Re: Stus-List Keel bolt pattern '78 36 footer

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

FYI, What is drawn on paper and what is actually fabricated can sometimes be 
very different. 
I have the drawing for my boat model and the keel maker placed the bolts 
differently. It was probably a change approved by the designer but never 
updated on the drawings. Just sayin. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:47:12 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Keel bolt pattern '78 36 footer 

A few months back somebody posted a drawing of the keel bolts on the C 
36. I saved a copy but can no longer find it. If anybody has a copy 
could they please send it to me at my e-mail address. 

Bill 
Caprice 1 

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Re: Stus-List New bearing arrived. How to make it tighter.

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Brian,

I'd suggest cutting off the excess length, since it's not supported and 
could bend or distort.


The fact that the bearing is loose in the strut housing is not ideal, 
it'd be better if it was at least a light drive fit, the set screws 
should not be depended on to hold the bearing in place. Without going 
crazy and putting in sleeves, etc, probably epoxy is your quickest 
approach.  Some kind of filler/adhesive, JB Weld or similar, might be best.




Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 3/8/2016 4:28 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List wrote:


As the heading says my new bearing has arrived. It slid right in with 
minimal resistance. It is also 1/2 inch too long. Is any of this an 
issue.

Should I cut it down to fit?
Do I need to add some sort of glue or epoxy? Or will the two set 
screws be enough? Here is a link to my blog where there is a pic.


https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/

https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/

Brian Fry
la Neige
37/40xl 1993
Havre de Grace



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Re: Stus-List Wet Coast C's for Sale

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

Add the C 48 “Morning Star” at Swiftsure Yachts, Seattle to the Wet Coast 
list, at a slightly higher price point.

This 48 was restored by the same guy that restored the 43 “Evening Star”.  The 
owner has been around C’s so long he was one of the race crew on Calypso when 
it was named “Arieto” and raced out of Boston back in the 70’s.

After seeing the quality of work done on Evening Star I am confident the 48’s 
quality of finish and equipment is top notch.  IIRC the boat spent some time 
cruising up and down the East Coast.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 3:31 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Wet Coast C's for Sale

Neither are mine but in case someone is looking ...

1990 C 34/36R for $45,000 (CAN): 
http://www.salts.ca/site/buy-a-boat/sailboats/candc-34-36r.html (oops ... I’m 
drooling!)

And, a $1000 (CAN) Mega 30: 
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/CC-Mega-30-with-Yellow-stripe_27002980

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C 27 MkIII
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Re: Stus-List New bearing arrived. How to make it tighter.

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Brian, 
I think I would trim the excess length (because I've never seen one stick out 
beyond the strut). And you need room for the zincs and the prop. 

I think I would apply three coats of wax to the bronze surface to prep it for 
an epoxy filler shim coat. The wax prevents the epoxy from bonding to the 
cutless bearing. I would dry fit the thing using the shaft to align the 
bearing. Assemble the shaft to the engine coupling and check alignment and see 
if the bearing would work better in any direction. Pull the prop end of the 
shaft in the direction required to get a better alignment and tie it off there. 
You may need to use a syringe to inject the epoxy into the resulting void from 
the forward end. Then let that cure overnight and tighten the set screws the 
next day. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:28:06 PM 
Subject: Stus-List New bearing arrived. How to make it tighter. 



As the heading says my new bearing has arrived. It slid right in with minimal 
resistance. It is also 1/2 inch too long. Is any of this an issue. 
Should I cut it down to fit? 
Do I need to add some sort of glue or epoxy? Or will the two set screws be 
enough? Here is a link to my blog where there is a pic. 

https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/ 


https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/ 


Brian Fry 
la Neige 
37/40xl 1993 
Havre de Grace 
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Stus-List Wet Coast C's for Sale

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

Neither are mine but in case someone is looking ...

1990 C 34/36R for $45,000 (CAN): 
http://www.salts.ca/site/buy-a-boat/sailboats/candc-34-36r.html (oops ... I’m 
drooling!)

And, a $1000 (CAN) Mega 30: 
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/CC-Mega-30-with-Yellow-stripe_27002980

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
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Re: Stus-List New bearing arrived. How to make it tighter.

[Bill Connon via CnC-List]

Brian Fry via CnC-List wrote:


As the heading says my new bearing has arrived. It slid right in with 
minimal resistance. It is also 1/2 inch too long. Is any of this an 
issue.

Should I cut it down to fit?
Do I need to add some sort of glue or epoxy? Or will the two set 
screws be enough? Here is a link to my blog where there is a pic.


https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/

https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/

Brian Fry
la Neige
37/40xl 1993
Havre de Grace




Brian,

I've seen machinists in the mill working on shafts that were slightly 
undersized. Their trick was to run a dull, rounded tool down the length 
of the shaft as the lathe was slowly turning. They didn't remove any 
steel. They just created a small groove and a greater diameter on each 
side of the groove. I'm sure that if you took your bearing to a machine 
shop that they would be aware of the trick. When I changed my bearing I 
cut it to the proper length on my lathe.


Bill
Caprice 1

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Stus-List New bearing arrived. How to make it tighter.

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

As the heading says my new bearing has arrived. It slid right in with
minimal resistance. It is also 1/2 inch too long. Is any of this an issue.
Should I cut it down to fit?
Do I need to add some sort of glue or epoxy? Or will the two set screws be
enough? Here is a link to my blog where there is a pic.

https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/

https://m.facebook.com/The-Next-14-Years-1011224262273851/

Brian Fry
la Neige
37/40xl 1993
Havre de Grace
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Re: Stus-List Keel and Centerboard ? 40' Crusader

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I worked on one of these a few years ago and the shroud chain plates looked
scary.  Inspect them well.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:15 AM, steve olive via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A local community sailing organization has been given an old Crusader. She
> has been a project boat for 10-12 years and a couple of owners so she's in
> pieces right now. I'm working on putting her back together. My immediate
> issues are the keel and board. I want to check and tighten the bolts.
> Someone has covered each keel bolt with putty and then several layers of
> fiberglass cloth. They did the same or the centerboard pin. This has kept
> the stainless dry and when I chipped away the putty the bolts look new. The
> boat is currently on the hard. When we hauled her there was a gap around
> the hull keel joint. When she was blocked up and the load put on the keel
> the gap did close some. I intend to clean out the gap and use G Flex to
> fill with a layer of tape on the outside to fair. Question 1. Does anyone
> know how many keel bolts there are in this boat? I have found 9 but there
> looks like a couple more mounds at the end of the keel but I don't know if
> they are bolts. Secondly, the centerboard is out of the boat because the
> hole that the pivot pin goes through rusted away and the board left the
> boat. The board I have appears to be 1/4" steel plate wrapped with glass.
> The pivot 'ear' is completely gone. Question 2. Does anyone know where I
> can find a drawing with dimensions of the board? I have a local machine
> ready to cut a new one but need to have those dimensions. Thanks!
>
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Stus-List Keel bolt pattern '78 36 footer

[Bill Connon via CnC-List]

A few months back somebody posted a drawing of the keel bolts on the C 
36. I saved a copy but can no longer find it. If anybody has a copy 
could they please send it to me at my e-mail address.


Bill
Caprice 1

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Re: Stus-List Keel and Centerboard ? 40' Crusader

[Robert Mazza via CnC-List]

Steve,

The Crusader drawings would be in the C Archives at the Marine Museum of
the Great Lakes at Kingston, ON. See (http://www.marmuseum.ca/). Contact
the curator, Sandrena Raymond. The drawings would show the keel bolt sizes
and locations.

Rob

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:15 AM, steve olive via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A local community sailing organization has been given an old Crusader. She
> has been a project boat for 10-12 years and a couple of owners so she's in
> pieces right now. I'm working on putting her back together. My immediate
> issues are the keel and board. I want to check and tighten the bolts.
> Someone has covered each keel bolt with putty and then several layers of
> fiberglass cloth. They did the same or the centerboard pin. This has kept
> the stainless dry and when I chipped away the putty the bolts look new. The
> boat is currently on the hard. When we hauled her there was a gap around
> the hull keel joint. When she was blocked up and the load put on the keel
> the gap did close some. I intend to clean out the gap and use G Flex to
> fill with a layer of tape on the outside to fair. Question 1. Does anyone
> know how many keel bolts there are in this boat? I have found 9 but there
> looks like a couple more mounds at the end of the keel but I don't know if
> they are bolts. Secondly, the centerboard is out of the boat because the
> hole that the pivot pin goes through rusted away and the board left the
> boat. The board I have appears to be 1/4" steel plate wrapped with glass.
> The pivot 'ear' is completely gone. Question 2. Does anyone know where I
> can find a drawing with dimensions of the board? I have a local machine
> ready to cut a new one but need to have those dimensions. Thanks!
>
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Re: Stus-List Keel and Centerboard ? 40' Crusader

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Are we referring to the Crusader 40 from the late 1960's?  Is so, here is
text from an old email from the list. The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes
at Kingston likely have the Crusader 40 drawings as it was a George
Cuthbertson design:



*From:* Ben Holthof [mailto:bholt...@marmuseum.ca]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:40 PM
*To:* Rob Ball
*Subject:* Re: Marine Museum C collection



Hi Rob
I do have a C 35 Mk III lines drawing, with a drawing number of 81-15-1

Your friend can contact me directly if he wishes. I can also send him a
complete list of the C 35 drawings that we have in case he wants more of
them.

I can have a print or a scan made. The Museum does charge a small amount
for copies of plans. $10.00 per plan plus a curatorial service fee of
$25.00 per hour of my time. The first half hour is free but taking a plan
out of the archives, bringing it to the copy place and returning and then
putting everything away usually takes about an hour and a half. Larger sets
of drawings take more time. These charges basically cover the Museums costs.
We also charge shipping to mail the prints (a drawing in a tube is around
$15.00) and tax (13%) here in Ontario.

If someone has a scan made there is no shipping because I can usually
e-mail the drawing to them. It can be cheaper for them to get a print made
at a printing place local to them than it is for me to ship a drawing in a
shipping tube.

We then ask the client to call the Museum with a VISA or Mastercard, and we
will process the order and send the plan.

Have your friend contact me or let me know how you want to proceed and we
can get the copies made and sent out.


Ben Holthof

Registrar/Curator

Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston

613-542-2261




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wrote:

> A local community sailing organization has been given an old Crusader. She
> has been a project boat for 10-12 years and a couple of owners so she's in
> pieces right now. I'm working on putting her back together. My immediate
> issues are the keel and board. I want to check and tighten the bolts.
> Someone has covered each keel bolt with putty and then several layers of
> fiberglass cloth. They did the same or the centerboard pin. This has kept
> the stainless dry and when I chipped away the putty the bolts look new. The
> boat is currently on the hard. When we hauled her there was a gap around
> the hull keel joint. When she was blocked up and the load put on the keel
> the gap did close some. I intend to clean out the gap and use G Flex to
> fill with a layer of tape on the outside to fair. Question 1. Does anyone
> know how many keel bolts there are in this boat? I have found 9 but there
> looks like a couple more mounds at the end of the keel but I don't know if
> they are bolts. Secondly, the centerboard is out of the boat because the
> hole that the pivot pin goes through rusted away and the board left the
> boat. The board I have appears to be 1/4" steel plate wrapped with glass.
> The pivot 'ear' is completely gone. Question 2. Does anyone know where I
> can find a drawing with dimensions of the board? I have a local machine
> ready to cut a new one but need to have those dimensions. Thanks!
>
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Stus-List Keel and Centerboard ? 40' Crusader

[steve olive via CnC-List]

 A local community sailing organization has been given an old Crusader. She has 
been a project boat for 10-12 years and a couple of owners so she's in pieces 
right now. I'm working on putting her back together. My immediate issues are 
the keel and board. I want to check and tighten the bolts. Someone has covered 
each keel bolt with putty and then several layers of fiberglass cloth. They did 
the same or the centerboard pin. This has kept the stainless dry and when I 
chipped away the putty the bolts look new. The boat is currently on the hard. 
When we hauled her there was a gap around the hull keel joint. When she was 
blocked up and the load put on the keel the gap did close some. I intend to 
clean out the gap and use G Flex to fill with a layer of tape on the outside to 
fair. Question 1. Does anyone know how many keel bolts there are in this boat? 
I have found 9 but there looks like a couple more mounds at the end of the keel 
but I don't know if they are bolts. Secondly, the centerboard is out of the 
boat because the hole that the pivot pin goes through rusted away and the board 
left the boat. The board I have appears to be 1/4" steel plate wrapped with 
glass. The pivot 'ear' is completely gone. Question 2. Does anyone know where I 
can find a drawing with dimensions of the board? I have a local machine ready 
to cut a new one but need to have those dimensions. Thanks!___

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