Re: Stus-List Upholsterers in the Toronto area?

[Tim Sippel via CnC-List]

I found it was worth the drive to Kitchener

Cushions are going to year 10 this season ...

https://www.facebook.com/FrikosUpholsteryLtd/

As an aside I took photos and measurements for all the cushions and e-mailed 
the document to marine, automotive and furniture upholsterers , not 
surprisingly Marine was expensive , Frikos was a good price , good material 
selection , and they do a lot of Restaurant work ... so are familiar with wear 
and tear

Tim
C 33 mkII



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Anybody know of a skilled but reasonable shop in the GTA ?  Thanks.

Dave

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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

My settee alone is 8 cushions - 3 bottom, 3 back and 2 ends.  The dinette
is probably 10 with the table top cushions.  I don't have the patience to
do 18 cushions, and the Admiral isn't interested.
Looks like I need to shop around.  I have some friends in the car
business.  I can see if they have people who do their work.

Part of me says get it done over the winter, part of me says wait until
after the Bermuda race.

Thanks for all the help!

Joel

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:27 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Concur with Jim Watt's experience of 10 year's ago. 13 pieces, all new
> foam including additional memory foam in V and quarter berth.   Sunbrella
> with stripes (a little harder to work with). Lots of zippers and underside
> mesh. This was 8-9 years ago. Foam was a big cost. All totalled, ~3K USD.
> Made very locally.
> As for DIY, life's too short to get good at this.
> --Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds expensive, we were just over $3K 10 years ago, but we replaced
>> everything. New 4" foam everywhere with and additional 2" of memory foam in
>> the V-berth, top end furniture grade Ultrasuede covers. I think you could
>> do better, but that's just my Scrooge coming out.
>>
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>> On 17 December 2015 at 12:07, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped
>>> dinette and straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​
>>>  Estimate was at least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a
>>> reasonable price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?
>>>
>>>
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>>> 35/3
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Re: Stus-List Upholsterers in the Toronto area?

[Marek Fluder via CnC-List]

You can try Foamland in Hamilton.
http:// www.foamland.ca/ 
They do quality work including boat cushions.

Marek
C320, Hamilton
Anybody know of a skilled but reasonable shop in the GTA ?  Thanks.

Dave

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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Joel,

I'm curious as to why you spec'd Sunbrella? It's 
forte is colour-fast after years of sun exposure 
and it's not the most comfortable fabric to sit on.


I suggest talking about proper upholstery fabric 
when dealing with your supplier.


My saloon is done in leather but that might not be the best for your style.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 12:07 PM 17/12/2015, you wrote:

All,

Just got a quote to have the cushions in the 
main salon - U shaped dinette and straight berth 
with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​  
Estimate was at least $2200 depending on 
fabric/extras.  Is that a reasonable 
price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?



JoelÂ
35/3
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Russ,

It's what they offered as their standard, and I thought it would be easy to
compare prices from different places that way. I'd love leather, but not
the price!

Joel

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> Hi Joel,
>
> I'm curious as to why you spec'd Sunbrella? It's forte is colour-fast
> after years of sun exposure and it's not the most comfortable fabric to sit
> on.
>
> I suggest talking about proper upholstery fabric when dealing with your
> supplier.
>
> My saloon is done in leather but that might not be the best for your style.
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>
> At 12:07 PM 17/12/2015, you wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped dinette
> and straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​ Â
> Estimate was at least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a
> reasonable price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?
>
>
> JoelÂ
> 35/3
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> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Dennis,
My cushions came off of Howard's boat when he replaced all of his!

My boat pillows are from Home Depot. Didn't know they sold fabric.  Heck,
probably cheaper to buy patio cushions just for the fabric than buying
Sunbrella from a marine outlet!

Joel​

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sunbrella is pretty pricey.  Look at fabrics for patio furniture.  Most
> are a fraction of the cost of Sunbrella.  Heck, even Home Depot sells
> outdoor fabrics.
>
> Guess I'm lucky, Touche's cushions are in decent shape.  However the
> pattern is definitely 70's retro.  Who knows, in another 40 years it might
> be back in style.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> I'm curious as to why you spec'd Sunbrella? It's forte is colour-fast
>> after years of sun exposure and it's not the most comfortable fabric to sit
>> on.
>>
>> I suggest talking about proper upholstery fabric when dealing with your
>> supplier.
>>
>> My saloon is done in leather but that might not be the best for your
>> style.
>>
>> Cheers, Russ
>> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>>
>> At 12:07 PM 17/12/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped
>> dinette and straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​ Â
>> Estimate was at least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a
>> reasonable price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?
>>
>>
>> JoelÂ
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Upholsterers in the Toronto area?

[Derek McLeod via CnC-List]

Hi,

I've been in the process of getting entirely new upholstery done for my 29-2 as 
it was missing most cushions when I got it. Tina Morgan Designs is doing the 
work. She does mostly mid-century furniture and seems very skilled. She's only 
done a couple of boats before mine FWIW. I supplied her with templates for 
everything based on Sailrite's instructions online. After the foam was cut, I 
fit it to any little weird bumps and brought it back to have the fabric sewn 
up. I'm still waiting for the final product as she has been busy and I have 
little need for them until the spring. 

I'm getting all new soy-based foam (supposedly mildew resistant) and went with 
Sunbrella for all the interior cushions, with Sailrite's mesh fabric for the 
bottom. Also got the flow through foam (forget the exact name), for two cockpit 
cushions, also done with Sunbrella. And some throw pillows.

I'm not certain what the final total will end up being, based on her labour, 
but have paid a deposit of $2000. Around $1000 of that went towards the foam, I 
think about $800 in fabric. Tina has been very good to work with thus far and I 
expect the result will be very good. That said I am hoping things will be under 
$4000 all said and done...

Thought this info could be of interest to the American lister's as well since 
we deal with noticeably higher prices north of the border.

Derek McLeod 
1983 29-2 Aileron
Toronto

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Anybody know of a skilled but reasonable shop in the GTA ?  Thanks.
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Many of you are fortunate to have all separate removable cushions, bottoms
and backs.  Touche's dinette and settee backs are single rolled and pleated
wraparound units stapled to the cabinetry.  I like the look.  It would be
very pricey to replace because the workman would almost certainly have to
come to the boat.

Many owners have removed this look and gone with separate cushion backs.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Sunbrella is pretty pricey.  Look at fabrics for patio furniture.  Most are
a fraction of the cost of Sunbrella.  Heck, even Home Depot sells outdoor
fabrics.

Guess I'm lucky, Touche's cushions are in decent shape.  However the
pattern is definitely 70's retro.  Who knows, in another 40 years it might
be back in style.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Joel,
>
> I'm curious as to why you spec'd Sunbrella? It's forte is colour-fast
> after years of sun exposure and it's not the most comfortable fabric to sit
> on.
>
> I suggest talking about proper upholstery fabric when dealing with your
> supplier.
>
> My saloon is done in leather but that might not be the best for your style.
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>
> At 12:07 PM 17/12/2015, you wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped dinette
> and straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​ Â
> Estimate was at least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a
> reasonable price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?
>
>
> JoelÂ
> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List little A hatches on a LF38

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I just heard back from the acrylics place — they want $65 each for the lenses 
for the small galley/head hatches on the LF38.  These would come precut, but 
not predrilled for the hinge and latch castings; you’d need to do those 
yourself, due to differences in the hatches.

These same hatches are in use on a couple of other models of C, as well (33?).

Anyone interested, contact me off-list and we’ll sort through the details.  
Hopefully we can get ten to order, as that’s what the acrylics place based 
their costs on.  And shipping would be additional.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 6, 2015, at 10:51 AM, dre...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> 
> I have to pass on the hatch lenses.  I have bigger problems with my hatches 
> then just poor acrylic.   I just removed the lenses, and found that ALL of 
> the hinges were galled and most of the bolt threads are stripped.  Even 
> worst, one hinge, under a glob of silicone, is broken in two.  It looks like 
> the last owner tried to pot the lenses permanently in place with silicone.  I 
> have been putting this repair off for some time (the sunbrella hatch covers 
> made it easy to ignore).  And I was hoping it would be a somewhat easy fix, 
> but as now see it is more of a mess that I realized.  I am contacting 
> Hammerhead and A to look  for replacement parts, but may need to start 
> thinking of hatch replacements if parts are not available. 
> 
>  Have a look at: 
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0oqyr9V2SNU/VmRVOgtsv4I/ISU/yWwtZ3XFuz8/s1600/IMG_4905.JPG
>  
> 
> 
> Thank you again for your kind offering to help.
> 
> -
> Paul Eugenio
> 1981 C 38 Landfall 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Paul Eugenio >
>> Date: December 1, 2015 at 7:05:18 PM EST
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List little A hatches on a LF38
>> 
>> Fred,
>> 
>> Wow, sound great.   
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Paul E.
>> 1981 C 38 Landfall 
>> S/V Johanna Rose
>> Carrabelle, FL
>> 
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ 
>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 5:47 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:35:59 -0600
>>> From: Frederick G Street >
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List little A hatches on a LF38
>>> Message-ID: >> >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Paul ? I had a bunch of sets made up for LF38 listers several years ago; I 
>>> may still have a few left.  Let me check and get back to you.
>>> 
>>> ? Fred
>>> 
>>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>> 
> 

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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Nate Personal via CnC-List]

Fleabay for good upholstery fabrics. None marine upholstery shop after that. 
$100 per cushion not incl $75 total fabric cost covering all 14 new cushions. 
New foam and batting included. Happy 6 years later

Nate
1980 30-1

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> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:26, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Sunbrella is pretty pricey.  Look at fabrics for patio furniture.  Most are a 
> fraction of the cost of Sunbrella.  Heck, even Home Depot sells outdoor 
> fabrics.
> 
> Guess I'm lucky, Touche's cushions are in decent shape.  However the pattern 
> is definitely 70's retro.  Who knows, in another 40 years it might be back in 
> style.
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Joel,
>> 
>> I'm curious as to why you spec'd Sunbrella? It's forte is colour-fast after 
>> years of sun exposure and it's not the most comfortable fabric to sit on.
>> 
>> I suggest talking about proper upholstery fabric when dealing with your 
>> supplier.
>> 
>> My saloon is done in leather but that might not be the best for your style.
>> 
>> Cheers, Russ
>> Sweet 35 mk-1
>> 
>> At 12:07 PM 17/12/2015, you wrote:
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped dinette 
>>> and straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​  
>>> Estimate was at least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a 
>>> reasonable price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joel 
>>> 35/3
>>> Annapolis
>>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Not sure why anyone would have to come to the boat. All the rolled stuff looks 
to be stapled along the edges. Just take it to the shop and restaple the new 
stuff yourself.
Joe DB
Coquina
C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet

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Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

Many of you are fortunate to have all separate removable cushions, bottoms and 
backs.  Touche's dinette and settee backs are single rolled and pleated 
wraparound units stapled to the cabinetry.  I like the look.  It would be very 
pricey to replace because the workman would almost certainly have to come to 
the boat.
Many owners have removed this look and gone with separate cushion backs.
Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - now if cushions could talk

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Funny you should say that.  One of the "joys" of owning a "storied" boat
is, of course, the stories.

The Admiral was at a fundraiser a few years back when the conversation
steered around to interests and then sailing.  An older couple asked the
Admiral what boat she sailed on.  When she replied Touche', they rolled
their eyes and said they used to cruise to Pensacola on Touche' with the
previous owners.  They alluded to a few interesting times "in the old days"
but wouldn't elaborate.  Maybe I'll ask the cushions the next time I'm on
the boat.  :)

Dennis C.

Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:

Oh, if those cushions could talk...
>
> I suspect they'd be replaced in a big hurry!
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Oh, if those cushions could talk...

I suspect they'd be replaced in a big hurry!

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

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> Oh, you guys are indeed ancient. My much more modern 1980 version has the
> awesome beige, orange, and brown tone plaid stuff. It is also better at
> showing stains, of which there are many. But, as 90 percent of its activity
> is local racing, the cushions stay in the attic over the ‘carriage house’
> (that is a garage to you modern folks most of the time. Someday….
>
>
>
> Gary, in cold St. Michaels Maryland
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2015 5:16 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch
>
>
>
> Yup, the red, white and blue plaid is what Touche' has.  I found some
> extra on the boat and saved it.  Came in handy a couple years ago when I
> had an upholsterer patch some in on the quarterberth cushion.
>
> Fabric isn't bad but the stitching gives out.  Have gotten a couple
> cushions re-stitched.  Cash speaks loud to small upholstery shops for the
> occasional small job.  :)
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet.
>
>
>
> Is this a challenge?  Some of the cushions on Calypso are original from
> 1970.  They are covered in the red, white, blue plaid design common to C
> of the era.  I suspect they survived this long because when the boat was
> raced locally the cushions were in storage.  I have no desire to look
> closely for stains, especially with a black light.
>
>
>
> To make the V berth (which on Calypso consists of hinged plywood covers
> over the sail storage lockers) more comfortable when cruising I had thicker
> cushions covered with sunbrella made up.  I kept the thin, well used V
> berth cushions that came with the boat for racing deliveries.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C 43
>
> Seattle
>
>
> [image: Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Della
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2015 12:08 PM
> *To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch
>
>
>
> Not sure why anyone would have to come to the boat. All the rolled stuff
> looks to be stapled along the edges. Just take it to the shop and restaple
> the new stuff yourself.
>
> Joe DB
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
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> *To:* CnClist
> *Cc:* Dennis C.
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch
>
>
>
> Many of you are fortunate to have all separate removable cushions, bottoms
> and backs.  Touche's dinette and settee backs are single rolled and pleated
> wraparound units stapled to the cabinetry.  I like the look.  It would be
> very pricey to replace because the workman would almost certainly have to
> come to the boat.
>
> Many owners have removed this look and gone with separate cushion backs.
>
> Dennis C.
>
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Stus-List C 33 MKI

[Paul Wyand via CnC-List]

Hello all, boat is coming along, nicely cleaned out on the interior, shore
power getting set up. Time to set up the propane bulkhead heater. I was
wondering if anyone with a 33 MKI has put a propane locker under the helm
seat. I have taken visual measurements and it looks like there should be
room, but just looking for ideas. I will pull out a tape next time I am
aboard.
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I’ll get the number of the West Annapolis shop next time I am over there.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


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My settee alone is 8 cushions - 3 bottom, 3 back and 2 ends.  The dinette is 
probably 10 with the table top cushions.  I don't have the patience to do 18 
cushions, and the Admiral isn't interested.
Looks like I need to shop around.  I have some friends in the car business.  I 
can see if they have people who do their work.

Part of me says get it done over the winter, part of me says wait until after 
the Bermuda race.

Thanks for all the help!

Joel

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:27 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Concur with Jim Watt's experience of 10 year's ago. 13 pieces, all new foam 
including additional memory foam in V and quarter berth.   Sunbrella with 
stripes (a little harder to work with). Lots of zippers and underside mesh. 
This was 8-9 years ago. Foam was a big cost. All totalled, ~3K USD. Made very 
locally.
As for DIY, life's too short to get good at this.
--Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Sounds expensive, we were just over $3K 10 years ago, but we replaced 
everything. New 4" foam everywhere with and additional 2" of memory foam in the 
V-berth, top end furniture grade Ultrasuede covers. I think you could do 
better, but that's just my Scrooge coming out.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 17 December 2015 at 12:07, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> wrote:
All,

Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped dinette and 
straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​  Estimate was at 
least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a reasonable price?  Is there 
any good way to DIY if you don't sew?


Joel
35/3
Annapolis
301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Oh, you guys are indeed ancient. My much more modern 1980 version has the 
awesome beige, orange, and brown tone plaid stuff. It is also better at showing 
stains, of which there are many. But, as 90 percent of its activity is local 
racing, the cushions stay in the attic over the ‘carriage house’ (that is a 
garage to you modern folks most of the time. Someday….

 

Gary, in cold St. Michaels Maryland 

 

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:16 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

 

Yup, the red, white and blue plaid is what Touche' has.  I found some extra on 
the boat and saved it.  Came in handy a couple years ago when I had an 
upholsterer patch some in on the quarterberth cushion.  

Fabric isn't bad but the stitching gives out.  Have gotten a couple cushions 
re-stitched.  Cash speaks loud to small upholstery shops for the occasional 
small job.  :)

Dennis C.

 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
 > wrote:

> C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet.

 

Is this a challenge?  Some of the cushions on Calypso are original from 1970.  
They are covered in the red, white, blue plaid design common to C of the 
era.  I suspect they survived this long because when the boat was raced locally 
the cushions were in storage.  I have no desire to look closely for stains, 
especially with a black light.

 

To make the V berth (which on Calypso consists of hinged plywood covers over 
the sail storage lockers) more comfortable when cruising I had thicker cushions 
covered with sunbrella made up.  I kept the thin, well used V berth cushions 
that came with the boat for racing deliveries.

 

Martin DeYoung

Calypso

1971 C 43

Seattle




 

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 ] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via 
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:08 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com  '
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

 

Not sure why anyone would have to come to the boat. All the rolled stuff looks 
to be stapled along the edges. Just take it to the shop and restaple the new 
stuff yourself.

Joe DB
Coquina

C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet

 

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 ] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:58 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

 

Many of you are fortunate to have all separate removable cushions, bottoms and 
backs.  Touche's dinette and settee backs are single rolled and pleated 
wraparound units stapled to the cabinetry.  I like the look.  It would be very 
pricey to replace because the workman would almost certainly have to come to 
the boat. 

Many owners have removed this look and gone with separate cushion backs.

Dennis C. 


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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

> C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet.

Is this a challenge?  Some of the cushions on Calypso are original from 1970.  
They are covered in the red, white, blue plaid design common to C of the 
era.  I suspect they survived this long because when the boat was raced locally 
the cushions were in storage.  I have no desire to look closely for stains, 
especially with a black light.

To make the V berth (which on Calypso consists of hinged plywood covers over 
the sail storage lockers) more comfortable when cruising I had thicker cushions 
covered with sunbrella made up.  I kept the thin, well used V berth cushions 
that came with the boat for racing deliveries.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle

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Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:08 PM
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Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

Not sure why anyone would have to come to the boat. All the rolled stuff looks 
to be stapled along the edges. Just take it to the shop and restaple the new 
stuff yourself.
Joe DB
Coquina
C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:58 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

Many of you are fortunate to have all separate removable cushions, bottoms and 
backs.  Touche's dinette and settee backs are single rolled and pleated 
wraparound units stapled to the cabinetry.  I like the look.  It would be very 
pricey to replace because the workman would almost certainly have to come to 
the boat.
Many owners have removed this look and gone with separate cushion backs.
Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Yup, the red, white and blue plaid is what Touche' has.  I found some extra
on the boat and saved it.  Came in handy a couple years ago when I had an
upholsterer patch some in on the quarterberth cushion.

Fabric isn't bad but the stitching gives out.  Have gotten a couple
cushions re-stitched.  Cash speaks loud to small upholstery shops for the
occasional small job.  :)

Dennis C.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> > C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet.
>
>
>
> Is this a challenge?  Some of the cushions on Calypso are original from
> 1970.  They are covered in the red, white, blue plaid design common to C
> of the era.  I suspect they survived this long because when the boat was
> raced locally the cushions were in storage.  I have no desire to look
> closely for stains, especially with a black light.
>
>
>
> To make the V berth (which on Calypso consists of hinged plywood covers
> over the sail storage lockers) more comfortable when cruising I had thicker
> cushions covered with sunbrella made up.  I kept the thin, well used V
> berth cushions that came with the boat for racing deliveries.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C 43
>
> Seattle
>
>
> [image: Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Della
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2015 12:08 PM
> *To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch
>
>
>
> Not sure why anyone would have to come to the boat. All the rolled stuff
> looks to be stapled along the edges. Just take it to the shop and restaple
> the new stuff yourself.
>
> Joe DB
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I with likely the worst cushions in the fleet
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2015 2:58 PM
> *To:* CnClist
> *Cc:* Dennis C.
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch
>
>
>
> Many of you are fortunate to have all separate removable cushions, bottoms
> and backs.  Touche's dinette and settee backs are single rolled and pleated
> wraparound units stapled to the cabinetry.  I like the look.  It would be
> very pricey to replace because the workman would almost certainly have to
> come to the boat.
>
> Many owners have removed this look and gone with separate cushion backs.
>
> Dennis C.
>
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Our V berth cushions were upside down in the broker's advertising and in
real life, which is weird when you finally notice the taper is going the
wrong way. The tops of the cushions were literally a bunch of longitudinal
strings joined by occasional pieces of the (is it the weft or the woof, I
can never remember) crossways. I could only imagine what hard use those
cushions got when the boat was in charter.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 18 December 2015 at 15:27, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Oh, if those cushions could talk...
>
> I suspect they'd be replaced in a big hurry!
>
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
>
>
>
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Stus-List Venetian parade

[William Walker via CnC-List]

I would love to hear ideas for lighting the boat for Venetian parades.  LED?  
Can I use Christmas lights that are on sale?  No generator on board. 
Bill Walker
CnC 36


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Re: Stus-List Venetian parade

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Just had our Christmas parade.  Couple boats had lots of lights and
generator on deck.

Couple years ago I decorated Touche' with a bunch of light strings.  We
probably had 15-20 strings of lights.  We have about half incandescent and
half LED strings.  I'd added up the wattages on the boxes for the LED
lights and estimated wattage's for the incandescents.  Came to around 700
watts.  Touche' has a 1000 watt inverter.  When we fired everything up, the
inverter was showing around 830 watts.  At 120 VAC that's about 7 amps.

In the parade we were moving at idle speed.  I was constantly monitoring
the 12 VDC system on my instruments.  RPM's weren't enough to maintain
voltage on the batteries.  Every now and then I shifted to neutral and
revved the engine to boost amperage.  We did fine over the hour long parade
using that technique.

Do the research and add up the wattage's.  Try to use exclusively LED
lights, 12 VDC if you can find them.  Convert to amps and remember that
your alternator doesn't generate much amperage at low RPM's.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, William Walker via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would love to hear ideas for lighting the boat for Venetian parades.
> LED?  Can I use Christmas lights that are on sale?  No generator on board.
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
>
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Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

[Al Serrato via CnC-List]

I'm in the San Francisco Bay area and I'm having all the cushions re-covered in 
Sunbrella material at a local shop for $2,600. I got a list of upholsterers 
from a shop that sells foam and after calling around found a place that was 
about $2000 less than all the other estimates. The only drawback is I'm waiting 
about three months for the fist half of the cushions to be done.

Al
1981 34 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Nate Personal via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fleabay for good upholstery fabrics. None marine upholstery shop after that. 
> $100 per cushion not incl $75 total fabric cost covering all 14 new cushions. 
> New foam and batting included. Happy 6 years later
> 
> Nate
> 1980 30-1
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:26, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sunbrella is pretty pricey.  Look at fabrics for patio furniture.  Most are 
>> a fraction of the cost of Sunbrella.  Heck, even Home Depot sells outdoor 
>> fabrics.
>> 
>> Guess I'm lucky, Touche's cushions are in decent shape.  However the pattern 
>> is definitely 70's retro.  Who knows, in another 40 years it might be back 
>> in style.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi Joel,
>>> 
>>> I'm curious as to why you spec'd Sunbrella? It's forte is colour-fast after 
>>> years of sun exposure and it's not the most comfortable fabric to sit on.
>>> 
>>> I suggest talking about proper upholstery fabric when dealing with your 
>>> supplier.
>>> 
>>> My saloon is done in leather but that might not be the best for your style.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Russ
>>> Sweet 35 mk-1
>>> 
>>> At 12:07 PM 17/12/2015, you wrote:
 All,
 
 Just got a quote to have the cushions in the main salon - U shaped dinette 
 and straight berth with back cushions- recovered in Sunbrella.​  
 Estimate was at least $2200 depending on fabric/extras.  Is that a 
 reasonable price?  Is there any good way to DIY if you don't sew?
 
 
 Joel 
 35/3
 Annapolis
 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Venetian parade

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Cigarette lighter inverter should be able to power a good number of LED
strings.  A clamp on inverter would be an even better guarantee of
sufficient power.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Dec 18, 2015 10:08 PM, "William Walker via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would love to hear ideas for lighting the boat for Venetian parades.
> LED?  Can I use Christmas lights that are on sale?  No generator on board.
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
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