Stus-List PNW Rondezveous
We're going. Anyone else is planning on being there? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 Begin forwarded message: From: CC RDV cnc...@gmail.com Date: July 8, 2015 at 7:05:06 PM PDT To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: Two weeks! If you haven't mailed off your registration yet, now is the time! July 22 is deadline for registration, although we can be cajoled by copious amounts of cash. Details and all the forms are at http://members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/ For those who have registered already, and for those who have sent their regrets, thank you. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List One for the hams in the group
I have had a Kenwood TS-440 and an SGC tuner for my backstay antenna aboard Coquina since about 1994. I am not a fan of the hamsticks for anything below 20 meters. The losses in the antenna are huge for the lower frequencies. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I 73 DE N3HGB -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Tauber via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jerome Tauber Subject: Re: Stus-List One for the hams in the group MFJ now makes th Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Bill Bina via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: google: ham stick antennas There are lots of similar ones and even youtube videos showing how to make one yourself. Bill Bina On 7/8/2015 6:43 PM, Andrew Frame via CnC-List wrote: I see the company that made the original hamstick is gone. Is anyone else making them now? Or similar? ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PNW Rondezveous
Did Rick Brass manage to lock this one in? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 9 July 2015 at 07:42, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We're going. Anyone else is planning on being there? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 Begin forwarded message: *From:* CC RDV cnc...@gmail.com *Date:* July 8, 2015 at 7:05:06 PM PDT *To:* undisclosed-recipients: ; *Subject:* *Two weeks!* If you haven't mailed off your registration yet, now is the time! July 22 is deadline for registration, although we can be cajoled by copious amounts of cash. Details and all the forms are at http://members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/ For those who have registered already, and for those who have sent their regrets, thank you. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List PNW Rondezveous
Oops The text from the organizers, including the URL, got snipped...here it is. - If you haven't mailed off your registration yet, now is the time! July 22 is deadline for registration, although we can be cajoled by copious amounts of cash. Details and all the forms are at http://members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/http://members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/ Tom B At 09:00 AM 7/9/2015, you wrote: Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 07:42:34 -0700 From: Tom Buscaglia t...@sv-alera.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List PNW Rondezveous Message-ID: 793dd0ad-e977-4e7a-83ab-4490f4785...@sv-alera.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We're going. Anyone else is planning on being there? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 Begin forwarded message: From: CC RDV cnc...@gmail.com Date: July 8, 2015 at 7:05:06 PM PDT To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: Two weeks! ...snip... ... members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/ Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather
Too hot here to go out. Not enough breeze, and broiling in the cockpit or in the salon. Even tied up under trees, too hot to do maintenance! On 07/09/2015 09:12 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List wrote: Our weather pattern here in the middle states has not bee conducive to boating; it rains or has a high percentage chance of rain almost every day; plus, the Ohio River has been up over its normal banks for over two weeks... very unusual for mid summer. I have not been able to get into my dock because it has been under water Sooo; I was wondering if anyone has any good boating stories or getting much sailing time in? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 596 Richard N. Bush\ 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Emailaddress:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, includingunsubscribing -- go to the bottom of pageat: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather
Where are you Andrew? - Original Message - From: Andrew Frame via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Frame flasp...@dynamagic.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:59 Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather Too hot here to go out. Not enough breeze, and broiling in the cockpit or in the salon. Even tied up under trees, too hot to do maintenance! On 07/09/2015 09:12 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List wrote: Our weather pattern here in the middle states has not bee conducive to boating; it rains or has a high percentage chance of rain almost every day; plus, the Ohio River has been up over its normal banks for over two weeks... very unusual for mid summer. I have not been able to get into my dock because it has been under water Sooo; I was wondering if anyone has any good boating stories or getting much sailing time in? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 596 Richard N. Bush\ 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PNW Rondezveous
After racing to Victoria in the Oregon Offshore race, and sailing in Puget Sound, and the San Juan and Gulf Islands for seven weeks, I couldn't stay another five weeks for the rendezvous. Sorry I'll miss it this year. How about having it in June, next year? Let's try a different venue - Roche Harbor, Port Ludlow, Port Sidney, others? Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather
Had a great sail a couple of days ago. Gorgeous day. Temperature in the mid 70's, moderate breeze, flat water. Right out of the harbor, we raised the main, unfurled the genoa and settled down to a great sail at 6.5 knots. Jimmy Buffett playing softly on the stereo. A pod of dolphins played in the bow pressure wave. A couple of mermaids swam by enticingly close and waved at us. A remote controlled drone delivered us a couple of frozen margaritas and some awesome snacks.Then I woke up. :( Reality: too hot to sail. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Our weather pattern here in the middle states has not bee conducive to boating; it rains or has a high percentage chance of rain almost every day; plus, the Ohio River has been up over its normal banks for over two weeks... very unusual for mid summer. I have not been able to get into my dock because it has been under water Sooo; I was wondering if anyone has any good boating stories or getting much sailing time in? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 596 Richard N. Bush\ 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather - race report
I am in pretty much the same weather pattern as you Richard, and we have had some very high water levels in Kettle Creek, but last weekend did turn out to be a pretty good one on Lake Erie. We had the 50th running of the L.E.I.R. (Lake Erie International Race) from Port Stanley to Ashtabula on Friday, a distance of 49 nautical miles. Conditions were well nigh perfect for the race, with 10 - 15 knots of wind somewhere between a close reach and a close haul all the way across. There were 32 boats in all, with CCs and Tartans being the most represented manufacturers, but I think that CC had a slight edge numerically. I won a hat and a bottle of Mount Gay, for getting a third in my fleet. As usual we had a good time partying with our friends at AYC on Saturday. There was not enough wind to complete the Childs Cup race back to Port Stanley on Sunday. There was a clear sky overhead, but an odd haze on the lake, which we later found out to be smoke from all the forest fires out west. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Richard N. Bush via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard N. Bush Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 09:12 Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather Our weather pattern here in the middle states has not bee conducive to boating; it rains or has a high percentage chance of rain almost every day; plus, the Ohio River has been up over its normal banks for over two weeks... very unusual for mid summer. I have not been able to get into my dock because it has been under water Sooo; I was wondering if anyone has any good boating stories or getting much sailing time in? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 596 Richard N. Bush\ 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
Charlie, Epoxy or vinyl ester resin, your choice. Both will work. If you have epoxy and the proportioning pumps, use it. If you're comfortable with vinylester, use that. I'd use epoxy or resin wetted cloth or roving. Fill to near level. If you use the epoxy, wash it with TSP and rinse with LOTS of water. Then finish it to elevation with 3M Premium Filler or equivalent putty. Sand level and apply your Kiwi Grip. The secret here is the putty. Covers lots of imperfections and sands easily. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
If your going to kiwi grip it anyway, why worry about gelcoat? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jul 9, 2015 2:09 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
Charlie, Is this in a high load area of the deck? Do you have any balsa or other core material on hand? Re: epoxy bonding to gel coat or other coatings, there was a discussion here on the cnc-list in the last week or so on that same topic. In short, with good prep practices other coating will bond to well cured epoxy. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 11:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Deck repair I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.commailto:cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
Just checked my can. There is no mention of what it won't stick too. over wood, GRP, metals, concrete, or any other pre-painted surface. I would say that if you use epoxy just make sure to wash the blush off. Josh On Jul 9, 2015 2:35 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As long as the Kiwi-Grip will stick to the repair (if done with epoxy w fillers), I do not care. Probably need to check with Kiwi-Grip to see if its compatible. Thanks, Charlie cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 2:17 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck repair If your going to kiwi grip it anyway, why worry about gelcoat? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jul 9, 2015 2:09 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
I would think it would be better to get at least a prime coat of paint over the epoxy, not only to help the KiwiGrip stick, but also for UV protection in case the KiwiGrip gets damaged or thin in spots. Uncoated epoxy doesn’t do well in the sun. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 9, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just checked my can. There is no mention of what it won't stick too. over wood, GRP, metals, concrete, or any other pre-painted surface. I would say that if you use epoxy just make sure to wash the blush off. Josh ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather
Howzabout... 11.8 knots through the water (without surfing) at 3:30 am with torrential rains (Gulf Stream weather) whilst everyone else is sleeping soundly down below. Or...listening to a VHF exchange 150 miles from US coast between 2 boats during a very squally day. One losing its rudder (top bearing gave way) and could possibly sink. The other planning on picking them up via a liferaft exchange. Crew transferred safely, boat eventually towed in. Or coming back Thursday and being part of a 35 boat Sunflower raft on Saturday (tried to send with a cool pic but it is stuck in e-mail purgatory) David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 12:59:58 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: flasp...@dynamagic.com Too hot here to go out. Not enough breeze, and broiling in the cockpit or in the salon. Even tied up under trees, too hot to do maintenance! On 07/09/2015 09:12 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List wrote: Our weather pattern here in the middle states has not bee conducive to boating; it rains or has a high percentage chance of rain almost every day; plus, the Ohio River has been up over its normal banks for over two weeks... very unusual for mid summer. I have not been able to get into my dock because it has been under water Sooo; I was wondering if anyone has any good boating stories or getting much sailing time in? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 596 Richard N. Bush\ 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Emailaddress:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, includingunsubscribing -- go to the bottom of pageat: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
Charlie, I will be painting Kiwi Grip over many sq. feet of epoxy/filler repairs completed or underway on Calypso’s deck. Over well cured epoxy I am painting an epoxy based one part high build primer. Over the primer most of the repairs will also be covered with a two part topsides paint. The Kiwi Grip will go over the top coat. Over on Sailing Anarchy, in the fixit forum, there is a contributor that sells Kiwi Grip. I expect he would be able to confirm its compatibility with various primers and top coat paints. My expectation is it will cover/bond well over most primers and paints but would prefer not to be painted directly to un-coated epoxy. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 11:35 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck repair As long as the Kiwi-Grip will stick to the repair (if done with epoxy w fillers), I do not care. Probably need to check with Kiwi-Grip to see if its compatible. Thanks, Charlie cenel...@aol.commailto:cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 2:17 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck repair If your going to kiwi grip it anyway, why worry about gelcoat? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jul 9, 2015 2:09 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Deck repair
I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Deck repair
As long as the Kiwi-Grip will stick to the repair (if done with epoxy w fillers), I do not care. Probably need to check with Kiwi-Grip to see if its compatible. Thanks, Charlie cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 2:17 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck repair If your going to kiwi grip it anyway, why worry about gelcoat? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jul 9, 2015 2:09 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I managed to crush a 2 x 4 portion of my aft deck on both sides recently. I have cleaned out the balsa core and removed the fiberglass/gel coat pieces on top and need to fill it in (its about 1 inch deep) and then, eventually, cover it with the Kiwi Grip that was on it pre-crushing. I have done a lot of fiberglass construction with epoxy and thought I would mix up a batch with some cotton fiber filler and just fill the hole. Alternatively I could wet a bunch of fiberglass tape I have with epoxy and then top this off with some thickened epoxy. Then I read about gel coat repair and it says that this won't adhere to an epoxy repair so I maybe I should fill the holes with thickened gel coat so that eventually some Kiwi Grip will stick to it. I need to fill it this weekend before the balsa core gets wet from rain, etc. although I have put a thin coating of epoxy on the balsa to protect it temporarily. What advice does the list have for such a repair? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
Fees for initial documentation and for changes also went up at the same time that the new renewal fee became effective. IIRC it was part of some budget bill that made user fees dependent on the clerical costs involved in the process, or some such. There is an explanation on the USCG Vessel Documentation website. And the USCG has also asked for comments about a proposed rule change to allow for multi-year documentation. The comment period may be over, but you might still get a chance to endorse the idea, Joe. I know I sent in a comment. I agree, it’s not the $, it’s the PITA paperwork. And as far as dollars go – you could be in North Carolina, where the legislature is proposing a “Coastal Boating Fee” for boats over 24 ft. and all fishing boats that will be $195 PER YEAR (in addition to the current $55 per year registration fee) for my 38. The money is purportedly to be used for dredging the inlets and ICW…. But I noticed a $6 million dollar earmark for buying right of way for the proposed new bridge over Oregon Inlet. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della Barba via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joe Della Barba Subject: Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee The $$ do not bother me – the PITA of doing it YEARLY does! Come on – 5 years or something! Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee Oh, but it’s NOT a tax, it’s a user fee… :^) Seems like a lot to charge to administer something that basically takes about a minute to file every year. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 9, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yep another tax from Uncle Sam... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Water Tank Woes - 30-II
I had a fitting on my tank plastic welded, it's good as new. Since you're taking the tank out anyway it's a good time to clean it .. filled mine with water and bleach and let it stand that way overnight then rinsed and repeated. My tank was really smelly, the PO left it with plumbing anti-freeze inside for a few years :/ After that I let it sit full of baking soda and crumpled newspapers over the winter and the smell is gone. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The original tanks can be weld repaired using LLDPE rods. Any plastic welder can do this. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2015, at 4:57 PM, kelly petew via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello Listers, My starboard water tank has sprung a leak. The tank was made by Kracor, and it appears the leak is coming from the elbow joint. Any 30-II owners have/had this problem? How difficult is removing the tank?? It doesn't appear to be too difficult, but I'd be most interested to hear of others' experiences. Also, I'm not sure silicone will adhere well to the tank. Any thoughts on other adhesives? Thanks, Pete W. Siren Song '91 CC 30-II Deltaville, VA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot
Call Edson and ask about your options... David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 06:15:53 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: captnga...@gmail.com I don't think cutting the rudder tube would be my first choice. I will probably go with attachment to the quadrant, even though there are risks associated with that , also. Thanks for your help. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Well... the PO had to. On Jul 8, 2015 8:47 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Now I understand that you had to cut the rudder post housing in order to use the standard Edson arm. Thanks for the pictures. Fair winds,Gary~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Pictures and video https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yZU1hczd0QlNEOWc/edit Josh On Jul 7, 2015 6:03 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just bought a 37 Plus and want to install a below deck autopilot. Has anyone done this? I am interested in the details of how (and where) to mount the ram. Pictures would be wonderful. Thanks,GaryS/V High Maintenance1990 CC 37 PlusEast Greenwich, RI, USA~~~_/)~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot
I don't think cutting the rudder tube would be my first choice. I will probably go with attachment to the quadrant, even though there are risks associated with that , also. Thanks for your help. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Well... the PO had to. On Jul 8, 2015 8:47 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Now I understand that you had to cut the rudder post housing in order to use the standard Edson arm. Thanks for the pictures. Fair winds, Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Pictures and video https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yZU1hczd0QlNEOWc/edit Josh On Jul 7, 2015 6:03 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just bought a 37 Plus and want to install a below deck autopilot. Has anyone done this? I am interested in the details of how (and where) to mount the ram. Pictures would be wonderful. Thanks, Gary S/V High Maintenance 1990 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: Re: 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot
You can drop the rudder by attaching a rope to the cross bar in the top of the rudder shaft. If I was doing it I would probably use a wire rope and a short section of pipe over the rope to shield it from being cut. My stern sits high enough that the rudder post is never in the water while sitting idle. My rudder does not appear to have been re-machined. It does have a keyway the entire length of the shaft. Same situation though with dropping the rudder. It can be done in the water. They are nearly neutrally buoyant so with a man in the water lower the rudder with the previously described rope. Once lowered below the hull. A second rope can be attached and a crane or davit can be used to lift the rudder from the water. Josh On Jul 8, 2015 4:40 PM, Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect if you try for Josh's set up you'll likely have to drop the rudder to take to a machine shop to cut a key-way into it as there isn't likely to be a slot for a key where you will need it. Ken H. On 7 July 2015 at 18:17, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The means of access is through the aft berth. If you perform the install with the boat in the water you'll have to use something like a pipe cutter since the rudder shaft will be in the way. I have heard of being able to attach a strong rope to the rudder bail and lowering the rudder out of, or nearly out of, the boat which would facilitate making the required cuts also. I would consider doing all of the glass work and framing now and when the boat is hauled finish the project by removing the rudder, making the required cuts and then reinstalling the rudder. Josh On Jul 7, 2015 5:04 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Is the rudder shaft exposed under the deck (I haven't crawled down there yet), where you can clamp the bronze arm? Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sea Hawk came with a simrad package already installed. There is a shelf which appears to be 3/4 plywood encapsulated and glassed to the hull under the stbd propane locker. The hydraulic piston is mounted to the shelf and drives a bronze arm attached to the rudder shaft. The feedback positionner is mounted to an additional shelf on the port side of the rudder sleeve and the linkage attaches to the same bronze arm. Right now all I have are pictures of the bronze arm. The arm is a standard piece which can be bought on defender. https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yQWIyanRiTzBKRlk/edit Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hash 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD I just bought a 37 Plus and want to install a below deck autopilot. Has anyone done this? I am interested in the details of how (and where) to mount the ram. Pictures would be wonderful. Thanks, Gary S/V High Maintenance 1990 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather
Richard In the East we had an unusually snowy winter and major amounts of ice beneath it. In Halifax for the first time in 20 years the Northwest Arm froze completely for half its length and there were ice skaters enjoying the activity. By late April there was still ice blocking the Arm completely. On April 25 we were sitting in our club and saw two boats from Armdale Yacht Club sailing out to the Harbour. This was the first weekend that the ice had cleared allowing anyone out of Armdale by water Apparently when they returned later in the day the ice had moved back and blocked their path. Some careful maneuvering and a bit of ice breaking was involved. Normally this body of water does not freeze over. Also the huge amounts of snow and cold winter and Spring made for a very late start to our boating season. We did not even launch Persistence until April 30 and that was only by force of will and digging paths thru snow banks to commission the boat Mike Persistence Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:13 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard N. Bush Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather Our weather pattern here in the middle states has not bee conducive to boating; it rains or has a high percentage chance of rain almost every day; plus, the Ohio River has been up over its normal banks for over two weeks... very unusual for mid summer. I have not been able to get into my dock because it has been under water Sooo; I was wondering if anyone has any good boating stories or getting much sailing time in? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 596 Richard N. Bush\ 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
Yep sucks On Jul 9, 2015 3:34 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't recall anybody mentioning it but renewal of your USCG documentation is no longer free. It's $26 now. Just got my notice. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
Yep another tax from Uncle Sam, I paid mine 2 weeks ago and received the new document in today's mail. At least the turn around is fast. Jack Fitzgerald CC 39 TM HONEY Savannah, GA USA On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don't recall anybody mentioning it but renewal of your USCG documentation is no longer free. It's $26 now. Just got my notice. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
At least they provide for e-renewal no Dennis C. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The $$ do not bother me – the PITA of doing it YEARLY does! Come on – 5 years or something! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather
Dave, that sounds more like it! How did your boat come through the race and return trip? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC CNC cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David davidrisc...@msn.com Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 2:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat time and weather Howzabout... 11.8 knots through the water (without surfing) at 3:30 am with torrential rains (Gulf Stream weather) whilst everyone else is sleeping soundly down below. Or...listening to a VHF exchange 150 miles from US coast between 2 boats during a very squally day. One losing its rudder (top bearing gave way) and could possibly sink. The other planning on picking them up via a liferaft exchange. Crew transferred safely, boat eventually towed in. Or coming back Thursday and being part of a 35 boat Sunflower raft on Saturday (tried to send with a cool pic but it is stuck in e-mail purgatory) David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
I tried renewing by scanning and emailing last year; they misplaced the renewal. At least when I called them and they figured out what was going on, they dated my renewal as of the date of the phone call, effectively giving me six months free. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: At least they provide for e-renewal no Dennis C. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The $$ do not bother me – the PITA of doing it YEARLY does! Come on – 5 years or something! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
The $$ do not bother me – the PITA of doing it YEARLY does! Come on – 5 years or something! Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee Oh, but it’s NOT a tax, it’s a user fee… :^) Seems like a lot to charge to administer something that basically takes about a minute to file every year. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 9, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yep another tax from Uncle Sam... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
They were forced to do that after several years of budget cut after budget cut. They got to the point where no matter how smart they worked, they just no longer had enough people and resources to get the job done. Bill Bina On 7/9/2015 3:34 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Don't recall anybody mentioning it but renewal of your USCG documentation is no longer free. It's $26 now. Just got my notice. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
Oh, but it’s NOT a tax, it’s a user fee… :^) Seems like a lot to charge to administer something that basically takes about a minute to file every year. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 9, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yep another tax from Uncle Sam... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Vessel Documentation Fee
Don't recall anybody mentioning it but renewal of your USCG documentation is no longer free. It's $26 now. Just got my notice. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PNW Rondezveous
We had thought about going, although it’s a pretty long haul from Anacortes for a weekend. If I can get some time away from work, we’ll be there. Mike S/V Limerick 1989 CC 30-2 Anacortes WA From: Tom Buscaglia [mailto:t...@sv-alera.com] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 7:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List PNW Rondezveous We're going. Anyone else is planning on being there? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
