Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread svpegasus38 






I operated a friends 10 ft AB in not calm but not rough water. With just me 
in it and sitting all the way aft it felt like it wanted to flip. Plus it was 
quite a step down in the bow. FWIT. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Jason Ward via CnC-List Date: Thu, Feb 4, 
2016 06:20To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: jaw...@mymts.net;Subject:Stus-List ab 
inflatables

Hello all, I am looking for peoples experience with AB inflatables.  I am 
looking at purchasing a new tender for my C&C Landfall and I came across this 
brand in my search.  I currently own a 1978 Zodiac that has been a great tender 
for the past 35 years.  However, everything ages and it is time to move on to a 
new boat.  I am looking for something that is going to be durable, stable, and 
tows and handle well.  My current Zodiac is a soft bottom with a wood floor, 
but I want to change to a v-shaped aluminum bottom.  I am also wanting to stay 
with Hypalon material as I am planning to use this on a future Atlantic 
circumnavigation. The AB Lamina UL10 brand seems to be a good replacement, 
however, I don't know anyone who owns one.  Any reviews that people can 
contribute or alternative makes would be appreciated.  Regards,Jason WardS/V 
Starship

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Stus-List Sailrite Machine

2016-02-04 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List 
  ‎I bought a Sailrite LSZ1 sewing m/c in 2005 so I could make a dodger for my C&C 26. It developed into a sail repair & canvas business that supports my boat mtce and my charters in the tropics!I support what Graham says! My machine has been very well used over the last 10 years and has not let me down once. This machine is bullet proof! I'm self taught - it's really quite easy. samC&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: Graham Collins via CnC-ListSent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:20 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Graham Collins‎Subject: Re: Stus-List ab inflatables
  

  
  
Buying a sailrite machine was one of my better spends.  No regrets.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
On 2016-02-04 12:08 PM, Stevan Plavsa
  via CnC-List wrote:


  Bill, I know how you feel. I watch the videos on
the sailrite website and think "man, I MUST have that". And then
the feeling goes away when I think of all the projects I have to
do. Making my own cushions is way down the list of priorities.
However, I do need a new sail cover... and will need new dodger
and bimini too... 


and so it goes.


Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


  
  
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Bill
  Coleman via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  

  
Is
it valuable enough to take on the boat with you? 
I
watched the fellow from Sailrite demo that at
Annapolis, and I
was so spellbound watching him make upholstery
piping and such I was getting my
credit card out, but then some woman started talking
at him, and she seemed more
interested, so I backed off and the feeling went
away.   I am sure it is not as
easy as he made it look.
 

  Bill
  Coleman
  C&C
  39 Erie, PA


   
   
  .
  And sew yourself a dinghy cover.  Tropical sun
  will
   disintegrate anything.  For circumnavigation
  Sailrite sewing machine
  is worth its weight in gold.  
   
  Petar
  Horvatic
  Sundowner
  76
  C&C 38MkII
  On
  the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington RI
   
   
  

   

  



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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List 

Buying a sailrite machine was one of my better spends.  No regrets.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2016-02-04 12:08 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
Bill, I know how you feel. I watch the videos on the sailrite website 
and think "man, I MUST have that". And then the feeling goes away when 
I think of all the projects I have to do. Making my own cushions is 
way down the list of priorities. However, I do need a new sail 
cover... and will need new dodger and bimini too...


and so it goes.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Is it valuable enough to take on the boat with you?

I watched the fellow from Sailrite demo that at Annapolis, and I
was so spellbound watching him make upholstery piping and such I
was getting my credit card out, but then some woman started
talking at him, and she seemed more interested, so I backed off
and the feeling went away.   I am sure it is not as easy as he
made it look.

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

. And sew yourself a dinghy cover.  Tropical sun will
 disintegrate anything.  For circumnavigation Sailrite sewing
machine is worth its weight in gold.

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

On the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington RI


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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List 

 Rick, would it be possible to see a photo of your davit arrangement?   Thanks

 


Richard
1985 C&C 37 Ohio River, Mile 596;


Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2016 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List ab inflatables


We  have been happy with our 9ft AB-hypalon tender thus far.  i felt the 
aluminum hull would be the least likely to be damaged in beach landing and 
wouldn’t show the scratching from rocks and debris while tied to the beach. 
Nearly any shop or amateur welder can fix aluminum, some prettier than others.  
i would say the floor stays very cool in the water.  Ours is naked aluminum, 
and will stay that way.  We power it with a 5 hp merc 2-stroke.  Planes with 
one aboard, but not 2.  it is a long shaft though so might do better with a 
short shaft engine. 
We carry it on davits.  


Cheers
Rick
Paikea 37+
Poulsbo, WA



 
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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
We  have been happy with our 9ft AB-hypalon tender thus far.  i felt the 
aluminum hull would be the least likely to be damaged in beach landing and 
wouldn’t show the scratching from rocks and debris while tied to the beach. 
Nearly any shop or amateur welder can fix aluminum, some prettier than others.  
i would say the floor stays very cool in the water.  Ours is naked aluminum, 
and will stay that way.  We power it with a 5 hp merc 2-stroke.  Planes with 
one aboard, but not 2.  it is a long shaft though so might do better with a 
short shaft engine. 
We carry it on davits.  

Cheers
Rick
Paikea 37+
Poulsbo, WA

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> There was some discussion I recall recently on cruiser's forum about a recent 
> (and maybe temporary) deterioration in AB quality while their plant was 
> moving between Venezuela and Columbia.
> 
> There were also discussions about the aluminum floor being very hot on bare 
> feet and paint peeling off the aluminum floor.
> 
> I recently considered the AB but decided on an Apex Lite with fiberglass 
> floor. (They are made in Costa Rica and sold by Fawcetts in Annapolis.)
> 
> The other consideration for me was that I can repair fiberglass--I can't weld 
> aluminum.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
> 
> On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Jason Ward via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>>  
>> I am looking for peoples experience with AB inflatables.  I am looking at 
>> purchasing a new tender for my C&C Landfall and I came across this brand in 
>> my search.  I currently own a 1978 Zodiac that has been a great tender for 
>> the past 35 years.  However, everything ages and it is time to move on to a 
>> new boat.  I am looking for something that is going to be durable, stable, 
>> and tows and handle well.  My current Zodiac is a soft bottom with a wood 
>> floor, but I want to change to a v-shaped aluminum bottom.  I am also 
>> wanting to stay with Hypalon material as I am planning to use this on a 
>> future Atlantic circumnavigation. The AB Lamina UL10 brand seems to be a 
>> good replacement, however, I don't know anyone who owns one.  Any reviews 
>> that people can contribute or alternative makes would be appreciated. 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Jason Ward
>> S/V Starship
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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
There was some discussion I recall recently on cruiser's forum about a recent 
(and maybe temporary) deterioration in AB quality while their plant was moving 
between Venezuela and Columbia.

There were also discussions about the aluminum floor being very hot on bare 
feet and paint peeling off the aluminum floor.

I recently considered the AB but decided on an Apex Lite with fiberglass floor. 
(They are made in Costa Rica and sold by Fawcetts in Annapolis.)

The other consideration for me was that I can repair fiberglass--I can't weld 
aluminum.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Jason Ward via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
>  
> I am looking for peoples experience with AB inflatables.  I am looking at 
> purchasing a new tender for my C&C Landfall and I came across this brand in 
> my search.  I currently own a 1978 Zodiac that has been a great tender for 
> the past 35 years.  However, everything ages and it is time to move on to a 
> new boat.  I am looking for something that is going to be durable, stable, 
> and tows and handle well.  My current Zodiac is a soft bottom with a wood 
> floor, but I want to change to a v-shaped aluminum bottom.  I am also wanting 
> to stay with Hypalon material as I am planning to use this on a future 
> Atlantic circumnavigation. The AB Lamina UL10 brand seems to be a good 
> replacement, however, I don't know anyone who owns one.  Any reviews that 
> people can contribute or alternative makes would be appreciated. 
>  
> Regards,
> Jason Ward
> S/V Starship
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

2016-02-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
There are (were?) a few guys in Toronto, who did that a few years back. And if 
I remember correctly, they did it on a 30-something foot boat. So it is doable.

Maybe someone from that area has the contacts.

Marek
In Ottawa, ON

PS. And completely off topic, I am just coming back form a great ski trip (Big 
White, BC). Day 1 we got 45 cm (~18 in) of fresh powder! It is like 20 kt wind 
on the beam and no waves.
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From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

WOW!
C&Cs in general would not be my first pick for icebreaking duty if the 
Northwest Passage is what you meant, but we had a guy from Annapolis do it in a 
Vega 27. You would be living in luxury compared to that boat.
Joe
Coquina

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

For the next two years we will be at the Royal St Lawrence in Montreal, then 
its off to Marigot St Martin for a year or so, then les Azores , after that the 
Netherlands, then we shall see.  but my dream is the northern passage (in a 
convoy)
but time will tell, how far we get once in St martin..

  On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 20:23 +, Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:
If you purchase, where will you be keeping her if you go ahead with the deal. 

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Subject: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

Gert Tiel - that's the Dutch name I could not remember!   He worked there.   In 
the plant?   
Nice guy who generously gave me great advice in a lengthy conversation over the 
phone as I was evaluating a 35i .(Mystic)   Very intimate knowledge of the 
construction of the boat.    Ultimately I took his advice and bought "the 
newest boat within your budget".  '85 33ii.  

Dave



Message: 1
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:05:38 -0800
From: Tom Buscaglia 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2
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I used Gert Tiel...not much detail but I knew Alera was my boat when
I saw it and just needed something for the valuation re
insurance.  Besides, who better to survey a C&C?

Tom B


Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
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From: Dave Syer 
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Rino,


Agreed with Steve, after reviewing MANY surveys over and crawling around many 
boats, over 3 decades, I find most are very superficial indeed.    To be fair, 
most surveyors cannot realistically know the specific issues to look for in 
each model.   
That said, we are in C&C land and several of the local surveyors know the boats 
and a few actually worked for C&C over the years.   (one - a dutch name escapes 
me, but a good guy and he's down your way.)
 

>>>snip

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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
Bill, I know how you feel. I watch the videos on the sailrite website and
think "man, I MUST have that". And then the feeling goes away when I think
of all the projects I have to do. Making my own cushions is way down the
list of priorities. However, I do need a new sail cover... and will need
new dodger and bimini too...

and so it goes.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is it valuable enough to take on the boat with you?
>
> I watched the fellow from Sailrite demo that at Annapolis, and I was so
> spellbound watching him make upholstery piping and such I was getting my
> credit card out, but then some woman started talking at him, and she seemed
> more interested, so I backed off and the feeling went away.   I am sure it
> is not as easy as he made it look.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
>
>
> . And sew yourself a dinghy cover.  Tropical sun will  disintegrate
> anything.  For circumnavigation Sailrite sewing machine is worth its weight
> in gold.
>
>
>
> Petar Horvatic
>
> Sundowner
>
> 76 C&C 38MkII
>
> On the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington RI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List now sailrite RE: ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List 
Bill, 

I can’t tell you how many times iv’e stitched a rip while under way.  For 
cruising in the tropics, where sun always wins, you are going to get a rip. 
Even the best of uv threads will give way at some point.  A ripped sail is 
actually worse than losing the engine.  For the seasonal weekend warriors with 
seatow, its pointless, but if you’re offshore or spending time in the tropics 
and third world countries, its priceless.   I am more of a weekend warrior now, 
but my cruising, self-sufficient habits are still with me.  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman 
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Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

 

Is it valuable enough to take on the boat with you? 

I watched the fellow from Sailrite demo that at Annapolis, and I was so 
spellbound watching him make upholstery piping and such I was getting my credit 
card out, but then some woman started talking at him, and she seemed more 
interested, so I backed off and the feeling went away.   I am sure it is not as 
easy as he made it look.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

 

. And sew yourself a dinghy cover.  Tropical sun will  disintegrate anything.  
For circumnavigation Sailrite sewing machine is worth its weight in gold.  

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

On the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington RI

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Is it valuable enough to take on the boat with you? 

I watched the fellow from Sailrite demo that at Annapolis, and I was so 
spellbound watching him make upholstery piping and such I was getting my credit 
card out, but then some woman started talking at him, and she seemed more 
interested, so I backed off and the feeling went away.   I am sure it is not as 
easy as he made it look.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

 

. And sew yourself a dinghy cover.  Tropical sun will  disintegrate anything.  
For circumnavigation Sailrite sewing machine is worth its weight in gold.  

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

On the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington RI

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List 
We’ve been using 2004 AB 10AL for about 4 years now, it has a fiberglass 
bottom.   Prior to that I had Caribe C10 (AB and caribe are hypalon).  And 
before that a mercury RIB 10’(PVC).

We live on the boat 5-6 months out of the year so the dinghy gets a lot of use. 
 Pretty much like a car but lower mileage.  I saw few aluminum ABs and while 
they are light, I would be afraid to go fast in it.  it gets out of control way 
too easy.  If you are plaining, even a smallest wake gets dangerous.  My 
comments are based on going from Caribe(heavier) to AB(lighter) with fiberglass 
bottom.  AB with aluminum is even lighter and I would imagine even more erratic 
while moving at plaining speeds. 

Stay away from PVC. And sew yourself a dinghy cover.  Tropical sun will  
disintegrate anything.  For circumnavigation Sailrite sewing machine is worth 
its weight in gold.  

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

On the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington RI

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ward 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jaw...@mymts.net
Subject: Stus-List ab inflatables

 


Hello all,

 

I am looking for peoples experience with AB inflatables.  I am looking at 
purchasing a new tender for my C&C Landfall and I came across this brand in my 
search.  I currently own a 1978 Zodiac that has been a great tender for the 
past 35 years.  However, everything ages and it is time to move on to a new 
boat.  I am looking for something that is going to be durable, stable, and tows 
and handle well.  My current Zodiac is a soft bottom with a wood floor, but I 
want to change to a v-shaped aluminum bottom.  I am also wanting to stay with 
Hypalon material as I am planning to use this on a future Atlantic 
circumnavigation. The AB Lamina UL10 brand seems to be a good replacement, 
however, I don't know anyone who owns one.  Any reviews that people can 
contribute or alternative makes would be appreciated. 

 

Regards,

Jason Ward

S/V Starship

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Stus-List ab inflatables

2016-02-04 Thread Jason Ward via CnC-List 

Hello all, 
  
I am looking for peoples experience with AB inflatables.  I am looking at 
purchasing a new tender for my C&C Landfall and I came across this brand in my 
search.  I currently own a 1978 Zodiac that has been a great tender for the 
past 35 years.  However, everything ages and it is time to move on to a new 
boat.  I am looking for something that is going to be durable, stable, and tows 
and handle well.  My current Zodiac is a soft bottom with a wood floor, but I 
want to change to a v-shaped aluminum bottom.  I am also wanting to stay with 
Hypalon material as I am planning to use this on a future Atlantic 
circumnavigation. The AB Lamina UL10 brand seems to be a good replacement, 
however, I don't know anyone who owns one.  Any reviews that people can 
contribute or alternative makes would be appreciated.  
  
Regards, 
Jason Ward 
S/V Starship 
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Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-04 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
Sam,

I have a 2-blade Martec Elliptic 17x10 RH folding prop for a 1" shaft that
you are welcome to try out for the cost of shipping (from New England).  It
came off my 35-3 with Yanmar 3GMF and 2.2:1 transmission.

Fair warning, I replaced it with a flex-o-fold because I wasn't happy with
performance in reverse and occasional unbalanced opening (one blade more
than another) at low revs...

Tim
(ex Mojito; C&C 35-3 Newport, RI)

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a spare prop I took off when I replaced it with a Max Prop, 17 X 10
> RH. We can talk.
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LKRe8QHE_x8/VrLWbGMeEWI/EKU/Zl7I9s_8bVw/s912-Ic42/IMG_7534.JPG
>
>
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
> On 3 February 2016 at 16:35, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sam,
>>
>>
>>
>> IIRC, I’m swinging a 10x16 Martec elliptical prop.  Good forward
>> performance.  Reverse requires a lot of rpms to get a response, but it
>> works for me.
>>
>> I’m just a high speed – low drag racer anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>
>> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>>
>> *Hampton VA*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam
>> Wheeler via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 17:08
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Sam Wheeler 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently bought a 35-3, and one of the projects it came with was the
>> prop had galvanic corrosion and needed to be replaced.  It's a fixed two
>> blade.
>>
>>
>>
>> The previous owners adjusted the pitch on it, apparently from 10 to 8.
>> They seemed to think that improved performance but the boatyard is telling
>> me that the specs for the boat and engine call for 10.  Does anyone have
>> any thoughts on this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: *Carston Grasvik* 
>> Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:19 AM
>> Subject: FW: Propeller for C&C 35
>> To: Sam Wheeler 
>>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>>
>>
>> It appears your old prop has an odd pitch to it. The prop I estimated for
>> you has a 10 degree pitch which is specified for your boat and engine.
>> Please see note below from our prop people and advise what you’d like to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Carston
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ernel Elkin [mailto:prop...@pacbell.net]
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2016 3:47 PM
>> *To:* Carston Grasvik
>> *Subject:* Propeller for C&C 35
>>
>>
>>
>> HI CARSTON - DAVE MEASURED THE PITCH ON THE 2 BLADE AND IT IS 8"!
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROP I FOUND FOR YOU HAD ALREADY BEEN REPITCHED FROM 12
>> TO 10 AND CAN NOT BE REPITCHED ANYMORE.  IT WOULD PROBABLY CRACK.
>>
>>
>>
>> I LOOKED AROUND AND FOUND ANOTHER 18"X 10", BUT THE PILOT BORE IS 1-1/8",
>> SO THE CUSTOMER WOULD HAVE TO USE A BUSHING WITH IT AND HAVE IT REPITCHED
>> TO 8".  BUSHING COST IS $74 AND REPITCHING IS $150.
>>
>>
>>
>> KIND OF A WEIRD SIZE.  THE LOWEST PITCH AVAILABLE IS 10".  PLEASE DISCUSS
>> WITH YOUR CUSTOMER.  THANKS.
>>
>>
>>
>> ERNEL
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

2016-02-04 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
I would not be too worried about buying without seeing the boat however it is 
not really necessary.  This list gives each of us a lot of contacts all over 
North America in particular.  Even one in Mexico!

When we purchased Persistence we made an offer that was subject to survey.  The 
offer was made one hour after I found out the boat was for sale and after a 
referral by a friend and one conversation on the phone with the owner.  This 
made the survey very important.  At the same time fellow lister Harry Hallgring 
visited the boat for an up close look on my behalf.  Harry confirmed that there 
was nothing that would be nasty but a survey would not point out (odor, etc) 
and also confirmed an overall impression of the boat.  Knowing all the work 
Harry has done on his current boat and on his J27 before that it really gave me 
a great confidence in the boat and in the deal

Use the list.  It is an amazing resource.

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:25 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

The 3GM engine would indicate the boat’s original engine was replaced and the 
monel fuel tank is a very good thing.
I would not buy a car, airplane, or boat sight-unseen myself, but too late now. 
I hope this works out – the 35s (all versions) are nice boats!
Joe Della Barba
C&C 35 MK I
Coquina
www.dellabarba.com

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rino Granito 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rino Granito
Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

Good day..

It has a 3GM Indirect cooling from what I can tell and a Monel fuel tank... 
again I need to validate this..  Now for the kicker, and please no flaming :(  
I made an offer based on a discussion and photos , I did not see in person the 
boat yet..  We already had been on a few 35Mk2 before and loved this boat..  So 
when we saw a nice 3gm , new running and standing rigging, we jumped.. and 
pulled the tricker..

Thanks,
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

2016-02-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
WOW!
C&Cs in general would not be my first pick for icebreaking duty if the 
Northwest Passage is what you meant, but we had a guy from Annapolis do it in a 
Vega 27. You would be living in luxury compared to that boat.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rino Granito 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 7:27 PM
To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List
Cc: Rino Granito
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

For the next two years we will be at the Royal St Lawrence in Montreal, then 
its off to Marigot St Martin for a year or so, then les Azores , after that the 
Netherlands, then we shall see.  but my dream is the northern passage (in a 
convoy)
but time will tell, how far we get once in St martin..

  On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 20:23 +, Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:
If you purchase, where will you be keeping her if you go ahead with the deal.

Glen Eddie

Tel:  416-777-5357

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Syer 
via CnC-List
Sent: February-03-16 02:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Syer
Subject: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

Gert Tiel - that's the Dutch name I could not remember!   He worked there.   In 
the plant?
Nice guy who generously gave me great advice in a lengthy conversation over the 
phone as I was evaluating a 35i .(Mystic)   Very intimate knowledge of the 
construction of the boat.Ultimately I took his advice and bought "the 
newest boat within your budget".  '85 33ii.

Dave



Message: 1
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:05:38 -0800
From: Tom Buscaglia mailto:t...@sv-alera.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2
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I used Gert Tiel...not much detail but I knew Alera was my boat when
I saw it and just needed something for the valuation re
insurance.  Besides, who better to survey a C&C?

Tom B


Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
-- Forwarded message --
From: Dave Syer mailto:syerd...@gmail.com>>
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Rino,


Agreed with Steve, after reviewing MANY surveys over and crawling around many 
boats, over 3 decades, I find most are very superficial indeed.To be fair, 
most surveyors cannot realistically know the specific issues to look for in 
each model.
That said, we are in C&C land and several of the local surveyors know the boats 
and a few actually worked for C&C over the years.   (one - a dutch name escapes 
me, but a good guy and he's down your way.)


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Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

2016-02-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
The 3GM engine would indicate the boat’s original engine was replaced and the 
monel fuel tank is a very good thing.
I would not buy a car, airplane, or boat sight-unseen myself, but too late now. 
I hope this works out – the 35s (all versions) are nice boats!
Joe Della Barba
C&C 35 MK I
Coquina
www.dellabarba.com

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rino Granito 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rino Granito
Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

Good day..

It has a 3GM Indirect cooling from what I can tell and a Monel fuel tank... 
again I need to validate this..  Now for the kicker, and please no flaming :(  
I made an offer based on a discussion and photos , I did not see in person the 
boat yet..  We already had been on a few 35Mk2 before and loved this boat..  So 
when we saw a nice 3gm , new running and standing rigging, we jumped.. and 
pulled the tricker..

Thanks,



On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 18:31 +, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
What engine does the boat have?
An original A4, if RWC, can be considered fully depreciated by now and most of 
them are RWC. The optional diesel as a creation made by Westebeake from MG 
Midget engine blocks. From all I have read, it made a nice little engine but 
parts are almost impossible to get now.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Syer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Syer
Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2

Rino,


Agreed with Steve, after reviewing MANY surveys over and crawling around many 
boats, over 3 decades, I find most are very superficial indeed.To be fair, 
most surveyors cannot realistically know the specific issues to look for in 
each model.
That said, we are in C&C land and several of the local surveyors know the boats 
and a few actually worked for C&C over the years.   (one - a dutch name escapes 
me, but a good guy and he's down your way.)

FWIW When I inquired about some work with Bristol marine in Port Credit, Nick 
Bailey made the following recommendations of surveyors who they felt knew C&C 
boats.  No affiliation or relationship etc...

have an experienced surveyor familiar with these issues look at the boat. i.e. 
Bill Provis, 416-801-5527; Peter McGuire 
416-809-2186; or Wallace Gouk 416-526-3845

That said, read up, ask questions here and do your own survey as well.lift 
the cabin sole, look at all of the floor timbers (whatever they're called in a 
plastic boat)

One thing I did not do and should have, was insisted on the opportunity to put 
the boat through its paces in the water, under power.

Good Luck!

Dave  - 1985 33ii





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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:26:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C&C 35 mk2
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Peter McGuire, Fastnet Yacht Services.
He did mine. I wasn't unhappy with the work but since then I've questioned
the value of surveys in general. He didn't tell me anything I didn't know.
He did a good job but stayed within his scope. I can send you my survey if
you want a sample of the work. I don't believe I'm breaking any agreement
by sharing it.

I'm far from a pro, just a blunderer who's read a lot of Don Casey and
Nigel Calder. I own the same moisture meter that those guys use. The notion
that you have to be a rocket surgeon to use a moisture meter is a little
beyond me. There's a lot an amateur can learn about a boat with one of
those before spending $600 on a survey. Sure, you can get false positives,
like backing plates registering as moisture .. but you won't get false
negatives. If there's moisture, it'll find it.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto

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