main and grab the mooring lines. The main is then flaked properly. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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John The 36 is a great boat. We grew up with a 1981 CC 36 Blue Horizon No. 1 in Halifax. It always felt powerful to me and my favorite spot was sitting on the bow in the pulpit watching the bow cut thru the water Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Bousfield via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:32 AM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List New to the list To All, Getting some great info from you all. Lots to think about as we get used to our CC 36. Bought the boat last fall and only had a chance to sail it during the test sail, but we fell in love with her. Thanks again all. John Marjolein CC 36 Dutch Girl ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furling Main
I agree with John, the simpler, the better. I sail singlehanded 90% of the time. When sailing on to my mooring, I furl the jib well in advance, approach the mooring in irons, drop the main and grab the mooring lines. The main is then flaked properly.___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furling the main
On my last boat, I installed a set of EZJax (http://www.ezjax.com). They were less expensive than the Harken and the setup was well designed. It is not hard to do it yourself, but getting all the lengths and positions right will take some careful measurements and probably several tries. I decided that having someone experienced design the right sized system for my mast and sail was worth the small extra investment. EZ-jax also had a nice setup for retracting the lines, which makes it easier to hoist the sail. That said, I am installing a Mack Pack/lazyjack on my current boat this spring if the ice and snow melt before the sailing season is over. I liked their combination of lazy jacks and sail cover. The setup that came with my boat was poorly designed and a pain to use. It shows me that while you can cobble something together that sort of works (what the boat came with), it does not make life easier unless it works well. Dave On Feb 23, 2015, at 11:27 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Burt, Only the Lazy Jacks don't require changes to your main sail. Both stack pack and the Dutchman system might require a completely new main (or major modifications to it) or a new sail cover. You can buy the Harken set or what I would suggest, assemble your own kit. This is not an overly complicated task. Fortunately, Harken and many others publish pretty good pictures and diagrams which you can use. A few points that you might find useful: - If you make your own set, be prepared that the amount of line required for the lazy jacks is way more than you would ever imagine. If I remember correctly I needed over 70 ft for a single Y system (two lines going to the boom). I eventually switched to three lines to the boom and it was around 100 ft. Keep in mind that it is usually much easier to cut the line than to make it longer (;-). - If it works for you, consider attaching the top end of the lazy jacks to the spreaders (10-15 cm/4-6 from the mast). This would make raising the sail much easier as the slot between the lines would be wider. - Many would say that using stainless steel rings, instead of little blocks is fine. My experience showed that the SS rings almost cut through the line (chafe) in one season. YMMV. - And lastly, if the cost of the Harken set seems prohibitive, but you are not feeling like assembling the set yourself, you should be able to find something in a local chandlery or on-line. For comparison, e.g. Sailboat Owners sells the Harken kit for around $360, but Catalina Direct sells a similar set (not brand name) for about $210. The fact that it is Catalina Direct does not mean that the set would not be useful, because there is nothing specific about the lazy jacks; it is just a few pieces of hardware, a piece of line and a few blocks. A kit like that has an advantage, because it comes with all screws, bolts, drill bits, taps, Tef-gel and instructions. Guessing from how you asked you question, you might not have too much experience with boat work, so a kit like that might be an easier way to tackle the job. Good luck Marek (in cold Ottawa) Btw. It was so cold tonight (around -25 - -27 C at the hill, plus the wind-chill) that the local ski hill closed; second time this year! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: February-23-15 21:07 To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Dennis, Believe it or not I used that method out of desperation. I was admittedly a little embarrassed. I thought I was just demonstrating my lack of experience. I was also pretty happy with the result. I appreciate knowing otherwise. Newport has some pretty accomplished (and judgmental) sailors. There have been times I just gave up on the main and sailed with head sail only. This list is invaluable. Thanks I will look into the lazy jack system. I think it would be a reasonable upgrade to my rig. I am having the entire rig inspected soon. The rigger is going to pick it up in March. I’ll speak to them about this. Hopefully it cost less than all new self-tailing winches. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 8:23 PM To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Furling the main Burt, Lazy jacks, Dutchman systems, etc. are all nice. I've installed several Harken Lazy Jack systems. However, try this simple cost free solution. This is what I do when single handing. Release the halyard and let the sail drop. Put a couple sail ties around your neck. Stand on one side of the boom in the middle and throw the main to the other side. Then lean over the boom and roll the sail into itself. Continue until it's a compact roll. Wrap a sail tie around the rolled/bundled
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To All, Getting some great info from you all. Lots to think about as we get used to our CC 36. Bought the boat last fall and only had a chance to sail it during the test sail, but we fell in love with her. Thanks again all. John Marjolein CC 36 Dutch Girl ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Curtis — the hatches were made by Atkins Hoyle: http://atkinshoyle.com/ But you’re better off sourcing the gasket elsewhere. Search the archives for the correct size for your hatch and order from McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- */Best regards,/* */Curtis McDaniel, /* */CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady /* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ ** *cpt.b...@gmail.com mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com* ** /* __/) */ . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have suggested these guys too: http://hatchrepair.com/ (Hammerhead Nautical Systems) I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!) sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have suggested these guys too: http://hatchrepair.com/ (Hammerhead Nautical Systems) I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!) sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady * Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
If you are close to Norwalk CT you can get get gasket and lens from Select Plastics -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:29, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Select Plastics in South Norwalk, CT is Hatchmasters.com :-) Bill Bina On 2/24/2015 12:14 PM, Indigo via CnC-List wrote: If you are close to Norwalk CT you can get get gasket and lens from Select Plastics -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:29, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for the gasket/ thanks -- */Best regards,/* */Curtis McDaniel, /* */CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady /* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ ** *cpt.b...@gmail.com mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com* ** /* __/) */ . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Antigua Sailing
Got back from 2 weeks sailing Antigua at the end of January and thought I'd share with the list: If you've had enough of the BVI's - I know that's hard to imagine - Antigua is a different experience. We enjoyed it so much, we're booked up to go back in November. Sailing is a bit more like open ocean sailing with bigger seas. Navigation is a little more challenging - nothing to worry about but interesting. Maybe just different from the BVI's. A lot more private boats than charter boats, and some really big boats ($M) both sail and power. We chartered a Dufour 425 from Dream Yachtcharters in Jolly Harbour. Very clean, everything worked and sailed real well. Only 2 islands to explore - Antigue and Barbuda. Barbuda is less developed, sort of like Anageda in the BVI's. While there, we were one of 3 boats anchored off an 11 mile beach. BBQ'd lobster available - yum! Antigua has an interesting old dockyard - Nelson's Dockyard - that has been restored and is now a marina with shops and restaurants. Mediterranean Mooring here. Very clean; less developed; no crime (that I noticed); more anchoring - less mooring; nice people. Somewhere different to go, if you need a change from the BVI's, but still need sun. sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List compass repair
FWIW, I fixed the large bubble in my Ritchie compass this week. Bellows and everything looked fine, so on a -6 degree morning after leaving it in garage overnight with the fluid, refilled per instructions on the internet, and it has held for a week. Looks like bubble gone. Hopefully for the season. Bill Walker Evening Star CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from my HTC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Fellow who did my windows did the same Paul. :) On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Peter, I had friends that circumnavigated and had their windows replaced in NZ. The NZ folks just laughed at the American yachties every time they saw screws in the plex and mumbled leaky boat. There is NO way to have enough flex/adhesion space around the screws. They use very large overlaps, industrial Dow or Silkaflex, the stuff glass buildings use, and require a week in the yard for it to cure without flexing. They hold the edges own with small screws and fender washers while it sets, then remove the screws and do a 3/4 fillet around the windows. Their boats sail in much rougher waters than we are used too. . . 2 cents, Lee In my case (CC 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of the hatch acrylic into the cast lid - I don't think those are original ... It appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the windows were re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included every 6-inches or so ... that's (of course) where the windows are now leaking from (in fact the screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass around the window opening and I can even pull a couple screws right out of the cabin side completely stripped!) Peter Fell Sidney, BC -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Hatch repair
I think my 1989 30 MKII has got Lewmar Superhatches (though I’m not even sure about that). What is the easiest (not necessarily cheapest) way to repair crazed lenses? I’m not really keen on removing the hatch lids and shipping them off for repair. Is there a complete lid replacement available somewhere? Is there any way to simply drop in a new lens? Lewmar says they no longer make Superhatch parts (if that is indeed what I have). I think I’d probably even spring for new hatches if it that was a quick and easy way to get the job done and move on. I know that much has been written about this (both here and elsewhere) but I’m really not sure how one is supposed to go about this project. Rob H. Sent from Windows Mail From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hammerhead is a great outfit. Much cheaper than hatchsystems. The Atkins and Doyle folks, while very nice, are useless: they want to sell you a new hatch. I replaced the acrylic lens, gasket, one exterior knob and the handle washers on my only hatch last fall and it's leakproof so far. Email me off list if you'd like any help. I have to be super frugal. I'm Scottish. LOL! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Hatch repair
Check they are not bomars ... Our 85 was, replaced Them with Lewmar ocean series that fit the opening better. Pompanette have parts for Bomars. Paul. :) On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Robert H. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think my 1989 30 MKII has got Lewmar Superhatches (though I'm not even sure about that). What is the easiest (not necessarily cheapest) way to repair crazed lenses? I'm not really keen on removing the hatch lids and shipping them off for repair. Is there a complete lid replacement available somewhere? Is there any way to simply drop in a new lens? Lewmar says they no longer make Superhatch parts (if that is indeed what I have). I think I'd probably even spring for new hatches if it that was a quick and easy way to get the job done and move on. I know that much has been written about this (both here and elsewhere) but I'm really not sure how one is supposed to go about this project. Rob H. Sent from Windows Mail From: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?February? ?24?, ?2015 ?3?:?00? ?PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hammerhead is a great outfit. Much cheaper than hatchsystems. The Atkins and Doyle folks, while very nice, are useless: they want to sell you a new hatch. I replaced the acrylic lens, gasket, one exterior knob and the handle washers on my only hatch last fall and it's leakproof so far. Email me off list if you'd like any help. I have to be super frugal. I'm Scottish. LOL! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Hatch repair
Hammerhead is a great outfit. Much cheaper than hatchsystems. The Atkins and Doyle folks, while very nice, are useless: they want to sell you a new hatch. I replaced the acrylic lens, gasket, one exterior knob and the handle washers on my only hatch last fall and it's leakproof so far. Email me off list if you'd like any help. I have to be super frugal. I'm Scottish. LOL! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List compass repair
Good job mate. Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: wwadjo...@aol.com via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date:02/24/2015 20:18 (GMT-05:00) To: Robert H. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List compass repair FWIW, I fixed the large bubble in my Ritchie compass this week. Bellows and everything looked fine, so on a -6 degree morning after leaving it in garage overnight with the fluid, refilled per instructions on the internet, and it has held for a week. Looks like bubble gone. Hopefully for the season. Bill Walker Evening Star CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from my HTC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1
Hi Peter, I had friends that circumnavigated and had their windows replaced in NZ. The NZ folks just laughed at the American yachties every time they saw screws in the plex and mumbled leaky boat. There is NO way to have enough flex/adhesion space around the screws. They use very large overlaps, industrial Dow or Silkaflex, the stuff glass buildings use, and require a week in the yard for it to cure without flexing. They hold the edges own with small screws and fender washers while it sets, then remove the screws and do a 3/4 fillet around the windows. Their boats sail in much rougher waters than we are used too. . . 2 cents, Lee In my case (CC 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of the hatch acrylic into the cast lid - I don't think those are original ... It appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the windows were re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included every 6-inches or so ... that's (of course) where the windows are now leaking from (in fact the screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass around the window opening and I can even pull a couple screws right out of the cabin side completely stripped!) Peter Fell Sidney, BC -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Hatch repair
I have to be frugal I'm Irish. HAHAHA, no but really, I think I can take mine and un-pin them and take the lense out and have a lense made and re-bed it into the frame my self. the lower frame in not the culprit of my leak. So I think if I can just find the right gasket I will win this battle. I would not worry too much about bringing us a subject that has been covered here or on other sites. Most of us have earned our right to forget stuff. But in most cases we all learn something new with a new perspective . Cheers On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Robert H. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think my 1989 30 MKII has got Lewmar Superhatches (though I'm not even sure about that). What is the easiest (not necessarily cheapest) way to repair crazed lenses? I'm not really keen on removing the hatch lids and shipping them off for repair. Is there a complete lid replacement available somewhere? Is there any way to simply drop in a new lens? Lewmar says they no longer make Superhatch parts (if that is indeed what I have). I think I'd probably even spring for new hatches if it that was a quick and easy way to get the job done and move on. I know that much has been written about this (both here and elsewhere) but I'm really not sure how one is supposed to go about this project. Rob H. Sent from Windows Mail *From:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:00 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hammerhead is a great outfit. Much cheaper than hatchsystems. The Atkins and Doyle folks, while very nice, are useless: they want to sell you a new hatch. I replaced the acrylic lens, gasket, one exterior knob and the handle washers on my only hatch last fall and it's leakproof so far. Email me off list if you'd like any help. I have to be super frugal. I'm Scottish. LOL! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/ *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
